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lil gremlin
This is posted in the correct section; it is intended as a debate on the Historical evidence for and against.
Each of these men either claimed, or had myths surrounding them, to have had divine parentage.
I have my own opinions in each case...wanna know yours.
Also are there any other fellas from history that you can think of that should be included here?

One stipulation that id like to request, is that if ur going to refer to written works, please give good accurate refs.
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jaylemurph
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This is posted in the correct section; it is intended as a debate on the Historical evidence for and against.
Each of these men either claimed, or had myths surrounding them, to have had divine parentage.
I have my own opinions in each case...wanna know yours.
Also are there any other fellas from history that you can think of that should be included here?

One stipulation that id like to request, is that if ur going to refer to written works, please give good accurate refs.
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Well... it is reasonably well documented that Alexander III of Macedon was the son of Phillip II of Macedon and one of his later (third? fourth?) wife Olympias. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great)
Same for Gaius Julius Ceasar: he was the son of G. Julius the Elder and Aurelia Cotta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Ceasar).

The Bible notwithstanding, the records aren't so good for Jesus; nobody's even very sure when he was born or when he died. (Sorry.. can't cite what I don't know.)

All these people did remarkable things, but I don't think any of them did anything so wonderful that needed supernatural help.

--Jaylemurph
TheHerb420
Hercules was the son of Zeus and Hera, but was physically conceived by Odysseus and his wife.
jaylemurph
Hercules was the son of Zeus and Alcmene.

Penelope was the wife of Ulysses.

--Jaylemurph
lil gremlin
doesnt this also reflect identifying a hero of greek mythology with Hercules/Melkart from Tyre?
Wasnt Heracles son of Zeus and Alcmene?
a demi-god who through his labours won his place in Olympus?

I also know that the greeks refer to an 'historical' Heracles son of Barsine...will have to look for info on him, coz he is only mentioned in passing in texts i have read.

Dionysus son of Zeus and Semele seems also to fit the bill, but traditions on him/them vary in some accounts he is the son of Zeus and Persephone.....
interestingly he seems to have been the first demi-god to have turned water into wine....a ritual commemorating the 'miracle' often part of his mysteries....or so im given to believe....reminds me of someone.... wink2.gif
M.A.D
to find out when jesus was born look to any planits that crossed pathes back then maby around 4 bc, he would have been born under the sign of the bull.

he to had hornes.
TheHerb420
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Hercules was the son of Zeus and Alcmene.

Penelope was the wife of Ulysses.

--Jaylemurph

Thanks for the correction. I had a felling that Hera wasn't it, but it was the one I was most sure about. Can't always be right.
Thozzman
Every man has the potential to become sons of God.
That's what Jesus was trying to teach. That's the purpose of trying to emulate him.
He was trying to teach mankind to be like him, a son of God, in which the spirit of God lives inside.
He was trying to teach that through faith and belief anything is possible.
Then they nailed him to a cross.

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Mr.D
" Pen in hand with out knowlege is a weapon that self inflicks wounds. where knowlege with pen is powerful" ANON.

SOURCE = "ENCARTA"

"Hercules (mythology), in Greek mythology, hero noted for his strength and courage and for his many legendary exploits. Hercules is the Roman name for the Greek hero Heracles. He was the son of the god Zeus and Alcmene, wife of the Theban general Amphitryon. "

Greek Mythology is facinating reading.
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