Here is an absolutely fascinating site... I post a few excerpts of it..




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The sun of the Empire of the Sun was the cosmic symbol for the primary creative energies radiating from the central sun in the center of the universe, the beneficial energies of time and space from higher dimensions, the source of all life, matter. and energy. The sun further represented in microcosm the sun within every human being, the invisible eternal flame that united man with his cosmic creator. The Lemurian (Mu) people believed that the sun within man was located in the "third eye', the invisible eye within us that is tuned into our innermost visions.

According to Churchward, much of the Mu civilization lived in homes with transparent roofs. They were free from stress and disease and lived to be hundreds of years old, developing their E.S.P. abilities through nearly 40,000 years of societal practice and experimentation. With that many centuries of evolution, the Mu gained their reputation for telepathy, astral travel and teleportation . . . making land vehicles unnecessary.

Most of those who have written about Lemuria claim they were primarily socially a vegetarian, agricultural, outdoor, organic culture that worked in harmony with nature and the land, having little use for scientific technology. Lemurians had concentrated on meditation and Extra sensory perception (ESP) development.

Lemuria had relatively little interest in Atlantean technology and preferred to experiment with psychic energies to move objects (proven by Uri Gellar during his research at Stanford University in the 1970's), although they did use ultra-high frequency sonic, solar energy, crystal energy, and teleportation to build and move objects as well.

One account describes 'pre-marital' tests in Lemuria.(written by a man named Cerve, a Rosucrucian historian) The elders required a man and woman to give all of their possessions to the priest so that they had absolutely none- no clothing, food, shelter, or any tools. The man and woman were then sent into the woods for one month (28 days) naked. During that time, they had to build their shelter, make their own clothing, gather their own food, make their own tools, and provide for each other without getting into any argument or projecting any negativity toward each other. If they passed that test, they were married and their possessions were returned. If they failed the teal they could not be married!

MIGRATIONS IN TIME

Lemurians migrated from that Mid-Pacific continent to the continent of Atlantis where they reportedly evolved that society toward scientific perfection. Contemporary literature marvels at inventions that seem like science fiction. Lamps that burned with brilliance for thousands of years without maintenance, spoken of by so many ancient writers, were one legacy of Atlantis. Some of these 'Maxin Lights' were still brilliant when the Spanish explorers found them blazing deep in the Amazon Jungle over 10,000 years later! (documented by Robber Charroux's books) Ancient historians found the Maxin Lights still burning in Egypt (which was the Atlantean colony of Luxor) over nine centuries after the Flood, in temples of doors that they reported had opened and closed automatically- and were guarded by robots!

CRYSTAL CITIES OF ATLANTIS

Robert Charmux documents the ancient texts these inventions were found in. Yet perhaps as amazing was the submerged city found off the Bahamas by five scuba divers in 1970, with its majestic golden hued pyramid surrounded by domes, rectangular buildings, unidentified metallic instruments, and the statue holding the mysterious crystal containing seven miniature pyramids!

The crystal, brought to the surface by Dr. Ray Brown, amplifies energy passed through it, emits rays that heal diseases, and is made in a method unknown to the scientists who analyzed it. It was found in a mysteriously lit up chamber inside the underwater pyramid with some kind of ray gun like instrument pointed at it. Kirlian photographs, which record impressions beyond our limited range of vision, showed an eye inside the crystal not visible to the naked eye.

What technology could build a long blacktop paved road for hundreds of miles that was still in good condition over 10,000 years later! This road was found underwater off the East Coast by the deep diving submarine Aluminaut and contained magnesium oxide.

In 1977, a mysterious discovery was made on the floor of the Atlantic concerning an unknown technology. A 650-foot pyramid was mysteriously lit up, with sparkling white water surrounding it that turned deep green, a shocking contrast to the dark black waters at that depth. The discovery was photographed by Arl Marahall's expedition off Cay Sal.

Dr. William Bell's 1958 photos taken on the bottom of the Atlantic showed a six-foot spire protruding from a couple of circular gear-like bases with peculiar light emanations from the bottom of the shaft. Were these the remnants of the Eternal Flame spoken of by the ancients, powered by an inter dimensional cosmic energy taken out of the atmosphere by a form of crystal conductor at the apex of pyramids or towers?

Pyramids larger than any building in the world made in our modern times have been found on the bottom the Atlantic Ocean and in China, and one in Egypt that our own technology has failed to match. These Pyramids have cement that our scientists admit is superior to what we use today. The writings of the ancients describe pyramids as Time Capsules containing the history and technology of the Empire of the Sun and latter day Atlantis. A huge pyramid, in 10,000 feet of Atlantic water, was reported to have been found with a pulsating crystal on top of it, by Tony Benik's expedition. The group also found an opaque crystal tablet there, and reported that when a light was beamed through it, mysterious inscriptions became visible. More underwater pyramids were found off Central America, Yucatan, and Louisiana, where domes were found in the Straits of Florida. A marble Greek style building was found between Florida and Cuba. And what about the column that radiated energy Dr. Zink found of the Bahamas in 1957?

Zink also brought up other artifacts from his dives over Atlantis, and he was interviewed by Mind International agent Steve Forsberg.

One of the most amazing finds on the bottom of the Atlantic was reported by Captain Reyes Miraga's crew on the salvage ship Talia from Spain. They video-taped miles of pillared temples, buildings, and statues and wide curving boulevards, with smaller avenues branching out from the center like spokes in a wheel, with majestic temples and pyramids. Much of this city, as well as the city found off Spain by Dr. Maxine Asher's expedition and later by Professor Akayonove's expedition (all photographed), show a startling similarity to Plato's description of Atlantis!

More than 30 separate ruins have been found on the bottom of the Atlantic since 1956, and in ancient libraries, several old maps showing Atlantis and its island chain have been found. The islands are known as Aryan, Og. Poseid, and Antigua and the nation was Atlan. Garden City, or Poseid, was reportedly the capital of a continent stretching from off of North Africa and Europe to off Florida with a tropical climate on the western and southern shores, and a cool climate on the north and east.

According to Plato and many other ancient historians, Atlantis had the most advanced and peaceful government in the world during its height, and for thousands of years planet Earth was at peace with a form of political system we have not seen the equal of since! Respected ancient historians and explorers like Diodorus, Kantor, Marcellinus, Proculus, Plutarch, Herodotus, (perhaps the greatest historian of ancient times). Timagenus. Aelenus, Theopompos, and more all wrote about the Atlantis they believed was a real superior civilization lost in time. All ancient nations in the Americas spoke of Atlantis in their writings!

ATLANTEAN SCIENCE

What was life like in the Golden Age of Atlantis? Ancient writers tell of how people lived to be a thousand years old in an age, when cosmic science ended all disease, and of an empire that accumulated so much gold over 50,000 years that they paved their streets with it, covered their temples and buildings with sheets of it, and wore fine gold meshed clothing. Gold was worth virtually nothing in the Atlantean empire. It was a building material as common as steel is today. The Atlanteans theoretically mined most of the world's gold supply and used it!

Ancient writings from around the world are clear in their detailed accounts of the spaceships and advanced aircraft of Atlantean times. The Mayans, Aztecs, and Incans told the conquistadors of these Atlantean sky ships that transported the white celestial rulers from the East. Atlantean technology spread to the Rama region of Asia with their expanding colonizations. The ancient Vaimanika sastra writings discovered in India in 1875, details the size of flying machines, how they are steered, how they are protected from violent storms, and lightning, and how to switch the drive to solar energy when the fuel supply becomes low. The writings relate to 70 authorities and 10 experts on ancient air travel! The texts are extremely precise and easy to understand by modern scientists, except for several metals and alloys which they cannot recognize.

VIMANAS were the "flying boats of the golden age" In ancient writings from Asia. Four main types of Vimanas were described, including the Conical gold craft, the Silver Rockets, the three story airships, and the SAKUNA ships that were constructed in bird shapes. There were 113 different models of these 4 base classes of airships. Eight solar energy tubes were described in the solar energy propulsion section of the texts. The ancient VYMANIKA SHAASTRA text clearly describes pilot training, flight paths, individual parts of flying machines, as well as clothing for pilots and passengers, and the food recommended for long flight. Included in these writings is technical detail on the metals used, and propulsion units. There is a checklist of 32 instructions for the pilots before they were allowed to fly. The Instructions included battle maneuvering, how to use instruments to see and hear at great distances, and how to zig zag. 16 types of heat resistant metals were named.

Other ancient historical writings from India describe mercury powered aircraft, thought to be unbelievable until NASA scientists discovered that mercury is a superior rocket propulsion system! How did the ancients know about mercury rocket propulsion and solar energy drives?

More remarkable is the ancient literature from Egypt, Central America, Asia, Phoenicia and Babylonia concerning how these spacecraft traveled to other planets and returned to Earth, how they utilized weapons in a "Star Wars' fashion, how these crafts could not be damaged by humans on Earth, and were piloted by astronauts ancient paintings and carvings show in space suits! The Atlanteans definitely sent spacecraft to their colonies in Luxor and the Middle East, to Central America and Asia, according to many ancient writings. These writings sounded too much like science fiction to the early Christians who lived in a much later day, so they censored these accounts from our history books! And yet, historians believed all they saw in the sky! Some modern researchers believe the later Star of Bethlehem was a spaceship, because no star can travel billions of miles in a few hours; UFOs look like stars from a distance!

Atlanteans who had spacecraft, as well as the ASVINS in Asia with their triangular three-wheeled flying machines (described in the Rig Veda), and the Lemurians with their AURAAURAUVA (flying pearly shells of divinity) that were capable of interplanetary travel & theoretically could have gone to Mars. Why was it that the NASA space program sent probes to photograph Mars which took clear photographs of a mysterious face and pyramids on Mars, that were published in major and local newspapers across the United States in September 1988? Were these connected to the pyramids and sphinx in ancient Egypt and Atlantis by the same race that colonized Egypt from Atlantis? Were ancient astronauts who ruled the ancient world based on Atlantis?

The truth is that people in ancient empires before Christ believed in ancient aircraft and spacecraft and Interplanetary travel as easily as the public does today! Why then do so many people today refuse to believe what the ancients believed was reality simply because it was two thousand years ago? The Hebrews and Romans and Medieval priests later censored facts like spacecraft, the map of our solar system, and other truths out of history books for their "Earth is the center of the universe, there are no planets after Saturn, the sun revolves around the Earth, the world is flat," and other lies then part of their history books. Columbus and telescopes proved medieval history books false. Just like ruins on the bottom of the ocean are now proving current history books false.

The moon was said to have once been part of the Atlantean Empire. The first satellite to orbit the moon sent back a photo of an ancient pyramid on the dark side of the moon that we have examined, and it was censored from the public by the U.S. government with other Moon ruins. Ruins of walls and roads were found on the Moon by astronauts who will not speak publicly due to the $10,000 fine, ten-year Jail sentence, and dishonorable discharge for violating official U.S. Government regulation 200-2.

Note: William Blair, archaeologist specialist from the Boeing Institute of Biotechnology, analyzed a photo taken by Lunar Orbitter 2 Probe from the western edge of the Sea of Tranquillity on the moon, showing a clear white structure resembling the Washington Monument and estimated 639 feet tall. There were similar structures nearby. Their triangular similar structures were clearly NOT randomly irregular.

In his well-researched book "Footprints on the Sands of Time". L.M. Lewis details all the ancient writings about Atlantean Air Force.

THE EMPIRE AT ITS HEIGHT

Most ancient writers on Atlantis agree that the Atlanteans attained a zenith of luxury and that it led to their downfall. The ancients said Atlanteans became so materialistic and hedonistic that they lost their spiritual vision, and turned away from God.

We have no ancient writings describing details of life in Atlantis . . . that is, found in the world's museums and libraries, other than these referenced above. We do have the writings of the many Mystery Schools, the cosmic universities from the dawn of time claiming to have preserved the Ageless Wisdom secretly through the centuries. The mystery schools from Lemuria and Atlantis reportedly taught the history of the planet since the dawn of time, and the secrets of how to master life and the environment - how to heal all diseases, slow the aging process, control the weather, eliminate harmful insects, alchemy, and how to use crystals for power systems. The mystery schools also taught telepathy for communications, teleportation for travel, and mind-over-matter techniques that gave those initiates superhuman powers. This knowledge, known as the Secret Science, is available today to the accepted initiates of the existing mystery schools around the world to pass on to a future age when the mass of humanity would be evolved enough to inherit it. That age is now approaching. (based in secret temples inside Mt. Shasta, the Andes, Tetons, Himalayas)

The only ruins of land transport reported is the evidence of monorails and plastic buildings on the floor of the Atlantic reported by Boris Asturua's expedition from a sunken city 400 miles off of Portugal.

Atlanteans were said to have been extremely good looking people. They allegedly wore intricate bejeweled clothing, and living a life of leisure of fun, partying, feasting, dancing, and bliss on exotic drugs.

In their creation of Heaven on Earth, they had no desire to pursue the idea of Heaven after Death, believing they 'had it made' on Earth. Biologists today admit that the brain capacity of skulls found from the later Atlantean era is larger than that of modern man! They used the 90 percent of the brain that the average human cannot use today and could see and hear beyond our very limited range of those senses & seeing auras of rainbow colors around all living things and hearing into the higher frequencies of the animals.

Atlanteans created a national work force of robots, androids, and humanoids from genetic engineering to create and maintain most of the material plane empire and that computers controlled the robots and androids. Perpetual motion machines were created that created and operated other machines and repaired them. Atlantis was on the verge of "life without instrumentalities." In other words, the Empire was controlled by machines and computers that did everything for the citizens. No Atlantean had to work or go to school. VRIL helmets educated the people while they were asleep; a teenager had knowledge beyond that of even the moot respected geniuses of our Age. With a thousand year life span to acquire knowledge, Atlanteans were aware & informed beyond our imaginations.

Atlantean science then fostered some bizarre genetic creations-they discovered ways to cross-breed species to create mermaids and mermen, cyclops, unicorns and other creatures we call mythology but the many ancient writers called Reality after seeing them! Apparently some survived til the Rise and Fall of the Greek Empire, where belief in such creatures was widespread!

THE END OF THE EMPIRE

Genetic engineering also resulted in Atlanteans of super strength & huge stature (Titans) able to perform superman tasks. The Atlantean people could also telepathically communicate with porpoises (their symbol). The Atlanteans mastered submarines; they created underwater cities in the Atlantic Ocean in domes.

Atlantean scientists also learned how to block brain impulses to parts of the brain that caused crime and negative emotions; they later used this technique to control minds. They were quite clever; they took over the government. The leaders began to keep the secret sciences from the general population in order to control the masses. The masses depended on the government for food, clothing, and shelter. Those leaders claiming to be High Priests in the pyramid temples were really mad scientists with a super science that seemed like magic to the uninitiated.

The bored leaders of utopia, with an entire planet as their toy and game board, began to seek satisfaction in POWER because there was NOTHING LEFT MATERIALLY TO ATTAIN. The hedonistic population became so entranced by exotic drugs and leisure and materialism they worshipped the scientific priests and lost awareness of the reality around them. Hence, telepathic warfare, human sacrifices, and a WAR OF MINDS throughout the empire broke out. Atlantean leaders wanted to control the whole world and form a planetary empire. They offered other continents their technology and luxuries in exchange for control of those nations, and many empires Joined Atlantis. However, the Rama Empire in Asia and the Athens Empire in Europe refused to become Atlantean. Atlantean psychic attack on those lands failed against even more superior cosmic forces.

World leaders warned the Atlantean citizens and leaders that they would destroy themselves as well as life itself if they didn't stop mis-using cosmic, nuclear, and psychic energies, that the misuse of technology could lead to terrible earthquakes, tidal waves, and eruptions that could destroy the empire. This warning was ignored by millions and millions of people, who Just like today, lived fur "today" while ignoring the future...humanity so concerned about their daily existence and pleasures that they ignored the future, to their own demise. Some believed that their great scientists could save them with technology; many believed that people simply reincarnate, so why fear death?

Government scientists knew that cataclysms had already destroyed most of Lemuria around 24,000 B.C., Thule before that, and had split up Atlantis into three huge islands only 400 years earlier! Atlantean scientists created underground cities in South America, under the Atlantic ocean, below the South Polar continent {then ice-free), and on the Moon to escape worldwide calamities! They had huge aircraft. waiting in rescue them. Most incredible was Rainbow City beneath Antarctica, an ultra modem spaceport. (Rainbow City and the Inner Earth by Michael Barton)"








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by EN-MAR - Steve Omar


STAR WARS

The Atlanteans used laser rays & crystals to fuel their power plants. There was a huge "Firestone", with power generated by filtering the rays of the sun through ruby prisms, which concentrated energy upon instruments connected in the transportation complex by remote control. Inside a huge dome with a sliding roof, cosmic energy stations transmitted beams that could be turned up so high, they became the famous Death Ray. (according to Ruth Montgomery, and Edgar Cayce in their metaphysical receiving sessions)

Scientists also perfected Anti-matter. When a beam of anti-matter comes in contact with ordinary matter, it instantaneously converted it into invisible energy. In other words, it vaporized it!

No wonder traces of Atlantean buildings and cities are so hard to find. They were converted into invisible energy!

It is said that one of these anti-matter rays is still operating in the Bermuda Triangle, underwater & has been causing ships and planes to disappear. Today that ray is out of control.

Many Atlanteans fled to underground cities that were later buried by flooding oceans, crushed under the glaciers, or buried by mud and debris.

This metaphysical version of Atlantis is difficult to prove without visible evidence. However, ancient writings tell about much of the destruction and the weapons involved.

A world war broke out over planet Earth, and spread into outer space. British astronomers have published evidence that some of the Moon craters are formed exactly like atomic bomb craters on Earth, which have a wall and floor structure totally different from the usual meteor craters nearby! (Lamont Observatory, Great Britain on "Moon Craters") There are reports of astronauts finding unusually high radiation emissions coming from those craters!

Apparently a war broke out between the Rama Empire and Telos (North America) and Atlantis and Athens which developed into a world war. The war spread to South America, where magnificent monolithic cities were found by Spanish explorers in the remote dense Amazon Jungle in the explorations in search of the Seven Cities of Gold between 1500 and 1775. Explorers' diaries and books, left to us in South American libraries, tell of once splendid cities totally devastated by some huge cataclysm. Buildings appeared to have been melted by some fantastic heat. Huge trees were toppled like toys. No human remained in these cities to tell the story! One expedition reported finding a splendid city in which absolutely no vegetation would grow even though it had been surrounded by the dense jungle for untold thousands of years. Logically the rain forest should have overgrown the city, but atomic radiation had prevented this from happening! Many local tribes told the Spaniards that the abandoned cities were so old that there was no known history except that some horrible world cataclysm had destroyed the white races that had lived in them. Natives feared to even enter these ruins! Mysterious tribes of white Indians roamed the jungles nearby with no memory of their former glory; the statues remaining showed handsome white men. One city found was inhabited by a race of dwarf humanoids, perhaps a genetic mutation from atomic fallout!

According to ancient books from India, like the Book of Dzvan. Ramavana. Dronaparva, and others, the Rama Empire was devastated by nuclear bombs, laser powered guided missiles, rockets, and fallout described in such detail that the truth cannot be mistaken! There is no way that primitive men could have invented that technical knowledge! And the ruins of ????? and radiated skeletons found in the Gobi desert look exactly like what was left in Japan and the U.S. deserts after the first atomic bombs were tested and used! The desert sands in the ruined city in the Gobi is vitrified into glass just exactly like the desert sands in Nevada where atomic bombs were tested in the 1940s, and the huge hard solid stone buildings are melted by a temperature so high that it could have only been caused by lasers or atomic bombs! These ancient writings clearly detail weapons and warfare, not from a comet or meteor!

NUCLEAR BOMBS OF ANCIENTS

According to a very old historical book form India, the Book of Dzvan, huge metal aircraft landed in two cities in their area, and a war broke out using "metal lances that traveled on a Beam of Light." What else could that mean other than a guided missile powered by a laser beam? The book continues to give a vivid detailed description of the atomic explosions that followed when the missile hit its target, including the mushroom cloud, the fireball that made men blind when they looked at it, the unbearable wave of heat, genetic deformities after the battle, and radiation sickness exactly like what happened in Hiroshima, Japan after an atomic bomb was dropped in 1945!! How could ancients have known such details without witnessing to it? Furthermore, the Sanskrit Mausola purva refers to 'An Unknown Weapon' described as an iron device that shot out a thunderbolt which reduced to ashes entire races of the Vrishnis and the Anhakas. The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. Pottery broke. Birds turned white. All foodstuffs were later infected. Doesn't that sound just like an atomic explosion and fallout symptoms? The Rig Veda adds more details, stating "the fire from the terrible weapon destroyed cities by producing a light brighter than a thousand suns. This fire made men's hair and nails fall out and colored their feet red".

RUINS DISCOVERED

The Asian city of Mohenjo Daro is one of the oldest ever found, and it looked like it was nuked. It originally was built on two islands in the Indus River. Within a radius of 1.5 kilometers, three different degrees of devastation spread out from the Center like in atomic explosions. Enormous heat totally disintegrated the center of the city. Black fragments were melted and fused together everywhere here. There is no geological evidence of any volcanic activity in the area! The heat reached at least 2,000 degrees centigrade according to geological monitoring.

Skeletons of people lying hand in hand were discovered all over the suburbs, as they bad been struck suddenly.

Where else did the Atlanteans strike? Why is it that all of the great Mayan, Aztec, Inca, and Toltec civilizations in the Americas were built in the South tropics in hot steamy uncomfortable humid jungles so dense it was a major hassle for farming and construction, or so high up in the desolate barren Andes farming was exceptionally difficult? The Spaniards were confused about why those races did not build their cities in the fertile more pleasant valleys of what is now the United States, and asked the ancient rulers why? They all gave the Spaniards the same answer, "North America is the Land of Death". They told of a huge war there long ago using terrible weapons from the sky that devastated the cities, and left a mysterious energy in the air that killed the crops, poisoned the survivors, and ruined the soil. Atomic bombs eh?

The Hopi Indians told of the destroyed Red City by terrible sky weapons before their times, and how they were the Children of the Rainbow from sunken Mu. (Dr. George Hunt Williamson in the 1950's and Maui's Leslie Ports in 1971 interviewed Hopis to get this information) In the 19th century. Captain Ives William Walker made some archeological discoveries in that region that still baffle scientists. He said he "discovered" in the area between the Gila and San Juan, many ancient ruins, including a city about a mile long. At the center of the city was a huge rock with the wreckage of an immense structure on top. The south end seemed to be melted with part of the rock. The lines of the streets were still visible, with the house positions. The local Indians had a religious fear of the ruined city, like the natives in South America.

Other vitrified and melted ruins of stone cities were found in remote areas of Death Valley, California, the Gobi Desert, and incredibly, on the Moon. (this was censored by N.A.S.A.)

Some of the Moon ruins information leaked out in the public on space mission broadcasts before the cover-up. For instance, :the domical structures are partially filled up. Breech has either filled into structures before they were built or the Domes are younger that the floor." The astronauts said all of that while exploring the moon in public broadcasts, and also used the terms "blocks", "roads", and the Apollo statement "it's a pyramids shape." What were the astronauts describing? The official NASA explanation is "geological metaphors. However, the scientist who taught geology to those astronauts admitted he was totally baffled by those terms! This geologist, Farouk El Bez, added, "not every discovery has been announced." Astronaut Irwin made the most direct comment "that's the most organized structure I have ever seen." MIND INTERNATIONAL directors saw the photos taken of these obviously man made structures from the air by Lunar Orbitter 2 and Ranger 4 satellites!

In the public library In Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, is the HISTORICAL ACCOUNT OF A HIDDEN AND GREAT CITY OF ANCIENT DATE FOUND WITHOUT INHABITANTS. Over 300 men were on an expedition deep into the Amazon Jungle in search of the gold, and they found a ruined paved road, part of which had been destroyed by a huge disaster. They followed into the ruins to a once splendid deserted city. The road in one area was a view of crystals in multi-colored brilliance. "We entered under three arches of great height. We made out letters which we copied. Behind was a wide street with houses of great size here and there, sculpted and blackened by age." The book went on to describe how there was no furniture in the houses,"no footprints, and no life anywhere. There was a huge plaza, statue, and an obelisk badly damaged as if struck by lightning and a temple with a magnificent facade. In the halls were found art of great beauty and statues and portraits. "In all the expanse of mills we found no grass, weeds, trees or plants. The country beyond the city consisted of green fields dotted with blooming flowers.

Spherical gold coins, hieroglyphics, ancient beyond recognition, and artifacts were found. What disaster destroyed this once glorious city having no trace of inhabitants? And what energy other than nuclear fallout could exterminate all vegetation and keep the jungle from overgrowing the city for thousands of years?

What caused great roads and buildings and a harbor like structure to sink off Bimini Island in the Atlantic thousands of years ago, only to be rediscovered and photographed by Dr. Manson Valentine's expedition In the 1960s? And what of the similar ruins found underwater off Morocco, on the Atlantic Ampere Seamount In 1978, or in 1981 below the Atlantic off the Canary Islands by P. Cappellano's expedition? What is the lOO by 70 foot rectangular structure photographed off Andros Island by different researchers, or the paved blacktop road in excellent condition on the bottom of the ocean off Florida found by the Nikolai Seleznev "Aluminaut?" And what about the submarine that Commander Nikolai Seleznev commanded to take films of a huge dome magnificent boulevards, temples, and homes on the Atlantic floor with mysterious energy rays still being emitted, that disrupted the entire electrical system on the sub!

According to Dr. George Hunt Williamson, who wrote and lectured about an ancient manuscript he found in a temple in the Andes, wise Atlanteans and Lemurians who predicted the 'end' escaped to "safety areas" high in the Andes and Himalayan mountains, as well as underground inside mountains, while many others were rescued in saucer shaped spacecraft that took the survivors to Mars and Venus (to bases where they awaited to return to Earth to begin a new civilization. Apparently the Atlanteans and Lemurians had Interplanetary craft. Williamson added that these wise leaders secretly buried the Ageless Wisdom, as well as the history and science of the Empire of the Sun in time capsules around the globe made of an indestructible metal called "tellurium" (what flying discs were made out of.)

LOST IN THE SANDS OF TIME

We have been told that the Attentions nearly blew our planet up! They literally blew-up their own empire. The Atlantean nation was destroyed in a single night! While part of Atlantis continued to be submerged over the waning centuries, most of the continent & its entire population were destroyed on a single night by tidal waves hundreds of feet high, earthquakes, fire, nuclear and cosmic explosions.

According to psychics like Edgar Cayce and Ruth Montgomery, who both have over 90% accuracy at predicting major events in the 20th Century, the Death Ray got out of control as it left the monolithic Dome of Atlantis and vaporized the enemies. This ray could penetrate anything on Earth and across space, but could not hit a target on the opposite side of the world based on the Universal Laws of Light Refraction. So the death ray was aimed straight underground below Atlantis to travel through the Earth to strike cities In the Rama Empire on the opposite side! The resulting disruption of the inner Earth's stability caused the planet to tip on it's axis like a wobbling top, sending monstrous tidal waves over continents. Scientists have all the proof they need to verify this polar shift and how it brought glaciers to warm & dry lands immediately;. it explains how oceans swept over the lands, nuclear ruins arid radiated skeletons at the bottom of our present oceans! Scientists and tourists alike can see for themselves the ancient ruined city and its seaport and beaches two miles up in the Andes Mountains at Tiajuanaco, Bolivia and you may dive off Paradise Point on Bimini Island and see ruins on the sea floor yourself.

Huge cracks in the Earth opened and swallowed entire cities, lava buried roads and towns: glacier ground cities to powder and covered them, the Death Ray and nuclear bombs disintegrated civilizations, and tons of mud from receding tidal waves buried whole cultures. 400+ miles-per-hour winds blew vehicles and objects high into the sky and out to sea, only to 'rain' matter and flesh back to the new ocean bottoms. The rampaging fires destroyed every forest on the planet and most of its animal life. The annihilation was so complete that mammoths, saber toothed tigers, bison, and other animals became extinct! Nuclear winter set in & the smoke of thousands of erupting volcanoes and bombs hid the sun for decades and froze life on the surface. Those who remained on the surface in colonies died.

Underground survivors waited in bomb shelters for the deadly radiation to clear, on a planet where the sun and stars would not shine for annems..........

There is then a gap in history between the end of Atlantis and the dawn of Egypt when the world was over-run by savages and nomads. Most alarming were the presence of the mutated humanoids called the Deros!

Throughout these last few centuries, local newspapers around the world have reported human encounters with dwarfish hairy humanoids that have huge heads and large glowing yellow eyes. These sub-humans live in caves and tunnels below forests and swamps, they are incredibly strong, and surface at night to capture cattle or other farm animals, yet sometimes capture humans for food, According to Richard Shaver, who spent over a decade investigating reports, the DEROS are these creatures.

Deros are the mutated descendants of Atlanteans who fled into underground tunnels to escape the destruction, and couldn't return to the surface for centuries due to atomic radiation fallout. When the radiation finally cleared somewhat, they had genetically adapted to the darkness in the tunnels and could no longer stand sunlight! The destruction of the power light transmitter on Atlantis had put out the lights in the tunnels.

Shaver claims he penetrated their tunnels and before escaping witnessed Atlantean machinery still operating on perpetual motion engines and providing the Deros with various luxuries except for food.

Throughout history, Deros have been mistaken for many mythological creatures that thousands of witnesses swear they saw in the Middle Ages to present. Not all mythical creatures are Deros, but many of the evil ones were. Deros terrorized farmers in Arkansas and Brazil in the 1970s!

Underground in New Zealand and England many witnesses have reported hearing the sounds of machinery coming from the depths of holes in the ground, as well as encounters with humanoid dwarfs with glowing eyes!

The most effective weapon against them has been found to be a flashlight because the Deros are terrified of bright light.

A few remain alive.

Shaver added that he found evidence that part of the Atlantean Empire, known as Teros, was in underground cities below Antarctica! A very ancient map show Antarctica before it had ice, with mountain ranges that modern science did not re-discover until the 1950s! This old map also shows Atlantis (the Phi re'is map). The southern polar continent was then an Atlantean colony with underground cities where Atlanteans fled to continue their civilization and scientific progress, without interruption...for 10,000 more years! Researchers like Michael Barton and Richard Shaver claim that many so called U.F.O.s seen in our skies are piloted by Atlanteans and Lemurians from Teros who live in an inner Atlantis with its capital city translated as "Rainbow City."

FROM DUST TO DUST

Centuries vanished in time before the survivors returned to the surface of our planet from their underground shelters. It was a world altered beyond recognition on by the sands of time.

Gone were all of humanity's great achievements. Gone was 60,000 years of scientific progress...destroyed in one single night.

Gone were the futuristic crystal cities, an age which today's science can only envision will be a reality really existed in that ever-so-faint yet brilliant distant past.

Gone were the interplanetary ships, the teleportation temples, and the cities of gold. Gone were mankind's hopes-their dreams.

From dust to dust......

STARTING AGAIN

Humanity was faced with the great task of building a new world in the face of the overwhelming devastation of the old.

The New Age movement of that day grew to herald the long prophesied vision of an age of peace, love, and brotherhood. It was written that less than one-tenth of humanity survived to witness that dawn of the New Age.

Gone were the factories, the machines, and the robots that had supplied Atlantis with all her needs. Gone were the planetary governments that had made all decision for a race that had ceased to think for itself. What was left in the ashes was global anarchy. Some believed the Atlanteans had gambled with "the Creator" in a deadly game of life and had lost. The devastation that followed had few, if any, parallels in history.

Humanity fumbled for 600 centuries (that's 60,000 years). Finding the vegetation too contaminated to eat and soil too contaminated to plant, lacking the knowledge of simple farming and not even knowing how to create a mere shovel, these Atlantean refugees from total luxury starved by the millions. After a few centuries humanity degenerated back into savagery. That is why relics of a stone age and a space age have been found in the same places. Technicians became cavemen.

....Wow.

Not only do these people posit the existence of lost civilizations, and can describe their rituals, but not get a mention in mainstream history? That's quite a coup!

--Jaylemurph

Interesting read. I read it all.

I heard/read about the nuclear war that happened. And the deserts of today was the result. :/

The supposed finding of the Crystal City off the Bahamas in the 1970s makes me suspicious of this whole thing. This would be major news in the scientific and historical community - yet we've heard nothing of this.

http://www.think-aboutit.com/atlantis.htm


"Living Crystals of Atlantis
Mark Hammons (m-hamm@vm1.spcs.umn.edu) Apr 5 1995 writes:


Living Crystals of Atlantis, I
Earlier this year I was blessed with a rather unique experience brought about by a request from one of our illustrious number here to whom I had offered a Christmas gift of any information I could obtain for him through the use of my psensibilities. Such offers are not made lightly, nor often; and I was frankly very surprised by his request. To the near contempt of his wife, I was asked not for winning lottery numbers but--get this wisdom: "What is in the hidden chamber located near the Sphinx?"

So, I went to have a look-psee. I did not expect much, really, since I had not been curious before. And to my utter astonishment I encountered something so wonderful that it has, on reflection, changed my consciousness. If it can do this half a world away, what the physical presence of the thing can bring about will be as exciting a discovery as anyone could hope for.

As the time draws upon us for the revelations of the ancient civilization that we summarize by the label "Atlantis," I must first stop and pay homage to the great seer Edgar Cayce, who spent his life giving us glimpses of a vanished world for which until the future now at hand there would be little tangible physical evidence; and all of that misidentified or misinterpreted, either out of ignorance or outright malice.

I did not believe Edgar Cayce for many years. I could read his words, like everyone else, but I did not ascribe any more reality to them than I did Edgar Rice Burroughs. In fact, I categorized them both simply as a pleasant read, and that was all. Nice visions, which could induce a wistful reverie repleat with images from the now vanished series of Atlantis-themed movies that sprouted during the 1960s of my youth. How simple life used to be, when lasers existed only in B grade movies, and channels were something selectable on television (and there were only three!).

Now, I see what is upon us and I am relieved. Relieved to understand that someone who worked as hard for others as Edgar Cayce did by giving over his lifetime to trance states--a sacrifice, yes--to heal many people he would never meet; and receive largely poverty and ridicule for his trouble. I am also relieved to understand that, yes, my own time can be a fantastic one, where the forces of right can outweigh the forces of wrong, when the truth can come irrefutably to light, as is about to happen--indeed has already happened and we wait only to be informed.

What we call "Atlantis" is a Greek permutation of the sound "atl." It is no accident that this same sound survived in the languages of the New World, either. It is perhaps the oldest sound on earth with a continuous meaningful resonance. Much of the Greek story is true in a sense, but like the earlier chapters of the Judeo-Christian Bible it is only a shadow of a former reality. The ancient Egyptians caught only the barest echo in their brief associations with the remnants of what were the "Atlanteans," who were themselves only the distant descendants of the original settlers of that now almost vanished island continent. Only the incorruptible biological memories of some eels in their yearly progress from the European mainland to the Sargasso Sea serves as a living reminder of what was once their spawning estuaries.

The Atlanteans, to use a word, were a race of non-physical beings in the sense that you are used to the notion of a body. They were noncorporeal mind streams, who could project themselves into the material world. You can think of them as "aliens" in that truest of senses, for they were not bipeds or monopeds. They floated about with--for lack of a better phrase--an atmosphere. And they came to earth for reasons that we cannot even conceive. But in time they became attached to it, to the pleasures of life, moving from one organic body to another--and they got trapped. Like an addiction.

In a narrative sense, they were seeds of a sort, but how do you talk in mental abstractions about something that was completely outside such gross and clumsy things as language? In any event, what concerns us is their gift, the lasting presence of their existence on the earth which is about to come into our hands--and minds.

Atlanteans communicated by images. Spoken and written languages appeared only later, when their awareness of their original noncorporeal states disappeared. This happened because they liked sex, basically. When it is said that the division of the sexes came only recently, the cleavage (sorry) of what had been one androgynous mind stream became two--male and female consciousness, even though the anthropoids into which they projected themselves, of course, already possessed these biological distinctions.

When this division happened, there was a separation from direct awareness of their former existence. They became mired, and as they procreated their abilities became weaker and weaker (Remember this is a very brief account of what is vastly more complex and detailed). Rather than communicate directly by mind-to-mind actuality, they found themselves using secondary images--memories. They still had strong psi energies--telepathy was to them what television is to us. In time, to their horror, they discovered that they could not contain all the memories that they wanted.

We have just skipped about 50,000 years of history here, but I am wanting only to talk about what is being dug up on the Giza plateau. For a while, Atlantean incarnations still had flashes of great spiritual power. It was in the use of this that the idea of the "living" crystals was conceived and executed. Exceedingly pure silicon was formed with certain trace metallic elements that interacted with the electromagnetic field of the earth. These things were unutterably pure and vibrant. Their resonance was tuned to such a delicate pitch that these crystals could be impressed with the contents of an Atlantean mind--which was still exponentially more powerful that the current human one. In effect, lives could be deposited in these crystals as "memories," something akin to a hard drive in our terms.

The living crystals were made during only a brief period of time, before the decay of the Earth's magnetosphere because of their other technologies. While many were made, and they were housed with the greatest of reverence, they became in time the source of great contention--even vast bloodletting. Finally, most were either lost, hidden, or destroyed by quakes. But some few survived and were retrieved from their hiding places when it was clear that the end was near for their ancient civilization.

One of these was taken to Egypt, where it was impressed with the conscious awareness of all their history, all their knowledge and what they could of their living culture. It is in this sense that the crystal is "living," not that the crystal itself is biological. And it is this crystal that is about to be unearthed. Merely the presence of the human minds in contact with it will cause the activation of what is the equivalent of a radio broadcast. We will all hear what the crystal was left to tell us. No one can hide it, no one can deny you possession. Even the attempt to destroy it will fail, because the crystals are sacred in the purest sense. No one can act to destroy it, because that act is not possible toward the stone. Perhaps from this brief description you can see why they were so valued.

There is no need to learn Atlantean. If you want, it will be in your head, full and complete. And you will know, through direct perception, what Atlantis was truly about. You will feel the terrific sadness they felt, the loss and the depression of failure. You will have the direct perception of how they saw the world, and the warning implicit in their hall of records. And you will understand the shape of the great pyramid, what it did, and why it was built. And you will feel the sadness that I feel, when I realize that the Golden Age is not a myth, that there once was a time when death did not walk the earth. Whatever part of you that contains remnants of that in your genes will resonant--and to the ability your are able, you will be resurrected, even in the flesh. Surprise, surprise.

Living Crystals of Atlantis, II
By request, some more information about the later Atlantean cultures, their technology, and what relevance this has to our own continuum.

(It is very hard to go far enough back in the time streams and experience the original Atlantean emergence. The probability currents for the aggregation of beings, both subtle and gross (biological) that make up the Atlantean line diverge. Since anyone able to understand these writings knows neither the past or the future has any inherently determinate existence without relationship to the present moment, this difficulty is visible. What is presently here about earlier Atlantean beings is derived from the last processional cycle--approx. a range limit of 25,000 BCE), and is thus already restricted to linear modalities.

The Atlanteans were very attached to their homes. This is not surprising because they originated from "heavenly" beings who projected their consciousness into this material world. Their whole "thrust" was into the establishment of "points" of focus and "rotating" their conscious awareness through the life cycle of different creatures. At first, they still had identification with their "subtle" bodies; that is that part of their consciousness that existed outside the space/time continuum they were exploring. Apparently they did this for the pleasure of it, like some people like jumping into cold swimming pools. "It's great once you get in."

So they took up bodies--actually, at first, they took up species. Individual lives were beyond the very earliest Atlanteans. They experienced continuities, not objects. At first, they didn't even understand objective existence, only the rhythms of process. Intrigued, to cut the story short, they kept going deeper and deeper, until many of them (not all) lost consciousness of the process of the larger order--the whole interlinked life of the planet-- and started incarnating as herds, flocks, whatever, until they lost multi-dimensional consciousness altogether and individualized. Even then, they could pass from one individual body to another.

They thought this was great progress. Death was still incomprehensible to them.

After assuming individual form--they had decided on a particular anthropoid for the base--they used their great mental powers and recreated the creature into a pattern they felt was "superior." They in-formed the creature, and by their presence disrupted the "natural" evolution of the beings. Some were more successful--or interested-- than others at this adaptation. Some of the newly made beings were deformed; that is, the Atlantean mind in attempting to merge the energies mistook--or did it deliberately for fun--the form, and there were altered creatures with wings, hooved legs, etc.; part human, part beast. Few of these were fertile, but because they had been created with higher orders of energy they lived for very long periods of time.

The very first Atlanteans were physically very big. The so-called "giants" of the Bible, the myths of the Titans, are all reflections of these events. The greater the power of the informing corporeal, the longer the life of the individual being. Some of them lived for a thousand or more years in the same body. They got to liking it, and eventually the embodiment inside a furnace of life--which they felt intensely, and that was why they were drawn into biological forms in the first place-- they got developed a preference for the SAME form.

Psychologically, this was characteristic of everything they did. Even as they continued what we think of as a DESCENT, or "falling out of heaven," they were thrilled with the apparently endless possibilities of temporal embedment. They were also physiologically fragile. Without the great powers of the indwelling noncorporeals, these forms could not survive in the natural biosphere. For this reason, a special environment was created for them, a large continental landmass informed by their minds from the earth's substance. It is this now vanished surface that we call "Atlantis."

It is interesting to note that there was already at this time a separation of the Atlanteans into two continua. There were those who "stopped" going further into the biological receptacles, and kept their greater mind powers. There were those who plowed right ahead with ever-increasing fascination in sensuality. Early on, these beings were very, very clever. They had only to look at something, so to speak, and understand its very essence, how it came into being, what its functions were, and what its destiny was. As they become more embedded, of course, they lost this power. But noticing this, they began to compensate with material devices. There were those who perceived that their effects were disruptive to the planet and who believed this was a violation of divine nature. This stream of consciousness is partly what Cayce called the Children of One. Those Atlanteans who pooh-poohed the notion that there was ANY divinity in nature beyond their own existence can be summarized with the label "Children of Belial." They are also called the Children of Light and Darkness.

To be fair--or at least a little compassionate--the motivations of the Darkbound were to survive as physiological creatures. They did not use the concept of "colonization," because they had no "homeland" consciousness from which to derive the idea. But in effect they had established a colony, and they wanted it to survive. This was actually an impulse they "picked up" from the creatures' instinctive urges, but they did not yet see how they were becoming irreparably merged with the matter and the corresponding alterations of their own self-awareness. And then they discovered death.

You have to realize the structural mechanics of these beings and their created biological matrices. There was a root grasping of all the biological functions of process. At least in the beginning, they were conscious of every cell, every mitochondria, every pulse of life. They indwelled in this, it is what attracted them, this flying, sparking articulation of energy. But, as they spent time in their bodies--and we are talking thousands of years-- they quite simply took all this for granted and forgot about it-- and started dinking with external objects. They were fascinated with the transference of function *without* sustained concentration on their parts. Each to their own, I suppose.

As their technology increased, their concentration on their bodies diminished. They were, in essence, projecting their consciousness even further into solidity. They liked playing with toys. And what wondrous toys by our standards. But the cost was to get out of touch--like being stranded on an island in the middle of a deep surging river--with the base functions of their bodies. They could no longer move from one to another "at will." Surprise.

No problem. They came up with a device to attain these functions. This technology--in all its permutations--is what will be recovered from the repositories now being uncovered, such as the Chamber of Records in Egypt. And these solutions served only to embed them further into their solid state. It amazes me to see that denial was in full bloom 25,000 years ago, just as it is today.

But, as you may have already guessed, their technology was a dead end. Literally. As they reproduced biologically, their physical size continued to diminish as the base anthropoid form escaped from their conscious control. So they started using enormous amounts of energy to maintain their corporeality. The upshot of this was to create a magnetic vacuole beneath their island continent. It fractured the crust, sent a shudder through the entire planet, creating the wobble in the earth's axis we call the precession of the equinoxes. And we are still about 80,000 years in the past when this happened. They didn't have a clue the earth would or even could respond in that way. They had lost that global or holistic sense of understanding because they had substituted machinery for mental effort, though most of it lacked what we would call moving parts, even further fragmenting their awareness's into physical senses. Oops.

The highest accomplishment of their material creation was the "living crystals." These were to their consciousness what transistors are to ours. And it is in the last 20,000 years of Atlantis that these technologies came into full blossom, which is still 32,500 years BCE. Cayce has done a beautiful job of rendering what it was like as the people came to understand their dilemma. The objects in the temples were divine--they contained all the store of sensual impression collected back into the far dim mists of the Origin Time, which they now knew only second hand. But that divinity was now outside of themselves, so they now thought, and that's what we inherited as collective archetypal consciousness when we, their slaves, were finally freed."

But that's another story.

Lemuria - A Reflection

"Germane, a group consciousness energy, states that "his" orientation is from a realm of integration that does not have a clear-cut density/dimensional level. The term "germane" in the English language means "significant relevance" or "coming from the same source". Germane therefore chose this term to somewhat personify his energy. Neither male nor female, he views us as evolving to become him as we begin the process of physical, emotional, mental and spiritual integration, which leads us back to the Source of All.

Note: This tape was from a session for a Japanese tour group touring both Sedona and Santa Fe. This is an excerpt from the complete tape which includes a Japanese translation.

Germane: Greetings to you. This is Germane. We're going to tell you a little story. Approximately 14,000 years ago, the culture known as Lemuria was thriving. There were also other cultures on Earth, such as Atlantis, which were thriving as well. The holy people or the prophets of the Lemurian culture began to be aware that something was going to be changing. They began receiving information that the Earth was going to go through a very dramatic shift. The shift that they were referring to was what you call the Great Flood. You've also called it the destruction of Atlantis. These holy people of Lemuria were very much in touch with the land. They were the ancient ancestors of the Native Americans. They began to be aware that it was very important that the knowledge from Lemuria be preserved. And so for about 2,000 to 3,000 years, they were preparing for this great cataclysm. They began spreading their teachings about the Earth and about mankind's history to as many people as they possibly could. They believed that if they could spread this information to as many people as possible, the information would be stored within the cells of the human bodies. Then it would never be forgotten.

They also began to store information in crystals. These crystals were taken deep within the Earth to be stored and preserved. These ancient Lemurians also began to create detailed maps of the underground tunnels that existed between power points on your planet. They also took the time to prepare their plans. They knew that they would receive a sign telling them it was time to go underground before the floods came. So they prepared themselves for these several thousand years to be the sacred keepers of the records of Earth. They knew it was very important that the information they held be saved for when the waters receded, otherwise the entire history of Earth and the sacred teachings of the Lemurians would have been lost forever.

These holy people received their signs and began going underground. This occurred approximately one year before the flood. While underground, they learned to live there and use the underground environment for their sustenance. They built very supportive and loving communities underground. During that year, they did the final work involved in preserving some of the knowledge that they knew needed to be preserved.

Then the flood came. All these people who were underground were safe from the waters, even though many, many people on the surface of the Earth perished. When the waters receded, the people emerged from underground. The land they once knew was now very different. This emergence from the Earth is the point at which the Native Americans' creation history begins. In a very literal sense, they did emerge from the Earth. Most of the native peoples have lost the exact literal memory of this emergence, but within the highest ranks of the shamans, this knowledge is still passed on.

Now, we tell this story from the point of view of the Native Americans, but they were not the only people who went underground. The holy people all around this planet went underground. For instance, the Aborigines in Australia and those who were later to become the Druids in England were all preserving their knowledge underground as well. The Druids were preserving the ancient Atlantean information, as were the Egyptians. But the native peoples of the Pacific area, including Asia, were preserving the Lemurian information. These native peoples, even today, hold within themselves this sacred knowledge. Some of it is conscious but most of it lies in the subconscious. The Ainu of Japan are one of the tribes that preserved some of the knowledge. There was a great cooperation among all of these peoples on Earth to make sure that the sacred teachings were never lost.
The Ancient Knowledge - Is Rising to Consciousness
The prophets also knew that when the new time came, after the flood, mankind would move away from the sacred teachings. The prophets knew that there would be a very long period of time during which the teachings would have to be kept hidden. They knew that one day that cycle would end and the teachings would once again emerge from each and every person.

That is what is happening now for all of you. You are drawn to visit places like the Native American sacred spots or Peru or Egypt because you are feeling this ancient knowledge beginning to rise to the surface within you, and you seek to find a vehicle through which that memory can be activated.

As the memory is activated in each of you, it will not necessarily take the form of information. Instead, it will simply take the form of your own spiritual and inner wisdom. The ancients never had religion and never felt the need to make someone else believe the way they did. That pattern happened only after the flood. The ancients all had an inner wisdom and an inner spirituality that was never discussed or argued about. Even though everyone is unique and has his or her own spiritual beliefs, ultimately those beliefs all are the same idea on the most basic level.

Those basic beliefs are the belief in a higher power, love and respect for each other and love and respect for the Earth. That is the very basic foundation of spirituality. That was the spirituality of the ancients, and that is the spirituality that is awakening within you. It doesn't matter whether you are Buddhist, Shinto or Christian. All that matters is that basic foundation of spirituality. Belief in a higher power, love and respect for each other and love and respect for the Earth. It is really that simple. As you travel to these hallowed spots and you get back in touch with the Earth, that's how the spirituality gets awakened within you.

Do not underestimate the power of the experiences you have while you are on this trail. They awaken within you something that was lying asleep for quite a long time. Reincarnationally, you are those ancient Lemurians. You are fulfilling your agreements by being here now and helping in the awakening. You all carry those memories within you. Honor that and trust that you do have them within you.

The question that has been asked of us so many times is, What's going to happen now? Is there going to be another cataclysm like the flood? How is this new awareness going to be activated on Earth? You are all working very hard on an energetic level so that you will not bring about another cataclysm. We do not perceive that you are going to experience another flood or destructive earthquake.

This time the change is going to happen within you. You are going to experience, in a sense, your own personal internal earthquake, your own crumbling of belief systems that no longer serve you. So in a sense, there is going to be destruction and the ending of a cycle but it's not going to take place around you in the physical world; it's going to take place in an even more powerful place - within you. So do not fear if old things you carry begin falling away. Do not fear if old relationships can no longer be the same. Most of all, do not fear exploring the unknown, for the deeper you go within, the more profoundly you are going to experience this. Know that all that happens to you, even the things that may be disturbing, is part of your own personal release of the old. As you are releasing the old, you will be exposed to new ideas. They may feel strange or foreign to you, but just keep yourself open and allow whatever is there to come to you before you assume that it is not for you. Stay open and explore.

During this tour, the ancient energies that you are exposed to are going to accelerate this process even more, for it is time now for the awakening to happen. You have all chosen to be the pioneers who help to lead the planet in this age.

There is a very powerful site in Santa Fe called Bandolier. To describe what the energy is like there is very difficult, so please bear with us. Bandolier is one of the places on Earth that integrates the star energy and the ancient Earth energy, so when you visit there, you may feel strong ET energy, but at the same time you may feel the presence of the Earth Mother very strongly too. It is very important that on each planet there be sacred spots that integrate both the star and the planet energy. Bandolier is one such place. There are many. For instance in Japan you have Mount Kurama. So as you are walking through Bandolier, feel your feet planted firmly on the ground and at the same time feel your star connection.

One of the themes of your time in Sedona has been grounding. You allowed yourself to take a very difficult hike. You succeeded because you allowed the Earth to support you. You became one with the Earth. From the Earth you drew strength, and it is the strength that is now going to help you as you go to the second part of the tour. The energy of Santa Fe is going to be different but it is very closely connected to what you experienced this morning. When the tour is over you will see how they fit together.

We would like to take some time to answer your questions, but first we would simply like to congratulate all of you on the great acceleration you have all experienced in the past few days. So many things have moved within you. You cannot really understand how much has occurred within you with your mind, but you will notice, when you go back to your normal life in Japan, that things have changed.

Earlier, I felt that I knew exactly when all the people were going to leave the place we were exploring.

That experience, especially with the crowds, was showing you what it's like to be one with the Earth. You knew when the crowd was going to disappear because you could sense the energy of the Earth. You were a part of the environment, and that is exactly what the ancients experienced.

The Native Americans do something called the Rain Dance. Today much of the significance of that ceremony has been lost; today the belief is that the dance makes it rain. However, in the ancient days, the Rain Dance was very much like what you experienced with the crowds. The Native Americans would do a Rain Dance not because they wanted it to rain, but because they could sense the energy of the environment and they were moved to become part of the environment and celebrate the rain. There is a subtle difference. We hope we have explained it. You experienced that feeling of being one with the Earth. It was very important to bring up that ancient knowledge.

What is the significance of the Snake People?

The Snake People are very, very ancient. They existed approximately 5,000 to 6,000 years ago. They were descendants of the Lemurians, in particular, descendants of the original record-keepers of Lemuria. The snake, in terms of symbology, has always been used on Earth to mean wisdom, so you find many cultures around Earth in which the snake, as a symbol, plays a very important role.

Now today, you were taken to a place called Montezuma's Well. The myth is that that was one of the emergence points of the ancient Lemurian/Native American. Sedona is one of the places that was first inhabited by the people who were keeping the records. After they emerged, their civilization lived mostly high in the cliffs. At that time Sedona was a chain of islands, so they had to live on higher ground. This original group that came from beneath the Earth lived here and, of course, procreated, so there were many generations here. The Snake People are descendants of those original ones from beneath the Earth.

Now you've all seen the large amount of quartz crystal that is in the red rock, and you all know that quartz crystal can hold information and knowledge. Sedona was chosen as an emergence point because of all the quartz crystal in the area. It would be very easy to use all the quartz crystal in the rock to hold the knowledge of Lemuria, so the Snake People living in this area were committed to programming that knowledge into the rocks. This is why so many people are now drawn to Sedona. Anyone who has a Lemurian connection will naturally be drawn here. All of you, at one time or another, belonged to the Snake People tribe.

Are there any ruins of Lemurian temples in the Sedona area?

There are some physical remains of those temples but they are so eroded now that you really couldn't recognize them as remains of a temple. However, energetically those temples still exist. They can only be accessed on the inner planes through your dream state or through your meditations, but they are still very active. That's another reason why people feel so drawn to come to Sedona. They have traveled here in other states of consciousness so even though their physical bodies haven't been here, they feel familiar with it. There are many Lemurian temples here interdimensionally.

Is there any connection between those who survived the Great Flood and extraterrestrials?

What a wonderful and creative question. No one has ever asked this before, and it is one of the particular areas of interest for us. We assume that a good number of you have read The Prism of Lyra, but we will attempt to keep it very simple in case you haven't.

The people who went underground during the flood could be associated with what we call the Sirians or the Sirian energy. Their symbol was the snake. They were the keepers of knowledge throughout. As to whether there were people who survived the flood on the surface, the answer is yes. You have a Biblical story about a man named Noah who built an ark. That story is very true with one exception. There was not just one Noah but many people around the planet who built arks or boats to survive the flood. So when the flood finally receded, there were those who had gone underground and there were those who had stayed aboveground. And yet there was contact.

Among those who stayed aboveground, there were two factions. There was one faction that we would say was oriented toward the energy from Sirius. Those people had a love for mankind and a desire for peace and knowledge. But there was another faction that was more aligned with what we would call the Lyran influence. They were the ones who wanted power. Some of those people were the ones in powerful positions in Atlantis. Now we're talking about those who stayed aboveground. For the most part, those who went underground were all of one orientation.
Native Americans Have Remained Separate to Preserve the Knowledge
All through history, you have had conflict between the knowledge-keepers and those hungry for power. That still happens today. So as soon as the floods receded, the conflicts started again. That is why the people who are now considered Native American did not integrate themselves with the rest of the world. They kept themselves separate in order to assure that the knowledge would be preserved; they allowed the power struggle to continue while they simply sat back and tried to preserve the knowledge. You can see that is happening now. But the cycle is finishing, because so many of you now are beginning to realize how important that spiritual knowledge is. As more and more of you begin a spiritual search, those in power will have to change their ways because they won't be able to manipulate people anymore.

So your individual search for your own spiritual truth eventually affects the entire planet. This time on your planet that you are calling a new age is the completion of many thousands of years of conflict. We perceive that the conflict will be healed.

How long did people live underground? How long were their lives?

When the flood receded, about half of those who were underground emerged. Half stayed underground because they were not quite sure it was safe to emerge. Those who emerged saw that conflict was already beginning on the surface once again, so they retreated and kept to themselves. They refused to become part of that conflict. That's why today there is such a division between Western society and the native peoples. The Native Americans do not want to play the game of conflict.

The people who stayed underground remained there for several more generations. At one point, half of the half emerged, but there was still a group who remained underground. They are still there. They are the people you call the Inner Earth people. They have evolved quite rapidly over the past several thousand years. They have built their own society totally independent of yours, and in a sense they have mutated to allow themselves to adapt to life below the surface. They do not want to play the game of conflict either. Their lives are quite long, a life span averaging approximately 600 to 800 years. They do not procreate at the rate you do so there is no population problem.

In terms of the longevity of people during the period of the flood, their life span was longer than yours. It really depended upon the genetic characteristics of the individual. If a person had a genetic makeup based on a strong extraterrestrial background, he had a longer life span. This information is spoken about very clearly in the Bible. It is given that the ages of certain Biblical figures are well over 100 years, like Moses. Some are given quite long lifetimes. Those records are out there.

Over time, as you all have evolved away from being a part of the Earth, your life spans have gotten shorter. This is because when you are one with the Earth, you channel the life force of the Earth and it rejuvenates you. But when you cut yourself off from your life force, you deteriorate faster. This is why Native Americans have such long life spans and yogis who live up in the Himalayas do, too. They have, as much as they could, kept their connections with Earth. Your life span will grow longer the more you reconnect with the Earth. As your consciousness changes, your life span will grow.
Meditation
Now allow yourself to sit comfortably and close your eyes. Take three deep breaths. We're going to take you through the chakras very quickly.

Imagine a red ball of energy at the base of your spine and let it begin to spin.

Imagine an orange ball of energy below your navel and allow that to begin to spin.

Imagine a yellow ball of energy at your solar plexus and allow that to begin to spin.

Imagine a green ball of energy at your heart and allow that to begin to spin.

Imagine a blue ball of energy at your throat and allow that to begin to spin.

Imagine an indigo ball of energy at your third eye and allow that to begin to spin.

Imagine a violet ball of energy at the top of your head and allow that to begin to spin.

In your mind's eye now look down at your feet. Imagine that you are wearing leather moccasins. You are walking along a dusty path. Imagine the sound of your feet as you walk along the path. Become aware that you are walking in single file as a group. You step as one. The steps are the beat of the heart of the Earth.

Now I'm going to help you access your group energy, for your group has a very powerful connection. In the next few days you will learn how to access the power of these energies. For now, feel as if there is a golden thread that is running through each of you around this circle and connecting you together. It is as if we breathe as one. It is as if your hearts beat as one. There is strong trust among all of you.

This night, we're all going to meet in the dream state. In the dream state, you are going to begin activating the memory of your group connection. When you awaken tomorrow morning, the energy will be different. You will perceive your connections as stronger. You will feel a new and different powerful energy. Allow yourself to take three deep breaths. Continue to feel that golden thread that runs through all of you and that connects you to God. When you go to sleep tonight, that thread will become even more powerful.

Now slowly bring your consciousness back to the room. When you feel ready you may open your eyes. Your energy is accelerating. You are changing and growing so very fast we hardly recognize you. We look forward to seeing you again. Much love and good dreams this evening."

Note: This session appeared in the September 1993 issue of the Sedona Journal of Emergence.

© 1994 by Royal Priest Research, All Rights Reserved. This manuscript may be copied for private distribution, but may not be sold.

For more information on available tapes, transcripts, books, and videos, contact Lyssa Royal.

Love is the answer...

http://www.think-aboutit.com/atlantis/lemu..._reflection.htm

"Buildings plated with pure gold.....so much they used it to cover pavements".........could you imagine the consequences of discovering such a city beneath the Atlantic? Half the population of the planet would be drowning themselves trying to get at it.

Thanks for that article again. I stopped half way through. Interesting stuff.

Where are all these archelogical finds now and where are all the mystical stones spheres and flashing eyes inscriptions etc etc.
If they lived to be hundreds of years old they would have had to manage the population very carefully or there must have been a hell of a lot of them.
what do they say about that.

Isn't interesting how that is how the Bible saw as heaven.....

In Revelation 21, the apostle John wrote about his miraculous vision of heaven, and described it as being a city of "pure gold" (21:18).

4 It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed—on the east three gates, on the north three gates, on the south three gates, and on the west three gates. And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.


The great high wall indicates that it is a secure place, with angels at the gates. But later we learn that the gates are always open for the nations to come in.

“on the gates (were) the names of the twelve tribes� Israel is the way in to the kingdom of God. The world has been blessed through Abraham's offspring; salvation is of the Jews.

The foundations of the kingdom of God are the apostles (see Ephesians 2). The kingdom of God is built through the preaching of the gospel, a message which was taught and written down for all time by the apostles. The church is built on their testimony about Jesus.

They are the apostles of the Lamb—his servants and the means through which his message is proclaimed in the world.

21:15–17 And the one who spoke with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city and its gates and walls. The city lies foursquare; its length the same as its width. And he measured the city with his rod, 12,000 stadia. Its length and width and height are equal. He also measured its wall, 144 cubits by human measurement, which is also an angel's measurement.

Length, width and height are equal� Two options as to what this means:

1. If the height refers to the height of the wall around the city, the 144 cubits (64.8m) must refer to the thickness of the wall. The city would then look like a massive golden cube.
2. Alternatively, the height may refer to the height of the tallest building(s) in which case the wall is probably 144 cubits high. This would look more attractive than an enormous cube but that's irrelevant since this is all picture language.

The measurements are multiples of 12—remember there were also 12 gates with the names of the 12 tribes and the foundation was the 12 apostles. 12 may indicate completeness or perfection.

21:18–20 The wall was built of jasper, while the city was pure gold, clear as glass. The foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with every kind of jewel. The first was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald, the fifth onyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, the twelfth amethyst.


The city (the church) is extraordinarily beautiful.

The 12 precious stones remind us of the 12 precious stones in the breastplate of judgment of the high priest where they symbolised the 12 tribes of Israel (Exodus 28:15ff).


http://hippocampusextensions.com/archives/...45.php?page=all



I think we have messed it all up!!!!

We've gone decimal... and God's heaven... and all the keys to it relate to multiples of 12... the old dozen... Hmmm ! we still buy eggs by the dozen and wine and bread rolls... that's biblical... but the Euro takeover... the decimal system.. is twisting our realitiy..mathematically etc to????????

does that mean we will miss the boat... or do we need to go back to the simpler times when everything was done in the measure of 12's???

http://forums.atlantisrising.com/cgi-bin/u...c;f=15;t=000387

cool.gif ...I found this interesting....

TOTH
Reference: Evidence for the Ancestors of the Guanches as Founders of Predynastic Egypt ,JONAH G. LISSNER

"The Proto-Guanche Historical Origins of the Egyptian God Thoth

While the Guanche were known to have worshipped the god of the sun, and of higher thought, Men-cey, (note that the first Egyptian pharaohs called themselves Men-es) or the revelation of god through the sun, it is unknown what the other gods, if any, of their pantheons were. Yet throughout the ancient Egyptian writings of the God-Kings before the Pharaohs, are references to men of other lands who became gods of wisdom before migrating to lower Egypt. One of them was Thoth, traditionally designated by historians and Egyptologists as the Egyptian God of Writing and Wisdom. Leonard states:

Thoth was born in a distant country to the west which was across a body of water. Its main city was by the sea (Plato's metropolis). The land possessed volcanoes and, like Atlantis, had a low mountain or large hill in the center. This land is sometimes referred to as the Isle of Flame. (Book of the Dead, Hymn of Rameses IV and Pyramid Texts)

A catastrophe occurred which darkened the sun and disturbed the gods, but Thoth led them across the sea to an eastern country [Egypt]. Thoth is depicted as the "controller of the Flood," (Leyden Papyrus) and the Theban Recension includes the Island of Flame in the Flood story. (Papyrus of Ani, Chap. CLXXV)

In Chapter L***V of the Book of the Dead, Thoth rules the "Western Domain," and by the end of the New Kingdom he is called "Lord of the West". (Seth, 1912) Thoth is depicted standing in sht htp [the "field of peace" known to the Greeks as the Elysian Fields], holding his writing quill and palette. The question is pertinent: Was Thoth an Atlantean god-king? [R. Cedric Leonard, http://www.atlantisquest.com/Hiero.html]

The sacred island of the Guanches, the Gran Canaria, is a great mountain, white peaked, with very little arable land surrounding it as it juts forth from the Atlantic, similar to the description of the Isle of Rame, indicating an interesting similarity in the volcanic homeland of Thoth It may not be possible to prove that Thoth was an Atlantean God-King, but there are indications that the isles of the West were the Canary Islands, and that proto-Guanches of a more advanced state did explore outside of their archipelago with their astronomical, navigational and cultural knowledge and achievements of the late neolithic era."

CAUCASIANS AND FLYING CANOES??
Proto-Guanche Explorations to the New World

The asiatic Indians of Central and South America, traditionally referred to as the indigenous peoples of the New World, although increasing evidence is pointing to a multi-cultural pre-Columbian New World of varying ethnic Asiatic groups as well as Caucasians and proto-humanoid beings of more archaic age, referred to the Columbians as quetzalcoatl, referring to the plumed serpent-god of the heavens which would return in the form of a white, bearded man in the year 1519 CE (by the calendar of the Europeans of the time); this date was venerated by the Aztecs in Tenochtitlan as an eschatological date and preparations were made by the court astrologers of the palace of Montezuma for their return. Other tribes of the New World in both Central and South America also venerated these wise, bearded white men for their previous incarnations and flying canoes which had brought culture, peace and prosperity to these regions in the remote past.

Yet it is possible that the voyage of Columbus was pre-dated by other Europeans explorers; scholars have made the speculation and evidence for Leif Ericcson and the Nose colonies of Vinland circa 1200 CE; the Welsh King Madoc circa 1200 or 500 CE depending on the archaeological data interpretation; the Irish Monk Brendan circa 500 CE; and perhaps earlier Irish, Basque, Roman, Cartaginian, Celtic and Phonecian-Israelite voyages to the New World, thereby establishing a permanent and continuous East to West cultural drive and expanding many historical horizons of the abilities of the ancient ancestors of modern Western civilization.


QUETZALCOATL...NORDIC FEATURES AND A BEARD

According to the Aztec and Olmec (Central American Amerind) legends, their god, Quetzalcoatl, had Nordic features (eyes and hair color) and a beard. This god came from over the sea and taught the Amerinds how to raise corn and build structures. [Kemp, Guanche Type Pyramids Found In Mexico, http://www.white- history.com/hwr6a.htm]

There is further archaeological evidence that the ancient cultures of the Mesoamerican New World, predating the Aztecs, Mayas and perhaps the Olmecs (who themselves had rather Semitic-appearing features including beards, long noses and black hair).

As the proto-Guanche were noted seafarers in classical and ancient times; it is possible that the tall, golden-haired and fair-skinned peoples called the quetzalcoatl, or the culture-bringers of the asiatic Indians of Meso- and South America, were indeed proto-Guanches or Egyptians working with Guanches, or Egyptians who were related the the post-Cro-Magnon Proto-Guanches that traveled from the Canaries Islands as a stopover point to the New World and the sailing currents of the Gulf Stream from the southwest coast of Spain and modern-day Cadíz (ancient Ibero-Phonecian name Gades, or That Way) along the Atlantics Canaries Stream, to the Caribbean and what is now modern-day Northern Brazil."

http://www.atlantissource.com/traditions/atlas.htm


" Give words from Nahuatl dictionary.

Matlock, in his defence of the Yucatan Straits as the site of Atlantis, cites place names as one of his compelling proofs. He points to:

Atlán, Autlán, Mazatlán, Cihuatlán, Cacatlán, Tecaltitlán, Tihuatlán, Atitlán, Zapotlán, Minititlán, Ocotlán, Miahuatlán, Tecaltitlán, Tepatitlán, Tihuatlán, Texiutlán, and the like.

Notice that the Nahuatl Tlán root of these place names is exactly like the Tlan in "Atlantis."

Atlas - or his substitute - is also encountered in diverse places performing his function of holding up the world. Quetzalcoatl is shown in paintings and in an engraving holding up the world.

The Basque people living in the Pyrenees between Spain and France are a unique people. The Romans called them Vascones. The name "Basque" was used by the French and English. The Basque people themselves say they came from Atlaintika, a powerful maritime nation that sank into the Atlantic Ocean ofter a terrible cataclysm and from which a few survivors reached the Bay of Biscay and the Pyrenees mountains."

Be honest here: with all those Nahuatl words, what you have here is one common root, Tlan, that sounds a bit like Atlantis. To suggest all those words are borders on deliberate false presentation. Furthermore, if you're trying to whip out actual Historical Linguistic Reconstruction, you'd need more words from the mother/sister tongues preserved somewhere, in some fashion. If you don't, you have to words that coincidentally sound alike, which happens from time to time.

And do you have a source for that quote about Basques being from Atlantis? From what I can tell, it can't be quite proved that the Roman Vascones and the Basques are the same people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Basque_people), let alone they go around claiming to be from Atlantis.
You might want to check out this page, too: http://www.basqueclubs.com/Pages/a-basque.htm

--Jaylemurph

we rise again in the hearts of our children, we rise again .... the rankin family sings it better then i can.

and you know some times that sparke gets all fired up with a good song .

thank you ,your good with the word then i am .

i thinks i'm moore hands on.

ANOTHER pointless fiction-piled-upon-fiction thread? Why????

And M.A.D., what is it with you????

emma, just a question...could it be possible to post at least one friendly post? I tried to find one in yur posts, but I didn't find a single one. are u frustrated about something or so? u don't believe in ANY thread here on the forum, so what are u here for anyway? flaming people?

that's big talk for a genocidal terrorist!

Well, ok, my bad. Anyway the threads I don't believe don't believe in take up so much of my time I don't get to post in the ones I DO believe in.

I totally agree...

why is the question i'am asking my self you would post ,by the sound of others it is you that is pointless.

well this is me i am who i am ,open your eyes and ears and see the truth that is.

when you see like a child you will see,when you hear like a child you will hear.

the it that is me is of one ,my mother gives a strong foundation and my father lights the path for me to see.

me being a son to my father its up to me to be christ-like,in order to return to the one in truth.

open your mind.

pax unum i thought you had nothing to say about me is this your way of wanting to know.

or is it just your blind ignorants ,that is talking.

i,am not one for games when it comes to the truth.

one should not play with god when one does not know god.

because in the end you just get burnt.

I'm quite with Emma. One person piling post after post after post of material doesn't make it seem more credible. Often, it's the reverse, especially when it's not well-researched.

--Jaylemurph

when the snow leaves and the ground is cleare .

the truth i will show ,the pics i've all ready showed have been bruied in the pages of these discussion forums.

i looked at it this way, if out of the shadows he will come quikly.

then into the shadows i went to see where he cometh from and i found a man in heaven which we all know and just look up in the stars and you will see .

but i also found the man on earth that gives that reflextion in heaven.

but there is a third that those two are a refextion of and that is god our father for he made me and you in his image.

atlantis popped up along the way.

were i see cape breton island from the geoligy shows it is the cap stone of a once great mt and the highland of the island is the very top,

and my families property is on the highest most western part .

it comes down to location,location,location and i gots the location but knowone can see and thats my delema.

or their tellin me they can't its just silents or a argument that i get and its a shame i look for the truth and what i find knowone wants,go figure.

If there was an Atlantis, I doubt it has superior alien-like technology. I would imagine it to be more like a Rome.

I don't understand. Why do you even read the threads about things you don't believe in if you already know you don't believe in them? I find that it's extremely annoying and counter productive when people flame post. The only posts I've ever seen from you are flame posts. At the same time, you are totally entitled to your opinion. If you think something is bogus, that's totally kewl. Sometimes, you could just keep it to yourself if it isn't going to help anything in the topic. I think a lot of people on this board are just interested in posting their own opinions instead of genuinely discussing something in a thread. I am not innocent of posting my own opinions, but I do try my hardest to add to a thread in an intellectual way instead of stuff like, "Your a total moron for believing any of this." (that's of course a gross generalization, but you get my point.)

I've read a lot about this topic. I find it very difficult to believe any of this. Especially the very first post. For me, I would love to think that some of this is true. There are certain connections between cultures I cannot ignore. Some of those were mentioned in the article. But where is the specific machinery explanations, and how they put memories into crystals substantiated? How the heck did anyone even get that info in the first place? And I really really debate the line about multiple sources describing Atlantis. That is simply not true. Plato is the only author to talk about Atlantis exclusively, all the others were just talking about his works weren't they?

(From Wikipedia) "Other than Plato's Timaeus and Critias there is no primary ancient account of Atlantis, which means every other account on Atlantis relies on Plato in one way or another. To this day, no proof for a non-Platonic tradition of Atlantis has been found. However, the Greek logographer Hellanicus of Lesbos wrote a work (now lost), named Atlantis (or Atlantias), about the daughters of the titan Atlas (not the Atlas mentioned by Plato).[1] However, it is unlikely that this work was an inspiration to Plato, since he named Atlantis after the Atlantic Ocean (ancient Greek: Ἀτλαντὶς θάλασσα, "Sea of Atlas"), which already had this name in the time of Herodotus.[2]"

Crystal sage has a nack for posting these kinds of things. I personally find nothing wrong with it. I really enjoyed reading this actually. And I found the tour in Arizona transcription to be quite fascinating. I didn't know tours like that existed. And it sparked my interest because my fiancee was born quite near there, I wonder if his parents did that on purpose. Anyways... Emma, I think you need to try to not flame all the time. Crystal, keep posting these kewl sites you are finding!

http://www.halexandria.org/dward192.htm

"Meanwhile, Noah did quite well for himself in terms of longevity (in line with all of his previous generations), while Shem didn’t quite make it to the end of “middle age� (i.e. less than 2/3rds of Noah). The next three generations averaged 446 years (about half of the Adam to Noah clan). And then yet another drop in the following six generations to an average of 206 years!

This led to the weird situation (there’s no other name for it), whereby Noah’s son, Shem, outlived all but one member of the next eight generations! Shem and the three generations behind him, far outlived the following five generations. After growing up with ancestors from ten generations still hanging around, Abraham must have felt incredibly unlucky, when he died prior to his great, great, great, great grandfather, his great, great, great, great, great grandfather, and his great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather!

After Abraham, everything went even further downhill, i.e. at the time of their death:

Isaac............................... was 180

Jacob............................. was 147

Job................................. was 140

Levi................................. was 137

Kohath............................ was 133

Amaram.......................... was 137

Moses............................. was 120

Joshua............................ was 110

Eli.................................... was 98

David............................... was 70


http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/adamsage.html

"dam, the first man, could have lived forever (Genesis 3:22). But he sinned by disobeying God and brought death upon himself and all humankind.

However, God created Adam perfect, so Adam didn't have the harmful health problems we have today (mutant genes, illnesses, and so on).

In fact, all the early people lived long lives, with Methuselah living even longer than Adam (969 years).

Life spans gradually decreased as illnesses and mutations accumulated, until they reached today's average of about 70 years.

Another reason for such good health at that time may have been that the whole world's temperature seems to have been sub-tropical to temperate. There is evidence of this because even under the ice in Antarctica and Alaska lush forests and warm-climate trees are known to have once grown.

Adam's 930 years were real years, not just months as some suggest. If they were months, then Mahalaleel, who in Genesis 5:15 had his first son at 65 years, and Enoch, who became the father of Methuselah also at 65 years (Genesis 5:21), would have been fathers when they were only five years old!"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/1256894.stm

The Welsh and Irish Celts have been found to be the genetic blood-brothers of Basques, scientists have revealed.

The research adds to previous studies which have suggested a possible link between the Celts and Basques, dating back tens of thousands of years.


http://www.atlantisquest.com/Linguistics.html

Among the modern Berbers in northwest Africa, the lightest skin pigmentation recorded is that of the Rifians, the most European-looking Berbers. Ten percent have light brown or blond hair. The blonds tend to be golden, or reddish; only rarely ash blond. (Coon, 1965) Concerning "blondism" among the Tuaregs and Berbers, Dr. Jean Hiernaux, Director of Research at the National Centre for Scientific Research in Paris, writes:

"The relatively high incidence of blondism in North Africa has raised much speculation. Has it evolved locally, or does it represent an admixture of European elements from an area where blondism has a high incidence? Both views are tenable." (Hiernaux, 1975)



"But what about the little-known Iberian language (generally believed to be related to the Berber language of North Africa)? The defunct Iberian language is known to us only through inscriptions (the Iberian script is mainly syllabic, but also partly alphabetic). It was once spoken throughout the entire Iberian peninsula, and through Iberian language specialist William J. Entwhistle (1936) we learn that this language is also related to the modern Basque language.

The famous German philologist Wilhelm von Humboldt was convinced of the existence of a single great Iberian people in ancient times, speaking a distinct non-European language of their own. He proposed that these ancient Iberian people once extended through southern France into Brittany, and on into the British Isles--he even included the Mediterranean islands of Sicily, Sardinia and Corsica. Humboldt also contended that the Basques of modern times are remnants of that "once wide-spread Atlantic seaboard population" (von Humboldt, 1961). "

http://www.science-frontiers.com/cat-arch.htm




http://www.burlingtonnews.net/redhairedrace.html

ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE
In the Takla Makan Desert in central Asia, mummies of non-Asian peoples were found. The mummies are dated to be 3,800 years old.

Builders along the Silk Road were know as the Tocharians 2,000 years ago. Were they related to the Mummy People?

A search of a museum reveals a young woman with an overbite, which is European in nature, and a elderly man with reddish hair. They also find woolen textiles woven into twill and tartan patterns in blue, white, and red. Similar to the Celtic tartans from Northwest Europe. Scientific reconstruction of the heads of the mummies produces a face that strongly resembles ancient Celts and Saxons.
The mummy people used the wheel long before it was known in China, and may have played a role in introducing it to Chinese civilization.
There are 3,000-year-old rock engravings similar to ones in Bulgaria and the Ukraine. The characters have long noses, long faces and round eyes. According to the ancient Chinese, the European nomads had red hair, bluish-green eyes and had long noses.


"MYTHOLOGICAL AND LEGENDS

and the stories of the female Basque God Mari and the Gaelic Irish tales of the Tuatha da Danann.

The Tuatha tales describe powerful gods with orange or blonde hair and other unusual attributes. *See Odin

Mari - the neolithic Goddess of Old Europe and the primary deity in Basque mythology - has many manifestations, including "as a tree that looks like a woman or a tree emitting flames", "a white cloud or rainbow, or a ball of fire in the air", a "sickle of fire, as which she appears crossing the sky" and "seen enveloped in fire, lying down horizontally, moving through the air".

The records from ancient Ireland describe a whole series of invasions. The "Lebor Gabala Erren" ("The Book of the Taking of Ireland" or the "Book of Invasions") , compiled during the 12th century A.D. describes the coming of the mysterious Tuatha de' Danann or Tribe of Danu. They were apparently tall, blond or red-haired strangers, "expert in the arts of pagan cunning", who supposedly interbred with the locals, while teaching them many kinds of useful skills. *See Tribe of Dan ...




note this could be the same Mari that is mentioned in the Syrian tablets.....of http://www.atlastours.net/syria/mari.html


http://www.syriagate.com/Syria/about/cities/Idlib/ebla.htm

http://www.syriagate.com/Syria/about/citie..._Ezzor/mari.htm

http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/hwr8d.htm

Part Five: The Nubians and the Fall of White Egypt

SEA PEOPLES

From the time of Tutankhamen onwards, the final decline of Egypt was irreversible. Later kings tried to reverse the trend - sometimes they succeeded, temporarily, in rolling back the waves of conquest and counter conquest in Palestine and Syria, and at one time a pharaoh did manage to take a Hittite princess as a bride.

But there were fresh enemies: Egypt was now attacked by new Indo-European invaders emerging from the Aegean, the so-called Sea People. As their name implied, they arrived by boat and raided Egyptian settlements, leaving again by the means that they arrived. These Sea Peoples were mainly comprised of Philistines from Asia Minor and Aecheans from mainland Greece.

Egyptian illustrations of the time show prisoners being taken with light hair and light eyes - Sea People raiders unfortunate enough to fall into captivity in Egypt, where they could expect no mercy.

THE DISAPPEARANCE OF THE WHITE EGYPTIANS

Ever since the time of the Hyksos invasion and the fall of the Second Kingdom, the demographic shift amongst the Egyptian population had been against the original Whites. Slowly at first, but then speeding up, non-Whites or mixed racial types began to make up more and more of that country's population - drawn in as slaves, laborers, immigrants or invaders.

These other racial types were of two sorts: Semites (whom the Egyptians called "Sand Dwellers") and Blacks, from region of Nubia in the far south (present day Sudan). A review of Egypt's relations with Nubia is therefore crucial to understanding what happened to the White Egyptians, and why they vanished.

Again, if this is a response to some of the questions I asked, I'll need a few hints about how to interpret them.

I don't doubt the Celts and Basques could be related, and that they might have been from some pan-Iberian ancestors. It's the "the Basques say they came from Atlantis" that's the kicker. And you seem to be confusing genetics and languages in some sense.

--Jaylemurph

What I gather is that during and or after the times of the great floods... that the dominant civilizations of the time...(I think there was more than one advanced nation... as trade... travel... and like the missionaries of our days.. they would have wanted to