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jaylemurph
QUOTE (rancour @ Mar 27 2008, 09:32 PM) *
i came up in a conclusion that:

1 atlantis sank at the bermuda triangle.

2 extra terrestrial activities are occurring in the bermuda

3 atlantis is home of aliens here or maybe their headquarters here on earth

4 the advance civilization of the people of atlantis is because of the help of aliens

5 many disappearance occur in the bermuda because of they were kidnapped by ET and taken them as experimant materials


Oh, I hardly think *you* came up with these conclusions. Charles Berlitz beat you to the punch 30 years or more ago.

--Jaylemurph
rancour
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Mar 28 2008, 10:38 AM) *
Oh, I hardly think *you* came up with these conclusions. Charles Berlitz beat you to the punch 30 years or more ago.

--Jaylemurph



no, really... i came up with these conclusions just based on my previous knowledge about the BERMUDA TRIANGLE..

try to watch 'secrets of the bermuda triangle' if i'm not mistaken...

in fact i dont even know "Charles Berlits''

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The Puzzler
QUOTE (rancour @ Mar 28 2008, 12:37 PM) *
was there really an government agency named "Department of Interplanetary Affairs"

i think there's none

so for me... it's also bogus thumbsup.gif

Actually there was a real Department of Interplanetary Affairs in the 1970's, but I'm not sure if it's still running. It's not bogus, it really existed, try and Google it for more info.

jaylemurph
QUOTE (rancour @ Mar 27 2008, 09:42 PM) *
no, really... i came up with these conclusions just based on my previous knowledge about the BERMUDA TRIANGLE..

try to watch 'secrets of the bermuda triangle' if i'm not mistaken...

in fact i dont even know "Charles Berlits''

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Please, don't get me wrong, rancour: I don't doubt for a minute you've researched the issue in detail, have a thorough knowledge of the subject, and have serious thoughts on the subject; I spoke clumsily. I should have said that others doing similar thinking in the past have reached similar conclusions. If you haven't read it, then I think you'd very much enjoy enjoy Berlitz' book called The Bermuda Triangle.

But, umm, it's worth pointing out that some (cynics might say a great deal) of the information present in the book is out of date or manipulated grossly out of context. I have to say that, or the history gods will come and smite me. Smite me, I tell you, with smotes.

--Jaylemurph

The Puzzler
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Mar 28 2008, 01:40 PM) *
Smite me, I tell you, with smotes.

--Jaylemurph

That's funny....you gave me my first chuckle of the day J.
rancour
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Mar 28 2008, 11:40 AM) *
Please, don't get me wrong, rancour: I don't doubt for a minute you've researched the issue in detail, have a thorough knowledge of the subject, and have serious thoughts on the subject; I spoke clumsily. I should have said that others doing similar thinking in the past have reached similar conclusions. If you haven't read it, then I think you'd very much enjoy enjoy Berlitz' book called The Bermuda Triangle.

But, umm, it's worth pointing out that some (cynics might say a great deal) of the information present in the book is out of date or manipulated grossly out of context. I have to say that, or the history gods will come and smite me. Smite me, I tell you, with smotes.

--Jaylemurph


i'm sorry too. i just relied on my previous knowledge, i havent read the book of BERLITZ yet, but maybe one day, god willing, i will be able to read it
jaylemurph
QUOTE (weareallsuckers @ Mar 27 2008, 11:04 PM) *
That's funny....you gave me my first chuckle of the day J.


I'm doing a favor for a friend and am one of the chorus in his production of A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum: I'm full of classic, corn-fed, late 50s schtick.
...and the butt of a dozen pre-Stonewall gay jokes.

--Jaylemurph
crystal sage
QUOTE (weareallsuckers @ Mar , 01:17 PM)
Actually there was a real Department of Interplanetary Affairs in the 1970's, but I'm not sure if it's still running. It's not bogus, it really existed, try and Google it for more info.

There is Dr Michael Salla's Exopolitics Institute

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Dr. Michael E. Salla, is a pioneer in the development of exopolitics, the scholarly study of the political implications of the extraterrestrial presence that is not acknowledged to the general public, elected officials or the mass media. His interest in exopolitics evolved out of his investigation of the sources of international conflict and its relationship with the undisclosed extraterrestrial presence. He cites evidence of as many as sixteen different extraterrestrial races currently interacting with humanity in a variety of ways, with a number of other races simply monitoring the Earth. He is the author of Exopolitics: Political Implications of the Extraterrestrial Presence (Dandelion Books, 2004).
Dr. Salla is an internationally recognized scholar in international politics, conflict resolution and US foreign policy, and is the author/editor of an additional four books including The Hero's Journey Toward a Second American Century (Greenwood Press, 2002); Essays on Peace (Central Queensland University Press, 1995); Why the Cold War Ended (Greenwood Press, 1995); and Islamic Radicalism, Muslim Nations and the West (1993). He has also authored more than seventy articles, chapters, and book reviews on peace, ethnic conflict and conflict resolution.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=76090


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_ali..._alien_18zi.htm
mnemeion
OMG there really is a Department of Interplanetary Affairs. Although the many grammatic errors are a bit disappointing.
crystal sage
http://indigosociety.com/underwater-cities...66.html?p=64452
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This is interesting....


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More info on how the land sank into the Atlantic ocean
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This is very interesting because this is evidence that the whole surface sank to the depth of 700 meters (2,297 feet, or about a half mile down).

The area has been seismically active for thousands of years. And what we find on the ocean bottom are fractures from which the magma and volcanic ash came out. From these structures we were able to delineate a configuration of the land that sank because you can see them clearly. The land that sank is very obvious from our image of the ocean bottom. And you can see bays, like harbors, and it's all at the depths of 900 and 700 meters.

Geologically, does Dr. Iturralde-Vinent and others have any idea what happened volcanically? Was it one large eruption or series of eruptions?

Series of eruptions and as he is saying, it is still active. A series of eruptions that created major tectonic movement to such a degree that land is sinking. For example, Cuba has sank and re-emerged a couple of times! But that was long ago, geologically. Now, what happened more recently geologically is that land sank that joined to Yucatan �_ islands between Yucatan and Cuba, they sank.

Belize . Massively drilled botomless holes. To exctract molten power from deep iside the earth, which created unstable land and Atlantis eventually sank from unnatural volcanoes, drilled holes, and widespread severe environmental destruction and pollution which made the earth more unstable



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtm.../sciblue104.xml


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http://www.canoe.ca/Travel/Caribbean/Great...358686-sun.html


I'd hit the trail to see one of Andros' most unusual geologic features -- a circular "lake" called a blue hole. Gateways to networks of underground tunnels and caverns, blue holes are scattered across the Bahamas. Andros, with at least 350 of these natural wonders, takes the lead.

Powerful tides rush through some of the tunnels below them and can, on rare occasions, twist into whirlpools capable of sucking small boats underwater. This phenomenon most likely gave life to another Androsian beast, the Lusca. Half-dragon, half-octopus, it's not wise to make it angry.

Inland blue holes are typically lonely outposts surrounded by pines. These inland reservoirs -- though connected to intricate tunnels -- aren't as strongly affected by tidal surges and boat-eating whirlpools as their oceanic brethren. But no one's exactly sure what the passageways hold. Divers can't thoroughly explore them because silt tends to cloud visibility at lower depths.

These inland reservoirs are so steeped in mystery that many Bahamians won't go near them.
Mattshark
QUOTE (crystal sage @ Mar 20 2008, 10:41 AM) *

I hate happy dolphin crap like this!!!!! It is beyond a joke, it is a 2m+ predator that has been known to kill it does not want to impart wisdom with us because all they care about is fish and sex!
And no they don't like captivity.



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BlackFrost
Ancient Civilizations fascinate me... I found this interesting information

Vimanas, Ancient Flying Vehicles ~

As we search for clues to our ancient past, one that is linked to creation from an external source, we search for visitors who may have come here millennia ago, to that end. We also wonder how glyphs, found in one part of the planet, credited to a specific civilization of that region, have turned up half way around the world created in the same timeline. Did the ancients have flying ships? Did the ships belong to their gods?

In the inserts of our reality program and and all things are possible, as we await explanation of our creation and where it is all going. Today many people see UFO's of different descriptions, and most believe aliens exist and in same way interact in our program, if only for biogenetic experiments, mirroring the Nazi Program of WW II, which ended as the alien grey program began. We still search for proof and disclosure, which we sense is not far away.

In the Vedic literature of India, there are many descriptions of flying machines that are generally called Vimanas. India's national epic, The Mahabharata, is a poem of vast length and complexity. According to Dr. Vyacheslav Zaitsev: "the holy Indian Sages, the Ramayana for one, tell of "Two storied celestial chariots with many windows" "They roar like off into the sky until they appear like comets." The Mahabharata and various Sanskrit books describe at length these chariots, "powered by winged lighting...it was a ship that soared into the air, flying to both the solar and stellar regions."
There is a just a mass of fascinating information about flying machines, even fantastic science fiction weapons, that can be found in translations of the Vedas (scriptures), Indian epics, and other ancient Sanskrit text.
There are no physical remains of ancient Indian aircraft technology but references to ancient flying machines are commonplace in the ancient Indian texts.

Several popular ancient epics describe their use in warfare. Depending on one's point of view, either it contains some of the earliest known science fiction, or it records conflict between beings with weapons as powerful and advanced as anything used today.
Above all we need to remember: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Grandiose time scales
Hinduism’s understanding of time is as grandiose as time itself. While most cultures base their cosmologies on familiar units such as few hundreds or thousands of years, the Hindu concept of time embraces billions and trillions of years. The Puranas describe time units from the infinitesimal truti, lasting 1/1,000,0000 of a second to a mahamantavara of 311 trillion years. Hindu sages describe time as cyclic, an endless procession of creation, preservation and dissolution. Scientists such as Carl Sagan have expressed amazement at the accuracy of space and time descriptions given by the ancient rishis and saints, who fathomed the secrets of the universe through their mystically awakened senses.

"European scholarship regards human civilization as a recent progression starting yesterday with the Fiji islander, and ending today with Rockefeller, conceiving ancient culture as necessarily half savage culture." It is a superstition of modern thought that the march of knowledge has always been linear." "Our vision of "prehistory" is terribly inadequate. We have not yet rid our minds from the hold of a one-and-only God or one-and-only Book, and now a one-and-only Science."
~ wrote Shri Aurobindo Ghosh (1872-1950) most original philosopher of modern India. For more refer to


“The ancient Hindus could navigate the air, and not only navigate it, but fight battles in it like so many war-eagles combating for the domination of the clouds. To be so perfect in aeronautics, they must have known all the arts and sciences related to the science, including the strata and currents of the atmosphere, the relative temperature, humidity, density and specific gravity of the various gases...”
~ Col. Henry S Olcott (1832 – 1907) American author, attorney, philosopher, and cofounder of the

Alexander Gorbovsky ( ?) an expert at the Russian Munitions Agency has written:
“The Mahabharata - an ancient Indian epic compiled 3000 years ago - contains a reference to a terrible weapon. Regrettably, in our age of the atomic bomb, the description of this weapon exploding will not appear to be an exaggeration: '.... a blazing shaft possessed of the effulgence of a smokeless fire (was) let off...'. That was how this weapon was perceived. The consequences of its use also evoke involuntary associations. '... This makes the bodies of the dead unidentifiable. ... The survivors lose their nails and hair, and their food becomes unfit for eating. For several subsequent years the Sun, the stars and the sky remain shrouded with clouds and bad weather'.
"This weapon was known as the Weapon of Brahma or the Flame of Indra......".
(source: Riddles of Ancient History - Alexander Gorbovsky, The Sputnik Magazine, Moscow
crystal sage
http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/survey.html

http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/255yuchi.html

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The Yu Chi Fu, or map of the Tracks of Yu the Great was carved in stone 1137. It is known to have been in use for an indefinite period before that. Like the portalanos of the West the real date of origin is unknown. A comparison of the river system shown on this map with that on a modern map of China shows a remarkable accuracy (see Figs. 77 and 78). This map was evidently drawn with excellent information as to longitudes, such as we find on the portalanos, but do not find on the classical maps of Greece and Rome, and which was certainly not typical of the cartography of medieval China or Japan.
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http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/chinese...php?deity=DA-YU

DA-YU: Ancient God of Flood Control.

A brilliant engineer, DA-YU conceived dams like you've never seen and dedicated his entire life to getting the waters under control. Legend tells that he abandoned his wife, transformed himself into a bear and scared half the country before he'd done.

We also understand that he subdued the Yellow River by beating it into submission with a gigantic iron staff. This implement was originally used by Heaven to hammer the Milky Way into shape and eventually found its way into the treasury of AO-KUANG, where it caused quite a few headaches thereafter.



cool.gif Would it be the same 'staff' used by Moses?
crystal sage
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/atlantid...p_lemuria_8.htm


http://www.newsfinder.org/site/more/the_lost_atlantis/

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Ancient writings from the Aztecs and Mayans like the Chilam Balam, Dresden Codex, Popuhl Vuh, Codex Cortesianus, and Troano Manuscript were also translated into histories of the destruction of Atlantis and Lemuria.

The ancient Greek historian Diodorus wrote that thousands of years earlier Phoenicians had been to the immense Atlantic island (where Plato wrote Atlantis was. Phoenician hieroglyphics have been found on numerous ruins in the South American jungles that are so ancient that the Indian tribes nearby lost memory of who built these ruins. Diodorus wrote that the Atlanteans had WAR with the Amazonians!

Greek historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote about the destruction of Atlantis.
http://www.book-of-thoth.com/thebook/index.php/Atlantis

Plutarch wrote about the lost continent in his book Lives.
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roma...tarch/home.html
Herodotus, regarded by some as the greatest historians of the ancients, wrote about the mysterious island civilization in the Atlantic and a city located in the region where Dr. Asher’s expedition had found just that! The Greek historian Timagenus wrote of the war between Atlantis and Europe and said tribes in ancient France said that was their original home.

Bright paintings in caves in France clearly show people wearing 20th century clothing: one painting led to an underground pyramid complex. French historian and archaeologist Robert Charroux dated them at 15,000 B.C.

http://forum.grasscity.com/spirituality-ph...olden-ages.html

http://www.stateoftheart.nl/phenomenon/fra...tisarticle1.htm
crystal sage


http://lanuitblanche.wordpress.com/the-city-of-is/

From The Mysteries of Carnac and Atlantis
By Paul Johnson

One intriguing possible connection which Markale does not address is the Archaic Maritime civilization of North America, which flourished 7000 to 3000 B.C. from Maine to Labrador. This seafaring culture built dwellings up to 270 feet long and erected primitive alignments of standing stones on the Atlantic coast, which predate the European megaliths by millennia. As some of these alignments are also oriented to solstitial sunrise, they may indicate a missing link between Atlantis and the European megaliths.

What became of the cyclopean builders of Western Europe? What traces of their civilization are left to us? Markale recounts various Breton tales of drowned cities, particularly the Ville d’Is (City of Is). According to some versions, a non-Christian and libidinous island nation is submerged after it refuses to listen to a Christian missionary ’s warnings. In another, a maiden charged with the key to the dike protecting the city yields it to the wrong person, who opens the dike. Other versions give different reasons for the submersion. Markale’s interest in these tales is that they provide possible culture traits from Atlantis or the megalith builders. About the mixed population of Roman Gaul, Markale quotes (p. 254) Ammianus Marcellinus (XV:9), citing a lost work of the Greek Timagenus:

According to Druidic lore, the population of Gaul is not indigenous except in part, and was increased at various times by absorbing foreign islanders from across the seas and by peoples chased from their lands across the Rhine either by the vicissitudes of war (a permanent state in these countries) or by the invasion of the violent element which thunders on their coasts.

This leads Markale to the hypothesis that the Celtic myth of a deluge is based on history — the emigration of the Celts being due to catastrophic flooding of their land. He speculates further that this area is the Baltic and Jutland coasts which experienced severe climatic changes around 1200 B.C., and that the migrants eventually blended with the “foreign islanders” of Atlantean stock who built the megaliths.

(From Sunrise magazine, October/November 1988; copyright © 1987 Theosophical University Press)
crystal sage
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http://www.angelfire.com/ego/et_deo/atlantis.wps.htm
There were some Atlanteans who escaped the destruction of their home-island and made their way to their overseas colonies or either found new colonies: some traveling east, others north, and some west. Those east settled in the Pyrenees Mountains between France and Spain and became the Basque. Those north settled in the northern parts of the British Isles, the Nordreys, and in the area around the Trondheimfjord in Western Norway, and became the Atecotti [Attacotti]. This was the third and last wave of Atlanteans to settle in the British Isles. And those west settled in Central America and became the Olmecs, the ancestors of the Mayans. Of these, the Basque, the Atecotti, and the Olmecs, only the Basque have survived as a nationality into modern times even though they have mixed over thousands of years with successive waves of invaders and colonists. Note that the Basque Language has nothing in common with any modern European language but has some common traits with some languages of the native American Indians. The Atecotti of Britain were said by the Romans to have spoken a language that was unlike the Celtic tongue but was akin to the Basque language.

The Atlantean kingdom in Britain was founded by a group of Atlantean refugees from Atlantis who came following the destruction of their home-island and settled in their colonies in the British Isles, in parts of Ulster, Northern Scotland, and the Nordreys [Orkneys, Shetlands, and Faroes], and became the Atecotti [Attacotti], so-called by later Romans. This group of Atlantean refugees migrated under the leadership of the Atlantean prince Creon, who was the first tribal chief/king of the Atecotti and the ancestor of their royal clan, the Creones, that is, Britain’s Third-Dynasty. Creon (Kreon) was a cousin of the last King of Atlantis and therefore a male-line descendant of Atlas, the first King of Atlantis and the founder of its dynasty. The Atecotti appear to have settled at first in the Nordreys, that is, the Northern Isles, namely, the Orkneys, the Shetlands, and the Faroes, from where they spread-out to Scotland, the Isle of Man, and to Norway. The Atecotti in Scotland became a major tribe rivaling the later Caledonians and Albanese. Their settlement in Norway was centered around the Trondheimsfjord in Western Norway, which was probably the legendary kingdom of “Thule” mentioned by classical writers. The classic Pytheas wrote (300BC) that Thule was six days sail from Britain. He was probably referring to the old Norwegian kingdom of Hlade, in the Trondelag, the area around the Trondheimsfjord in Western Norway, whose kings were the ancestors of the medieval Trondheim jarls/earls. There is a difference of opinion as to where Thule was: some say the Orkneys; some believe it to have been Iceland; and some say Scandinavia. The Atecotti, whom the Romans said were cannibals, built the “brochs”, wheel-houses, and “cairns“, which are found mainly in the far north of Scotland and the Nordreys. The “brochs” were high, round towers, built for defensive purposes; the wheel-houses were round stone huts with radial piers; and the “cairns” were elaborate interconnected groups of stone-built houses. The Atecotti later joined the Caledonians and Albanese in a series of wars with the Romans, who collectively called them “the Picts“.

The cataclysm that destroyed Atlantis may be remembered in British myths of the disappearance of such legendary cities as “Mevonia”, now submerged somewhere in the middle of Irish Sea [note: the islands of the Irish Sea, e.g., Isle of Man, etc., were one time called the "Mevanian Islands".]; or “Lyonesse”, now submerged off Land’s End, Cornwall, England; and “Ker-Is“, now submerged in the English Channel off Brittany, France, which was part of a chain of islands that are all now gone except for the Channel Islands. The island-city of “Hy-Brazil“, which legend says is now submerged somewhere in the North Atlantic “far out to sea” off Ireland, is thought to actually be a reference to Atlantis, whose northern fringe may very well have reached as far north as the British Isles. The “lost cantref of Wales” [“Cantref-y-Gwaelod“], the “Lowlying Land”, which marked the ancient western coast-line of Wales, now submerged under Cardigan Bay, was flooded possibly at the sametime of the break-up of the island-city of Mevonia into the Irish Sea; which may have occurred possibly at the sametime of the disappearance of “the Green Islands”, now submerged off Milford Haven, Wales, in the Irish Sea.


using scalar energy could cause a similar effect to that rumoured to have destroyed Atlantis....

http://www.animalweb.cl/n_o_imperial/tecno...a_escalar_2.htm

Note Hunter's patents for harnessing solar/scalar energy after his Pyramid explorations... investigations of secret underground chambers hiding ancient secrets....

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http://www.larryhunter.com/


May this site enlighten you to a world not seen by many. The world of humanities forgotten ancestors of the most ancient of times, which were buried with their sciences and the monolithic edifices they had rendered in stone; all buried by the effects of a cataclysmic event that happened so long ago it is just a myth in our memories today. This event was so severe that it wiped out 70 to 90% of the life on this planet and knocked the Earth out of its orbital constants. I will be posting information and questions on my web site that I have accumulated over the last 19 years and 23 trips to Egypt as it relates to the above and more.

Larry Dean Hunter

1. I want to start with the discovery of the Secret Room I discovered in June of 1979 inside the Great Pyramid and reveal some of the details relating to it that I have accumulated over the years.
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...howtopic=128438
crystal sage
The Asian... Indian sources of ancient history is valuable.. as all knowledge was considered sacred and therefore not to be manipulated destroyed by the various rules... politics.. religious influences of the past thousands of years... not like the arrogance of the European nations where rulers could rewrite history... purge and burn valuable old records... artifacts..

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http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/seta/2002/09...91200090200.htm
http://keralaarticles.blogspot.com/2007/11...r-of-delhi.html
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ALL ASPECTS of the 1600-year old Delhi iron pillar have been addressed in the book published by the author. New insights on the nature of the protective passive layer on the corrosion resistant Delhi iron pillar have now been obtained through modern state-of-art experimental studies.

Rust samples from the pillar were characterised by X-ray diffraction, Fourier transform infrared spectroscopy and Mossbauer spectroscopy.
`There has been no protective coating applied artificially on the pillar. This is verified by the fact that any freshly exposed part of the pillar surface attains the colour of the rest of the pillar in a relatively short period of time.

This conclusively indicates that the protective passive film on the Delhi iron pillar grows from the pillar material.

Moreover, the underlying heterogeneous structure of the pillar iron does not have any influence on the long-term atmospheric corrosion of the pillar, although its effect is felt only in the initial period of corrosion of the pillar iron.

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The Darpana Yanatras(The mirror machines/devices)

There are 8 Darpana Yantras and belong to 4 types of function:

Television
optical stealth, holography and cloaking
Laser and directed energy weapons
Energy generation

The mirrors are used for light related functions to either deflect, reflect, redirect, attract or amplify light and energy beams. In the same way lasers, holograms and solar cells work.

The mirrors are manufactured through special chemical processes using highly optically sensitive organic and inorganic substances.

The 5 main Darpana Yantras are:

1) Vishwa kriyaa darpana:

This device is used to obtain high resoluton real-time imagery of all activites around the Vimana, while in flight, and projected onto some screen. These lens are placed in a special arrangement with crystals, special mirrors and through a combination of solar, electric and mercury power are projected through some mechanism.

2) Shaktyakarshana darpana:

This device is used as a protection to neutralize harmful radiation in certain atmospheric zones. It is made up of 6 crystals positioned in a special arrangement that attract the harmful radiation and then gradually covert it to heat before it dissipates into the atmosphere.

3) Vyroopya darpana:

This is tactical device used to project battle field holographic images to confuse the enemy or to change the appearance of the Vimanas with a special deflecting mirror.

b4) Guha garbha darpana:

This is a weapon device and used to harness the energy from the sun, winds, and ether and to redirect it to incapaciate the enemy via a special redirecting mirror; essentially a directed energy weapon.
??? a way to harness scalar energy/

5) Rowdree Darpana:

This is also some kind of directed energy weapon device. It combined Rodwdree beams(?) with solar rays and produces a high heat intensity ray that can melt anything it is directed on.

The Shakitis(The power sources)

There are 7 sources of Shaktis:

TUNDILA - UDGAMA SHAKTI

PANJARA - PANJARA SHAKTI

AMSHUPA (SHAKTIPA) - SOLAR POWER ABSORPTION Scalar???

APAKARSHAKA - ABSORPTION OF POWER FROM ALIEN VIMANAS

SAANDHAANIKA - GROUP OF 12 FORCES

DAARPANIKA - ****INEE SHAKTI

SHAKTI PRASAVIKA -MAIN MOTIVE POWER



http://www.infinityfoundation.com/mandala/...nc_frameset.htm

absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Vimanas.htm
crystal sage
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http://atlantis.haktanir.org/ch3.html

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Below you have Athanasius Kircher's map (1669). Kircher was a Jesuit German priest, who lived between 1602-1680. He published "Mundus Subterraneus", a book containing a map of Atlantis according to ancient Egyptian maps. The original map was taken from Egypt by the Romans, probably around 30 B.C.

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Some claim that Kircher's island looks like the Antarctica on Piri Reis' map, and like nowadays Antarctica without the ice. The inscriptions on the continents say: "America, Atlantic Ocean, Atlantis, Africa, Spain". In the upper corner: "Site of Atlantis, now beneath the sea, according to the beliefs of the Egyptians and the description of Plato".

Being based on Egyptian maps, in Kircher's map north becomes south. The compass should point up, not down, so then the map would become the way we are used to it now: Africa and Spain, the Strait of Gibraltar on the right, and America, on the left.

According to Hapgood, 15,000 years ago, Antarctica was 2500 miles North of where it is now. Also, Reality TV said that once Antarctica was found where Sahara is now.



I think it looks like where all those islands... eg Micronesia and all the other thousands of islands are just above and around Australia
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http://www.marcopolovoyages.com/Beijing_14.../SectionTwo.htm


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Abraham Ortelius redrew the 1569 Mercator World Map in the form of an oblong or "planispheric" projection. This is the kind of map that was most in favor with the Jesuits. Note in particular the South Seas Australia (6) in the far left-hand corner of the map. Mercator identified this as the island of "New Guinea" that the Portuguese had conquered in about the year 1530. Of course, New Guinea wasn't actually located so close to South America.


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http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2007/07/2...1418-world-map/
The Chinese have this map to demonstrate that the story of how the ‘West’ discovered the World is only one of many versions of the very earliest form of globalisation.

The map is similar to many present-day Chinese world maps in that it positions at the centre of the map China (which used self-confidently to refer to itself as the “Middle Kingdom”), and not Europe. It states that it is a 1763 copy of a fifteenth-century original. Chinese characters written beside the map say it was drawn by Mo Yi Tong and copied from a map made in the 16th year of the Emperor Yongle, or 1418.

The double dating of this map implies that America was explored and mapped by the Chinese at least 70 years before Columbus made landfall in what he then still thought was India. Furthermore, it shows Africa and Australia in fairly accurate detail. Europeans only stumbled across Australia after 1600.

This map supports the controversial claim that a Chinese mega-flotilla under an admiral named Zheng He sailed around the world in 1421. Zheng He is an historical figure, and he is known to have visited South East Asia, India and Africa - his explorations span a 30-year period from 1405 to 1435. However, the claim that he visited America is not sufficiently proven, many experts hold.
crystal sage
http://ancientx.com/nm/anmviewer.asp?a=62

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1. ANCIENT MU OR LEMURIA
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According to various esoteric sources, the first civilization arose 78,000 years ago on the giant continent known as Mu or Lemuria and lasted for an astonishing 52,000 years. It is sometimes said to have been destroyed in earthquakes generated by a pole shift which occurred some 26,000 years ago, or at approximately 24,000 B.C.

While Mu did not reach as high a technology, supposedly, as other later civilizations, it is, nevertheless, said to have attained some advanced technology, particularly in the building of long-lasting megalithic buildings that were able to withstand earthquakes. However, it was the science of government that is sometimes said to have been Mu's greatest achievement.

Supposedly, there was one language and one government. Education was the keynote of the Empire's success, and because every citizen was versed in the laws of the universe and was given thorough training in a profession or trade, magnificent prosperity resulted. A child's education was compulsory to the age of 21 in order for him to be eligible to attend citizenship school. This training period lasted for seven years; so the earliest age at which a person could become a citizen of the empire was 28.
JonnyC
Some very interesting information has been presented here.

Thank you, Crystal for taking the time to present your ideas and for all of the links that you have made reference to.

May I ask what your personal opinion of the whereabouts of Atlantis (supposing that the collective memories of mankind do contain some merit)?
crystal sage
http://wordth3.blogspot.com/2007/12/10500-bc.html
Plato described Atlantis as a connector between multiple civilizations that was easily traversed

I tend to agree with the above statement... that there were many advanced nations at the time of 'Atlantis' just like today we have advanced civilizations all over the world... necessary for trade... travel...

Would the great nations of the world today be as mighty... as rich.. if not for the existence of parallel nations.. to trade.. exchange knowledge.. technology.. treasures... wealth...???

There is evidence of ancient submerged cities all over the world

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http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni.html

with more and more being discovered all the time... I still think Micronesia and Nan Madol
http://www.janeresture.com/micronesia_madol/
has a lot more secrets to unveil... and that it is part of something much older than suggested...

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread308928/pg1



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Atlantis : the antediluvian world / Donnelly, Ignatius, 1831-1901
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"At the head of the Egyptian Delta, where the river Nile
divides, there is a certain district which is called the district of
Sais, and the great city of the district is also called Sais, and is the
city from which Amasis the king was sprung. And the citizens have a
deity who is their foundress: she is called in the Egyptian tongue
Neith, which is asserted by them to be the same whom the Hellenes called
Athene. Now, the citizens of this city are great lovers of the
Athenians, and say that they are in some way related to them. Thither
came Solon, who was received by them with great honor; and he asked the
priests, who were most skilful in such matters, about antiquity, and
made the discovery that neither he nor any other Hellene knew anything
worth mentioning about the times of old. On one occasion, when he was
drawing them on to speak of antiquity, he began to tell about the most
ancient things in our part of the world--about Phoroneus, who is called
'the first,' and about Niobe; and, after the Deluge, to tell of the
lives of Deucalion and Pyrrha; and he traced the genealogy of their
descendants, and attempted to reckon bow many years old were the events
of which he was speaking, and to give the dates. Thereupon, one of the
priests, who was of very great age; said, 'O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes
are but children, and there is never an old man who is an Hellene.'
Solon, bearing this, said, 'What do you mean?' 'I mean to say,' he
replied, 'that in mind you are all young; there is no old opinion handed
down among you by ancient tradition, nor any science which is hoary with
age. And I will tell you the reason of this: there have been, and there
will be again, many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes.
There is a story which even you have preserved, that once upon a time
Phaethon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father's
chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his
father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed
by a thunderbolt. Now, this has the form of a myth, but really signifies
a declination of the bodies moving around the earth and in the heavens,
and a great conflagration of things upon the earth recurring at long
intervals of time: when this happens, those who live upon the mountains
and in dry and lofty places are more liable to destruction than those
who dwell by rivers or on the sea-shore; and from this calamity the
Nile, who is our never-failing savior, saves and delivers us. When, on
the other hand, the gods purge the earth with a deluge of water, among
you herdsmen and shepherds on the mountains are the survivors, whereas
those of you who live in cities are carried by the rivers into the sea;
but in this country neither at that time nor at any other does the water
come from above on the fields, having always a tendency to come up from
below, for which reason the things preserved here are said to be the
oldest. The fact is, that wherever the extremity of winter frost or of
summer sun does not prevent, the human race is always increasing at
times, and at other times diminishing in numbers. And whatever happened
either in your country or in ours, or in any other region of which we
are informed--if any action which is noble or great, or in any other way
remarkable has taken place, all that has been written down of old, and
is preserved in our temples; whereas you and other nations are just
being provided with letters and the other things which States require;
and then, at the usual period, the stream from heaven descends like a
pestilence, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters
and education; and thus you have to begin all over again as children,
and know nothing of what happened in ancient times, either among us or
among yourselves. As for those genealogies of yours which you have
recounted to us, Solon, they are no better than the tales of children;
for, in the first place, you remember one deluge only, whereas there
were many of them; and, in the next place, you do not know that there
dwelt in your land the fairest and noblest race of men which ever lived,
of whom you and your whole city are but a seed or remnant. And this was
unknown to you, because for many generations the survivors of that
destruction died and made no sign. For there was a time, Solon, before
that great deluge of all, when the city which now is Athens was first in
war, and was preeminent for the excellence of her laws, and is said to
have performed the noblest deeds, and to have had the fairest
constitution of any of which tradition tells, under the face of heaven.'
Solon marvelled at this, and earnestly requested the priest to inform
him exactly and in order about these former citizens. 'You are welcome
to hear about them, Solon,' said the priest, 'both for your own sake and
for that of the city; and, above all, for the sake of the goddess who is
the common patron and protector and educator of both our cities. She
founded your city a thousand years before ours, receiving from the Earth
and Hephaestus the seed of your race, and then she founded ours, the
constitution of which is set down in our sacred registers as 8000 years
old. As touching the citizens of 9000 years ago, I will briefly inform
you of their laws and of the noblest of their actions; and the exact
particulars of the whole we will hereafter go through at our leisure, in
the sacred registers themselves. If you compare these very laws with
your own, you will find that many of ours are the counterpart of yours,
as they were in the olden time. In the first place, there is the caste
of priests, which is separated from all the others; next there are the
artificers, who exercise their several crafts by themselves, and without
admixture of any other; and also there is the class of shepherds and
that of hunters, as well as that of husbandmen; and you will observe,
too, that the warriors in Egypt are separated from all the other
classes, and are commanded by the law only to engage in war; moreover,
the weapons with which they are equipped are shields and spears, and
this the goddess taught first among you, and then in Asiatic countries,
and we among the Asiatics first adopted.
(SG)Max
To be truthful , the whole thing you've been writing about is just a whole bunch of crap to me. If all these discoveries are true , how come they have never been shown to the world. I have never even heard about these stuff. I think that you are either an insane maniac , or you are just a writer getting ideas for a soon-to-be bestseller.
The Sandman
QUOTE ((SG)Max @ Jun 23 2008, 09:38 AM) *
To be truthful , the whole thing you've been writing about is just a whole bunch of crap to me. If all these discoveries are true , how come they have never been shown to the world. I have never even heard about these stuff. I think that you are either an insane maniac , or you are just a writer getting ideas for a soon-to-be bestseller.



Dude, dont get worked up.
CS is our resident golle expert..god knows where and how she gets these info.
She has varied interests and doesnt believe in any.
She may post on inner earth/inner terrestrials
the next moment she may post about extra terrrestials...blah blah..left and right she posts.
she finds everything interesting.

and she is not getting ideas for a best seller. she is just sharing the info she finds on the net.

cheers!
crystal sage
QUOTE ((SG)Max @ Jun , 03:38 PM)
To be truthful , the whole thing you've been writing about is just a whole bunch of crap to me. If all these discoveries are true , how come they have never been shown to the world. I have never even heard about these stuff. I think that you are either an insane maniac , or you are just a writer getting ideas for a soon-to-be bestseller.



List which bits you find hard to believe..About all those ancient submerged cities that have been discovered... where have you been?
Mexican
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/...amp;oref=slogin

http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~dhixson/mont...montealban.html
http://www.gypsylounge.com/x/nam/history_lesson/mexhis.htm

3,000 Submarine Cities and Prehistoric Caves by Dr Nic Flemming OBE
http://www.noc.soton.ac.uk/nocs/news.php?a...ews&idx=115
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Underwater Archaeology Institute divers inspect a wall-like structure that some believe may have been built 20 thousand years ago.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archi...02/12/01/185543

Supposedly stretching from somewhere in what is today the South China Sea to Hawaii and encompassing many of the Pacific Islands, Mudalu (姆大陸) was, according to the legend, home to Asia's earliest peoples, the Ketagalan (凱達格蘭族), who supposedly lived in Asia sometime between seven and 15 thousand years ago.

Quite possibly Asia's earliest civilization, the Ketagalan peoples were reportedly incredibly advanced for the time, with both the know-how to create household utensils, a written language and the ability to construct pyramids and megaliths. Just how the Ketagalan could have been so advanced, however, is where the legend gets a bit sketchy and, as some believe, quite unearthly.


Explorers view lost city ruins under the sea off Cuba
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/41/236.html

Japan's Underwater Pyramids
http://tinwiki.org/wiki/Japan's_Underwater_Pyramids

Drowned Indian city could be world's oldest

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1808...lds-oldest.html

http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/1134/Dvar...found_in_India/
crystal sage
QUOTE (Da Verminator @ Jun , 06:54 PM)
Dude, dont get worked up.
CS is our resident golle expert..god knows where and how she gets these info.
She has varied interests and doesnt believe in any.
She may post on inner earth/inner terrestrials
the next moment she may post about extra terrrestials...blah blah..left and right she posts.
she finds everything interesting.

and she is not getting ideas for a best seller. she is just sharing the info she finds on the net.

cheers!



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