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LONELY_1
God made sex...............and left it up to you to have sex at the appropriate time. You can either disobey God and have premarital sex or you can obey him and have sex after marriage. It's just like any other sin. A test of faith.
Ashley-Star*Child
Sex before marriage is NOT a sin and it it written NOWHERE in the Bible that it is. Furthermore my personal choice to not engage in sex before marriage had NOTHING to do with religious reasons for the abovementioned.

That aside ANYONE who lived together in OT times and had sex were considered 'married' there was no formal ritual likethere is today. It is not a test of faith.

Then there are the Christians who preach to you WHAT you are 'allowed' to do with your partner/husband. It's none of their damn business and furthermore apart from sodomy (which I can fully understand why God detests) God is SILENT on such matters, therefore God doesn't really CARE what you do in your own bedroom.
LONELY_1
Did I forget to mention that was my opinion, and did I also forget to mention I'm not a christian? sorry about that.

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therefore God doesn't really CARE what you do in your own bedroom.
.........unless you are raping someone.
Ashley-Star*Child
Well rape is a crime, that is a different matter.
LONELY_1
Just forget I said that.
RougeRat
Ashley, can you explain some of these things on this site then? http://www.new-life.net/premarital.htm They are excerpts from the old testament concerning premarital sex. Would you consider these cultural ways or God's teachings?
Normal Person
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child @ Mar 14 2007, 05:53 AM) [snapback]1582121[/snapback]
So why do so made Christians have a problem with it? The idea of 'original sin' was MADE UP by AUGUSTINE a Scorpio no less. The sin of Adam and Eve was this. God TOLD THEM ABOUT FREE WILL, and He told them about the good and bad paths, but then they went and deliberately DISOBEYED HIM. They ate of the tree of knowledge which he warned would cause death. But here's the catch, God KNEW they would do it. He said when He made Eve from the then angdronygous Adam that 'he would bring death through Eve'. WHY? Because they were a 'second kind of angel' with free will and the ability to REPRODUCE. Angels are made by God directly, so it would seem God didn't want angels creating angels in the Heavens because 1. angels are solely loyal to God, 2. angels as the Sons of God WORK for God 'fallen' or not, and 3. they don't have the free will not NOT love God. This second kind of angel who could reproduce AND had the ability through free will to either 'love or abhor God' just wouldn't go. Only through explusion and death would this work out. So the sin indeed was NOT sex and where this idea that itwas sex came from is beyond me. Adam and Eve probably had sex in Eden and God had no problem with it.


Ill give you a hint...... (Christian is a fake religion, and god isnt real.) so it doesnt really matter anyways
zimbob
God made Sex dontgetit.gif

I would like to take this opportunity to publicly thank God for Sex thumbsup.gif however without women no matter how much I thank God for Sex I doubt I would actually get any crying.gif so I would also like to take this opportunity to publicly thank women for being irresistible. blush.gif
Cadetak
If it wasn't for premarital sex the human species wouldn't have survived...because I doubt the cavemen cared about a silly
ritual. tongue.gif
Son of _Adam
QUOTE(Normal Person @ Apr 10 2007, 01:18 AM) [snapback]1621234[/snapback]
Ill give you a hint...... (Christian is a fake religion, and god isnt real.) so it doesnt really matter anyways


Well dang, I guess he just summed it up right there! I thought it was real the whole time, thanks for clearing that up for me mate. I think you just pretty much proved Christianity false with that statement.
texasgirlheather
Ill give you a hint...... (Christian is a fake religion, and god isnt real.) so it doesnt really matter anyways



Well, I'll be. And to think all this time I wasted.. I wish you would have come along sooner with that concise breakdown that shattered all my illusions. I've never heard it put like that before. Outstanding argument!
LONELY_1
QUOTE(texasgirlheather @ Apr 10 2007, 02:11 AM) [snapback]1621324[/snapback]
Ill give you a hint...... (Christian is a fake religion, and god isnt real.) so it doesnt really matter anyways


This is one of those times where you should really use IMO.
Shankpin
QUOTE( @ Apr 9 2007, 03:19 AM) [snapback]1619817[/snapback]
I also personally believe that sex should only be between two people who love each other or means nothing and is pointless, which is part of the reason why I've made the choice at a very young age to not have sex until marriage. There are other factors influencing that decison but one of the main ones is that to me teh actual act of sex is a very big thing and not something I'd want to share with someone who one day I mayhave to break up with. I just couldn't do it.


I can admire anyone who has made such a decision in their lives. A choice with many blessings. thumbsup.gif
texasgirlheather
I'm sorry, I didn't make it clear, that was not what I said, that was what Normal Person said, but I forgot to quote it before I posted my response, so I was lazy and went back and edited to add it in, but the "Normal Person" tag didn't show when I did it like that, because I copied and pasted instead of quoting (I don't know if you can quote and then go back and add it to an existing post). Normal Person said the line at the top, mine was the response at the bottom. I shouldn't have been so lazy.
And yes, Normal Person, that really was one of those times when you should use, "IMO." I've forgotten to do it, too, when I should have, it's no big deal.
thaphantum
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child @ Apr 9 2007, 01:57 AM) [snapback]1619850[/snapback]
Sex before marriage is NOT a sin and it it written NOWHERE in the Bible that it is.


i'm going to have to side with Ashley on this one... it's one of those elusive verses that SUPPOSEDLY exists but you can never find it... disgust.gif

just like the one about using bad language... disgust.gif

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That aside ANYONE who lived together in OT times and had sex were considered 'married' there was no formal ritual likethere is today. It is not a test of faith.


right again...

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Then there are the Christians who preach to you WHAT you are 'allowed' to do with your partner/husband. It's none of their damn business and furthermore apart from sodomy (which I can fully understand why God detests) God is SILENT on such matters, therefore God doesn't really CARE what you do in your own bedroom.


all true except for one account where God kills a guy for spilling his seed on the floor on purpose... but that was in direct defiance of God... so that's a different story all together...

great post... thumbsup.gif
thaphantum
QUOTE(RougeRat @ Apr 9 2007, 01:52 PM) [snapback]1620785[/snapback]
Ashley, can you explain some of these things on this site then? http://www.new-life.net/premarital.htm They are excerpts from the old testament concerning premarital sex. Would you consider these cultural ways or God's teachings?


i know you asked ashley... but....

a lot of those verse do say that it is looked down on... but nowhere does it say it's a sin...

also a few of those were in reference to spending your money on prostitues... which again isn't a sin... but the Bible does say that it's a pretty stupid thing to do...
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child @ Mar 14 2007, 07:59 AM) [snapback]1582124[/snapback]
Futhermore Eden is NOT on Earth, Eden in in space on another planet most likely Mars. Just like all the 10 levels of Heaven are in space, and so is God Himself.
it's Venus ........B









halfhandshuffle:Zep-dazed & confused
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7ITHBFq1ao
RougeRat
QUOTE(thaphantum @ Apr 10 2007, 03:01 AM) [snapback]1621416[/snapback]
i know you asked ashley... but....

a lot of those verse do say that it is looked down on... but nowhere does it say it's a sin...

also a few of those were in reference to spending your money on prostitues... which again isn't a sin... but the Bible does say that it's a pretty stupid thing to do...


I figured. I don't have a bible with me at work, so I figured I'd look up a few verses online. It's a bit hard to see their full meaning unless read more than one verse.

I agree that buying a prostitute is a bit stupid...and not to mention a waste of moeny. I mean really..it isn't THAT hard to get laid (STD free), right? rofl.gif
JMPD1
Just goes to show......


If god does exist, he is a civil engineer. Why else would he put the playground so close to the waste disposal facilities?
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