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Jules22871
A friend sent this to me. I persoanlly think that pretty much everyting in this can be explained but I want to hear fromyou. Thanks!


Clicky
MUM24/7
Great special effects..... rolleyes.gif What would have impressed me is.....I don't know.......maybe the dining table levitating half a metre off the floor or maybe the chair being picked up and smashed in the mirror..... w00t.gif

Yep...that would impress me...... wink2.gif
Usagi
Pretty creepy, but I have a lot of doubts about it... The angle seemed planned since you can't prove the chairs or table move by themselves... And who leaves the light on to film ghosts? Someone should get a screen shot of the "face" they say is in the video. laugh.gif
Mallaliak
Nice movie, feels a bit too good actually. One question only, why would a ghost want to move around once furniture? and some people mentioned seeing a face in that movie, I couldent find it..
Jules22871
I never did see a face either. And like I said, pretty much everything on there can be faked. I think it is interesting how elaborate some people get with these things.
Barek Halfhand
that vid is wicked! thumbsup.gif I see all sorts of things...cool!



update:baffled by breathing thing as well...





halfhandshuffle:greenday VS barek mudfight(yes was there)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzInixkTxg4
incarnatehellraiser
personally it looks to me like a stop start video....but hey im no pro what do i know
incarnatehellraiser
well apart from the camera falling...its a fake i reckon...but like i said i aint no pro!
sergestorms
QUOTE(Usagi @ Mar 15 2007, 02:25 AM) [snapback]1583422[/snapback]
Pretty creepy, but I have a lot of doubts about it... The angle seemed planned since you can't prove the chairs or table move by themselves... And who leaves the light on to film ghosts? Someone should get a screen shot of the "face" they say is in the video. laugh.gif



i was unable to get the screenchot but the face appears in front of the door at the 39 second mark.....just a quick flash with not a lot of detail......
Bogeyman
QUOTE(sergestorms @ Mar 15 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]1583614[/snapback]
i was unable to get the screenchot but the face appears in front of the door at the 39 second mark.....just a quick flash with not a lot of detail......



Eh ?

I've stopped it between 35 and 43 seconds four times and i cant see any face ?
As for the rest of it ...Hmmmmmm , you'd imagine with all the thousands of amateur ghosthunter organisations out there one of them would have captured something like this...but none have....as far as i know..
The breathing added for effect is a bit too much ...dontja think ?
Thozzman
To see the face just keep your eye on the door right after it shuts.
I have no idea if it's real or fake.
The only person who knows that is the one who filmed it, whether he be alive or deceased. wink2.gif
AmantdesEtoiles
it's interesting, but as much as i'd like to believe that it's not faked, the breathing seems to be coming from behind the area being filmed (exactly behind the camera) as if someone is actually filming this and adding the breathing.
Thozzman
QUOTE(AmantdesEtoiles @ Mar 15 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]1583728[/snapback]
it's interesting, but as much as i'd like to believe that it's not faked, the breathing seems to be coming from behind the area being filmed (exactly behind the camera) as if someone is actually filming this and adding the breathing.


Excellent observation.
I was wondering about the breathing as well.
Also, why would a ghost or spirit need to breathe?
organgrinder
The breathing is way too over the top. It's all a little too much. Plus you can't even see all of the table or chairs. Anyone could be standing off camera pulling the table. The video would have been creepy to me if it had been subtle. Like maybe just a glass moving a little or something. Instead of doors flying all over and chairs on wires zinging across the floor and people yanking on tables and then the poor asthmatic character behind the camera knocks that over onto the floor. With all that huffing and gasping the video should have been named "How to Use the Force to Rearrange Your Furniture with Your Host, Darth Vader".
Kalien
QUOTE(organgrinder @ Mar 15 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]1584023[/snapback]
The breathing is way too over the top. It's all a little too much. Plus you can't even see all of the table or chairs. Anyone could be standing off camera pulling the table. The video would have been creepy to me if it had been subtle. Like maybe just a glass moving a little or something. Instead of doors flying all over and chairs on wires zinging across the floor and people yanking on tables and then the poor asthmatic character behind the camera knocks that over onto the floor. With all that huffing and gasping the video should have been named "How to Use the Force to Rearrange Your Furniture with Your Host, Darth Vader".



lol ZING, yeah this is obviously a fake. Hoaxers should be jailed! JAILED!
Episteme
Judging by the changing contrast throughout the movie I'd say it was hoaxed. Not to mention you can't see a full view of any of the items that are thrown over... strings anyone? I kept thinking someone had seen too many Star Wars movies with the Darth Vader breathing.

Here is a screen grab of the face that appears in the door. The second is a lightened view, the whole area looks suspicious - splotchy... but I'm no video editor. Just my opinion. wink2.gif

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Jules22871
Thanks for getting that. It reminds me of one of theater masks,lol I figured everyone wuold have a good time with this one and it was one I hadn't seen on here before. It is videos like this that will make it near impossible for someone with real evidence to ever be accepted.
F-16 Falcon
It's kind of hard to determine whether or not this is a "fake", or if it's the real deal. Anything that has been caught on camera these days can easily be faked, one way or another... so I don't really know what to believe anymore.
Shankpin
I attempted to take a screenshot of the "face" appearing on the center of door at exactly 39 seconds..maybe this shot is clear enough to be seen---

*edit* Nevermind.. someone beat me to it..

anyhoo, it reminds me of that face that flashes across the screen in the movie "The exorcist."
StoneAgeQueen
Yeah, I noticed the face straight away.. I don't know how they would fake that part.
Episteme
True, Alienated Being. I tend to look at how strong the "evidence" is... in this case it would be pretty simple to fake. But, also, in how it was presented. Did the people at the house call 20/20, the local news teams, or TAPS to come investigate and try to come up with solid evidence, or did they add some captions and post it on an internet video sharing site? Personally, I'd probably do both, but until I see some supporting evidence I'll pass most of these off as a hoax. Too many kids with too much time on their hands. wink2.gif

The changing brightness is what really gets me on this one. It would appear that this was taped at different times of the night, subtle changes in light can show up drastically in video, and I think that's what happened here. But as I said, I'm no expert.
Barek Halfhand
Is it possible we are seeing something that was filmed through a glass patio door?........B

Just playing fair...... but this one is spooky





halfhandshuffle:Anthrax-got the time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Mgp4n9r58
Shankpin
How would that cause the appearing and disappearing in such a way, and so quickly?
googiboo
Hey guys. Im leaning towards hoax with this one. Everything that gets moved is infront of the camera. Now either the ghost wants to be a movie star, or it keeps happening in the same spot. The angle of the camera when it hits the floor is alittle odd. I cant think of any camera that would land like that. Its not on a tripod, cause you can tell by the angle on which it falls. Aswell when the camera hits the floor, where is the bounce??? Even a 20kg gym weight will bounce alittle.

The only thing that intrigues me is when the door flies open and hits the wall, again there is no bounce. If someone physically threw the door open, there would have surely been a bounce. If there was string or rope used, again there would have been bounce. The only way i can think of is if they used a strong magnet to keep the door from bouncing, or stopped the camera just before the door hit the wall, then started it again in the open position and added some sound effects.

What are your thoughts?????
Please Explain
The poster said "We filmed it".
Why the door sticked like a magnet and never bounce back?
To many strings to pull in there.
The breathing of course is a sound effect but the door creaking
suggests it's done by a pro.
Oh about that face, very easy to include it on the frame, why?
there are 24 or 30 frame in a second of a film.
Take one out of that and put the face then return it back, easy !
Barek Halfhand
Hey GGB
QUOTE(googiboo @ Mar 15 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]1584521[/snapback]
The angle of the camera when it hits the floor is alittle odd. I cant think of any camera that would land like that. Its not on a tripod, cause you can tell by the angle on which it falls. Aswell when the camera hits the floor, where is the bounce??? Even a 20kg gym weight will bounce alittle.
.......depends on the floor
QUOTE
The only thing that intrigues me is when the door flies open and hits the wall, again there is no bounce. If someone physically threw the door open, there would have surely been a bounce... What are your thoughts??
something of the physical nature didn't throw the door open....B





halfhandshuffle: megadeth-symphony of destruction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZmPD6-vNVY
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Mar 15 2007, 08:37 PM) [snapback]1584529[/snapback]
Oh about that face, very easy to include it on the frame, why?
there are 24 or 30 frame in a second of a film.
Take one out of that and put the face then return it back, easy !
what about the screenshots andy?.....B
googiboo
Hey Barek. I think regardless of the floor, its stll going to be flat. The camera lands on its top, and pointed towards the floor on an angle. Seeing that most cameras are back heavy, would it mean if it landed on its top, it would stlll would sit flat??? The only way i think a camera could fall like that, is if it landed on something like a shoe, that would push the back end up
Loonboy


TOTALLY FAKE

Look at the way the net curtain moves: you can see the film reverse. When the door opens and hits the wall, the curtain stops moving instantly. If it was real footage, the curtain would still be shifting.

Also the shape that moves in front of the camera is reversed to go back across it.

Very poor.

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Barek Halfhand
perhaps LB, but its still creepy for some reason.....B







find the fish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWlUu54muOs
organgrinder
I also thought the way the camera hit the floor was a little odd, but anyway. They could have made it more realistic, but they also could have made it much worse.
Thozzman
QUOTE(googiboo @ Mar 15 2007, 09:29 PM) [snapback]1584521[/snapback]
Hey guys. Im leaning towards hoax with this one. Everything that gets moved is infront of the camera. Now either the ghost wants to be a movie star, or it keeps happening in the same spot. The angle of the camera when it hits the floor is alittle odd. I cant think of any camera that would land like that. Its not on a tripod, cause you can tell by the angle on which it falls. Aswell when the camera hits the floor, where is the bounce??? Even a 20kg gym weight will bounce alittle.

The only thing that intrigues me is when the door flies open and hits the wall, again there is no bounce. If someone physically threw the door open, there would have surely been a bounce. If there was string or rope used, again there would have been bounce. The only way i can think of is if they used a strong magnet to keep the door from bouncing, or stopped the camera just before the door hit the wall, then started it again in the open position and added some sound effects.

What are your thoughts?????


Maybe the door segment was actually filmed in reverse, i.e. the door began in the open position against the wall and was yanked shut by a piece of fine fishing line. Then Edited out, reversed and replaced. Just a thought..

The face on the door would be simple to fake. Just put a drawing or photo of someones face, under an overhead projector and project it onto the doorway.
Turning it on and off would give the impression of it fading in and out.
There's too many things that could be hoaxed in this video and not enough (if any) solid evidence.
The rub is, anything and everything can be faked very easily if you have the equipment and know how to do it, and it's really not all that expensive.
Please Explain
QUOTE(Thozzman @ Mar 16 2007, 09:53 PM) [snapback]1585686[/snapback]
Just put a drawing or photo of someones face, under an overhead projector and project it onto the doorway.
Turning it on and off would give the impression of it fading in and out.

More easier than doing photoshop.
Barek was more creepier than the door.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Mar 16 2007, 04:11 PM) [snapback]1585713[/snapback]
More easier than doing photoshop.
Barek was more creepier than the door.
please dont! ohmy.gif
Please Explain.....B




I get beat up enuff


halfhandshufffle:dethklock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdcmSpS5CYQ
Lady_Anvilabeel
Sorry, but i just laughed my arse off at this laugh.gif - ok really it's that frigging heavy breather video guy back again, that's the only entity that i can think of......
jonb
haha check the door swing open, its been reversed, the suction effect on the curtain thing is visible twice.

hurrghhhhhggg... this should have been picked out right away as a blatant fake.
Episteme
QUOTE(Anvil @ Mar 16 2007, 10:52 PM) [snapback]1586079[/snapback]
Sorry, but i just laughed my arse off at this laugh.gif - ok really it's that frigging heavy breather video guy back again, that's the only entity that i can think of......


HAHAHA!!!!

I was kind of wondering the same thing... maybe he switched video sites for a new and more believing audience. The quality is so much worse though!

Rbacon anyone? Previous thread on the "heat of the moment breather" here.

Wish I didn't find that video, I'm still giggling. rofl.gif
Jules22871
QUOTE(Anvil @ Mar 16 2007, 08:52 PM) [snapback]1586079[/snapback]
Sorry, but i just laughed my arse off at this laugh.gif - ok really it's that frigging heavy breather video guy back again, that's the only entity that i can think of......

I thought that too but he has changed a little, doesn't sound as sexual in this one,lol The first itme i saw that video with his breathing i cracked up,lol I stil have it saved to shoe poeple for a laugh!
Jules22871
Here is another one a friend found. clicky You need the volume up on this. No, nothing is going to jump out at you. I am curious to know if you all hear anything besides some light breathing.
Lottie
Williams, I have merged your other thread with this one. thumbsup.gif
Jules22871
Cool, thanks!!!
KAOSInc
But wait....there's more!



linked-image


Click the pic for more undecipherable ramblings!

In my opinion....it's fake as you can see from his other videos....he's an Illusionist!

Source: http://www.metacafe.com/user/4075517/mysterious1/
Shadowh86
QUOTE(williams22871 @ Mar 15 2007, 08:47 AM) [snapback]1583393[/snapback]
A friend sent this to me. I persoanlly think that pretty much everyting in this can be explained but I want to hear fromyou. Thanks!
Clicky



At 39th second of video you can see that face apperead
And the black thing is (I thing) Shadow People

I believe it is them because door did not hit the wall (Shadow people just do not like to destroy things)

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I have looked that video vith no sound (I have not looked it at home)
Robert M. Blevins
Alienated Being says:

QUOTE
"It's kind of hard to determine whether or not this is a "fake", or if it's the real deal. Anything that has been caught on camera these days can easily be faked, one way or another... so I don't really know what to believe anymore."


You are right. The only way a video can be verified nowadays is by a good professional service. They have the tools, they know the tricks... happy.gif
Jules22871
QUOTE(KAOSInc @ Mar 21 2007, 08:03 AM) [snapback]1593090[/snapback]
But wait....there's more!

<a href="http://www.metacafe.com/watch/477417/demons_and_ghosts_2/" target="_blank">

linked-image</a>

Click the pic for more undecipherable ramblings!

In my opinion....it's fake as you can see from his other videos....he's an Illusionist!

Source: http://www.metacafe.com/user/4075517/mysterious1/


How on earth did you see that? I had to lighten it up to see it. Good catch. Not sure what it is but it is pretty weird. Thanks.

EDIT: Forgot to add the pic,lol
Daniella2310
scaaaaaaaaaaaary
Normal Person
The door and table and chairs had strings attached to them, people off camera pulled them, and why would poltergeists need oxygen? someone is obviously standing behind the camera waving some sort of fabric and breathing..

An OBVIOUS fake.
Claizen
DId anyone notice that, in the second video, the reflection of the camera never moved?
cerberusxp
Well, you can move the slider anywhere you want. I looked at the face pretty darn close, white face, large dark eye sockets, and a big O for a mouth and looks to be wearing a hood. "Scary movie" style. Cool vid fake or no.
KAOSInc
QUOTE(Jules22871 @ Mar 25 2007, 04:38 AM) [snapback]1598211[/snapback]
How on earth did you see that? I had to lighten it up to see it. Good catch. Not sure what it is but it is pretty weird. Thanks.

EDIT: Forgot to add the pic,lol


Thanks for lightening the picture up a bit thumbsup.gif ...I guess I was too tired to fiddle with Picassa 2 to enhance the picture that night.

If I look straight into my picture I can just make out the face...but if I hunch a little...that is when I noticed the face. Guess it has something to do with my LCD screen.
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