Thylacina
Mar 15 2007, 08:56 AM
I was browsing around on YouTube and I came across these film clips. I've watched the first one over and over and I can't decide what it might be. I'm stuck between a Thylacine and a young lion. The second vid looks like it might very well be a thylacine. What do you think???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7hqwat5Uv8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUM4B2B3SC4
Twisted
Mar 15 2007, 03:30 PM
QUOTE(Thylacina @ Mar 15 2007, 08:56 AM) [snapback]1583487[/snapback]
I was browsing around on YouTube and I came across these film clips. I've watched the first one over and over and I can't decide what it might be. I'm stuck between a Thylacine and a young lion. The second vid looks like it might very well be a thylacine. What do you think???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7hqwat5Uv8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUM4B2B3SC4The first on is a lion, you can tell by the way it walks. The second one Im not sure but you could be right, looks like it can be a Thylacine... Wouldn't that be nice if it was!
Pelican_Eel
Mar 15 2007, 03:52 PM
I'm not a thylacine expert, but the second one very much looks like real... I watched that 1933 footage and noticed that they have really short back legs' feet... I mean that part between toes and heel... the animal in the second video has the same.
As I said i'm not an expert, just guessing
GaarasDemonicPetBunny
Mar 15 2007, 07:40 PM
OMG! On both videos it looks like the creature is a Thylacene. Im no expert when it comes to them, but looking at the physical features on them, they look just like Thylacenes. but the first one in my opinon might just be a (young) lion, but i dunno. Im just soooo happy that they might not be extinct after all. oh, and may I add that they might just be dogs
Mattshark
Mar 15 2007, 11:04 PM
The first one does not look like a thylacine to me, the land scape looks very much like African savannah than anything else. The second one just looks like a dog (which is more likely).
XSAS
Mar 15 2007, 11:50 PM
I agree with Matt, the first one does look very much like a thylacine the rear end and tail are very distinctive and I can understand the African savannah comment however many parts of Aussie look very similar to an African savannah.
Second one does look very doglike.. I can't quite make out the rear end and tail.
Thylacina
Mar 16 2007, 02:18 AM
QUOTE(XSAS @ Mar 15 2007, 11:50 PM) [snapback]1584322[/snapback]
I agree with Matt, the first one does look very much like a thylacine the rear end and tail are very distinctive and I can understand the African savannah comment however many parts of Aussie look very similar to an African savannah.
Second one does look very doglike.. I can't quite make out the rear end and tail.
I took a couple of screenshots last night. They're not very good but I think if I can fix them up with paint shop pro they might come out a bit clearer. These are the ones I haven't fiddled with yet.
Luka the Rentboy
Mar 16 2007, 04:02 AM
The first video looks like a lion- and I thought that before I noticed the Savannah-esque terrain; albeit the walk and pose is somewhat strange, but that is probably because it's sneaking or something like that. The second video is quite hard to judge, but it looks like a dog-- There are no obvious stripes visible in the 1973 video, whether it's because of low-quality footage, the lighting, or because it's just a normal dog, I don't know.
isis-999
Mar 16 2007, 05:45 AM
The first one look's like a lion to me the way it move's, The second on is either a very fast dog or something moving to fast to be 100% what to call it....
Thylacina
Mar 16 2007, 10:11 AM
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Mar 16 2007, 05:45 AM) [snapback]1584709[/snapback]
The first one look's like a lion to me the way it move's, The second on is either a very fast dog or something moving to fast to be 100% what to call it....
I must've looked at the second one fifty times and I'm still not 100% sure what to call it. I've cropped and resized the screenshots I took and cleaned them up as best as I can, but they're still too blurry to distinguish. Although if you look at the one that's running very carefully, you can almost make out the stripes and the tail and the shape of the head.
Owlscrying
Mar 16 2007, 10:11 AM
Footage of the Last Thylacine” (a 1933 view of the final captive specimen of an extinct Tasmanian marsupial).
some 14 years after the zoo's last thylacine died on 13 September 1919
This individual is a female, and was the last captive thylacine outside of Australia
film clipBut stories of surviving animals persist and yearly unconfirmed sightings have turned the tiger, whose scientific name means pouched dog with a wolf's head, into a holy grail for mystery hunters from across the globe
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thanks for a very good topic !!
i feel are a few tassie tigers roaming about --
isis-999
Mar 16 2007, 10:30 AM
The second picture make's you wonder, But it's still moving to fast to be 100% sure....I wish they had the animal moving a little slower so we could get a better look at it......Also for the record i believe this animal is not extinct...
~Onyx~
Mar 16 2007, 01:23 PM
Not to sure that the existence of The Thylacine would be more of a triumph for Cryptozoologists all over the world or an inditement against the existence of other so-called cryptids like 'Ol Footy and Nessie and El Chupacabra(I can't help but feel that I get dumber everytime I say that name, lol).
Thunderbolt
Mar 16 2007, 05:08 PM
yeah the first is definitly not a Thylacine, a big cat, lion most likely but the second really does look like a Thylacine, to me at least
but heres another film of a supposed Thylacine i cant really tell with this one but it looks more canine then feline
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e4svNE40aQ...ted&search=
Raptor
Mar 16 2007, 06:18 PM
QUOTE(Mattshark @ Mar 15 2007, 11:04 PM) [snapback]1584242[/snapback]
The first one does not look like a thylacine to me, the land scape looks very much like African savannah than anything else.
There are many areas of Australia which look like African savannah:

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The second one just looks like a dog (which is more likely).
QUOTE(XSAS @ Mar 15 2007, 11:50 PM) [snapback]1584322[/snapback]
Second one does look very doglike.. I can't quite make out the rear end and tail.
The Thylacine does look like a canine, anyway.

Here's a video from 1933, of the last known Thylacine to live.
Click.
QUOTE(cia @ Mar 16 2007, 05:08 PM) [snapback]1585252[/snapback]
i cant really tell with this one but it looks more canine then feline
It isn't feline, it's a marsupial. Tasmanian
tiger is just a name, it doesn't have any relation to tigers.
snuffypuffer
Mar 16 2007, 06:34 PM
QUOTE(Onyxdk @ Mar 16 2007, 08:23 AM) [snapback]1585011[/snapback]
Not to sure that the existence of The Thylacine would be more of a triumph for Cryptozoologists all over the world or an inditement against the existence of other so-called cryptids like 'Ol Footy and Nessie and El Chupacabra(I can't help but feel that I get dumber everytime I say that name, lol).
Why would it be an idictment against the existence of other more legendary cryptids, like Squatty, for instance? Just opening a debate, here.
Thylacina
Mar 17 2007, 02:43 AM
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Mar 16 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]1584888[/snapback]
The second picture make's you wonder, But it's still moving to fast to be 100% sure....I wish they had the animal moving a little slower so we could get a better look at it......Also for the record i believe this animal is not extinct...
You and me both. I'm pretty good at drawing so maybe I can sketch a rough outline of it, that might make it easier make out.
Also, I've just been reading 'Out of the Shadows' by Tony Healy and Paul Cropper and apparently there've been sightings all over the Australia as well as Tasmania. In a cave in the Nullarbor a thylacine carcass was found sometime in the 70's and at first they thought it was about 4600 years old, but then someone else said that it was 80 years old. They reckon they'll never know how old it is but it still proves that thylacines once existed on the mainland, maybe they still do.
Kyle Rajasthan
Mar 17 2007, 03:38 AM
Greetings. The first clip: Landscape and terrain wise it could be either, the African savana or the Austrailian outback, the climate in both places is simmilar. The animal though, I am going to have to go with lion for a few reasons. Shape of the body, even color, and it seems to move in a very feline way.
The second clip: This one his harder, terrain wise could be almost anywhere, and the animal is definetly not a lion this time. It moves wrong for a feline, and it does seem to have areas on it's body that are darker, these "areas" could be stripes. The film quality is just not good enough to see for sure. It appears to have a long snout and legs, plus a long tail. The size is also correct for a Thylacine (bassed on photos I have seen of the "last known one").
So while I am not sure what it is, if I were asked to guess, I would have to say it looks like a Thylacine to me.
Good Journey.
Kyle Rajasthan.
sadistic jellyfish of doom
Mar 17 2007, 04:58 AM
The first clip is almost certainly a young lion. The second one I belive is genuine, one factor is the stiff tail. Thylacine's tails were inflexable.
Man, I havent posted here in a loooong time.
Raptor
Mar 17 2007, 08:22 PM
^Welcome back.

If it really was a Thylacine in the second video, there's still the possibility that it could have gone extinct since then.
~Onyx~
Mar 17 2007, 09:48 PM
QUOTE(snuffypuffer @ Mar 16 2007, 02:34 PM) [snapback]1585370[/snapback]
Why would it be an idictment against the existence of other more legendary cryptids, like Squatty, for instance? Just opening a debate, here.
Squatty?.....

.....what a load of s**t
Luka the Rentboy
Mar 18 2007, 12:57 AM
QUOTE(Onyxdk @ Mar 17 2007, 10:48 PM) [snapback]1587072[/snapback]
Squatty?.....

.....what a load of s**t

What is Squatty? Is it some hairy man illegally squatting buildings scheduled for demolition?
If so, I seem to have a vague memory of an encounter with such an entity in a derelict warehouse near the old waterfront powerstation nearby. It was awfully scary~
urbanlegend
Mar 18 2007, 02:33 AM
First one is almost certainly a lion- i think i read somewhere it was taken at an open range zoo in Australia? I could be wrong though.
The second one was taken in South Australia in 1973, where thylacines continue to be sighted even though they supposedly became extinct on the mainland thousands of years ago. It is possible thylacines were re-introduced from Tasmania onto the mainland in the early 1900's, and a small breeding population survives to this day. To me the video COULD be a thylacine, but its impossible to tell for sure. The tail looks stiff, not moving much as a dogs would, and its hind legs also look thylacine like. There is a suggestion of stripes on the back half of the animal in some frames also. I'm leaning towards it being a thylacine, but its far from conclusive.
itsnotoutthere
Mar 18 2007, 09:21 PM
1) Lion
2) Dingo
Spacey
Mar 19 2007, 05:07 AM
The first one looks like a lion, for sure-I'm guessing if it was in Australia, it was probably at the Western Plains zoo lol. I don't think that Tasmaina resembles the African Savannah AT ALL!
The second one is a very zippy little dog, methinks.
I'm not saying hey don't exist, in small numbers throughout the more isolated parts of the island, but i seriously doubt either of those creatures is an example of one.
organgrinder
Mar 19 2007, 06:24 AM
The first one is a lion cub. It's the same color as a lion and ambles along just the way a lion cub would, sort of clumsy but very cat-like.
The second one looks like a skinny pit bull whose tail is intact to me. It is almost undoubtedly a dog of some kind. But you never know.
Spacey
Mar 19 2007, 08:09 AM
Did anybody see this one at all?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwOMoC40q6k&NRIt's supposed to somehow resemble a thylacine, but it looks more like a mangy, malnourished Schnauzer to me... i don't know how ANYONE could think it's a tassie tiger.. the footage was so bizarre i couldn't help but laugh at it...
Laton
Mar 19 2007, 10:29 AM
QUOTE(Spacey @ Mar 19 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]1589324[/snapback]
Did anybody see this one at all?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwOMoC40q6k&NRIt's supposed to somehow resemble a thylacine, but it looks more like a mangy, malnourished Schnauzer to me... i don't know how ANYONE could think it's a tassie tiger.. the footage was so bizarre i couldn't help but laugh at it...
Same here, my first impression was a fox with a severe case of mange. The quick look you get of the face area looks a bit odd but the rest of the critter - especially the ears and body - very like a fox.
Spacey
Mar 19 2007, 11:22 AM
Yeah, i find the eyes quite fox-like... it's snout is quite round, though, in comaprison to the rest if it.. It's pretty broad, nothing like a thylacine at all.
I don't have sound, so i can't hear the guys talking, but I'll assume they are smart enough to know where TASMANIAN Tigers might exist (even if they don't know what they might look like) and propose that the poor little thing must be freezing it's butt off in the bush- it doesn't have alot of hair to keep it warm
snuffypuffer
Mar 19 2007, 05:37 PM
Ah, that's a starving dog, I'd say. Why do mangy, malnourished dogs always get pegged as some sort of bizarre spooky unknown something?
~Onyx~
Mar 19 2007, 05:54 PM
QUOTE(snuffypuffer @ Mar 19 2007, 01:37 PM) [snapback]1589791[/snapback]
Ah, that's a starving dog, I'd say. Why do mangy, malnourished dogs always get pegged as some sort of bizarre spooky unknown something?
Beacuse Joe Schmo who walks outside what is loosely described as a house is more likely to see a mangy malnourished dog than 'Ol Footy...or 'Ol Squatty....and people like that NEED to have something to talk about to break the monotony of a day filled with porn and t.v. dinners....that, and mangy malnourished koala bears are few and far between.
snuffypuffer
Mar 19 2007, 05:56 PM
Wait, my day is filled with porn and tv dinners, what are you trying to say?
~Onyx~
Mar 19 2007, 06:00 PM
QUOTE(snuffypuffer @ Mar 19 2007, 01:56 PM) [snapback]1589818[/snapback]
Wait, my day is filled with porn and tv dinners, what are you trying to say?
Who me? Nothing I just....OH LOOK!! A KOALA BEAR!!!!!
snuffypuffer
Mar 19 2007, 06:03 PM

I am appalled!
~Onyx~
Mar 19 2007, 06:09 PM
QUOTE(snuffypuffer @ Mar 19 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]1589827[/snapback]

I am appalled!
So am I, Snuffs.....so am I.
capoeiranger
Mar 20 2007, 12:37 PM
Thylacine is the only possible cryptid for me...because they should've been able to avoid extinction, given their body size and their ecological role...
Tejina: Ex Arctic Elfie
Mar 21 2007, 02:35 AM
I thought the second one was a dog. It ran like the sled dogs I had, when they weren't pulling a sled.
Though both bits of footage are impressive.
capoeiranger
Mar 21 2007, 02:54 AM
Hahaha...most of us agreed that it was a dog...
Schnaffler
Apr 14 2007, 04:57 PM
Here's a different version of the second clip...
http://www.naturalworlds.org/thylacine/nat...story/TM000.mpgat first I thought dog, but there's something not quite right to me.
Schnaff x
Tia
Apr 14 2007, 11:31 PM
schnaff the link wouldn't work.
The first one was definitely lion like while the second one had the lope of a running dog. Still it would be good to see the other bit of video on the second one.
Schnaffler
Apr 15 2007, 07:52 PM
Whoops, sorry!
Try this...
http://www.naturalworlds.org/thylacine/nat...sightings_1.htmthen scroll down and click on the video link highlighted in red.
Schnaff x
Tia
Apr 15 2007, 11:13 PM
Watching the second footage again, you could see more colour etc. I don't know what it is but I wouldn't discount that it could be a tassie tiger.
Illiniblue35
Apr 15 2007, 11:26 PM
any recent sightings in austrailia?
secondhand
Apr 16 2007, 12:46 PM
I like them, I hope they're still around.
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