Son, I noticed you ignored that this happens all the time it doesn't matter what path you are on... This is a discussion forum, if we are engaging in a converstation its too explore all possible perspectives, arent' you here to learn from me too Son???

so what do you make of this that this is a common occurance to anyone even to kids my kids have this happen all the time...I am not saying you can't believe its god if you choose what ever works for you.....what is threatening about this idea to you????

what I wonder is are you just wantiong to be offended all the time or are you here to discuss, the skeptics side is for that amoungst other things to challenge ourselves to really dissect things , you don't have to change your beliefs..To often ts seems to become about whos feelings are hurt today..

Listen in all fairness are you open to a converstaion wtih me or not??I dont care if you belive in god ......

What did you think of my story would you like to hear more I have millions of them.............

And also take note that God doesnt just speak with Christians but also speaks to non believers. Sheri this is your belief as well as we have our beliefs but it DOES make sense that God could have been the one giving comfort in such a horrible times. You can call it what you want but God CAN speak with unbelievers.....how would you suppose, from a christian point of view, that a person be saved?...through the witness of His Spirit and the witness of His word. That being said, God has to speak to an unbeliever before they can become a believer as God has done to ALL christians at one point and time....it makes perfect sense to me but you are entitled to your belief and no one is asking that it be changed.

Edited for spelling

Why did you assume I was offended? You gave me your view of what I wrote and I responded. I chose not to debate the issue with you because it's clear that you and I just will not agree on this. I think hairston gave a good response. Just because non-believers experience similar things does not mean it's not God. The only difference as I see it is that I realize this is God while a non-believer is unable to.

Right on. They believe that there is a natural reason for all things.

Edit: And also even Antony Flew, one of the greatest champion atheists of His time, changed his views to a theist from the evidence of fine tuning and science. He considered it folly to not believe in a God and no his beliefs arent in the christian god. Just look him up in wiki or I can send the link of his interview if anyone is interested.

Actually, I usually re-read anything I write before I post it. It was not my intent to come across as cocky. Really all that my response indicated was what I see as the reason Sheri and I don't see this event in the same way.

Sheri,

You just aren't getting the point...

I AM a skeptic, I've had things go on in my life that I cannot explain... however, I don't readily attribute those things to God though.

Life happens. There's no denying that... it's the emotional comfort and guidance that I receive from God that assists me in living my life. Until you choose to exprience God, you will not understand--there would be no way for you to understand. 4,000,000 posts here on UM would not help you to understand. I KNOW people who have experienced God without being Christian. Why? Because I believe most fervently that EVERYONE has the Holy Spirit within them it's just a matter of whether they choose to hear it or not. You simply choose not to hear it. Therefore you will never understand what we Christians (and others) are talking about. I'm not saying that it's bad that you won't hear what is inside you, it is your choice to not hear it and God gave you freewill to not hear. That's ok, it doesn't even mean you are damned... not at all. It just means that you will never understand something as ethereal as God.

It's really as simple as that.

I Maybe what can be said is Sheri doesn't relate to your understanding when you claim to speak in such ways, about your understanding of your god .

Dear Sheri, I can't see you really missing out on anything there. Indeed knowing what I know of you, you couldn't even begin to relate.
(p.s. That's not a bad thing, from the sound of it. )

Ah but i do understand i understand that there are many ways to interperet god, God has many meanings , it is a term used to mean many things, some call this life some don't call it anything at all, what you are missing , miss wells, Son and hairstom , is that these voices in your head are common to any one, these knowings what do you suppose self realization is all about or athiesm ??? this is natural, to anyone this is life, i understand that you call this god and diefy this I have no issue with this, what I'm suggesting here is this is experinced and common and natural to anyone INCLUDING, NB's, pagans, satanists, taosits, buddhists, diests and christians and mormons and Catholics , metaphysical beleivers, Athiests, GIDeon, jewish ... etc, this is not a exclusive experince to have a holy spirit ( a whole human operating on three levels) or an intuition there are as many names for this as their are people ..... Were you not aware of this????? dogmas do this they limit our understandings....

many of us have been telling you over and over in many ways that there is no such thing as exclsuivity or 'specialness' you are buying into a dogma a ahrmful one at taht its harmful inthe sense it has lead you to beleive you need to be a certain way to be favored..and blah blah We ahve only been tryingot help by sharing our understnadings not upset you or offend you, we ahchave been trying to bridge the gap that dogma creates....It is you who do not undersand.......We are all the same my freinds thats what you aren't seeing...I get this.... If you think you have the inside scoop on something you are in error....LOL....god is unique to all you don't have to believe in god to experince life or any part of it or know things or be gudied etc... its natural to being human I call it intution our 6th sense....certainly create myths around this if its your trip, but never lose sight its not jsut happening to you LOL....

Sheri, I think you'll enjoy this. It's an observation of the spirit of consciousness. God, as some would say, is alive in faith.

"The physics of consciousness and existence. An energy-releasing star can be deterministically calculated from the immutable cause-and-effect of existence without conscious influences. All existence is ultimately controlled and evolved through volitional human consciousness. Unknown to the busily self-serving Establishment, the nature of existence and its dynamics of matter and energy are today being increasingly understood and methodically verified. That verification process will lead to the corollary verification that human consciousness is the eternal integrator and controller of existence. ...Human
consciousness ultimately controls the relationships and geometries of the other existence modes -- matter and energy along with space and
time. The human-consciousness mode is the purposeful, unmoved mover of existence."

thanks GW, yes yes yes, the new science is on the verge of helping us understand what i am saying what we all have shared with each other, on the board, in freindship that WE ARE ALL ONE.... re-membering ....
ing love the new sciences Quantum mecahnics in particular is about to rock our world and how excitiing , gods will be a thing of the past LOL......We will be as one , natural biengs not trumped up ideas of men who didn't know any better.....thanks my friend.....

MissMels

Let sheri have her discussion with IAMS...she is learning from him and if she feels he should hear her out too, then whats the harm??? I cant see the harm in it

She respects IAMS for his beliefs...if she didn't, she would ignore him completely...but obviously she is keen on learning where he is coming from.

If you personally quote my post and address me...and I didnt so much as reply to you..that would be rude of me...it's decent to at least aknowledge someone...dont you agree??

She does understand God...didnt you know she was once raised as a christian?? So was I lol...not its not as if we havent been there and done that...but we are here to learn a lil more

I say if her and IAMS wanna talk it out..just let them be..no one is going to thank you for taking their side

Anyhoo...im just saying is all...

This is starting to get tiresome.



Go back and read what I said VERY carefully...I even capitalized some words to make them clear.

From the Quaker FAQ:

Quakers have no set creed or dogma - that means we do not have any declared statements which you have to believe to be a Quaker. There are, however, some commonly held views which unite us. One accepted view is that there is that of God (or the spirit or divine) in all people and that each human being is of unique worth. This shared belief leads Quakers to value all people and to oppose anything that harms or threatens them.




My dear, collect yourself. you're going down the wrong path with me about dogma and creeds and in fact about doctorine as well. I did not say I had an inside scoop, in fact, I suggested that EVERYONE has the inside scoop. Really read this post and my last post very carefully. I'm getting the feeling you want to pick on me because I'm a stated Christian, and I feel you haven't really considered what I've said.

WOW thats the 1st time I have ever read a christians post that reads - God doesnt just speak to christians...he also speaks to non christians.....awsome and might I add well said...that was kind of you...indeed very kind

It was a three way conversation... you missed that part. Pot, Kettle, Black.

BM, none of us were born Christian, so it sort of stands to reason that we heard God's voice before we were Christians. If anything now we just hear it more clearly or are less confused about what it is we are "hearing."

Ok Sheri, let's put a full stop to this for a second before you make any more assumptions and accusations about my beliefs.

I'd love for you to take a quick look at this Web page, and let me know if there is anything there that you don't see as reasonable... it's so short, it'll take you less than 2 minutes to read:

Quaker FAQ

Now, if that piqued your interest, there is a VERY in-depth FAQ on Usenet as well--this will take about 15 minutes to read and has a lot of historical data.

Usenet FAQ from soc.religion.quaker

Let's see if that takes care of the issue. No dogma, no creeds, no set standards, other than the vast majority identify as Christian.

All in all... your good friend Beckys_Mom would probably most closely identify with Quakers than any other Christian organization. Becky, you might want to read this as well... you might find it very interesting.

I paid the guy a compliment...and I said it was the 1st time I meaning just ME myself and I...have ever read that from a christian....now I sure hope that dont bother you IAMS? Because for well over a year now, on this forum, I have only ever read a christians post that says how God speaks to them...I have a couple of times..and on my lil ones life...hear some say...he only speaks to christians..and soon in came the non christians and said ...so he only speaks to you IF you are saved then ..wtf?? trust me I know what i read

Now on that note...IF on the off chance a christian has at one point said he speaks to us all...then sorry I might have missed it....understand me IAMS?? hope so

Geeesh..thats the second time this month..I have paid a christian guy a nice compliment ...and been at one time jumped on and attack by someone that lets on they totally respect christians but finds it so easy to attack me for complimenting a christians quote...and now look I say this..ok not so much attacked ..but I didnt have to be quoted either LOL it was NO BIGGIE

Whats next...is it going to get to a stage where a non christian like me..cant pay a christian a compliment out of goodness...without being quoted or in like that other sad case attacked for it???

CRIKEY

Becky, Ive said exactly that so many times I can't count it so perhaps you can understand my frustration.

No, not bothered at all, BM, I was just building on what you said.

MissWells...it is fustrating very much so...

That guy hairston is such a lovely guy...I do in fact pay FULL attention to all his posts...I pick up such a vibe from him that to me INO sounds so sweet and true in what hebelieves in...Jor-el is the same and one or two others...I dont have to be a christian to pay a christian a nice compliment do I??

Im not baised...I dont want to be negative all the time

No one makes me post nice things...I do it if I FEEL I want to...

I think its really nice to have someone show a lil bit of understanding and appreciation...dont you agree??

Heck if I paid you full compliments and got attack for it...dont you think that would be rude?? sure would

IAMS didnt attack me but he quoted me telling me stuff about my compliment to hairston...gee it was just a nice compliment is all

I would hate to think that, it would one day get to a point, that a non christian like me cant pay a compliment without being attacked or quoted

I was attacked a couple of weeks ago on here..litterly attacked for saying something nice to a christian...by someone that likes everyone to believe they are respectful towards religious beliefs....frankly from their sad lil attacks..I dont believe it for a split second...but its long behind me now

Thank you BM

Your most welcome hairston

miss wells do not look for insults where none are intended, I really get you aren't 'christain ' christian, you are quaker 'christain'....It is very clear that you do not want to be seen as dogmatic.... noted....but if i may when you speak on sons behalf who is a' christian' christian' it sends mixed signals either you aren't sure of what you are or feeling he needs to be protected, you say this is what he means then I include you and you say oh no I'm not fundamental It seems you are on the fence< if i may have a stance and stand in it ... .......son is clear about his stance i respect that immensly I don't have to agree to respect him he deserves my respect in my opinion but it doesn't mean i have to agree.... him and i have our go arounds and have had for months we rarely agree,i don't think we ever have actually agreed have we son???, and you know what its okay people who disagree can have a relationship too i have dear freinds that we don't agree on anything but we love each other..... finally ( takes a deep breath ) back on topic....

II'll look at it no problem, but what BM chooses is what works best for her and as it is she has a personal relationship with the god of her understanding and last i heard they are quite the pals, she stays away form any limits( not that this is limiting) but she is more of a innovative, unique sort of irish gal who prefers to decide how her and god are gonna have a relationship, if you knew her being unequal or having to follow a bunch of rules wouldn't work for her ....she will be glad to share with you her realtionship.......

I think what you're seeing Sheri, is that despite having different views (I'm very conservative and she's very liberal), Mels and I are still both people who see Christianity as a spiritual journey, not a set of rules to be followed. So, she and I understand each other quite well, and consider each other to be siblings spiritually. So far, when she has responded to posts addressed to me, she has done a good job, not because she thinks I need defending but because when it comes to our spiritual walk, we're on the same path.

Sheri, that was an unfortunate comment, I let it pass the 1st time but I rather think that, you shouldn't be so eager to simply brush off these personal experiences as some form of self delusion or ESP as you implied in your previous message. Could it be that, maybe, the simple truth that God really works through people and does do it in the way I described previously sets you back a little?

Whether you choose to believe it, is really up to you, I'm certainly not out to convert you from your pet belief system. God works in the way I described but is not limited to such actions, he does things the way he thinks best whether you accept that affirmation or not. If he chose to use me in the situation I described then so be it, who am I to complain, that's his perrogitive, since I am his servant, and happy to be so.

As for your opening statement, do you jump at every cahnce to confud«se things or is that merely a subconcious urge that gets the better of you?

My answer in the correct context is quite clear don't twist it to your own ends. Thanks.



So that there is no doubt to what was being said I pasted the relevant material above. Anybody who has studied or even erad about multidimensional physics, can see clearly the point I was trying to make.

A 2 dimensional being can only percieve things in those two dimensions (x, y axis). If we draw a circle on a piece of paper and we theoretically put a 2 dimensional being within that circle in a 2 dimensional world, that being would be trapped because he would literally have an unclimable wall surrounding him on all sides (the circle we drew).

We as 3 dimensional beings can see a way out of that circle that is not available to the 2 dimensional being because we can always reach inside and free that being. That would in effect make us godlike in that 2 dimensional beings thoughts.

If we extrapolate from this analogy, we can see that we ourselves are limited by a 3 dimensional universe (x, y, z axis). We can also seemingly experience a fourth dimensional part of this 3 dimensional world which to our senses we call time. That is why we call this plane of physical existence, the space time continuum.

See: Spacetime for a clearer and more complicated explanation.

Or you can go to Wikipedia: Space-time Continuum

Now, if God exists in a higher order dimension, he cannot only manipulate space and time but all matter in that lower dimension, he is above and outside of space-time but can be anywhere within it at will. This is why we have the concepts of omniscience, omnipresence and omnipotence. They are characteristics of a higher order dimensional existence to our own.

Yet just as a 2 dimensional being cannot identify our presence because he is limited to 2 dimensions, we cannot prove the existence of God who is part of a higher order of existence. We are essintially and simply limited to our 3 dimensional universe, we call the Space time Continuum.

Finally, to answer you most undelicate question, no I'm not a preacher, I work in banking.

thankyou, i resepct that i too understand friendships as that and enjoy a few myself ..I feel hyper is the yang to my yin and we speak for each other alot and Bm and i feel we are soul sisters and hog the air waves and joey and i feel we are twin siblings,....With that being said i am delighted you have found a kinship both of you.....((HUGS)))

Yes! I'm a Quaker Christian... I guess. I actually tend to call myself a Protestant, but Quaker Christian works too.

Just like Catholics are Catholic Christians, Methodist Christians, Presbyterian Christians, Lutheran Christians, non-denominational Christians, Amish Christians... etc...

Also, I haven't spoken for IamsSon... I've said that some of our beliefs are similar, that's all. When I've mentioned anything it's generally because I'm supporting (and even questioning) his viewpoint, that's what forums are about.

And...since you are now speaking for Becky (pot, kettle, black), I just said that I thought she might find the material interesting, that's all. As far as I know, there are no Quaker Meetings in Ireland anywhere, converting people is something I am absolutely dead against anyway--there's no need to get anyone on my bandwagon. I just thought that she'd find it interesting that it's similar to what she does believe and there aren't any rules at all. And you're free to take or leave the Quaker lifestyle choices as you see fit. So maybe you should let Becky respond to the site I posted if she would like to. She's a big girl.

Jor, You are not ever responsible for anyone else approving how your live your life.

They will most often percieve you from their point of view anyway. And how can they know where you live?

i have said on many posts on this thread in particular 'god' means many things its a generic term used in just that fashion, some don't use it at all and yet feel a commune with life .......What we beleif most often becomes our experience of 'god' /life science is on the. verge of discovering this .i was having a converstation with you adding to it , sahring my ideas , so you don't like my opinion and have decide its an insult to you i am not insulted ....is there someem reason you can't say thats kool i don't see god that way but if you do kudos too you?????You had a grand oppurtunity to dialoge and commune with another soul and this is your choice okay... i have no reason to mock you..i said i have heard of this many times....it seems to be a common experince....I miss the issue with this....if this is your experieince kool .....

Sheri, I don't have problem communing with you, and I like you. I feel that at times it is difficult to understand what it is you are trying to transmit, simply due to the fact that I can't quite get the hang of your thought process.

That said, it was not my intention to come off irritated or upset in my previous post but, according to the context and wording of your post I identified two undercurrents of sarcasm.



and



Can you see how I reached my conclusion?

MW son has made it very clear that you and him are kindred spirits, this is new info and since recieving it i posted all the best to you both....BM and I have been sisters for almost 2 years , its common knowldege here...LOL now it seems you and son are journeying together I have nothing but respect for this......

BM and I do speak on behalf of each other, with full permission from the other..... as it seems you and son will do lol ......

You couldn't be more wrong.

There you went making baseless accusations and assumptions again. Geeze woman.

I missed this by mistake

The Religious Society of Friends <--is what I picked up from that site you posted....thanks for it...but I would like to take this oppourtunity to tell you...I never heard of a quaker...they arent known here

I do not (after reading who they are)..I do NOT class myself as one...Just because I follow my version of God...doesnt mean I am part of any group...please understand it nor do I identify with them......................BUT...and I MEAN BUT..........they sound WONDERFUL ..I am GLAD you took the time to post it...pity you didnt make a thread on it..giving everyone a chance to read it...cuz heck for all I know MissMels..I may not have been the only one that never heard of them..and im serious

Now if you are a person, that respects peoples faiths...and I say you would do...........then MissMels...you will respect the fact that I dont class myself as anything...I have a PERSONAL belief that I chose...the rules...are my own...the prayers are MY OWN...I wish to remain as no one but as me GERI..aka BM...I dont believe in belonging to a group ..ie in this case a quaker group

I dont believe anyone has a right..to stick a lable on me...pretty much like you just have.saying I identify with them..there was no harm in that I guess...maybe you just thought I did...and heck where the harm eh??
...If you asked me do I see myself as one??? then I would answer you and tell you moe about my beliefs...but like you said MissMels...yes I am a big girl..I can speak for myself then that I WILL do..................................so...I am telling you I dont belong to any group of people....I belong to no one....now if you dont like it and dont wish to respect my belifs...thats your own choice...but when you say....you respect beliefs, I would HATE to think you would only pick and chose what ones to respect

Sound fair??
Thank you for the link anyway...now that I remember yes quaker was also a name brand for oatmeal ceral back in the early 80's when I was just a child lol

all this from a guy, meaning still waters run deep, wow sort of thanks for sharing...is what that meant

the second part is sor tof to me that i was close on my vibe, i actually like your posts....

Why would you assume the most negative if i may ask??/i'm glad you asked becasue you were a bit off.....I don't care if you are christian,You seem like a kool guy to me a good man a loving hubby form what I've read.....


Us NB's are sharing our ideas on things of course they are way diffenrt but we figure if you are here in this part you have to find it as interesting as we do, it goes without being said no matter who you are there are some really original ideas here, some really kool people , people are living lifes on their terms and sharing that...I don't know why so many christians get offended so easily......i hope I am clearing some things up...



take Bm she has forged her own ideas, defines god on her terms.. gets along with anyone she's literally fascinating, or GW she has shed more light on Athiesm then ever before and great articles, a great mind hands down her writng is amazing a weatlth of info and really very positive and kind and turns things into a positive she has a great mind...none writes as GW she is like eating a buttery muffin her words are so rich in meaning.....


Or Hyper wow he has ideas noone has and they are kool as can be, I have learned more form htis gyuy htan i ever thought possible.... and he has a great understanding of human nature and loves to share this....

Or pa he loves the bible and shares this he loves learning about it and discussing it he really trys to see from many angles...

or KBA he has a amazing insight he is 15 years old.... or texas she is so couragous she really challenges herself, and wants to see others side....
Or Joey he really gets one questioning and he's fair....
I could go on and on but you get my point ...why not we delight in each other instead of look for insults.....

What did I say that led you to this assumption?

Sheri, when I said Mels and I were "spiritual siblings" I was referring to the idea that since we're Christians we're "Brothers (and sisters) in Christ," just like texasgirlheather, jor-el, PA, Irish... and a whole bunch of others who see Christ as their Savior. You may have noticed that PA and I sometimes answer for each other... when we're certain that the opinion we're giving is one which is held by most Christians. I would never presume to answer for Mels if it was a personal issue, or if it was a question dealing with her Quaker beliefs, because we don't share those in common.

WOW observant LOL thats me to a T LOL thank you sheri...it was you that inspired me to post how I REALLY feel...brought out my real feelings...I tell it how I see it....and im proud of being ME..


KBA is 15??? WOW he is very much mature for a 15 yr old...good guy

miss wells please do not tell me this is seen as offensive to you now???? son jsut posted saying you are kindred spirits..... ooookay........ did i miss read ....



I think what you're seeing Sheri, is that despite having different views (I'm very conservative and she's very liberal), Mels and I are still both people who see Christianity as a spiritual journey, not a set of rules to be followed. So, she and I understand each other quite well, and consider each other to be siblings spiritually. So far, when she has responded to posts addressed to me, she has done a good job, not because she thinks I need defending but because when it comes to our spiritual walk, we're on the same path. this is what son posted ...

I take this to mean you are freinds and will be speaking for each other at times..


I beleive men and women can be friends, so i would of taken it in that tone.....

it sounds as if you are really good freinds doesnt it too You?????

I read it too .........................beer anyone??

Maybe because I had a bad experience with posts between us, this put me on the defensive. If I remember correctly it had something to do with feminism and being feminine. Maybe BM can reacall the issue, although it isn't really important.

I try not to assume the most negative generally, which is why I am especially careful of how I phrase things. I think things through before I write them so that the purest and clearest form of my intent is shown in my words. I may subjectively expect others to behave in the same way.

I am especially sensitive to sarcasm. This is probably something I have to work on, but I have no tolerence for sarcastic people. If people have something to say they should come right out and say it not disguise their insults with innocuous wording and phrases with double meanings. Not that I'm accusing you of such, I'm simply speaking in general terms.

It can be hard dealing with sarcasm Jor...but I learnt, over time...that once I threw sarcasm back...it no longer offended me as much as it used to

But saying that...I prefer to use at most times..humour in my sarcasm..like in a way I dont aim to hurt anyone....cuz when you are just typing some words in a post...its hard to know what that person really means...in how they have worded it...its much easier to understand them, while talking verbally face to face...this I know

thats why I post a lot of funny smilies...and type LOL <--letting others know I am just messing no harm done

i remember that thread but I was under the assumption we were kool.... i am candid and direct and blunt...you don't have to change who you are i understand you alot better I'm glad we spoke.... , I will let you know if I think you are full of BS.and vice versa okay....... I asked if you were a preacher because you attended a theology seminary correct..i find that to be interresting and I bet you are a hoot to talk with .I have a real upbeat personality i love people simple as that i think everyone has something to teach...... what a better one to learn about the bibile then one who went to the school you did.... i can appreciate your Pov., i do appreciate it .......LOL


sticks out hands friends????

So you are such great friends...aww


See I always thought...or should I say was taught...that we are ALL (not just christians) but all god children...correct?? or is that just those that class themselves a chrsitain??

IMO we are ALL (those of us that believe in it)...God children....leaving no one out....now tsk tsk IAMS...me thought you knew that...but wait..is it because BM here is not a follower of christ?? so she can be the black sheep?? LOL or seen as a third cousin twice removed?? LMAO

So is it just christians?? just asking....not getting at ya

I didn't say you were one, I just suggested that you would probably identify. It's different.

BNW has made several threads on Quakers, he's fascinated too because he is in Australia and had never heard of them either. He's the reason I started posting here, because of his Quaker threads.

I know there are no Quaker meetings in Ireland (although there is a large community in England) , there are in fact very few in the USA. As I suggested in my post, I thought you might find it interesting, nothing more, nothing less and that you might even identify. I'm pleased that you read the short FAQ and found it interesting. That's all I was seeking.

And ya, that danged oatmeal guy... *sigh* hahaha, Quaker Oatmeal is produced by the General Mills company who is based in Pennsylvania USA, the Quaker people founded that state in the 1700's and it is still called the "Quaker State." Hence, General Mills uses the name, but Friends have nothing to do with the product. That oatmeal guy causes us so much trouble hahah. Funny thing is, there are very few Quakers left in Pennsylvania antmore.

I agree that we are all God's children and, therefore all brothers and sisters, however, I was referring to the fact that Christians consider each other brothers and sisters in Christ.

son unless you make that clear as by the second post i really took it to mean you are very good freinds, you used 'mel' spiritaul siblings everything indicated this is personal.... , i would of had no reason to think is was so impersonal based on that post..this one its clear.... .....In this case it was the way you worded it.....Out of resepct to miss wells its good to see you clearing this up.....

They prolly still make Quaker aotmeal porridge over here...it had a pic of a man on the front of the box, wearing a hat...thats all I can recall....but since I dont eat porridge...I dont notice it...but next time I am out shopping ill look for it...my mom used to buy it..along with kiddie porridge for me and my bro..(Ready Break)

The only porridge that tastes good is the one I buy for my lil girl LOL Farleys peachy porridge LOL

Now dont go telling me there is a Farleys religious group now too LOL or my kid will wind up with no breakfast anymore LMAO..OMG im so kidding with you about that lol


BUT about making a thread...making other aware...its a good idea...just a thought

Glad I could be of assistance.

So I am a black sheep then LOL...a third cousin twice removed LOL ok i'll go with that

Friends.

I'm glad we ironed out our little differences.

Brothers and sister huh? I am glad im not in that group...WHY??? I would hate to forget someones birthday...


LOL just kidding with ya..I know what you meant