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Here is just a list of things about 9/11 which left me in total disbelief later sparking me to further investigate and research for myself. Perhaps if you read about some these oddities you may also do the same.

*1: Muhammad Atta during the time up to Sept 11 2001 or days before, was wired 100,000 dollars from the head of the Pakistani ISI General Mahmoud Ahmed, through Omar Sheikh, a British-born Islamist militant, who allegedly committed the murder of Daniel Pearl which was later proved to be false. The said general was also in Washington on the morning of Sept 11 having breakfast meetings with Republican Congressman Porter Gross and Democratic Senator Bob Graham. They were all in Washington together discussing Osama bin Laden over breakfast when the attacks of September 11, 2001, happened.
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Mahmoud's involvement in September 11 might be dismissed as only Indian propaganda. But Indian intelligence swears by it, and the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has confirmed the whole story: Indian intelligence even supplied Saeed's cellular-phone numbers. Nobody has bothered to check what really happened.
Link: Asia Times Alleged Connection to 9/11

*2:Bush Sr. met with Osama's brother. On 11 September, while Al-Qaeda's planes slammed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the Carlyle Group hosted a conference at a Washington hotel. Among the guests of honour was a valued investor: Shafig bin Laden, brother to Osama. Link:Dark Heart Of America

*3:Bush took FBI agents off Laden family trail. "The report, which the bbc claimed was based on a secret fbi document, numbered "199iwf213589" and emanating out of the fbi’s washington field office, alleged that the cynicism of the american establishment and "connections between the cia and saudi arabia and the bush men and bin ladens" may have been the real cause of the deaths of thousands in the world trade centre attacks. the investigation, which featured in the bbc’s leading current affairs programme, newsnight , said the fbi was told to "back off" investigating one of osama bin laden’s brothers, abdullah, who was linked to "the saudi-funded world association of muslim youth (wamy), a suspected terrorist organisation," whose accounts have still not frozen by the us treasury despite "being banned by pakistan some weeks ago and india claiming it was linked to an organisation involved in bombing in kashmir". newsnight said there was a long history of "shadowy" american connections with saudi arabia, not least the two presidents bush’s "business dealings" with the bin ladens and another more insidious link revealed by the former head of the american visa section in jeddah." Link: The Times of India London Guardian

*4:CIA agent alleged to have met Bin Laden in July. Two months before September 11 Osama bin Laden flew to Dubai for 10 days for treatment at the American hospital, where he was visited by the local CIA agent, according to the French newspaper Le Figaro.The disclosures are known to come from French intelligence which is keen to reveal the ambiguous role of the CIA, and to restrain Washington from extending the war to Iraq and elsewhere.Bin Laden is reported to have arrived in Dubai on July 4 from Quetta in Pakistan with his own personal doctor, nurse and four bodyguards, to be treated in the urology department. While there he was visited by several members of his family and Saudi personalities, and the CIA. Link: The Guardian

*5: All of the five alleged Flight 77 hijackers lived in a motel right outside the gates of the NSA w00t.gif -- the U.S.'s most powerful spy agency in which it's 38,000 employees are sworn to a lifetime of secrecy.. In fact, one of the most bizarre ironies of all this is that five of the hijackers lived in a motel right outside the gates of the NSA. Early on the morning of 11 September, when Hani Hanjour and his four accomplices left the Valencia Motel on US route 1 on their way to Washington's Dulles airport, they joined the stream of NSA employees heading to work. Three hours later, they had turned flight 77 around and slammed it into the Pentagon. Ha! Priceless!........ Link: BBC

*6:Before the Pentagon was hit, Pentagon medic Matt Rosenberg was studying a new MASCAL emergency disaster plan which is based on the unlikely scenario of an airplane crashing into the Pentagon. Also:Emergency equipment for the Pentagon's MASCAL emergency plane crash plans were already out of their storage areas for an inventory check before the Pentagon was hit. Links: Washington Post

*7:Bernard Brown Jr., a young passenger on Flight 77 that was participating in a field trip, gets a lecture from his father about dying before his flight. His father tells him "don't be afraid to die because we all are going to die someday." Bernard's father, Navy Chief Petty Officer Bernard Brown Sr., takes a "rare day off" from work that day to play golf. Bernard's dad works at the Pentagon. He works in the same wing of the Pentagon that was hit by hijacked Flight 77.

*8: Donald Rumsfeld is in his office at the Pentagon talking about missile defense and the risk of terrorism and predicts there will be a terrorist attack two minutes before the first plane crashes into the WTC."Inside, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld had some people in to talk about missile defense and the risk that terrorism seen in the past would happen again. “Let me tell ya,” he said, “I’ve been around the block a few times. There will be another event.” Two minutes later, a plane smashed into the first World Trade Center tower and proved him right."

*9:WTC janitor William Rodriguez was working in the basement area of the North Tower when he hears a large explosion from the floors below him seconds before the first plane crashes into the top of the building, rescues a fellow worker who is severely burnt from the blast below, and also hears various explosions from the 20th trough the 30th floors included the 34th floor which was completely empty due to a "construction project".

*10: WTC worker Mike Pecoraro and a co-worker, who were in the basement of the North Tower, see "white smoke" begin to fill the room after a loud explosion and believes a bomb went off in the basement floors above him after he witnesses that the machine shop on Level C was totally destroyed and a 50 ton hydraulic press there was "gone," sees that the parking garage the floor above had been totally destroyed, and sees that both lobbies of the North and South Towers were heavily damaged too.

*11:A team from the CIA and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), who operate many of the US's spy satellites and are located about four miles from Dulles Airport where Flight 77 would take off from, had planned to begin an exercise to simulate a plane crashing into one of its buildings.Source

*12:Five young men set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack then where witnessed on top of a white van celebrating afterward before later being arrested and identified as Israeli citizens -- some later found to be Israeli spies -- with one saying upon being arrested: "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem." They were found with large amounts of cash, a box cutter, multiple foreign passports, maps linking them to the blasts, a bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if detecting explosives in their van, and when the FBI seized and developed their photos, one showed the driver flicking a cigarette lighter in front of the smoldering ruins in an apparently celebratory gesture. Source

13*:Fiduciary Trust, located in the south tower, had scheduled an emergency drill for the day. City Releases Tapes of 911 Calls From Sept. 11 Attack "Just before the south tower collapsed at 9:59 a.m., a spurt of calls reached the 911 operators. One of these was from Shimmy Biegeleisen, who worked for Fiduciary Trust in the south tower on computer systems. He was on the 97th floor where, by chance, an emergency drill had been scheduled for that day." - NY Times (03/31/06)

*14:In May of 2001, by presidential order, Cheney was handed direct control of all wargame and drill operations. This meant he was solely in charge of the overlapping NORAD drills and wargames on the morning of 9/11, that prevented Standard Operating Procedure from being implemented, and any of the hijacked planes being intercepted. Drills taking place on the morning of 9/11 : OPERATION NORTHERN VIGILANCE, BIOWARFARE EXERCISE TRIPOD II,OPERATION VIGILANT GUARDIAN,OPERATION NORTHERN GUARDIAN,OPERATION VIGILANT WARRIOR.

*15:After being told "America is under attack" Bush sat still,unwavering,and read his pet goat story to the kids......like a jackass. Next lol

16*:As an airplane approaches Washington D.C. area, a young man enters the Presidential Emergency Operating Center (PEOC) where Vice President Cheney and Transportation Sect. Norman Mineta are at and tells Cheney, "The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out. The plane is 10 miles out," and then asks him "Do the orders still stand?" in which Cheney turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?" The defualt order would have been to shoot down the plane, but that didnt happen. And why would those in charge of the shoot down order ask Dick Cheney do the orders to shoot down the plane stand if at that point in time the in air fighter jet wasnt capable of shooting it down?? What Im getting at is, if there was a fighter plane in range able to shoot down the plane heading towards the pentagon, why would those in control ask Cheney did the orders to shoot it down still stood(defualt) if they couldnt shoot the plane down? If it wasnt in range to shoot it down, why ask? The plane didnt get shot down though so what order was given? Stand down....apperently. Note* Norman Mineta resigns one day after Jim Fetzer tells Hannity & Colmes about his 9/11 Commission testimony)

*17:Experienced air traffic controllers thought that the alleged Boeing 757 that was flying towards the Pentagon flew like a "military jetfighter." ‘Get These Planes on the Ground’, Air Traffic Controllers Recall Sept. 11

"The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane," says O'Brien. "You don't fly a 757 in that manner. It's unsafe."
"And it went six, five, four. And I had it in my mouth to say, three, and all of a sudden the plane turned away. In the room, it was almost a sense of relief. This must be a fighter. This must be one of our guys sent in, scrambled to patrol our capital, and to protect our president, and we sat back in our chairs and breathed for just a second," says O'Brien. But the plane continued to turn right until it had made a 360-degree maneuver." - ABC (10/24/01)

On Flight 77: 'Our Plane Is Being Hijacked'
"But just as the plane seemed to be on a suicide mission into the White House, the unidentified pilot executed a pivot so tight that it reminded observers of a fighter jet maneuver."-Washington Post (9/12/01)
Primary Target
"New radar evidence obtained by CBS News strongly suggests that the hijacked jetliner which crashed into the Pentagon hit its intended target."
"But the jet, flying at more than 400 mph, was too fast and too high when it neared the Pentagon at 9:35. The hijacker-pilots were then forced to execute a difficult high-speed descending turn."
"Radar shows Flight 77 did a downward spiral, turning almost a complete circle and dropping the last 7,000 feet in two-and-a-half minutes."
"The steep turn was so smooth, the sources say, it's clear there was no fight for control going on. And the complex maneuver suggests the hijackers had better flying skills than many investigators first believed." - CBS (9/21/01)

*18:Flight 77 is allegedly flown into the Pentagon by 28 year old Saudi Arabian Hani Hanjour who has never flown a Boeing 757 in real life, was described by many of his former flight instructors as a "horrible pilot," is the only alleged hijacker to not have a passenger number or seat assignment, is thought that he might not have had a ticket to get on board the plane, and was unable to rent a single-engine Cessna 172 one month before the attacks because he had trouble controlling and landing it during a flight test.

"Staff members characterized Mr. Hanjour as polite, meek and very quiet. But most of all, the former employee said, they considered him a very bad pilot.
"I'm still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon," the former employee said. "He could not fly at all." - New York Times (05/04/02)

"I couldn't believe he had a commercial license of any kind with the skills that he had." Peggy Chevrette, Arizona flight school manager - CBS (05/10/02)

"His name [Hani Hanjour] was not on the American Airlines manifest for the flight because he may not have had a ticket." - Washington Post Washington Post

*19: Within minutes of the explosion at the Pentagon, the FBI confiscates security videos that had captured the crash from a nearby gas station and hotel. Hmmm....I wonder why....

*20:Somerset county coroner Wallace Miller, who was working at the crash site of allegedly Flight 93, said it looked as if someone took a scrap truck, dug a 10-foot ditch and dumped trash into it, said there was nothing visible of human remains and that it was as if the plane had "stopped and let the passengers off before it crashed," and also said that the most eerie thing about the site was that he hadn't seen a "single drop of blood" there. Miller says, "I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there. It became like a giant funeral service."

*21:The commander of NORAD says he didn't receive the presidential order to shoot down any of the hijacked planes until after Flight 93 crashed and the 9/11 Commission report confirms NORAD didn't get this order until 28 minutes after the crash.

"[Maj. Gen. Larry] Arnold also said that his unit did not receive the presidential order authorizing the military to shoot down hijacked United Flight 93 until five minutes after it crashed into a field in Pennsylvania." - Seattle Post (05/24/03)

"A shootdown authorization was not communicated to the NORAD air defense sector until 28 minutes after United 93 had crashed in Pennsylvania." - 9/11 Ommission. Link: Source

*22:The South WTC Tower collapses -- in 10 seconds -- even though it was hit after the North Tower was.

"At 9:58:59, the South Tower collapsed in ten seconds, killing all civilians and emergency personnel inside, as well a number of individuals-both first responders and civilians-in the concourse, in the Marriott, and on neighboring streets. The building collapsed into itself, causing a ferocious windstorm and creating a massive debris cloud. The Marriott hotel suffered significant damage as a result of the collapse of the South Tower." -911 Ommission Report

*******23*********:Various people in or near the WTC twin towers reports flashes, bombs and explosions going off before the towers collapse.

Jeff Birnbaum, EMT-
"When we got to about 50 ft from the South Tower, we heard the most eerie sound that you would ever hear. A high-pitched noise and a popping noise made everyone stop. We all looked up. At the point, it all let go. The way I see it, it had to be the rivets. The building let go, there was an explosion and the whole top leaned toward us and started coming down.
"I stood there for a second in total awe, and then said, ‘What the F_____?’ I honestly thought it was Hollywood." - CEE News (02/13/02)

Louie Cacchioli, 51, is a firefighter assigned to Engine 47 in Harlem -
"We were the first ones in the second tower after the plane struck. I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there was bombs set in the building. I had just asked another firefighter to stay with me, which was a good thing because we were trapped inside the elevator and he had the tools to get out." - People (09/12/01) [Wayback Machine]

Edward Cachia, Firefighter -
"As my officer and I were looking at the south tower, it just gave. It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit, because we originally had thought there was like an internal detonation explosives because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down." - NY Times, World Trade Center Task Force Interview

Karin Deshore, Fire Captain-
"I went outside to see what I could do, when I saw the second building of the World Trade Center, still unbeknown to me the first one had collapse. Somewhere around the middle of the World Trade Center there was this orange and red flash coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode. The popping sound, and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides as far as could see. These popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger, going both up and down and then all around the building.I went inside and I told everybody that the other building or there was an explosion occurring up there and I said I think we have another major explosion.So here these explosions are getting bigger and louder and bigger and louder and I told everybody if this building totally explodes, still unaware that the other building had collapsed, I'm going in the water." - SF Gate (11/07/01)

Tom Elliott, Aon Corp -
"Tom Elliott was at work in his office at the Aon Corp., an insurance brokerage firm, on the 103rd floor of the World Trade Center's other, south tower. Most Aon employees did not straggle in until 9 a.m., but he liked to arrive around 8:30 and have a quiet cup of coffee while he checked his e-mail. e was just typing in a response when a bright flash of light startled him, and a rumble shook the structure. Flames appeared to be crawling up the outside of the building, along with dark smoke and debris, burning paper and ash. r. Elliott could feel heat coming through the windows. As far as he knew, it was his building, not the other tower, that was aflame. Oddly, no alarms were going off. The building emergency system was broadcasting no warning.Then, as they reached the 70th floor, they heard an announcement: The building was secure. No one needed to evacuate. hey had descended three more floors when United Airlines Flight 175 slammed into their own south tower like an arrow from a giant crossbow. It was 9:03 a.m. Although its spectacularly televised impact was above Elliott, at first he and those around him thought an explosion had come from below. An incredible noise - he calls it an "exploding sound" - shook the building, and a tornado of hot air and smoke and ceiling tiles and bits of drywall came flying up the stairwell. As they descended, a few other survivors stumbled into the corridor. A construction painter, his white T-shirt covered in blood, was helped downstairs by others. But the stairwell was still far from jammed with evacuees. Elliott assumed his was one of the final groups descending. They saw only two firemen going up. They told them there had been an explosion near the 60th floor." - CS Monitor, A Changed World Part 1: The Attack (09/17/01)

Stephen Gregory, Commissioner, Bureau of Communications-
"Q. Do you recall at any time, particularly when you were on West Street, any companies whose vehicles may have been parked near where you were?
A. No. I know I was with an officer from Ladder 146, a Lieutenant Evangelista, who ultimately called me up a couple of days later just to find out how I was. We both for whatever reason -- again, I don't know how valid this is with everything that was going on at that particular point in time, but for some reason I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought -- at that time I didn't know what it was. I mean, it could have been as a result of the building collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down.
Q. Was that on the lower level of the building or up where the fire was?
A. No, the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I thought I saw. And I didn't broach the topic to him, but he asked me. He said I don't know if I'm crazy, but I just wanted to ask you because you were standing right next to me. He said did you see anything by the building? And I said what do you mean by see anything? He said did you see any flashes? I said, yes, well, I thought it was just me. He said no, I saw them, too.
I don't know if that means anything. I mean, I equate it to the building cowing down and pushing things down, it could have been electrical explosions, it could have been whatever. But it's just strange that two people sort of say the same thing and neither one of us talked to each other about it. I mean, I don't know this guy from a hole in the wall. I was just standing next to him. I never met the man before in my life. He knew who was I guess by my name on my coat and he called me up, you know, how are you doing? How's everything? And, oh, by the way did you... It was just a little strange.
Q. On the television pictures it appeared as well, before the first collapse, that there was an explosion up on the upper floors.
A. I know about the explosion on the upper floors. This was like eye level. I didn't have to go like this. Because I was looking this way. I'm not going to say it was on the first floor or the second floor, but somewhere in that area I saw to me what appeared to be flashes. I don't know how far down this was already. I mean, we had heard the noise but, you know, I don't know." - NY Times (08/12/05)

Nadine Keller -
"I saw everything from my balcony in Soho. The first plane tried to veer off the tower but slammed straight into it, followed by the second plane," Nadine Keller of New York City wrote in an e-mail to BBC News Online.
"There was smoke everywhere. I heard the bomb and saw both buildings crumble like biscuits," Ms Keller said." - BBC, Eyewitnesses tell of horror (09/11/01)

Joseph Lovero, EMT-
"Joseph Lovero was a trained EMT who volunteered to ride into New York with the Battalion 3 chief while the towers were still standing.
Official: Battalion 3 to dispatch, we've just had another explosion.
Official: Battalion 3 to dispatch, we've had additional explosion.
Dispatcher: Received battalion command. Additional explosion.
A handful of Jersey City firemen, with a civilian dispatcher, managed to survive, grouping near the still-standing north tower.
All, but for Joseph Lovero, his body was found near that of his chief." - WNBC, Exclusive: 911 Tapes Tell Horror Of 9/11 (Part 2) (06/17/02)

Edmund McNally, Fiduciary Trust - He spoke with his wife Liz after the plane struck the north tower. He then called back twice after his own building had been struck. This is her account of that call:
"That's when he said to me, "Liz, this was a terrorist attack. I can hear explosions below me.'' He said stuff about the data center. That's why I think he was on the 97th floor, because the data center was on the 97th floor.
Then he said the floor was buckled. And he said it was getting really hot and hard to breath." - NY Times, Accounts From the South Tower, 97TH FLOOR

Teresa Veliz, facilities manager - Teresa Veliz, the facilities manager for a software development company, was on the 47th floor of the North Tower when Flight 11 hit. First, like many witnesses, she describes the building shaking twice:
"I got off [the elevator], turned the corner and opened the door to the ladies' room. I said good morning to a lady sitting at a mirror when the whole building shook. I thought it was an earthquake. Then I heard those banging noises on the other side of the wall. It sounded like someone had cut the elevator cables. It just fell and fell and fell. I began to cry. "Oh, my God, I just got off that elevator!" I said. "That could have been me." I prayed those other people had gotten off on the 48th floor before the elevator dropped. But I didn't have much time to be upset because the building shook again, this time even more violently. The lady at the mirror grabbed onto me and held on for dear life." Veliz went down a staircase with a coworker to the concourse level. In the mall, they got onto an up-escalator as the South Tower collapsed, causing a rush of wind which knocked them down. In the pitch black, Veliz and her coworker followed someone carrying a flashlight:
"The flashlight led us into Borders bookstore, up an escalator and out to Church Street. There were explosions going off everywhere. I was convinced that there were bombs planted all over the place and someone was sitting at a control panel pushing detonator buttons. I was afraid to go down Church Street toward Broadway, but I had to do it. I ended up on Vesey Street. There was another explosion. And another. I didn't know where to run."
- September 11: An Oral History, pp 9-15 [Reprinted: The Memory Hole]

'Everyone was screaming, crying, running. It's like a war zone'
"In New York, police and fire officials were carrying out the first wave of evacuations when the first of the World Trade Centre towers collapsed. Some eyewitnesses reported hearing another explosion just before the structure crumbled. Police said that it looked almost like a "planned implosion" designed to catch bystanders watching from the street.
As the tower crumbled in on itself, throwing a vast mushroom cloud of choking grey ash, smoke and debris across the densely packed streets of south Manhattan, the air was filled by a terrifying sucking sound akin to the roar of a rocket engine, caused by the sheer volume of air displaced by the collapse." - Guardian (09/12/01)
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Firemen recall "detonations" in South Tower:
fireman 2: We made it outside, we made it about a block.
fireman 1: We made it at least 2 blocks.
fireman 2: 2 blocks.
fireman 1: and we started runnin'
fireman 2: poch-poch-poch-poch-poch-poch-poch
fireman 1: Floor by floor it started poppin' out ..
fireman 2: It was as if as if they had detonated, det..
fireman 1: yea detonated yea
fireman 2: as if they had planned to take down a building, boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom ...
fireman 1: All the way down, I was watchin it, and runnin' - 9/11 - The Filmmakers' Commemorative Edition (2002)

FDNY Firefighter-

"As we were getting our gear on and making our way to the stairway, there was a heavy duty explosion." - CBS
MSNBC Reporter Ann Thompson-
"At 10:30 I tried to leave the building, but as I got outside I heard a second explosion and another rumble and more smoke and more dust. I ran inside the building and the chandelier shook and again black smoke filled the air. Within another five minutes we were covered again with more soot and more dust. And then a fire marshal came in and said we had to leave, because if there was a third explosion this building might not last." - MSNBC

NBC reporter Pat Dawson-
"The chief of safety of the Fire Department of New York City told me he received word of a possibility of a secondary device -- that is another bomb going off. He tries to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said that there was another explosion which took place and according to his theory, he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building." - NBC

Injured WTC witness-
"...and then all of a sudden it started like... it sounded like gunfire... you know, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang and then all of a sudden three big explosions." - News clip: 'America Responds'

NBC reporter Rick Sanchez (voice)-
"...that would put us a block and a half away from the site of where the explosion was. That area has just been evacuated because police have found what they describe as a suspicious device and they fear that it might be something that could lead to another explosion. Obviously there's a real sense of caution here on the part of police. I spoke with some police officials moments ago, Chris, and they told me they have reason to believe that one of the explosions at the World Trade Center aside from the ones that may have been caused by the impact of the plane with the building, may have been caused by a van that was parked in the building that may have had some type of explosive device in it, so their fear is that there may have been explosive devices planted either in the building, or in the adjacent area and that's why they are being so cautious." - MSNBC (09/11/01)

BBC Stephen Evans-
"There was another big, big explosion. In the other tower, flames coming out and this billowing grey smoke. People still not panicking, people not quite understanding what was going on. Then somebody said that they saw an airliner go into one of those towers. Then, I don't know how later than that, we had that big explosion from much, much lower. I don't know what on earth caused that."


*24:White House spokesman Ari Fleischer claims that President Bush received no warnings about the attacks. *BIG LIE*

*25: 1997 - John O'Neill forecasts the possibility of an organized attack and said that terrorists were already operating in the U.S.; August 2001 - John O'Neill becomes chief of security at the WTC September 10, 2001 - John O'Neill starts his first day of work at the WTC Sept 11th 2001; September 21, 2001 - The body of John O'Neill is recovered from the WTC.

*26:Ground Zero rescuers are heard saying the WTC 7 was going to "blow up" and will be "coming down soon" while others mentioned they were told around 3 p.m. that it was going to collapse and others were waiting around for it to fall.

"Keep your eye on that building. It will be coming down soon." - CNN video
"The building's about to blow up. Moving back... We are walking back. There is a building, about to blow up." - CNN video

Captain Chris Boyle - "And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post.
So we got water to 22, but then that’s when they said all right, number 7 is coming down, shut everything down." - Firehouse Magazine (08/02)

Battalion Chief John Norman - "I started to go down Vesey toward West, but there was a lot of debris blocking the way and they were telling me no, you don’t want to go down there – they’re worried about that building collapsing. I looked at 7 World Trade Center. There was smoke showing, but not a lot and I’m saying that isn’t going to fall.Yes, that’s why we couldn’t walk down Vesey. But I never expected it to fall the way it did as quickly as it did, 7. Now we’re still worried about 7. We have guys trying to make their way up into the pile, and they’re telling us that 7 is going to fall down – and that was one of the directions from the command post, to make sure we clear the collapse zone from 7 and this is a 600-foot-tall building, so we had to clear a 600-foot radius from that building." - Firehouse Magazine (05/02)

Deputy Chief Nick Visconti - "At some point, Frank Fellini said, now we’ve got hundreds of guys out there, hundreds and hundreds, and that’s on the West Street side alone. He said to me, Nick, you’ve got to get those people out of there. I thought to myself, out of where? Frank, what do you want, Chief? He answered, 7 World Trade Center, imminent collapse, we’ve got to get those people out of there. I explained to them that we were worried about 7, that it was going to come down and we didn’t want to get anybody trapped in the collapse. One comment was, oh, that building is never coming down, that didn’t get hit by a plane, why isn’t somebody in there putting the fire out?
I walked out and I got to Vesey and West, where I reported to Frank. He said, we’re moving the command post over this way, that building’s coming down." - Firehouse Magazine (08/02)

*27: BBC correspondent Jane Standley announces that the WTC 7 collapsed before it did, while the building still stood behind her, making her look like the village idiot. Daily Show material..........

*28: The 47-story WTC 7 mysteriously collapses even though no plane crashed into it and it's collapse hardly gets any media attention. Wasnt even mentioned in the 9/11 commission report.

*29: A NYU medical student was watching the WTC 7 that was on fire and hears a clap of thunder, sees a shockwave rippling through the building, saw windows from it bust out, then sees the bottom floor cave out followed by the rest of the building.

Reporter: "I'm here with an emergency worker. He's a first year NYU medical student. He was down there; he was trying to help people. His name is Darryl."
Darryl: "Yeah I was just standing there, ya know... We were watching the building [WTC 7] actually 'cuz it was on fire... the bottom floors of the building were on fire and... we heard this sound that sounded like a clap of thunder... turned around - we were shocked to see that the building was, ah well it looked like there was a shockwave ripping through the building and the windows all busted out... it was horrifying... about a second later the bottom floor caved out and the building followed after that... we saw the building crash down all the way to the ground... we were in shock." - 1010 WINS NYC (09/11/01)

*30:Larry Silverstein, the WTC leaseholder, said he decided that the smartest thing to do to the WTC 7 was to "pull it" when a NYFD commander told him that he wasn't sure they were going to be able to contain the fire in the building and said after they made the decision to "pull" the WTC 7, they "watched the building collapse." Note when he says "it" he is referring to people folks........ rolls eyes.

*31: Debris from the WTC 7 was removed without investigators having the chance to examine the wreckage at the scene to help determine the cause of failure.

Modern Marvels: Engineering Disasters 13
"Jonathan Barnett, PhD: Normally when you have a structural failure, you carefully go through the debris field looking at each item -- photographing every beam as it collapsed and every column where it is in the ground and you pick them up very carefully and you look at each element. We were unable to do that in the case of tower 7.

Narrator: The wreckage from tower 7 was mingled with the debris from the other destroyed or damaged buildings. It was removed from the site, so rescue and recovery efforts could continue." - History Channel / Modern Marvels

*32:White House staff are given the powerful anthrax antibiotic Cipro, a full month before the first cases of anthrax were reported.

*33: Taliban rulers condemn attacks on US and says Bin Laden didn't have the means to carry out such well-orchestrated attacks.
"Afghanistan's hardline Taliban rulers condemned the devastating terrorist attacks in New York and Washington on Tuesday and rejected suggestions that Osama bin Laden could be behind them.
"We never support terrorism. We too are targets of terrorism," Abdul Hai Muttmain, the Taliban's spokesman in the southern city of Kandahar, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.
But Muttmain, who is the spokesman for the Taliban's reclusive leader Mullah Mohammed Omar and one of the most senior Taliban officials, dismissed allegations that bin Laden could be behind the attacks in the United States.
"Such a big conspiracy, to have infiltrated in such a major way is impossible for Osama," said Muttmain. He said bin Laden does not have the facilities to orchestrate such a major assault within the United States." - TCM Breaking News (09/11/01)

*34:Pakistan offered to hand Bin Ladin over to the U.S if evidence of his involvment in the 9/11 attacks was presented. The U.S DENIED Bin Ladin. WTF!

*35: President Bush's cousin, Jim Pierce, escaped death from the WTC thanks to a "schedule change" the night before.

President's cousin escaped death thanks to schedule change
"President Bush's cousin should have been in the World Trade Centre when it was attacked.
Jim Pierce, managing director of AON Corporations, had arranged a business conference on the 105th floor of the South Tower where its New York offices were based.
But his group was too large so they decided to move across the street to the Millennium Hotel." Ananova

*36:Show business notables who cheated death on September 11 included: action superstar Jackie Chan; creator of FOX TV's Family Guy Seth MacFarlane; and Real World New Orleans cast member Julie Stoffer.

"Entertainment website Mr. Showbiz offered the skinny on a number of notables who cheated death on September 11, including Jackie Chan, who was excused from an early morning film shoot on the roof of the World Trade Center due to a late script; Seth MacFarlane, creator of FOX TV's Family Guy, who missed the doomed American Airlines Flight 11 out of Boston due to a typo on his itinerary; and Real World New Orleans cast member Julie Stoffer, who ditched out of the Boston-to-L.A. flight at the last minute after a fight with her boyfriend. Congrats to all of these lucky, lucky people." - TheStranger.com (09/18/01)

*37: Bush planned war with Iraq long before 9/11 attacks.-Capitol Hill Blue

*38:THE United States allowed members of Osama bin Laden’s family to jet out of the US in the immediate aftermath of September 11, even as American airspace was closed. Former White House counter-terrorism tsar Richard Clarke said the Bush administration sanctioned the repatriation of about 140 high-ranking Saudi Arabians, including relatives of the al-Qaida chief. "Somebody brought to us for approval the decision to let an aeroplane filled with Saudis, including members of the Bin Laden family, leave the country," he said.

Mr Clarke said he checked with FBI officials, who gave the go ahead. "So I said: ‘Fine, let it happen.’"
Source: BinLadin Family Exit Approved

*39:The Project for the New American Century (PNAC), a conservative think-tank group, sends President Clinton a letter recommending U.S. military action to get Saddam Hussein out of power saying among other things that he's a threat to Israel and a "significant portion of the world’s supply of oil", says American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a "misguided insistence on unanimity" in the UN Security Council, and of the 18 PNAC members who signed the letter, 10 will be in the 2001 Bush administration.

"The group, the Project for the New American Century, or PNAC, was founded in 1997. Among its supporters were three Republican former officials who were sitting out the Democratic presidency of Bill Clinton: Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz.
In open letters to Clinton and GOP congressional leaders the next year, the group called for "the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime from power" and a shift toward a more assertive U.S. policy in the Middle East, including the use of force if necessary to unseat Saddam.
And in a report just before the 2000 election that would bring Bush to power, the group predicted that the shift would come about slowly, unless there were "some catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor."
That event came on Sept. 11, 2001.

"To preserve American military preeminence in the coming decades, the Department of Defense must move more aggressively to experiment with new technologies and operational concepts, and seek to exploit the emerging revolution in military affairs.
Moreover, the Pentagon, constrained by limited budgets and pressing current missions, has seen funding for experimentation and transformation crowded out in recent years. Spending on military research and development has been reduced dramatically over the past decade.
Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.

"Like his father, Bush tries to keep a daily diary of his thoughts and observations. That night [9/11], he dictated: "The Pearl Harbor of the 21st century took place today." - Washington Post (01/27/02)

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Well, after listing and reading all of these things all I have to conclude is you would be an ignorant fool to believe in these bizzare coincidences that occur x4 x5 x6 x7 times. It's just absolutely ridiculous that some people still do believe the official story of 9/11 in it's entirety despite many of the things listed above. Know this, this is a small portion of information that is available to look up, there is WAY much more, I couldnt possibly cover it all, its too much. Well, feel free discuss and to add more Oddities if nessisary.

-An Urban Legend
Hungrii Flea-Bagius
and the pundits remain silent day two
recon_soldier
give it time, nice list..
Unlimited
and yet he walks the street.........
getagrip
can u supply links to support everything u have posted above i mean just to use an example

"*29: A NYU medical student was watching the WTC 7 that was on fire and hears a clap of thunder, sees a shockwave rippling through the building, saw windows from it bust out, then sees the bottom floor cave out followed by the rest of the building."

where's the proof (not just for this for every bit of info)
Colbert Nation
The problem with evidence is that it doesn't always agree with your facts
getagrip
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Mar 20 2007, 10:18 PM) [snapback]1592026[/snapback]
The problem with evidence is that it doesn't always agree with your facts


i must leave this thread now, the riddler has spoken
Unlimited
QUOTE(getagrip @ Mar 21 2007, 12:15 AM) [snapback]1592259[/snapback]
i must leave this thread now, the riddler has spoken


lol..i guess you dont need facts when it's a conspiracy......
ADbox
awsome thread. best one ive read yet.
Colbert Nation
Plagiarism is the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.

just something to think about
An Urban Legend
QUOTE
"*29: A NYU medical student was watching the WTC 7 that was on fire and hears a clap of thunder, sees a shockwave rippling through the building, saw windows from it bust out, then sees the bottom floor cave out followed by the rest of the building."

where's the proof (not just for this for every bit of info)
Ive provided links..... But for that statement in general the download to the actual video wasnt available so I just quoted the statement. And some of the facts things said are already in the public domain.
ADbox
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Mar 21 2007, 04:13 AM) [snapback]1592611[/snapback]
Plagiarism is the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.

just something to think about


girl.
Unlimited
didnt the caryle group short sell the market heavy on 9/11...especially airline stocks...so daddys with bin ladens brother while the fbi is running around protecting saudis.....norad is told to stand down.....this is so simple .....
An Urban Legend
QUOTE(limited @ Mar 21 2007, 06:42 AM) [snapback]1593131[/snapback]
didnt the caryle group short sell the market heavy on 9/11...especially airline stocks...so daddys with bin ladens brother while the fbi is running around protecting saudis.....norad is told to stand down.....this is so simple .....
Well.........yea. Bush Sr was meeting with Bin Ladins brothers on the morning of 9/11 and yes I believe they sold it heavy, amazing because a day after if not late the same day, the media were claiming Bin LAdin Did it!! he did it!! I wounder how Bin Ladins brother would have felt at that business meeting with the presidents father before he claimed his brother killed 2000+ Americans and then putting a bounty out on his head. Awkward...... blush.gif

I dont find this War On Terror to be real at all, its just like a FBI agent said in press meeting on Cspan, "The Bush's vacation with the Bin Ladins(the enemy)". And its no wonder we havent caught Bin Ladin yet, Bush and his administration even stated "Bin ladin was never the goal". And I couldnt agree with that more.
An Urban Legend
*Double post* Delete Please.
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