Exactly what I said...feels like I'm playing with toys.

Well just a question here as i personally feel GTA is the better series, but if your saying its like playing with toys, is the likes of the Getaway more realistic and the style that GTA should take?

Still i can understand it does feel like toys at times. BUt its a good part of GTA.

I highly doubt there would be kids or animals. The GTA brand is already controversial as it is, adding kids and animals will get PETA and all sorts of other people on there backs.

But it would be nice.

wil the predestrians die more realistically lik eof lung cancer due to smoking and stuff also if you want realistic stick som ekids in as predistrians i know all the woohah that would raise about shooting and running over kids but yeah they should be in it
Its a bummer about the planes I can understand no jet or massive planes but i think the dodo should still be there something small anyway if you want to get across to places without driving or boating
load thingy sounds good




more realistic? see above
interiors of every building isee that they will be repeated i mean teh interiors will be like the way the houses were on san andreas when you rob them. there may be 5 different layouts to a house but they are repeated over and over and is ee that happening here where there will be different layouts but reapeated and if you go into a multistory building you will be restricted to ceratin floors. this is of course understanable cause it would be ahuge effort to put individual detail in

18 new screens

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/793/793799/imgs_1.html

the game is looking good but yeah it seems like npc's don't vary too much

I think there are other reasons GTA4 will have no planes, it being set in a NYC-esque area...

Could Master Chief Cause a GTA IV Delay?

Halo 3 comes out a few weeks before Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto IV, but Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter thinks that Take-Two may decide to push GTA IV back another few weeks to put even more space between the two major fall releases.

Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter is on a roll. Not only did he weigh in on Activision's recent performance, but he's also provided some very interesting comments about Take-Two in advance of the company's second quarter fiscal report on June 11.

He's maintaining a "Sell" rating on the stock and believes that a successful turnaround at the company will take more than a year to complete. "We believe that new management understands what is required to turn the company's fortunes around, and believe that they will take prudent steps to return the company to profitability," he said. "However, we believe that there are significant structural changes required in order to control costs, and believe that these changes will take more than a year to complete. On the revenue side, new management is saddled with the decisions made by the prior management for at least another year, and we do not expect new games such as The Bigs, All-Pro Football, Fantastic Four, or The Darkness to be wildly profitable."

He added, "We also think that the new management will take steps to cut costs as soon as practicable, resulting in studio closures and charge-offs for games in development."

The real interesting part of Pachter's note, however, is that a delay to the highly anticipated Grand Theft Auto IV could be considered. He believes Take-Two may push the game out a few weeks for both financial reasons and to get further away from the (likely) mega blockbuster Halo 3. As it stands currently, Halo 3 is launching on September 25 and GTA IV is expected on October 16.

"We believe that it is possible that the company will choose to 'throw in the towel' on FY:07 by shifting the release date for Grand Theft Auto IV by a few weeks, increasing the losses incurred this year and improving the company's prospects for FY:08," Pachter explained. "We believe that a two-week delay would provide a reasonable gap between the launch of Halo 3 and the launch of GTA IV, and would actually help sales of both games. In addition, a delay of the 'normal' SKU for GTA IV by two or three weeks could allow Take-Two to maximize revenues from the $89.99 Collector's Edition of the game by shipping that SKU on October 17, and to increase overall profitability."



by James Brightman

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16362

I don't care about Gaylo 3

Halo 3 had better not delay the game. I think two weeks apart from their releases is just fine, but I also kind-of thought there would be a delay, but only by a day or two (like Vice City Stories), not a few weeks (like GTA 3)! I have the special edition pre-ordered already, so I just hope it comes around the sixteenth (if they decide to ship pre-orders first)

crypto

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=25852

Can u believe that on the GameSpot fourums they want KIDS to be in this game ?

no link but you can find this anywhere.

Sucks at the no girlfriend thing. And no hud is interesting but I wonder how we will get around town though. The Gore sounds awesome AO rated game confirmed!

Sorry, but I think that's fake. I read it on IGN from a guy who claimed he got it from the Turkish Xbox Magazne (there's no such magazine). I guess that explains why there are no links or scans The only things that's true is the new trailer coming out June 28th.

crypto

the new trailer came out nothing earth shattering in gameplay or what the story. the graphics and physics looks good though

So is this game only going to be For PS3?


and PS2?

Nope, its on the 360 and PS3, not sure about PS2.

No, just 360 and PS3. No other consoles are getting it.

Okay Good I'm getting a 360, but I love for GTA so if it was not going to be on 360 then I was going to have to make some big decisions there! Good to know can't wait to get it.

Vancouver

I'm sure their will eventually be a PC version though...like a year after the original release and nobody cares anymore. Like usual.

So? makes it more realistic doesnt it


I remeber people getting angry over a PC or PS game ages ago where you could shoot kids and pregnant women

NEW INFO and SCREENSHOTS!!

-Drive-bys are back, and you can use pistols
-A charecter named Little Jacob, a Carribean arms dealer, helps Niko get weapons
-You'll have the ability to hail a cab
-Niko can go to a place called "Tw@ Cafe" , which is an internet cafe, and upload his CV (curriculum vitæ), or résumé, to get an interview with and kill a man named Goldberg. GamesTM magazine said "GTA IV's web is accessible from any computer in the game, and provides a hub for all sorts of interactivity within Liberty City. The extent of GTA IV's World Wide Web use is still being kept under wraps, but we're promised that it's huge, and very, very important."
-A place has been mentioned called Castle Gardens, which is where Niko goes to see a person named McReary. The place is a "coast-side hangout overlooking The Statue of Happiness."
-Another neighborhood is "Rotterdam Hill"
-The Times Square look-alike in GTA IV will be called "Star Junction"
- The magazine also said "any crime you commit will give you a wanted level." and "instead of the cops just screaming to your position, the star rating you're 'awarded' translates to a visible search area on the radar. If you manage to escape the circular search area then your wanted level will flash and disappear. If you're spotted, though, the center of the circle changes to your position, and you have to start again."
-Every street in the game has a name, and the cops will use this to you down. "If you're spotted on Star Junction in a Comet, for example, you'll hear it on the police radio. Escape the police's line of sight, however, and the ball's suddenly in your court."
-There is a store called "Perseus", where Niko sold a suit and shoes
-If you're riding in a cab, the camera will go into first-person
-No more Pay n' Sprays
- Damage (i.e. gun wounds) will be visible on Niko
-Every crime you commit gives you a wanted level, as long as nobody's watching.

The scans with new pictures are on the first post

crypto

Well I suppose this game is just another reason to get a 360 as my second console with the Wii. The updates and what info has been provided so far are indeed going to improve the game but just like many others I was hoping for more than one city, or at least a completly new and original city. I`m sure it will still be as enjoyable as the other GTA's though and maybe there will be some real innovation with the gameplay and story as power of the PS3 and 360 certainly allows it.

GTA4 looks freakin sick yall!

Am I the only one here that just doesn't care about GTA anymore?

^I know many who are personally over the GTA games and aren`t particularly interested in the new one unless it has signifcant innovation of the gamplay and story. They are sick of the same old formula, but like many others will still probably end up buying it regardless of just how much innovation its contains. Its not a console-seller for me anymore but it will make it easier to justify buying a second console.

cryptosporidium137 thanks for the info

the release date gets closer everyday

new preview of GTA IV

originally broke on ign
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/807/807625p1.html


here is the rest of the guys

http://previews.teamxbox.com/xbox-36...ft-Auto-IV/p1/
http://games.kikizo.com/news/200707/115_p01.asp
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/807/807831p1.html
http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/xbox360... 811812750059
http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=168874
http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/actio...dded;title ;1
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3161490

Rockstar rep says 'complete experience' only on 360 - plus new screens and details

It's no secret that the long-ago announced downloadable episodes for Grand Theft Auto IV will be exclusive to the Xbox 360 version of the game. According to Rockstar Games spokesman Hosi Simon, however, there won't be any consolation prizes for those who choose to buy the PlayStation 3 edition instead. When asked during a preview of the game (which you can read about here, if you haven't already) whether there would be any advantage to owning the PS3 version that could rival the 360's exclusives, Simon said, "not that I can think of."

"They're identical games," Simon continued. "We're not hardware makers, and we're not like a pawn between these companies, we try not to be as much as we can. We make great games for people to enjoy on whichever system they want.

"But I guess if you want the complete experience with the episodes, then yeah, you should buy the 360, I suppose," Simon said.

Downloadable episodes or no, the game looks set to be an incredible experience on both platforms, and we've got a new batch of GTA IV screens and art to prove it (just hit the Images tab above to see them all). To find out much more about what you can expect from this sprawling underworld epic, check out the meaty details revealed by our latest preview.

source

that bold line should be

"We like when one of the big 3 hardware manufacturers gives us money so if you want to play the full game get the 360 version."

hahahah so true

stupid console wars

Take-Two is reducing its fiscal 2007 guidance primarily to reflect the movement of the launch of Grand Theft Auto IV for the PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system and the Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system from the fourth quarter of fiscal 2007 to fiscal 2008, due to additional development time required to complete the title. The title is now planned for release in the Company’s second quarter of fiscal 2008.

http://www.gta4.net/news/index.php
http://ir.take2games.com/ReleaseDeta...leaseID=258238

Second quarter of fiscal 2008 in Take Two terms: The period beginning February 1st, and ending April 30th.

Take-Two will host a 20-minute conference call today at 5:30 pm Eastern Time to discuss this news. The call can be accessed by dialing (877) 407-0984 or (201) 689-8577. A live listen-only webcast of the call will be available by visiting http://ir.take2games.com and a replay will be available following the call at the same location.

http://ir.take2games.com/medialist.cfm

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WOW

I remember one game journalist being skeptical about the GTA 4 release because of frame rates and graphics issues in the build he saw and he was ridiculed by readers. I guess he is laughing last now.

people are also saying something about the core being discontinued also has something to do with the delay!

Seems like they're never going to take gta to another country :sad:

I'd love to see it in Toronto LOL well I don't know somewhere cool.

I guess the real reason why the delay is out

Xbox 360 problems delay GTA IV. Microsoft bans Playstation 3 release.

Problems with development of GTA IV on the Xbox 360 has meant the game has been delayed until April 2008.


GTA IV was due for release on 17th October. Rockstar have been using the Playstation 3 as the lead platform. An Xbox 360 team have been working besides the core team adapting code. Whilst the PS3 Blu-ray disc will easily accommodate the game, there have been problems fitting the game on to a single 360 DVD disc. Microsoft will not allow the game to be released on 2 disc as they are concerned the 360 will be compared unfavourably to the PS3. The situation has led to tension between Dan Houser and the Microsoft Empire as there is currently no way the game can fit on a single dvd.
Microsoft are currently working on a new compression technology for DVD9 discs, however this wont be available until next year. In a politically worded statement Sam Houser said "The game is huge and is pushing the hardware platforms to their absolute limits. The top engineers from Sony and Microsoft are working closely with the team in Edinburgh right now, helping us to fully leverage the power of both platforms."

Whilst the PlayStation 3 version is all set for completion at the end of this month, Microsoft have tied Take Two into an iron-clad legal agreement that forbids them from releasing the game on any format unless the Xbox 360 is ready. This has meant that whilst the PS3 version will be ready for October, Microsoft have directly prevented its release. That's what happens when the Houser brothers sell their a*** for the Microsoft dollar. Stupid limey gimp-bags.

http://www.ukrebellion.com/2007/08/xbox-36...lay-gta-iv.html

not sure if the source is credible

well this news sucks, i guess i kinda expected it anyways. at least bioshock is still on track

Sounds like a looooooong wait.

no no it cant have been banned delayed etc we can pre order in australia now and they are saying November

Somewhere else I heard that PS3 being hard to develop for was the cause. I know they had issues with not every 360 having a hard drive earlier. Also, if PS3 is the lead platform, why have the screens plus videos been running on the 360?

Yeah I heard that one too. In fact some games that came out on the 360 that were supposed to come out on the ps3 all of a sudden disappeared.

Damn Bill Gates, he's rich enough already. Who is he trying to beat?

hes trying to bring us all down.

I think the consensus is that it is problems wit the PS3 that delayed the game.

i heard that they are afraid of competition with Halo 3. id rather buy GTA IV anyway
or Huxley

yeah, i'd buy gta over halo 3,

That'd be stupid. If they were afraid they wouldn't push it back as much as 6 months, just 2 or 3.

its all stupid really, the crap they pull. we still buy the games after months of beating our chest and b****ing, we still hand over the green

At the same time though, a lot of games scheduled to be released at the same time as halo3 have been put back 6 months for the 360 like Unreal tournement 3 and Haze

new pics

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/793/793799/imgs_1.html

I'll buy GTA 4 anyday

new trailer up

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28634.html ---SD
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28633.html ---HD

and the official boxart


The graphics are better then the last GTA but it does not look that impressive looks like a game that could came out on the PC 3 years ago. As for gameplay we will have to wait and see.

Any word on multiplayer?

The new trailer came out yesterday

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32308.html

As for Multiplayer



taken from neogaf

Can't believe they have not said anything about a PC release, that really sucks GTA was a PC game before it came on the consoles.