ToxicLogic
Mar 22 2007, 06:27 PM
OKay, this is my first time posting a new topic, so please be semi-nice. At night when everyone is in bed I start to hear things. It starts out like the hum of a fan then increases until it almost sounds like a jet engine. It isn't steady, it kinda fades in and out. Then I start to hear what sounds like voices, but I can't make out what they are saying. By then I freak myself out and turn on the tv so there is noise and it seems to fade away. I didn't start expierencing this until we moved into our new home. Could this be something paranormal or is it a physical thing? (We have had other wierd things happening in our house too)
Shankpin
Mar 22 2007, 06:38 PM
imo, Sounds very much like something halucinatory or a form of sleep paralysis. It usually is triggered by stress, the move could be causing it. Check this link out and see what you think...
btw, can you explain little more of these 'other things' you mention going on in home--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis
Starry_eyes
Mar 22 2007, 06:40 PM
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Starry_eyes
Mar 22 2007, 06:46 PM
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ToxicLogic
Mar 22 2007, 06:51 PM
Here are some of the other things. We've had little things like the cupboards above the fridge will be open when they were closed before and no one has been around. They latch too hard for them to just open on their own. We have had little things moved. I'd put a pair of sunglasses on the kitchen table, and the next morning they will be laying on the couch. The biggest thing that we have had happen to us, actually happened to my 2 year old daughter. We have an inclosed porch on the front of the house that has a door with a half window (that is covered with a pretty dark, yet semi sheer curtain) and then there is a door with a full window going from the porch to the living room. My daughter was sitting in front of the full window door(which was open) in the living room playing with some toys. All of the sudden she stops, stares toward the porch, and starts shaking. She started screaming "theres a boy, a boy!" She was shaking hard and wouldn't respond to me. I got off the couch and went over to her and she looked up at me and said "mommy look there's a boy!" I looked into the porch and there wasn't anything there. The door going outside was closed and it was dark outside so she couldn't have seen anyone walking by. I opened the door to see if anyone was out there and had been peering in my window, but no one was anywhere around. We live on a lot that has empty lots ALL around it so, I wouldn't have thought anyone could have ran fast enough to hide, plus my 3 dogs never said a things, and the bark if a leaf blows past the house. My daughter saw something, I have never seen her so shaken about anything before. Any ideas?
ToxicLogic
Mar 22 2007, 06:54 PM
QUOTE(Starry_eyes @ Mar 22 2007, 12:46 PM) [snapback]1594998[/snapback]
It's kind of insulting to go reaching for hallucinatory explanations first when it could as easily be some real sound. ToxicLogic said when everyone else is asleep, but probably she isn't asleep or paralyzed if she's able to turn on the television.
Thanks! I was thinking the same thing. I am not asleep when this happens. I can lay there with my eyes open or closed. And it doesn't happen all of the time. Maybe once a week.
Shankpin
Mar 22 2007, 06:58 PM
QUOTE(Starry_eyes @ Mar 22 2007, 01:46 PM) [snapback]1594998[/snapback]
It's kind of insulting to go reaching for hallucinatory explanations first when it could as easily be some real sound. ToxicLogic said when everyone else is asleep, but probably she isn't asleep or paralyzed if she's able to turn on the television.
Insulting?!! What a crock- To assume sleep paralysis is NOT insulting to anyone....LMAO!! You really dont know what you're talking about do you?----- Many people have this sleep disorder, and it's very common under stress. Hypnagogic Hallucinations fall within SP and you're not always necessarily paralysed...Go get educated on the subject and come back.... The link is on my previous post......
Shankpin
Mar 22 2007, 07:06 PM
QUOTE(ToxicLogic @ Mar 22 2007, 01:54 PM) [snapback]1595004[/snapback]
Thanks! I was thinking the same thing. I am not asleep when this happens. I can lay there with my eyes open or closed. And it doesn't happen all of the time. Maybe once a week.
Thanks for nothing, LOL. You want to get to bottom of what's going on, weed out the obvious first? It could be SP, not a psychotic disorder, a sleep disorder triggered by stress.....
& again, When in bed "hearing voices" as you CLAIM, thank those that are not calling you psychotic or telling you to get a shrink.... it happens all the time here. YAH!!!
Shankpin
Mar 22 2007, 07:12 PM
QUOTE(ToxicLogic @ Mar 22 2007, 01:51 PM) [snapback]1595001[/snapback]
Here are some of the other things. We've had little things like the cupboards above the fridge will be open when they were closed before and no one has been around. They latch too hard for them to just open on their own. We have had little things moved. I'd put a pair of sunglasses on the kitchen table, and the next morning they will be laying on the couch. The biggest thing that we have had happen to us, actually happened to my 2 year old daughter. We have an inclosed porch on the front of the house that has a door with a half window (that is covered with a pretty dark, yet semi sheer curtain) and then there is a door with a full window going from the porch to the living room. My daughter was sitting in front of the full window door(which was open) in the living room playing with some toys. All of the sudden she stops, stares toward the porch, and starts shaking. She started screaming "theres a boy, a boy!" She was shaking hard and wouldn't respond to me. I got off the couch and went over to her and she looked up at me and said "mommy look there's a boy!" I looked into the porch and there wasn't anything there. The door going outside was closed and it was dark outside so she couldn't have seen anyone walking by. I opened the door to see if anyone was out there and had been peering in my window, but no one was anywhere around. We live on a lot that has empty lots ALL around it so, I wouldn't have thought anyone could have ran fast enough to hide, plus my 3 dogs never said a things, and the bark if a leaf blows past the house. My daughter saw something, I have never seen her so shaken about anything before. Any ideas?
I believe children are much more sensitive than what we are. I would listen to my daughter very carefully.
Is there anyway to get a history on your house?
ToxicLogic
Mar 22 2007, 07:16 PM
Sorry, I didn't mean to insult you. I did read your link. The only problem with the SP answer is that I am able to move, I can get up and turn the TV on, I can roll around. I am wide awake. And I hear something that sounds like voices, not I hear voices. Its hard to tell what I hear because everything is a background noise to the jet engine sound. That might be exageratting the sound, but it is the best way I can describe it. Its not loud like I am standing next to it, it just a deep sound. But the second I turn something on that makes noise or my dog inside barks for some reason, the sounds stop.
As for getting history on my house, I have a book that basically lists owners of the home from back in the early 1900s. I haven't read through the entire thing though. I'll do that and let you know what I find.
Kalien
Mar 22 2007, 07:30 PM
I used to hear things at night at my old house when I was trying to sleep. Like juke box music, voices, footsteps, etc. Everyone else was sleeping but I couldn't :3 then I started leaving my fan on all the time and now it keeps me from hearing things.
Shankpin
Mar 22 2007, 07:39 PM
My sister's son who was three at the time claimed to see a man walking in his bedroom. A large man who carried this stick. Things would happen strange all the time, but my sis didn't put it together until something showed up on a pic. She moved out soon afterward (she was in military at the time). Just thought i'd share that with you.
Ok, some people would tell you to get a medium, or someone of the church to bless the family/ house. Depending on your beliefs-- I would suggest either youre comfortable with at this point... what concerns me is your daughter. She seems to be petrified of this presense. She is sensing it clearly. Her fear in this, and as young as she is, I personally (in my strong opinion) don't like that.
You weren't there very long before it actually started making its presence known, is this right?
ToxicLogic
Mar 22 2007, 07:44 PM
We moved into the house in June '06. The little things started happening about 2 weeks after we moved in. My daughter had her experience about 3 months after that. I didn't start hearing things like this until 2 months ago. Before it was more of a I think I heard the floor squeak in the next room kinda thing, things that we put off as the house moaning and groaning. We had a what do you expect from a 150 year old home attitude.
Shankpin
Mar 22 2007, 07:59 PM
QUOTE(ToxicLogic @ Mar 22 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]1595056[/snapback]
We moved into the house in June '06. The little things started happening about 2 weeks after we moved in. My daughter had her experience about 3 months after that. I didn't start hearing things like this until 2 months ago. Before it was more of a I think I heard the floor squeak in the next room kinda thing, things that we put off as the house moaning and groaning. We had a what do you expect from a 150 year old home attitude.
O" geez that house is that old-- There is no telling what history is holds.
It will only become more apparent with time. That is from I've seen- & I've noticed sometimes that it will come in spells.. with each spell of hauntings it tends to get more clear, even more aggressive depending on its nature.
Other people may disagree, but I, personally, wouldn't taunt it.
I would get someone in there to cleanse the house- ASAP.
I'm still interested in what you find on the history. That could answer some of these questions... what? and why? and who? sort of things... at least till you get someone in there.
Starry_eyes
Mar 22 2007, 08:00 PM
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Shankpin
Mar 23 2007, 02:10 AM
QUOTE(Starry_eyes @ Mar 22 2007, 03:00 PM) [snapback]1595072[/snapback]
If your reply to me isn't insulting, it still seems kind of rude. And you ended it with "wacko:".
I do have to explain to spacy= Your assuming SP was "insulting" is completely and utterly
Barek Halfhand
Mar 23 2007, 03:04 AM
QUOTE(Sunny98 @ Mar 22 2007, 08:10 PM) [snapback]1595551[/snapback]
I do have to explain to spacy= Your assuming SP was "insulting" is completely and utterly

YEAH!
I've somehow associated SP to everything from externalized persecuters, to inter dimentional indentured servents from pergatory .....but never this:
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Assuming sleep paralysis is not the simplest explanation for occasionally hearing the same unidentified sounds
sleep paralysis?......do tell!.........MR HALHAND
Shankpin
Mar 23 2007, 03:14 AM
LOL!!
not the simplist, and definately the most irrational explanation..... right!
earthchick
Mar 23 2007, 05:33 AM
Sometimes sleep paralysis fits and sometimes it doesn't. In this particular case SP really doesn't appear to fit. If she can be awake enough to rationalize getting up and turning on the TV, and then finds it stops the annoying sounds to have the TV on, it really isn't indicative of SP. That doesn't mean it is definitely paranormal in nature either. Some such noises, when heard only when the house is quiet, can be attributed to problems within the physical ear.
The other occurrences do sound as though they are possibly paranormal in nature. The question is, is the noise related to those events, or is it a separate issue?
Jules22871
Mar 23 2007, 05:25 PM
Have you had your ears checked? I am not saying that this is what it is but it sounds like it might be tinnitus.
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Tinnitus can be perceived in one or both ears or in the head. It is usually described as a ringing noise, but in some patients it takes the form of a buzzing, hissing, humming, or whistling sound, or as ticking, clicking, roaring, "crickets" or "locusts", tunes, songs, or beeping.[3] It has also been described as a "whooshing" sound, as of wind or waves.[4]
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ToxicLogic
Mar 23 2007, 08:35 PM
QUOTE(Jules22871 @ Mar 23 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]1596431[/snapback]
Have you had your ears checked? I am not saying that this is what it is but it sounds like it might be tinnitus.
LinkLink doesn't work. I'll google it. I know something is going on in my house, but I am just trying to figure out if these sounds are related to them or are something physical. Thanks
Jules22871
Mar 24 2007, 04:58 AM
Sorry about the link. That was just from Wikipedia. There is a ton of info on the web about it. The reason that I borught it up is that my ex had it and had to have a radio or tv on to sleep. You talking about getting up and turning your tv on made me think of it.
ToxicLogic
Mar 26 2007, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the suggestion. I am going to look into it further. I am also, going to see if I can find a recorder and see if I can get anything on that. Thanks to everyones suggestions!
snappydragon
Apr 16 2007, 09:56 AM
QUOTE(Starry_eyes @ Mar 22 2007, 03:00 PM) [snapback]1595072[/snapback]
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It is really irritating to have people constantly take their posts off when they are answering posts. I have no idea what some of the conversation means now. I can see a post here and there, but all the time? I had this happen to me yesterday, a male voice saying something unintelligble after I had stayed up all night at work, went to bed for less than an hour, and after getting awoken by first shift calling off. I chalked it up to being way to tired for my own good, a hallucination. I also have had this happen when asleep, where I hear my voice just as I was falling asleep yell something I could not understand. I have hear things in the middle of the night that have awoken me, like the alarm going off on my pager or my pager going off, to find neither happened. Or the phone. Or my son yelling out, he's autistic and its very distinctive, when he was at his dads. I have been having a hard time sleeping lately when I should be asleep, and sleeping when i shouldn't. Right now its almost 6 am and I should be asleep, I have slept for about 1.5 hours and I have a busy day. But I slept from 1:30 to 7:30 pm this afternoon after working third, part of first and the end of second. No wonder I am hallucinating.
coldethyl
Apr 18 2007, 06:29 PM
Old plumbing can carry voices for miles. You can actually hear your neighbor's conversations.
Blueguardian
Apr 19 2007, 07:56 AM
iv heard noises at night of people talking but it hasnt happened for ages, i had a similar expirience about a week ago though, i played this game and it made these high pitched beeps anyway if you listen to anything long enough your gonna think your hearing it at night. lol. but the time i heard voices ages ago was completly different, i was laying in bed awake and i thought i heard voices and there was nothing there so i went back to bed, i doubt it was the tv still echoing in my ears because i didnt watch that much. to hear noises from things like games and tv's you literally have to listen to them for hours non stop.
my opinion about your house so far is that you have some spirit, maybe a boy, i dont think he means you any harm, moving sunglasses wont do anything to harm you, unless he's moved some oil and put it on the ground right before the sunglasses though.
oh yes yesterday i was at deb practice and i thought i heard my mum or someone scream my name, but that was impossible because she wasnt even there. weird. it happened at 4:59 in the afternoon so
it wasnt anyhting to do with hallucinations ok ? (yes that was a joke

Toxic Flood
Apr 20 2007, 02:26 AM
I hear things at night too in my new house. I assume that it's just so silent that even little things sound like loud noises, especially if you concentrate on them. I usually end up turning my TV on too, heh.
And I've had sleep paralysis twice about a day apart. Those were the only times I can remember falling asleep on my back (I did it by accident). It was really wierd. The first time it felt like my head was being held in place by like someones fists on either side of it from behind or something. Mind you, this all carries no other distinction from reality, it's just like you are awake and in your bed. Anyways, in my first one my nose started bleeding and then I snapped out of it. My second one was just wierd, I could hear my breath and it sounded like a robot noise. I thought to myself "maybe this is sleep paralysis!" so I tried to roll over but I couldn't move. So I tried to yell but my mouth wouldn't move so it just made a "uuuuuuuhhhhh" noise. After the noise I snapped out of it and went to sleep on my stomach.
Haha sorry for the description I can't stop typing once I start. I planned on this being like a 3 sentence response.
Sable
Apr 20 2007, 03:34 AM
Over the years, it has been a passing tidbit of conversation to ask this question. I've heard it, answered it and asked of it myself to others. That question was :"Do you hear faint voices, like a radio talk show, or music when the A/C or Fan is on?" 7 out of 10 ppl will admit sometimes they do, and hear different versions of it.
After awile, I accepted the peculiarities as our relaxing audible sensors arranging the constant "hum" of the appliances or rotary sounds to define it. WHichever the brain chooses to do while we attempt to relax before we sleep.
This is something One has to experience themselves. I remember hearing a "faint talk show mutterrings" as if a TV was left on in the next room. ANother told me how ,when he runs the Tab water (Kitchen,bathroom), he hears noises outside the door. WHen he's done, nothing appears to indicate anyone was there. He said "It sounds like someone is shuffling out there, moving or doing kitchen racket..I dunno".
A woman, said she can always hear a faint radio,playing behind the Hum of the A/C (Air conditioner).
I tried to do light investigation on the surroundings of these conditions. Looking for High Tension wires, Ham radio towers, how close people live to Traffic Freeways, an Airports. Because, I wanted to see if our low frequency Electro bio-pulses could pick up these lingering frequencies. Since we're all relaxing to sleep, waiting to slip into slumber for the night. Our ears are the last 5 senses to be active.
It may also be several pyschological tendencies that are connected to Stress. As for Paranormal activity associated with and along these symptoms. That is the realm of this situation.
SAVAGEGARDEN
Apr 20 2007, 08:55 PM
What your experiencing is what they call "white noise". You are obviously sensitive to spirits along with being a clairaudient too which means you have the "gift to hear" and possibly see spirits if your a sensitive.
Do you ever feel energies or have a tendency to get a head rush and chest rush all at once (chest meaning heavy pressure). How about a feeling of wind in your ears? (althought this could be an entity present but if you can feel this it means your "spirit sensitive").
Try taking some pictures of your home (the inside) and post them. I will tell you what I pick up in your pictures...
Namaste
WereScrib
Apr 21 2007, 03:08 AM
Well, I've had quite a few instances of abnormal sounds... I wouldn't chalk it up to white noise as your first guess. Aged electronics have been known to start acting... very oddly. Often picking up sounds they shouldn't. I know numerous people who've experienced tape recorders, those kiddy keyboards, internal computer speakers and radios pick up things they really shouldn't be able to. Such as radio stations that.. don't seem to exist. Things that sound like conversations. I even turned on my tv once, and when it was on a black INPUT 2 screen before I switched on a console, and it started making an extremely warped, vaguely sentient sounding rambling growl.
Also, certain sounds bounce off of walls in extremely abnormal ways. For instance, right now, this computer is kinda.. uh.. old and run down. But, more importantly, she's making a grinding and growling noise. That alone, just shows that her fan's engine is kinda.. mostly dead. But, the frequency makes it sound like an empty Green River soda bottle a ways away is making a noise louder, then the fan itself. Also, as Coldethyl said, plumbing, heat vents, and even night alone can do remarkable things to sound. (out here, we can hear things like parties, miles and miles away at an Indian Reservation, in example)
As far as rediculousely wierd sounds go.. I hear stuff. Wrote about it once on here... But generally, if my dog doesn't hear it too, I say either hallucination, or something abnormal I may as well not think about, lest it get spooky.
snappydragon
May 14 2007, 03:04 AM
QUOTE(Blueguardian @ Apr 19 2007, 03:56 AM) [snapback]1636534[/snapback]
iv heard noises at night of people talking but it hasnt happened for ages, i had a similar expirience about a week ago though, i played this game and it made these high pitched beeps anyway if you listen to anything long enough your gonna think your hearing it at night. lol. but the time i heard voices ages ago was completly different, i was laying in bed awake and i thought i heard voices and there was nothing there so i went back to bed, i doubt it was the tv still echoing in my ears because i didnt watch that much. to hear noises from things like games and tv's you literally have to listen to them for hours non stop.
my opinion about your house so far is that you have some spirit, maybe a boy, i dont think he means you any harm, moving sunglasses wont do anything to harm you, unless he's moved some oil and put it on the ground right before the sunglasses though.
oh yes yesterday i was at deb practice and i thought i heard my mum or someone scream my name, but that was impossible because she wasnt even there. weird. it happened at 4:59 in the afternoon so
it wasnt anyhting to do with hallucinations ok ? (yes that was a joke


I have heard this sort of thing also, of family members calling me and waking me up when they weren't around. Then I got up and wondered if they were ok or if they were warning me of something. I have heard music from afar off when it rained alot of times, and conversations others are having in my head, like background noise, or out loud but from far off like the music. It usually was when no one was around or were quiet and out of the room,(or asleep). It happened the first time with my friend, Tonya, I have talked about her before. I was at her house with our other friend and we seen a shadow in the yard, she pointed it out and said that shadow out there was a log that was broken on the fence when her dad lived there. Ok that was weird e thought. Then we heard a noise in her moms room, like two people arguing and it was muffled, Her mom was either sleeping or gone I can't remember, but there was no radio or TV playing. She said that was her parents when they were divorcing they would argue in the room. She also saw a purple kangaroo that night several times,

she was very stressed and hadn't slept in a while and was doing some weird dieting things. We stayed with her that night o help her through it, but it was strange to take part in her hallucinations. She had a few powers she shouldn't have.
I don't know how the message ended up in side of the quote, I am sorry. My message starts at I after the smiley icons.
Colbert Nation
May 14 2007, 03:27 AM
Hearing voices is a sign of schizophrenia...you might want to go get checked out...
PixieMischief
May 14 2007, 06:43 AM
I had one weird sound experience when I was young. I was sleeping and got woken up due to weird noise. this btw wasnt sleep paralizes. I was awake. moving ect. the noise came from inside the house but couldnt figure out what. I cant walk so couldnt go look. We had cats but this was NOT cat sounds. was animalish but not a cat and thats all we had in the house. Weird thing is......I went right back to sleep as if nothing was wrong or weird... thats the weird part. im not like that. went back to sleep thinkin that nothing was wrong ect. when I knew the sound wasnt normal.
ToxicLogic
May 14 2007, 02:17 PM
First off, sorry I haven't been paying much attention lately.
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Apr 18 2007, 01:29 PM) [snapback]1635488[/snapback]
Old plumbing can carry voices for miles. You can actually hear your neighbor's conversations.
We only have one "neighbor" everyone else is at least 400 yards away. I have never heard them in my house before and all of the plumbing in my house and I know that at least one of the incoming pipes are only about 5 years old. I never thought of that before though.
ToxicLogic
May 14 2007, 03:32 PM
*Update*
I did go to an audiologist and have my ears checked. He said that I may have a slight case of tinnitus.
I haven't had an episode for almost a month now, but there are still things going on that can't be explained.
My sister came to visit a few weeks ago. She stayed in my daughters room one night and wouldn't go in there again. She said that the toys started making noise for no reason. We have two of the rocking horses that sing and make noise when you are riding them and both of them were going off at the same time. Now if one of them had been going off I might say maybe it just has a short, but both of them? What are the chances of that? No one had moved them and they would both start and stop whenever. Also when she was laying down on her stomach she felt someone pushing down on her back with some force. I think I will put a camera in the bedroom at night and see if I can catch anything. My husband and I had that room as our bedroom when we had first moved in, and nothing ever happened when we were in there. But since we moved my daughter in there every night she will get up and come crawl into bed with us. Maybe she is just having some seperation issues or maybe something is bothering her. Don't know. Hopefully we can figure it out.
coldethyl
May 14 2007, 04:28 PM
Actually if you have a static charge in the air, like from an oncoming electrical storm, the chances of the toys going off at the same time is very great.
ToxicLogic
May 15 2007, 06:57 PM
We had beautiful weather the entire time she was here. And it wasn't like all of the toys were going off at the same time, just 2 or 3. And trust me my children have ALOT more toys than that that make noise.
coldethyl
May 15 2007, 07:27 PM
Well it wouldn't set everything off, just whichever ones reacted to the charge. There would be numerous factors. When my son was a baby we had a toy that would go off like that on it's own and it had to do with electrical charges or static in the air.
I'm just giving you logical reasons why things could have happened. If you want to hear 'haunted' you're not going to hear it from me. I don't know one way or the other but I do know that the things you're talking about are not 'unexplainable'. Don't become hostile because I can offer explanations that you may not have been aware of.
ToxicLogic
May 16 2007, 05:09 PM
If I came off as hostile, I am sorry, I am anything but hostile. I am completely open to everyones ideas and explanations. Honestly I would prefer it not to be haunted. I thank you for your input. The electrical charge and static thing I was unaware of. The things that I am talking about are unexplainable to me. That is why I am here. To have others give me suggestions and ideas so that I can explain them. Thank you for your explainations.
coldethyl
May 16 2007, 05:43 PM
^ No problem.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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