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Armoured-Fury
I predicted the death of my grandad..

I had a dream that i was in a hospital standing next to a hospital bed and in the bed my grandad was laying.. He had a yellowish tinge to his skin and i could sense that he was seriously ill.. Something wrong with his liver...

Any way i awoke and didn't really think anything of it... That weekend he was rushed into hospital with internal bleeding... Turns out he had liver cancer and he died shortly after..

In a way i blame myself.. My mum (it was her dad) was so devistated and i tell myself that i could have warned people earlier to maybe save him but i didn't because i thought it was just a dream...
Lady_Anvilabeel
That must have been a difficult dream to deal with sad.gif ...but you shouldn't be so hard on yourself. Liver cancer doesn't become life threating over night... he must have had it for a while and was just ready to go.
Armoured-Fury
Well if he had it then i sure as hell didn't know about it until i had that dream then found out he'd died..
Shankpin
BUT, even if you HAD told your mother, there would have been nothing you could have done to make your grandfather well.. or prevent his death. Apparently, he was already in the last stages, and well unto death. Like Anvil said too, don't be too hard on yourself, there was nothing you could have done about it anyway.

Armoured-Fury
Just.. It makes me cry some times you know..?

My mum has had so much crap for over 20 years of her life... Terminal illnesses, my dad treatin her like scum every day of her life.. Sufferin from breast cancer, disabled... That hurts me every day of my life..

Then one day she phones you.. Crying.. Telling u that her dad has died and she was too busy trying to get help to save him.. She didn't even get to tell him she loved him or say goodbye... It hurts me so much..

My dad didn't even go to the funeral with her.. To comfort her and hold her and tell her everythin was gonna be ok...

Fills me with such bitterness and sadness and pain so i guess the prediction makes me feel bad...

You know.. You love somebody for over 20 years of your life.. They keep hurting you over and over.. U tell urself that things will get better.. But then years pass and things get worse.. No matter how long you forgive them.. No matter how many times.. One day u realise that it just doesn't matter any more nothing will change...

These song lyrics make me think of her especialy when it all happened...


"These wounds wont seem to heal.. This pain is just too real.. There's just too much that time cannot erase.... I've tried so hard to tell myself that you're gone.. And though you're still with me, i've been alone all along..."

Especialy the rock/ full band version..When the rock kicks in it's so powerful and emotional like total chaos and pain like she feels inside her..


Sorry to say all that but i'm just telling you what fuels my guilt -.-
Shankpin
QUOTE(Armoured-Fury @ Mar 23 2007, 10:52 PM) [snapback]1597372[/snapback]
Just.. It makes me cry some times you know..?

My mum has had so much crap for over 20 years of her life... Terminal illnesses, my dad treatin her like scum every day of her life.. Sufferin from breast cancer, disabled... That hurts me every day of my life..

Then one day she phones you.. Crying.. Telling u that her dad has died and she was too busy trying to get help to save him.. She didn't even get to tell him she loved him or say goodbye... It hurts me so much..

My dad didn't even go to the funeral with her.. To comfort her and hold her and tell her everythin was gonna be ok...

Fills me with such bitterness and sadness and pain so i guess the prediction makes me feel bad...

You know.. You love somebody for over 20 years of your life.. They keep hurting you over and over.. U tell urself that things will get better.. But then years pass and things get worse.. No matter how long you forgive them.. No matter how many times.. One day u realise that it just doesn't matter any more nothing will change...

These song lyrics make me think of her especialy when it all happened...
"These wounds wont seem to heal.. This pain is just too real.. There's just too much that time cannot erase.... I've tried so hard to tell myself that you're gone.. And though you're still with me, i've been alone all along..."


Bless your heart and your mother. My immortel, I love the song-- always will be a favorite of mine.
Look, (two years ago) I lost my mother to breast cancer, and just 13 days later walked in and found my father dead (unexpectedly) in his bed. He died with massive heartattack.. I just got my father back after staying a hard core alcholic my entire life.. he was clean for two months when he passed. My God, I wasn't ready for that!! I screamed.. "not now" those exact words at that moment I saw him.
I knew he was going with premonitions-- odd knowings.. and it did prepare me. If it hadn't not been for those signs (for me personally) and I found him, I would have prob. lost my mind at that point.. I was devastated. With my mother, at her death, I knew she was at peace. Her life was bitter hard.. and unfair.... a shame. I am just now accepting that with my father as well. It has taken me a long time to accept his death. I loved him so, and wasn't ready to see him go. I had so much to make up for.... and didn't get the chance..
But, you see, we will. They are at peace, and this is what you let your mother know. They are in much better place than we are. Really. I know I will see them again, in perfection and not in this hurtfull place. That's my feelings on it.
Don't hold bitterness, it will eventually get to you. You can't afford that and it's not worth it. If you're father is that type of person he's not one you want to console anyone, imo. Let the bitterness go. Nothing is your fault. Its obvious you care about her, and im sure are there for her.. that's where your blessings are at...
Armoured-Fury
I'm so sorry to hear that.. I'm not the sort of person who thinks "MY problems are most important in this world!" i know that there are people out there 50 times worse off than myself.
Shankpin
Well, I dont assume that of you at all. I was telling you that we all experience death, and there is nothing we can change about it. We should not be bitter, or hold guilt about anything... we can attempt to deal with, and help those that need our help in the grieving... ya' know? Somebody out there can understand.. even if you don't know them. :}
Armoured-Fury
I don't know what to think any more.. Why DID I predict his death??? I even told my mum on the phone when she called me..
The Silver Thong
QUOTE(Armoured-Fury @ Mar 23 2007, 10:37 PM) [snapback]1597420[/snapback]
I don't know what to think any more.. Why DID I predict his death??? I even told my mum on the phone when she called me..



You said it was liver cancer and that he seemed yellow, was he a drinker and if so a heavy drinker? You might have seen the signs because you saw the cause of why he might have died. I'm sorry for your loss but if this applies, it might be why you saw it comming.
Armoured-Fury
I had not seen him for over 10 years so i very much doubt it...
Blueguardian
QUOTE(Armoured-Fury @ Mar 24 2007, 02:52 PM) [snapback]1597372[/snapback]
Just.. It makes me cry some times you know..?

My mum has had so much crap for over 20 years of her life... Terminal illnesses, my dad treatin her like scum every day of her life.. Sufferin from breast cancer, disabled... That hurts me every day of my life..

Then one day she phones you.. Crying.. Telling u that her dad has died and she was too busy trying to get help to save him.. She didn't even get to tell him she loved him or say goodbye... It hurts me so much..

My dad didn't even go to the funeral with her.. To comfort her and hold her and tell her everythin was gonna be ok...

Fills me with such bitterness and sadness and pain so i guess the prediction makes me feel bad...

You know.. You love somebody for over 20 years of your life.. They keep hurting you over and over.. U tell urself that things will get better.. But then years pass and things get worse.. No matter how long you forgive them.. No matter how many times.. One day u realise that it just doesn't matter any more nothing will change...

These song lyrics make me think of her especialy when it all happened...
"These wounds wont seem to heal.. This pain is just too real.. There's just too much that time cannot erase.... I've tried so hard to tell myself that you're gone.. And though you're still with me, i've been alone all along..."

Especialy the rock/ full band version..When the rock kicks in it's so powerful and emotional like total chaos and pain like she feels inside her..
Sorry to say all that but i'm just telling you what fuels my guilt -.-


dont feel guilty, by the time you had the dream it was already too late to change anything, i know its harsh to have a dream about something and it becomes true and you couldnt do anything about it, if you feel angry at yourself dont, whats there to achieve with that.

i think it was more of a warning a message to you to let you know, instead of having a great shock, but you must not blame yourself , cancer can be hell in a word my Nana had it and she died ,she suffered for a long time.

since it wasnt noticed earlier, maybe he didnt suffer as much as so many other people do. listen he will be happy and he will be watching over you always, we must come to accept death, it happens, we can be sad its ok , but we must be strong.

My Condolences
hippi
A couple of months before my father died, I had a dream about his death. The dream was so disturbing I thought that I should go check on my father, but I heard him in the bathroom and knew that he was alright. Nevertheless, the dream still bothered me.

I didn't understand what the dream meant, but after he had died, I realized that the dream had symbolically depicted the circumstances surrounding his death. I don't like to talk too much about this however; I was with him when he died, and it was a very difficult ordeal.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Armoured-Fury @ Mar 23 2007, 09:52 PM) [snapback]1597372[/snapback]
Just.. It makes me cry some times you know..?

My mum has had so much crap for over 20 years of her life... Terminal illnesses, my dad treatin her like scum every day of her life.. Sufferin from breast cancer, disabled... That hurts me every day of my life....

My dad didn't even go to the funeral with her.. To comfort her and hold her and tell her everythin was gonna be ok...

Fills me with such bitterness and sadness and pain ....
hey AF...
I'm not sure about the precognative aspects of the dream(may very well be) but one thing I do know is that some greif counceling may be in order (or support group) obviously growing up in a broken home has left some emotional scars (not uncommon) and maybe Dad feels that his presence at the funeral may been considered inappropriate based on past hostilities.....(I know the feeling).........B
Armoured-Fury
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Mar 24 2007, 03:17 PM) [snapback]1597958[/snapback]
hey AF...
I'm not sure about the precognative aspects of the dream(may very well be) but one thing I do know is that some greif counceling may be in order (or support group) obviously groing up in a broken home has left some emotional scars (not uncommon) and maybe Dad feels that his presence at the funeral may been considered inappropriate based on past hostilities.....(I know the feeling).........B


Yeh thanks, guys.. I was a little drunk last night and yeh when that happens i allow myself to feel stuff so it's my own fault really that i got carried away.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Armoured-Fury @ Mar 24 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]1598292[/snapback]
Yeh thanks, guys.. I was a little drunk last night and yeh when that happens I allow myself to feel stuff so it's my own fault really that I got carried away.
So don't consider it a bad thing(sharing feelings here)...of course getting drunk for me often just amplified my emotions...but thats me.....B
Armoured-Fury
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Mar 24 2007, 09:17 PM) [snapback]1598358[/snapback]
So don't consider it a bad thing(sharing feelings here)...of course getting drunk for me often just amplified my emotions...but thats me.....B



Yeh i just hate sharing my problems because i know others have problems as well and it doesn't feel fair.
dmurdock36
I knew when my grandmother was going to die, I think it is because we were so close. She had back trouble and she had been in the hospital many times but nothing serious, but the last time she went in it was just an ordinary appointment but I remember somehow just knowing she wouldnt be coming home this time, I even called my sister in Memphis and told her she needed to come see her before she passed. and sure enough 3 days later she was gone.
Armoured-Fury
QUOTE(dmurdock36 @ Mar 24 2007, 09:28 PM) [snapback]1598376[/snapback]
I knew when my grandmother was going to die, I think it is because we were so close. She had back trouble and she had been in the hospital many times but nothing serious, but the last time she went in it was just an ordinary appointment but I remember somehow just knowing she wouldnt be coming home this time, I even called my sister in Memphis and told her she needed to come see her before she passed. and sure enough 3 days later she was gone.


Yeh i wasn't really close to my grandad, rarely saw him, etc..

So to have this dream one night out of the blue was just not a co-insidence.

It is kinda bad when you get a premanition about a loved one dying knowing you can't do anything to stop it. Problem is the human brain is always sceptical about what it believes to be real and what it thinks is your imagination so you need to draw the line some where and you obviously did. I mean it could happen to anybody and you could quickly phone a relative and they may think you're a fruitcake or something so it's tricky really..

I'm sorry for your loss any way.
Lady_Anvilabeel
Armoured, some things are just unknown, it's impossible for anyone to say why you were given this info in the dream but it gives you further confirmation that you are receptive to such things, take that and make as much use of it as you can. I know these things can be a mind screw but there is a reason somewhere, there is the good and the bad that comes with such thing....... You asked me in another thread how do you know it's real or hallucination, all i can say with these things is the key is confirmation.
Armoured-Fury
QUOTE(Anvil @ Mar 24 2007, 11:09 PM) [snapback]1598493[/snapback]
Armoured, some things are just unknown, it's impossible for anyone to say why you were given this info in the dream but it gives you further confirmation that you are receptive to such things, take that and make as much use of it as you can. I know these things can be a mind screw but there is a reason somewhere, there is the good and the bad that comes with such thing....... You asked me in another thread how do you know it's real or hallucination, all i can say with these things is the key is confirmation.



I want to look further into my possible gift but it's kinda hard because for example.. I could say "right you CAN see spirits!!" then i may start imagining things so you have to be careful really..

Is it possible for a poltegeist to haunt a particular flat in a 20 story apartment block? Because i think i may have a mild one here that has something to do with that black entity i spoke of.
Hawkmason
well i predicted The Wrestler Owen Hearts Death

and i Predicted Anna Nicole Smiths death because she wanted to be the Maralyn Monroe so bad that she even dies mysteriously
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Hawkmason @ Mar 24 2007, 09:50 PM) [snapback]1598787[/snapback]
well i predicted The Wrestler Owen Hearts Death

and i Predicted Anna Nicole Smiths death because she wanted to be the Maralyn Monroe so bad that she even dies mysteriously
Owen Hart died when he became 'the Blue Blazer".....he died inside.....B
Hawkmason
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Mar 25 2007, 12:08 AM) [snapback]1598806[/snapback]
Owen Hart died when he became 'the Blue Blazer".....he died inside.....B


well his real name is Owen Hart, so Owen Hart still died
Kazahel
I once predicted the death of a friend. I had a dream where he was ghost like and was acting really strangely and I just knew he was dead. In the dream an ambulance man came up and was very sad and wanted me to leave them so he could be with my friend. So I walked off stage. Anyway about 3 or 4 days later the same friend died in a car crash and was found by an ambulance driver who was actually his father in real life(I didnt know that either until afterwards). And I had told about 20 to 30 people the day after I dreamt it because it did spin me out, but everyone just laughed and said they wished because he owed most of them money. After he died everyone did comment on my prediction but it just kinda got forgotten about because we had a couple of funerals to go to(two died in the crash but I only dreamt of one).. I think I dreamt of his death because we were kinda like blood brothers in some ways just before it all happened. But it's kinda hard to explain though.
Armoured-Fury
QUOTE(Kazahel @ Mar 25 2007, 05:58 AM) [snapback]1598854[/snapback]
I once predicted the death of a friend. I had a dream where he was ghost like and was acting really strangely and I just knew he was dead. In the dream an ambulance man came up and was very sad and wanted me to leave them so he could be with my friend. So I walked off stage. Anyway about 3 or 4 days later the same friend died in a car crash and was found by an ambulance driver who was actually his father in real life(I didnt know that either until afterwards). And I had told about 20 to 30 people the day after I dreamt it because it did spin me out, but everyone just laughed and said they wished because he owed most of them money. After he died everyone did comment on my prediction but it just kinda got forgotten about because we had a couple of funerals to go to(two died in the crash but I only dreamt of one).. I think I dreamt of his death because we were kinda like blood brothers in some ways just before it all happened. But it's kinda hard to explain though.



Yeh i totaly understand.. Did you even speak to your friend before the accident and after your dream?
rassy
When I was about 7 or 8, and we were on one of our Sunday drives (every Sunday we would all go for a scenic drive as a family), on the way home I just blurted out, " Dad, your father just died". I don't know why I said it. I wasn't planning to say anything at all and it just came out without me even thinking. I was pretty bewildered why I would say that and I got a good smack for it, too. When we got home, my parents found out that my dad's family was trying to call all afternoon as his dad did pass away. I won't ever know why this happened with me, and I've never had any other incidents where I remotely predicted anything. I wasn't even close to my grandfather, as he lived overseas and I had only met him maybe 2 times.
Kazahel
QUOTE(Armoured-Fury @ Mar 25 2007, 01:03 PM) [snapback]1598859[/snapback]
Yeh i totaly understand.. Did you even speak to your friend before the accident and after your dream?

No not really.. he wasnt there when I told everyone but I think he got wind of it later through them. I did dream of him a few months after he died though, he was showing me around this place.. like hell kinda, which was just a busy government office looking place which you had to que up lots. Like you would stand in one que then get told to move to the next big que.. which was a bummer... so we knicked off and took a lift up to the roof and sat out and looked over the city for awhile... he was telling me how it wasnt so bad and how we shouldnt be up on the roof but he wanted to show me anyway. Then on our way back down the lift gave way and we fell into like the workings under the lift, which killed him again, while I managed to dodge it by jumping off just in time.. And I never dreamt of him again.


googiboo
Hi Armoured-Fury . I have had a similar experience as yourself. With my experiences, I knew people had died before being told. Its happened 3 times, 2 of which i have witnesses that can verify my story. I have posted my experiences on a different thread. Before it happened, i didnt really believe in such things, but as it occurred more, i realized there was something going on.
At the time, its weird to try and explain how you knew. I felt crap afterwards when i realized what had happened to me. I thought why the hell cant i foresee the lotto numbers instead, this sucks lol. I wasn't really that close to the people that passed away. It would be harder for you cause you were. Dont let it weigh on you mind though. You couldn't have changed anything.
At some point though, i chose to embrace it. If you wish to do the same, just listen to your feelings. And if you have a close friend you feel totally comfortable with, confide your feelings to them.
I had another experience this week, i had a very weird dream that i was in very bad a car accident in a tunnel. I woke up and looked on the news, and there was a huge accident in a tunnel that had just happened, that killed 3 people. It happened not too far away.
Now some might say that it was a coincidence. Now that could be true. But i have learned to trust my instincts.
In closing, ill just say this, be mindful of your feelings. OK, i dont mean to sound like Yoda lol, but that is the best advice i could give you

Hope it all works out. If you have any questions or anything like that, feel free to PM me
Armoured-Fury
QUOTE(googiboo @ Mar 25 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]1598949[/snapback]
Hi Armoured-Fury . I have had a similar experience as yourself. With my experiences, I knew people had died before being told. Its happened 3 times, 2 of which i have witnesses that can verify my story. I have posted my experiences on a different thread. Before it happened, i didnt really believe in such things, but as it occurred more, i realized there was something going on.
At the time, its weird to try and explain how you knew. I felt crap afterwards when i realized what had happened to me. I thought why the hell cant i foresee the lotto numbers instead, this sucks lol. I wasn't really that close to the people that passed away. It would be harder for you cause you were. Dont let it weigh on you mind though. You couldn't have changed anything.
At some point though, i chose to embrace it. If you wish to do the same, just listen to your feelings. And if you have a close friend you feel totally comfortable with, confide your feelings to them.
I had another experience this week, i had a very weird dream that i was in very bad a car accident in a tunnel. I woke up and looked on the news, and there was a huge accident in a tunnel that had just happened, that killed 3 people. It happened not too far away.
Now some might say that it was a coincidence. Now that could be true. But i have learned to trust my instincts.
In closing, ill just say this, be mindful of your feelings. OK, i dont mean to sound like Yoda lol, but that is the best advice i could give you

Hope it all works out. If you have any questions or anything like that, feel free to PM me



I wasn't close to my grandad either and rarely saw him and then i left home and didn't see him since that was over 7 years ago. It does suck when you witness these things and then they happen. There is nothing you can do as most wouldn't believe you if you warned them.
googiboo
Hi Armoured-Fury. Ive been fortunate enough, that when it happened to me, i was able to tell others around me before it happened. But I dont think its about proving it to the whole world. I mean, it does help when you are trying to tell someone about it. Its more about realizing what you are seeing.

cheers
Barek Halfhand
I have been mulling this over since it was an OP...then got sidetracked by the Hart Foundation....... someones death as a premonition?... unsure...but I did know that a former workmate of mine passed away due to diabetes complications... he suffered from it through the 10 years we worked together I ran into another mutual employee one afternoon, and I was compelled to ask him about "Johnny" and he sort of flinched and said very softly"Johnny died dude"......b
Armoured-Fury
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Mar 25 2007, 05:43 PM) [snapback]1599264[/snapback]
I have been mulling this oversince it was an OP...then got sidetracked by the Hart Foundation....... someones death as a premonition?... unsure...but I did know that a former workmate of mine passed away due to diabetes complications... he suffered from a through the 10 years we worked together I ran into another mutual employee one afternoon, and I was compelled to ask him about "Johny" and he sort of flinched and said very softly"Johny died dude"......b



Yeh i think it's really nice, not in a sick way, when somebody dies and, especialy guys, and they aint trying to act all matcho about it as though they don't really care, it takes compassion and i respect that.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Armoured-Fury @ Mar 25 2007, 03:02 PM) [snapback]1599477[/snapback]
Yeh i think it's really nice, not in a sick way, when somebody dies and, especialy guys, and they aint trying to act all matcho about it as though they don't really care, it takes compassion and i respect that.
I wasnt immediately shocked because he didnt exacly take the best care of himself as well so admittedly there is some common sense to be applied here for sure but on the other hand I REALLY fealt like I KNEW......

a few things AF:
made it easy -numbered- some can be yes or no..

1)have you ever been jolted good by electricity?
2)any NDEs ?(near death experience)
3)first paranormal experience around 5 or 6? (sorry if covered)
4)any head injuries?
5) what type of musical instrument do you play?
yes serious!
Armoured-Fury


1)have you ever been jolted good by electricity? A few times but not major jolts.. In my teens i learned that i could some how effect electrical things such as televisions and other things

2)any NDEs ?(near death experience) No i don't believe so..

3)first paranormal experience around 5 or 6? My parents told me that i'd speak of a Victorian time man with a tall hat and children coming into my room at night and i'd let them play with my toys as they were poor.. They also said that some times they'd walk into my room and i'd sit up staring straight ahead "like a vampire" as they described it, some times talking a language they didn't understand..

4)any head injuries? Yes i had one when i wsa hit by a car the day after my 11th birthday (and a few from bouncing off the bed as a child)

5) what type of musical instrument do you play? I play a keyboard


Do bumps on the head and electric shocks mean my mind may just be messed up or something?
Episteme
I had a dream about events surrounding a girl that had been murdered close to where I lived. It tied in almost exactly to what happened directly after she was killed, there were some very specific and unusual occurances, I was shocked when checked the news the next day. Tying it in, I must have had the dream just hours before the events happened. It creeped me out and honestly, I have no interest in developing anything like that, I'd rather leave that to other people and read about it here! It all comes down to what you want to do with it.
Armoured-Fury
QUOTE(Episteme @ Mar 26 2007, 12:28 AM) [snapback]1599646[/snapback]
I had a dream about events surrounding a girl that had been murdered close to where I lived. It tied in almost exactly to what happened directly after she was killed, there were some very specific and unusual occurances, I was shocked when checked the news the next day. Tying it in, I must have had the dream just hours before the events happened. It creeped me out and honestly, I have no interest in developing anything like that, I'd rather leave that to other people and read about it here! It all comes down to what you want to do with it.



Very interesting especialy since you didn't know her..
Shankpin
QUOTE(Episteme @ Mar 25 2007, 06:28 PM) [snapback]1599646[/snapback]
I had a dream about events surrounding a girl that had been murdered close to where I lived. It tied in almost exactly to what happened directly after she was killed, there were some very specific and unusual occurances, I was shocked when checked the news the next day. Tying it in, I must have had the dream just hours before the events happened. It creeped me out and honestly, I have no interest in developing anything like that, I'd rather leave that to other people and read about it here! It all comes down to what you want to do with it.


Your dream about the girl being murdered, I've done that but it was when i 13 or 14. I didn't understand it at the moment, shrugged it off as a bad dream- then it was on the news (local) and the newspaper..The incident was a big deal here... I even knew her real name in the dream, how she died, and with who she died, where, what she was wearing etc,. There was nothing I didn't know. She even shown me a bottle of perfume that sat on the mantle above the fireflace where she was killed...I still remember how it smelt. I knew things that were never even reported in the media.. I dreamed about it hours before the incident took place ... After this happend i was scared.
Armoured-Fury
QUOTE(Sunny98 @ Mar 26 2007, 12:57 AM) [snapback]1599681[/snapback]
Your dream about the girl being murdered, I've done that but it was when i 13 or 14. I didn't understand it at the moment, shrugged it off as a bad dream- then it was on the news (local) and the newspaper..The incident was a big deal here... I even knew her real name in the dream, how she died, and with who she died, where, what she was wearing etc,. There was nothing I didn't know. She even shown me a bottle of perfume that sat on the mantle above the fireflace where she was killed...I still remember how it smelt. I knew things that were never even reported in the media.. I dreamed about it hours before the incident took place ... After this happend i was scared.



That's exactly when a dream means something.. When you can smell things, describe things in such detail, describe a persons face and hair and body and clothing even months after having the dream.
coldethyl
I think all dreams have meaning.
Episteme
I think this thread actually triggered a bad dream, or maybe it was trying to remember the details of the other dream.

I had one the other night that I was walking over a tall bridge near where I used to live and my mother fell through a weakened area. I looked over the edge and she waved to me. Thinking she was ok, I warned the people walking behind us and made sure they knew about the weak area before running down to help her. When I got to the bottom I found her not breathing, pulled her up and had to do CPR for what seemed like forever. She finally opened her eyes right before the alarm woke me up.

If she falls through a hole in a bridge I think it would make me crazy. I hate dreams like that, wondering if you should tell the person. I decided a big no for that one. hmm.gif
Shankpin
I hadn't seen or spoke to my mother for a year or so and I had a nightmare about her out of the blue. One that will be with me for the rest of my life--- similar to the the others that i've had that will stay with me from now on, I suppose.

I dreamed I went into my house and the house was burning up with intense heat, I could feel it burn my face. I couldn't breath. I smelled an awful smell. Something of vile, but I couldn't figure out what it was. So, im going to each room of my house looking for where this smell is coming from and the heat. I finally made it to my bedroom door, and went into my bathroom. There I had a huge garden tub. (sigh) ........... inside that tub was my mother cut into pieces. and blood was all over the place. That is where it was all coming from , the heat and the smell. I woke up, and started pacing back and forth.. as I do after having one of these so called- dreams...
The next day around 11 am.. my mother calls me from NC unexpectedly.. and says Dr.s in an emergency had just removed both of her breast due to breast cancer... and her prognosis wasn't good. She had waited a long time before she got checked, by then, it was almost too late.
Because of this dream, I was prepared for this phone call and the devastating news about my mother. It's terrible, and foul, but it's my experience, and I am sharing it. crying.gif
greggK
QUOTE(Armoured-Fury @ Mar 23 2007, 08:49 PM) [snapback]1597298[/snapback]
I predicted the death of my grandad..

I had a dream that i was in a hospital standing next to a hospital bed and in the bed my grandad was laying.. He had a yellowish tinge to his skin and i could sense that he was seriously ill.. Something wrong with his liver...

Any way i awoke and didn't really think anything of it... That weekend he was rushed into hospital with internal bleeding... Turns out he had liver cancer and he died shortly after..

In a way i blame myself.. My mum (it was her dad) was so devistated and i tell myself that i could have warned people earlier to maybe save him but i didn't because i thought it was just a dream...


This is my story:

I had an aquaintance that went through junior high with me and he had a cool brother and an even cooler sister. Anyway, both of us were in some kind of accident. He was in a motorcycle accident and spent the remaining years of his life on a respirator in a nursing home. As for me, I was in a car wreck and I spent 6 months in a coma and came out of it. That was in 1978. We both had head injuries and his obviously was too much for him to handle. Anyway, I would visit him at the nursing home sometime during each week and I really got upset and sad that I could get no response from him. I really gave up ever seeing him out of that state. I went in one day and looked into his eyes and said, 'Joe, these people love you. What you need to do is leave and give them some peace. I love you too, Joe.'
The next day, he died.
See, when people have finished their time on this earth, when they have done what they need to do, there is really no benefit other than to the living that they are kept alive. I'm sure that a trained individual would have reported what you saw in your dreams or they may have done more tests or somehow kept him alive longer, but cancer is a long drawn out process that usually ends with death.
Please don't blame yourself. It was his message to you that he was going because he had a problem with his liver.
Just remember, you will see him again. It may be in a shopping center somewhere and you will walk by somebody and suddenly, they'll turn around and look at you and say, 'Don't I know you from somewhere?' You'll think for a moment and say, 'No, I don't think so.' But, the connection will be made.
Armoured-Fury
Hey i'm sorry to hear that, man..

My mum just got over breast cancer but the cancer's come back which really sucks sad.gif

I had a very similar dream that really upset me..

I was back home and it was the night my dad beat my mum up (which he did by the way.. sad.gif ) but this time i went downstairs and saw him doing it.. He was butchering her she was screaming and he was hacking her with a long bladed knife or something.. Even when she was dead he just kept on doing it.. One of the most horrific dreams i've ever had.. Just seein her lay on the floor with her eyes wide open in fear, dead, blood every where.. Really upset me..

A dream i had prior to that a year or so before.. I was in the back of the car with my parents driving down this country road.. My dad was driving and my mum was in the passanger seat.. Any way all of a sudden the car veared and was suddenly hanging over this ditch but the ditch was like over 70 ft deep and the car was slipping.. So i made my way to the boot of the car and climbed out the back window and then edged back in to pull my parents out..
I couldn't pull them out in time.. Last thing i remember was the car giving way.. My dad just had a blank expression on his face, just staring... I can still hear the screams of my mum as the car smashed into the sides of the ditch as it plumited down i had tears in my eyes when i woke up -.-
aussiemermaid
I remeber when my great grandmother went into hospital, im not sure why, but i didnt get to go see her before she pasted, i organised to go the weekend after she died...a little too late!
Anyway, The night she passed i had a dream that i was all by myself and visited her in her hospital room,which she was sharing with a male patient on a ventilater (this is what i saw in my dream). She was on life support and i dreamt that i walked up to her, told her i loved her kissed her on the forhead and switch the life support off.
The next morning when found out she did pass, i was in shock.
My nan then told me how she had to go up to the hospital to pick up all her stuff and, in fact my great grandmother was sharing a room with a male pateint using a ventilator.

Also, last year, my Pop passed away. I went to my first ever live Manly Seaeagles (NRL)- my pop's dads and my faviout team who versed the West Tigers (my boyfriends team who he plays for) the whole night i was so excited becuase i had finally gone to their home game and i felt my pop was with me and was sitting wearing the eagles gear in amoungst all the tigers supporters. The eagles came off winning!
The next morning i found out my pop passed that night, and he even watched the game on live tv. I was happy that he got to watch his team one last time and to see them win was a bonus...appart that my boyfriend was cranky he lost...!

I believe when you have a connection with someone, you can sence things. Ask your mum or dad or bother or sister or friend if they have ever senced your hurt or in pain...
Armoured-Fury
I've not spoken to my dad for like 7 years so yeh but i could always ask my mum since she's the only one i can really talk to without him knowing.
Saint
QUOTE(Armoured-Fury @ Mar 24 2007, 02:49 AM) [snapback]1597298[/snapback]
In a way i blame myself..


Liver cancer is a swift and silent killer. My father was diagnosed with it at the beginning of Jan 1989 and by March 1989 he was dead. He'd obviously also had it for a long time, and not known. You MUST NOT blame yourself Armoured Fury!!

As for the dream it was probably your grandad talking to you about it, to help you through it and to help you help your mum!!


Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Armoured-Fury @ Mar 28 2007, 11:00 PM) [snapback]1604304[/snapback]
I've not spoken to my dad for like 7 years so yeh but i could always ask my mum since she's the only one i can really talk to without him knowing.

so maybe its time you two spoke!..... hmm.gif ....
also there is much to said for the power of positive thinking as far as Moms cancer goes..... if you and her BOTH concentrate hard on fighting this thing I think it may help ......not in place of medical treatment of course, but as a way of elevating her (and your) spirits during this struggle.....B
:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR:
Not often, but once in a blue moon, I will dream something that is so striking, I know it has meaning. A few years back, we had stray cats around the neighborhood and my mother usually feeds them something almost on a daily basis. Over time, a few of them came to trust us, to the point we could pet them and such.

One of them became pregnant and we knew that because she could roll around by the time she was close to term. She got her litter, but it was somewhere in the woods, since she came by from time to time for some food, but was skinny again. So weeks went by, and one night, I had this dream where the cat has brought in three kittens to the doorstep. I was so happy to see them. Once was a black and white cat, and the two other were striped, raccoon-like colors. After what felt like a few minutes of playing with the kittens, I woke up. While I was preparing to leave for college, I described my dream to my mother, including the number of kittens, their colors, etc.

No more than 10 minutes after that conversation, I walked outside to find the cat outside. She was meowing frantically. I tried to approach her, but she was in a panic. I couldn't understand why. I turned around the corner between the patio and my mother's truck and I noticed a kitten. A black and white kitten. It had blood on it. It was motionless. The cat brought her dead kitten to us in attempts to rescue her child! When I got closer to the kitten, something else caught my eye under the truck. I was shocked. Two more kittens, they were both stiped, in raccoon-like colors, also bloody and motionless. I didn't know what to think. I dreamt these kittens alive and happy in my dream, only to find out they had been attacked and killed by something overnight. I hurried to get my mother. She couldn't believe it either.

It's not an occurance that happens often, but it wasn't my first time this time of situation happened nor it was the last. Most cases, the dreams itself are depicting something that doesn't make sense, but when the event in question happens, I understand, but usually when it's too late to do something.

So, that's my only instance of a dream related to death, although I didn't see them dead. The day I start predicting deaths, and it's human, it's the day I check myself into a psychiatric ward.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR: @ Mar 29 2007, 09:07 AM) [snapback]1604746[/snapback]
No more than 10 minutes after that conversation, I walked outside to find the cat outside. She was meowing frantically. I tried to approach her, but she was in a panic. I couldn't understand why. I turned around the corner between the patio and my mother's truck and I noticed a kitten. A black and white kitten. It had blood on it. It was motionless. The cat brought her dead kitten to us in attempts to rescue her child! When I got closer to the kitten, something else caught my eye under the truck. I was shocked. Two more kittens, they were both stiped, in raccoon-like colors, also bloody and motionless. I didn't know what to think. I dreamt these kittens alive and happy in my dream, only to find out they had been attacked and killed by something overnight. I hurried to get my mother. She couldn't believe it either..
yo!
I heard someone else describe a similar dream involving dead animals that he equated to it representing a issue he had about hunting and his
conflicting love for animals...OR did you happen to see an animal on the side of the road recently that may have subconsciously saddened you?...dreams are always good for at least some profound symbolism....B
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