I know that there are plenty of posts about fallen angels. I want to know locations of fallen angels true or proven fakes. I want to hear what everyone knows about this subject.

Proving anything in the supernatural realm is next to impossible, so all I can tell you is according to some scriptures they were cast to the earth. They could be anywhere.

Do you think that there are some still out there, if there was any at all or could they all have been eliminated by the great flood told of in the bible.

This is in completey the wrong section, and should be in Ancient History.



Think about what you just said. For the locations to be proven real, it means angels would have to be scientifically proven to be real. This has never happened, and never will happen, because - yep - they don't exist. And a 2000 year old book saying otherwise is not proof.

The angels fell a long time ago and have since died. Their spirits have passed into mortal bodies etc etc.
So there's people out there with the souls/spirits of angels.
Woo!

and a person like you saying that they are not real is not proof of their non existance either...

i'm sure there are tons of fallen angels still on earth... i doubt if any of them were drowned in the flood... for all we know, they don't even breathe oxygen...

i don't think they have found any bodies... and if they have... they would surely cover them up because it was destroy that religion that they call evolution...

I hope you don't mean the Bible, because the Bible isn't 2000 years old.

That would explain Hitler, among other historic figures bent on world domination.

interesting to note that angels are quantified in weight...why is their drowning doubtful if we simply do not know?
also evolution is not a religion.


it cannot be proven that they ever existed.
it cannot be proven that they never existed....i can never prove that Bran never existed, or the mad hatter, or robin hood, or moses, or jesus.
these hinge on belief. or faith.
if you have faith in a system of beliefs that says that they fell, fair dues to you, it cannot be disproven. or proven. like the locations where they fell; these would have to rely on mythical tradition....but since the tradition doesnt stretch as far back as the events it describes.....there is no tradition that locates them....anywhere.
so no we dont know where they fell. assuming they existed. nor will we ever....unless we ask god when we meet him...assuming he exists.
such things are not mentioned in the bible or any judeo-christian text....not even the apocrypha. and do not exist outside of them either.

all opinion otherwise is speculation, not even based on their faith.
hope im not wide of the mark, or have 'missed the point' of the thread. I thought that the op was intending to compare possible locations to lo cal is ed myths or traditions. (why the spam filter for lo*spam filter*ed?)
a more fruitful search would be identification of fallen angels, and plotting their development from entities in other religions. perhaps.
it is well trodden ground though....and probably quite boring.




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According to Enoch X -- the Lord told Raphael (archangel) "to bind Azazel (fallen angel) hand and feet and bury him/
cast him into the darkness: and make an opening 5 in the desert, which is in Dudael (foot off a cliff in Haradan) or modern day Sanai and cast him therein. And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he may 6,7 not see light."

How about this one?

How about the exact Google Earth Location???




I believe that this might be Lucifer is because this angel is stuck in the side of and Abyss and if you guys go to Google Earth you will see that about 100 miles southwest of Apollyon you will see what is called the Sahara Bulls Eye, this is the exact location were Lucifer slammed against the Earth when he was kicked out of heaven.

Embodiment. I won't say more.

They seem rather big, wouldnt that make heaven (or any other name for it) be huge?

WELL YEAH!! It has to hold like 8,000 years of belivers, (Jews in the old testiment, christians in the new)

And alot of angels, and God!

My opinion fallen angels are negatively influencing us on the earth both internally and externally. I believe they are in charge of the false alien hoax that distant aliens created us from a test tube theory. They can manifest themselves to look like many creatures including your typical grey aliens. I believe most of the angels that fell to earth have left via spacecraft and are located in our galaxy negatively influencing us. They also like to manifest themselves as humans and you can always spot them because they love the glamor and spot light.

Great...Paris Hilton is an angel...just freakin fabulous.

If she was, she'd definitely be the fallen breed.

Lmao, yea I was thinking more like Britney Spears, or Anna Nicole Smith....

^*actually* I was thinking about Elton John...

..This just keeps gettin better and better.

Revelation 9:14
It said to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, "Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates." (http://www.biblegateway.com)

Is this any help?

I chanced upon this book 'Bible Codes Revealed' by Sherry Shriner advocating the same theory. apparently she runs 12 websites and her own Internet talk show on Reality Radio Network. anyone care to shed light on the credibility of this theory?

How come I am not surprised?

Uruk, Eridu, Baalbek, Sidon, Hebron; in other words, this area of the Fertile Crescent.

She also believes Paul was a false prophet

Paul? That woman's crazy!!!

Yeah, I used to read her site a lot. She has some truth in her info, but unfortunately she got so deep into it that the evil is starting to make her believe things that arent true, i have talked to her personally

Yea, well, I'm just curious what would make Paul "false" anyway? To say that doesn't even make sense... it's stupid. desperate even. Why not say Peter, or Mathew? She might as well retire and sit her butt down.

yeah and that jesus fella was just a clever conman! He was a celebrity in his day ( if he ever existed) so wouldnt that make him a fallen angel?

wat kind of truth existed in her info?

I agree with him.It does say in the bible that at the judgement they will be placed on trial just like everyone who walked the earth.

OK so thinking rationally for a moment, and not disputing the existence of Heaven or indeed arguing its existence, why in the name of Kryst the Conqueror would Heaven automatically be above us!? As in In The Sky... That train of belief was invented by people who still believed that the world was flat and that there was nothing beyond our own Earth... Since now we believe that the world is round, and that we are merely floating in a vast, infinite expanse of nothing, surrounded by countless other suns and planets. We've been to space, technically we've sailed right through where Heaven should be. Guess what? It wasn't there!


If there is a Heaven and Hell, they are definitely NOT directly above and below us. That leaves the possibility that they are other realms. Remember Celtic mythology? The faery realm co-existed with our own, only on another plane of existence. In Greek mythology you technically didn't go up or down when you died, but travelled on a boat along the river Styx to one of three places; Tartarus, The Elysian Fields or the other one, that the neame escapes me. Surely an angel cast out of Heaven would not plummet to the earth? Maybe I'm missing something here, but just because of your belief you can't be ignorant to the innovations of science (eg. landing on them oon etc).


This all probably sounds stupid, but I know I've got a point in there somewhere.

Those are clearly terrain features in those pictures. With a little imagination you can see anything in terrain features. Some people think aliens built a face on Mars because a picture NASA took of some mountains resembled a face. NASA went back and took some high resolution pictures of the mountains and debunked that theory. The picture of the face was more convincing than the pictures of "Lucifer".

The person who posted those pictures also linked to a video. The man who claimed to have been in hell in that video is probably a crank looking for attention. I don't believe a word he says.

Even if fallen angels were real you wouldn't have any way of knowing where they were.

Evolution is far from a religion or being perfect , but it sure makes more sense then Christianity.

Evolution isn't a religion, it's an observation. It's a scientific conclusion brought about by man by looking at the fossilised remains of animals, the anatomy of extant animals and coming to a logical conclusion from the evidence that is displayed by the gradual changes exhibited. It also takes into account Heredity and the passing of genes- first observed by... that's right, a Holy Man! Father Gregor Mendel!! Shocking revelation eh?


Religion is an idea that gives inner peace and should teach an individual how to live their lives in a good and humble fashion. It is created by man, written or passed down, and described as being the word of whatever deity the religion is based on. Unfortunately throughout the ages it has been unfairly used by some evil or selfish people (usually of power) as a poor excuse to make the wrong choices- as a facade for their own nefarious intentions. It has also been subjected to ridicule because it gets used to put forth completely unreasonable arguements, when really it existed only as a way for a human to live as a good human (whether you believe it was written only by humans, or inspired by the deity).


You know... it IS completely plausable to subscribe to Christianity AND evolution!! In fact I've known a fair few. It's some stupid ground rule that's been laid by fringe beliefs like Creationism that has created this delusion that you can't worship both Christianity and religion. People should take the Bible for what it is- a collection of fables desgined to teach humans how to live good lives. Why do you think the good guys always triumph? Doesn't sound like real life does it?

You do have some good points there. Heaven like you said is not straight aboves in the clouds. I think that hell is directly below us though. I think it makes perfect sense for it to be located due to the extreme temperature and the heavy magnetic pull it has. From what I have heard if anyone would actually go to the center of the earth and be able to survive they would not be able to leave due to the magnetic pull it had. you would just be going in circles for the rest of you life. As for the heaven aspect, I dont believe there are angels laying around on clouds watchin us. I think that there is a seperate realm for them but is it more likely located in the great expanse above our world.

Have you considered "Angel Falls" in Venezuela