no i dont believe in god to get brownie points with god, i just didnt think i would get this "Bad Karma" so to speak

I didn't mean for my post to sound like an attack - like I was saying you wanted browning points from god.

You know, I believe in karma. And I just believe right now that it might take a while to come back around - its not immediate, or even soon. That's how its working out in my life. I hope it does for you too

Let me give you an account that might get across something to you, about how we can not always anticipate when God has something good planned for us while something bad is happening.

I live with my childrens' father's mother, their grandmother. She does not get along with me, she never passes up a chance to be ugly to me, criticize, tell me I don't know what I am doing, etc... because I do things differently than she does. She hollers, accuses people of doing things they didn't do, won't listen to reason, she's really by anybody's definition, an extremely unpleasant person to live with. I mean, very unpleasant.

So, one night in December, right before Christmas, I think, this last one, '06, I just walked away from her when she was in full attack mode. We had gone rounds, she was trying to tell me how to raise my kids, and while I respect that she raised five kids, and listen to what she says, I don't do everything the way she does. She thinks that because I live in her house, I should take her advice on everything. Nevermind that I pay rent and part of the bills, buy all of my kids' and my food, all their clothes, needs, everything, by myself. I don't ask her for anything, ever. But she is one of those people, who has gotten it into her head that everyone should do things the way she tells them that they should. There is no right way but hers; nothing is up for discussion; you're simply an idiot if you don't see things the way she does. No one knows anything about anything except for her, everyone's stupid, and a liar, etc... There is no discussion with her, she just hollers at you that you're dumb. I am telling you all this so that you understand that a lot of people are in circumstances where things are happening that are not "fair." Of course, I am experiencing the consequences of having children with someone that I was not married to; that's a different conversation, though.

Okay, background given. You understand how frustrated it is possible to be, in this situation. So, on this particular night, I don't remember what it was that I did wrong, but it set her off. I said, "I'm done talking about this." I walked away. I was just over it. I could have done a lot of things, but what I did do was sit in front of the computer. Why? I don't know. I just wanted to be divert my attention to something else. I brought up Google, and typed in, "strange occurences," then, "unexplained stories," then, "unsolved mysteries," then, "historical mysteries," then, "historical hauntings," then, "cryptozoological mysteries." Nothing was really grabbing my attention. I just saw a lot of stories that I was already familiar with. I have always loved to read about weird stuff. Then I tried, "unexplained mysteries."
And I found this place.

Had I not had a reason to sit down and focus my attention on something else, because what I was involved in at the time I recognized to not be productive, I wouldn't know you, or anyone else that I have become friends with here. Because I have really started to value the friendships and discussions that I find here, I think I would be missing out on something great. And I might not ever have known it. Sure, I look up weird stuff all the time. But, maybe I would never have put those two words together and found this place. When you're interested in paranormal things, there is an incredibly long list of words you can combine. Yeah, I probably would have stumbled on it eventually. But because I found it that night, instead of three or six months later, I have had experiences with people here that I would not have had if I had not found it until later. Had I not found it until say, July of this year, I might not have had the conversations with you that I have had, because we met on a thread from a few weeks ago. See what I mean?

I don't know if you will see a point in this, or just think that I am rambling, but it struck me as one example that I could share with you, of how at any time of the day, things can happen that make us seek a different direction. We don't always know what God has up His sleeve. But if you don't find out, you could possibly be missing out on something great.

I'm getting the feeling this is completely fabricated by an attention seeking emo...

It seems to me that you have taken on the role of parenting your mum.....Why do you have to be responsible for her ?? She and your dad should be looking after you and your welfare.....

Sorry but as a mum, alarm bells are going off in my head......

If the OP is an adult, his parents do not have to look out for his welfare. I don't remember, did he say how old he is?

well my mom is weak she just got the "Ok" from her doctor she had colon cancer a year ago so i moved back in with her to help her out

and im not trying to seek attention..i am just at a breaking point...for many years i took a lot of sh** but right now it seems like every ting i ever cared about is falling apart thats all

to me it seems like you're blaming God because PEOPLE don't react to what you did the way YOU wanted them to...

but instead of losing faith in mankind... like i have... you lose faith in God?

i have faith in certain individuals... but mankind as a whole... not so much... i realized a long time ago... it's not God's fault for how people act...

i think someone said it already, but what you are viewing as punishment may indeed be a blessing in disguise... it may be years down the road before you realize it... but maybe there is a reason...

if you believe in God... do you believe in the devil and demons? why not blame them?

why are you blaming God... when He is not the source of your problems...

you should be blaming the people that reacted the way they did... have you asked them why they reacted that way?

here is a quote for you....

"nights i felt like dyin, but i aint cryin, what didn't kill me, made me strong as iron..." Jay Z

and that rings true to me to... because i have felt like that before... but it only made me stronger...

Why you so worried about a FICTIONAL character. I think everyone is wasting their time in believing a "God" because there is no God. Humans created God; God did not create humans.

can you provide a reference to that bit of proof?

don't worry... i'll wait....

Some people believe that you honor God by the ways you treat others, positively. Just a thought.



I can certainly relate to that. I've also come across mean, careless, backstabbing (literally), stupid people. The thing that's keeping my hope intact is those genuinely good people I've known and know in my life. The thing is: When I'm rested, grounded, and full of energy, negative vibes automatically bounce off me. Negative people are basically tired physically, mentally and psychically. They are out of balance. And the things they do will, no doubt, haunt them.

Peace.

Isn't there anyone else around to help with your mum ?? Maybe a grandparent or auntie ??

I can understand why you're feeling like this.....It's a lot of pressure looking after a parent recovering from cancer......You've taken on a lot on your plate, you need support as well......

Hang in there and best of luck.....Things will eventually look up for you, don't give up hope......

That is true, I think, but we are all human and will fail and fall short at some time, it is inevitable. We will not always properly represent Him, having our human shortcomings. People are not the only representatives of God, nor the only way to get to Him, so to lose faith in God altogether when you could reach Him easily yourself if you don't care for the way someone represents Him, would be a loss to the person who decides to give up faith.

QUOTE(dlv @ Mar 29 2007, 11:27 PM) *
Some people believe that you honor God by the ways you treat others, positively.


Actually, I heard this from a good friend, and it really hit me deep. And every time I feel being in a defensive mode or putting my "old" guard on, I just think about what my friend said, and things go smoothly, as if some kind of miracle had just happened. When I open up to another person or comment on their good trait or look with God in mind, they also open up with a smile and so on. It really works, at least for me. Somehow, the other soul could pick up on that good vibe, my good intention. I'm not surprised, however, since this world is full of mystery and wonder.

LOL, you have picked up on the reciprocal nature of one of God's principles. When you use God's nature in the way you deal with people, it creates love and harmony, because that's what God is the Father of. It is true; love creates more love. I feel like a hippie right now.

If God just wanted us to be obedient then he would have made us all robots. The rules are just to keep us out of trouble and keep us from getting at each other's throats while we're down here on the earth. They're not the end all.

God can't eliminate evil. That's why there is evil in the world. Good and evil coexist. You can't have one without the other. We wouldn't even know what was good without evil. People make mistakes. They choose to do evil. Nobody can stop imperfect beings from making mistakes.

God puts hardships in our way to teach us. Life is a series of lessons. The hardships help you grow.

I don't believe in God... and when I die... if he does exist, I'm going to punch him right in the face for being such a jerk.

Good luck with that. Something tells me that will not quite play out the way you imagine it.

You're absolutely right. I don't care.

I certainly understand that point of being broken- Something important, I'd like to add there is something we tend to forget:
One day I woke up and realized my folks were dead- My mother first (cancer) then my father (heart attack)-- just 12 days after my mother I found him unexpectedly. (Both my parents were in their late forties-young). It seems all so hazy now, but the problems I had then dealing with their deaths, weren't near as difficult as the problems I have now. It's even hard to believe I say that. I still go back to a time when I wish I could have appreciated those little things- moments now I'd give my left arm for. You know. Not that you are NOT doing that, or wouldn't...... But, we DONT NEED TO BLAME GOD, we need to stop and smell the roses every once in a while, count our blessings... thank the GOOD LORD the kids are healthy, we have food to eat, people in our lives who care. This sound so drabby, but it's the simple truth. My great grand mother (native) told me once when a tigress goes thru her battles she then earns her stripes. That is how I see it. It's not the difficulty of the battle, but it's how well we fight the battle- what we learned from it- & what we took with us- for these things make us who and what we are... our own definition, our soul prints, our character.
Remember things can always get worse.... absorb the good at the moment you never know how long it may last.

Alllllllllrighty theeeeeen.

Wow, that was a great response!

And I am sorry about your parents.

May God Bless your sweet heart Heather--

It might interest you to know that it was Nietzsche who first said "What does not kill me, makes me stronger"...


^.^

One ought to know the origins of the quotes they use..

whats more important, the origin of the quotes or the quotes themselves. come on.

technically, it's not the same quote-

Actually, he does know who said what he quoted: Jay Z

Well, we can be even more technical and say Fantasia said that in "my baby's momma" song.... she said 'what doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger,' which I agree with that quote.... YEP!



Besides, if he (German) didn't patent it, it don't count.... j/k

If you're going to blame God for everything bad in the world then at least be nice enough to give him credit for everything good that happens as well.