I was talking to my dad the other day and he told me that when i was really young I said to him "I'm happy I chose you guys as parents"....
It has baffled him since.


My question is: Do you think that we really DO choose our path before we're born?

Prob'ly sometimes we can choose and sometimes we are pre-destined.

I'm not really sure. Probably. But sometimes we can be unaware of what is going to happen. :/

Hope that last sentence made sense.

hmm could be true. that is so cute by the way

My parents told me when i was young i said to them that i was very upset they didnt invite me to their wedding when it's a fact i'll be their daughter. At that time i was looking at their wedding album and was crying a river...

Kids say the darndest things?

"Journey of Souls" & "Destiny of Souls".....check these books out, very interesting.

I believe we choose parents and life conditions before our birth, simpli because we need to learn the most on our life path. Children often have flashes of memory from that time.

I think that our future is pre-determined, but because we an infinite amount of choices, we do not always go down a straight path but a curved one.

I'd hate to think my eldest son, who's severely disabled, chose us as parents. What good have we been for him. I find it very hard work and can see no end to it. Other people's kids will grow up and leave home so their parents are free to live their own lives again. I'll never have that.

On the other hand, it has crossed my mind that my son became disabled to 'save' me from my mother...

My mother found it incredibly hard when I left home, took it personally as it I wanted to get away from her when all I was doing was setting up home with my fiance. She's sent me on endless guilt trips because I 'never' visited and 'never' called. I did but she wasn't happy. Her formula was Want It + Got It = Want More! It was annoying that she wanted to see me more but she wasn't willing to make any of the effort; I had to do it!

She's jealous of my positive relationship with my in-laws, she thinks I'm going to run off into the sunset with them thus abandoning her.

And she can't get her head around the fact that when she's elderly and in need of care, I won't be able to do it as I already have my severely disabled child to care for. I know my limits and know I cannot cope with caring for another person. It'll kill me. But the guilt trips ensued about that how she and her sister cared for their parents (I have brothers and we were brought up the old fashioned way - certain things were 'woman's work'), she'd tell me stories of women she 'knew of' but didn't know personally who cared for their mothers and found it 'easy' and she's become a helpless child when it comes to doing familiar tasks and tries to get me to do them for her (I refuse).

So, if children do indeed choose their parents, then I suspect I was chosen for the reasons mentioned above.

Oh, and my youngest son then probably chose us to give us an idea of what it's like brining up a non-disabled child.

Interesting post.

I must admit I do think we chose our parents and a whole load of other stuff.

For instance, someone may choose to be a top class athlete for some reason or another (maybe discipline and to learn how to win and lose graciously), in order to do that they need a good genetic make-up, so the parents they choose would be of such ilk, then they need to live somewhere where they could train etc etc. This is of course, a bit blase, but just giving a sort of really simple possible example.

No one chooses to come here, every one has been forced{not asked}

yeah i agree

I think no. Our environment and genetics greatly effect the type of person we are...we are the products of these things.

For example I'm a lot like my Dad...but I don't think I was like him before I was born. I am like him because I contain half of his genetics, was raised by him, and grew up in the same environment as him.

We don't create the path before we are born...it's created as we go.

We will have to agree to disagree on that lol. I don't think we are ever forced to do anything, advised maybe, but never forced.

Hmm, to think that someone would choose parents that would attempt to cook their child in a frying pan...

Just a theory......

If we choose our life and if before we come here we know our 'energy/soul' what ever it is that makes the individual who it is will continue after death, then choosing a temporary (in the fleeting passage of eternity) life for the experience wouldn't seem as outrageous. Who knows if the soul that does that has a karmic debt to pay off or to teach the parent or the rest of us about caring?

For me the thought of it being a choice prior to birth makes the whole freewill thing make a little more sense. LOL! Everyone has choice at least once we're here we know we have a choice.

Regards,
Mabon.

Good point, perhaps not everything bad has been completely bad...

Have to say a resounding no to this one. You can't chose when you don't exist. Given that i believe our soul, consciousness, self awareness, call it what you will, is an individual construct of our organic self, then I can not see how this is possible . Logically, given the exponentially increasing population of the world, this theory would leave most of us without souls. What we are, both organically and spiritually, is determined by a mix of or antecedent's genetics and our own experiences, from conception to death.

This singular experience may or may not be replicated in a different form /existence through resurrection, but if our souls are independent of our earthly selves, then our experiences on earth are, also, and thus irrelevant in any judgement or passage of our souls through time. ( Because the persons we are, are made by our genetics and our lives/choices on earth, there must remain some connection between one soul and one physical body, or else how we choose to live on earth can not be held accountable to the soul through each resurrection) In short, one soul- one body at any one time, although the experience may be replicated over time.

At heart, I suspect even the child who spoke of choosing his parents said this tongue in cheek, and with some awareness of the cosmic jest behind the statement. (We usually are a product of our parents. Thus, in an inverse way, we do indeed choose the parents we have.) He felt lucky to have those parents. He felt that way because of how his parents had treated him. Thus he had, in a way, made a good choice of parents.

I happen to think we do exist before birth, in spirit, therefore in my own mind I believe we can choose the blueprint for our next life and that includes parents, where we will live etc etc.

Of course, I understand not everyone believes in reincarnation therefore, they will not believe we choose either. I also believe we go on after death, for me to think that we are born, then we die and are no longer, is spiritual death and to me, that would be the most horrific thing of all.

Funny how when we are very young we seem to know we are spiritual beings first and formost, however as we get older we forget who we really are.

I think we choose much more than parents. We set up the potentials for many things in our life planning. Naturally we choose as we journey through our experiences. Sometines these choices are conscious and sometimes they are not. I use the word conscious in the context of awareness about our life plans. No matter how evolved you may become, there are choices we must make that we are not consciousally knowledgeable about. My first marrage was like that. It was part of my life plan and a relationship that was intended. Yet if I knew it would not work out, I suspect it would spoil all the human experiences my soul wished to embrace.

In my view conscious choices can take place when we are aware of our particular life plan. These choices would be called co-creation with spirit.

John

Excellent point regarding your marriage! Thinking about it, if people knew half of what may be in store for them, they probably wouldn't venture outside their houses lol

I said something like that when I was little too! I just thought I was a weird kid.

I'm kinda glad someone else has said the same!

I don't know, I kinda thing that some people have privleges. I don't know why.

No, I don't think so. I think God chooses for us. Why would he let us choose when we are all nitwits compared to him?