I just got through watching the movie "The Cave" and it reminded me of a story I once heard of a bottomless pit found in (I THINK it was) Arkansas. The story goes that you can throw a rock into it and never heard it hit the bottom. It was said that someone was lowered into it and when they were pulled back out they were insane and babbling about creatures no one had ever seen before. Does this story ring a bell to anyone out there? When I was growing up on the Blackfeet Indian Reservation in Browning, Montana my aunt and uncle from Heart Butte, Montana (I won't mention their names to protect their privacy) told me a story in which they encountered just such a borttomless pit at Four Horn Lake (this is located in North Central Montana on the Southeast corner of the Blackfeet Reservation), and it was even said that creatures were seen coming from this hole (man sized creatures). If anyone has ever heard of such things or places, please post.

Personally, I don't believe in bottomless pits. If it were truly "bottomless" you would burn up from the heat of the core of the earth after falling so far down

Sounds pretty interesting I would also like to know more. The Cave was a pretty messed up movie too!

Oh that's freaky. I like "buttomless pits." Don't know why. But awsome story, Bigpikuni.

this is already posted in Mysteries Of Mind, Space & Time... and I don't think a pit can be 'bottomless', just very deep... IMO

Merged. Bigpikuni please don't post identical topics in mutliple board sections. Thanks.

screw the cave it's all about the desent!

: little smeagoly things.

It seems impossible for a pit to be bottomless. Interesting story though. I imagine there could be different creatures we've never seen before after a certain depth. Look at the life in the ocean that is odd and thought impossible to exsist at such depths.

it sounds interesting but there is no such thing as a "bottomless pit" , sooner or later you would end up on the opposite side of Earth lol. The unknown creatures sound scary

Was prolly a Shoggoth at the bottom

No really. They exist. Oh wait, no they don't; they just told me to tell you that.

The Descent is a million times better than the Cave. Anyway, no, a pit can't be bottomless. It'll end up on the other side of the earth.

ive seen the cave but not the descent, looked to creepy to me

Obviously, I didn't mean that they are REALLY bottomless! They're just very DEEP!

hmmm... so if i fall into bottomless pit, i will pop up in another side of earth, and fall down again coz gravity and i stuck inside earth flying around ?

Welcome to UM bigpikuni. Yeah heard about the one where they lowered a guy down who then came up insane. Dont remember where I heard it though. Probably here somewhere. lol. I'm sure someone here will know.

There is a story I have seen on tv it was a movie. It has three plays in it and was narrated by Rod Serling. The one play was entitled something like Encounter with the Unknown. The story was supposed to have taken place in Missouri somewhere in the early 1900's. In the story there is a boy and he has a dog and the dog gets lost and after this they hear these awful sounds coming from a hole in the ground. This goes on night and day. The father of the boy gets some people together and they put a rope down with him attached. The guy screamed and they pulled him up. He went running off. Not sure but think this was supposed to be true story. It was a creepy story.

A rathar large hole isn't a cryptid.

Is it just me or arent there any good topics now?

I agree with ryo

I wish people would see a new cryptid then we could have something to talk about.

Times like this I wish I had a life.



Anyhow what did these man-beasts look like?

I believe the beast in the Arkansas cave legend was described as a reptile, and there was some conjecture that it could be an alligator, as they do range into that state. There are many legends of reptilian creatures dwelling in caves going back the the serpent-dragon Gods that guarded in the underworld from ancient Sumeria. These ideas recur even to this day, with writers like David Ickes who claims intelligent "Reptilians" dwell in caves and tunnels under the earth and humans are being manipulated by them. President Bush and the Queen of England are supposedly disguised Reptilians according to Ickes.

I watched that movie to "The Cave". It wasn't too bad. Just made me wonder what exactly do we have living underneath our feet. The idea of a bottomless pit sounds intriguing to me, but i doubt one exists.

A pit could only be bottomless providing that it went right straight through to the other side of the Earth.

i figured i'd throw this information out to all of the skeptics that don't believe in bottomless pits....

Alienated... you were almost right on... but everyone thing about this...

if you are in the center of the earth... no matter which direction you go... you're going up... if you don't get it... think about it for a minute...

thus... the center of the earth would be a bottomless pit... because no matter where your standing... every thing below you is up...

Hmm. This could explain why the Queen refers to herself as we and why the President seems to have never mastered the English language.

.....If THOSE two are the best efforts of "manipulation" that these so-called reptiles have to offer, no wonder they live underground......whose they're leader, Andy Rooney or Mike Tyson?

I'm betting on Andy Rooney. He broadcasts instructions through his eyebrows.

Agreed....not much of a disguise, though.

Is there anything that old man doesn't refuse to understand?

We have "bottomless" pits here where I live. In Fundy National Park there is a place called Devil's Half Acre. If you don't walk on the boardwalk you could be gone ia flash and not return, people have been lost there before. In the same park they have a lake/pond just after you enter from Alma and it is said to be bottomless as well. The centre of the pond is pitch black and nothing is ever on it, not even insects, and the drop is straight down so if you slip and fall your screwed. They tried to see how deep it was but their equipment wasn't built to handle the depths at the time.

Both of the above "bottomless" pit areas are actually holes in the ground that bend and go into the ocean so they are very very deep and very very dark. Devil's Half Acre is littered with man-sized holes. The lake/pond is salt water so that's why nothing is on it.

As a kid growing up though these places REALLY scared me... now I know better.

How could you slip and fall in the middle of a pond?

Sorry, the edge of the pond is a straight drop. No warning if your not looking..... the pond is about 150 feet wide by the way and perfectly round.

Nice! Though couldn't you swim?

i used 2 think the same thing wen i was young

Can you supply some pics? that sounds interesting

I slip sometimes when I am walking on water, I am still getting used to it.

I find that golf or soccer shoes work well. I mean, you get the whole nostalgic feel if you wear wooden sandals, but really, your feet just get wet, you slip a lot, and they're not very comfortable. A good pair of cleats will wick away moisture and give you arch support, even as you perform your daily miracle duties!

Maybe it lowered that person to hell itself and thats where the 'creatures' were??? Maybe.

Sorry I had to many beers tonight to make an inteligent response, But I can LAUGH. Edit for: Not sure I can spell or make since though. lol

Sounds like an interesting story. I hope an article is found about it. I am curious to know further details.

There's a couple of cases mentioned on Coast to Coast. One is the so called Mel's Hole. Don't know too much about it since it was aired before I started to listen on C2C. Art Bell says they have tried to locate Mel but that he seems to have disappeared. If into his hole or elsewhere noone seems to know.
The other case is of russian oildrillers who drilled a very deep hole and lowered a microphone into it and recorded a cacaphony of voices screaming in pain, believeing they have drilled down to hell itself. Although this case has seemingly been debunked they still play the tape from time to time. It sounds a bit creepy but I believe it could also be faked. The story of Mel's Hole seem more credible to me although I have to admit I have no clue. If you want to know more about it you can probably google it up.

Some of you guys should track down a short story called "The Terror From The Depths" by Fritz Lieber. It's quite interesting.

Actually, take a look at my nick name.... haha, I grew up around Manashtash Ridge where Mel's Hole is suppose to be. Sorry, it doesn't exist, I have no doubt that Mel lived in the area, I suspect I even know who he is and where his property was, but there's no hole there and never was. Mel claims all the locals know about the Hole... but the only "hole" locals know about is an abandoned mine shaft called "Chinaman's" hole which is close by. Yes, Chinaman's Hole is deep (close to 600ft) but it's no bottomless pit and it's quite manmade.

It's worth mentioning that I don't think his real name is Mel either.

The one about the Russian oil drillers was proven to be a fake I believe.

If we assume that mother Earth is addle the existance of bottomless pits is not so unlikely...

Well, I grew up in Arkansas and I've never heard of a bottomless pit there. However, it is in the bible belt so anything that doesn't support the bible isn't discussed. I do know that there are ALOT of cavern systems all over Arkansas and alot of quarries too. Though with so many legends and myths about reptillian-like creatures living deep under ground that go back thousands of years, you can't completely rule out the possibility that they exist. Especially since we've never been that deep to find out. In Northern Arkansas there was a large series of mines and qruarries and have now been flooded with Bull Shoals lake when they dammed White River. Maybe they dug too deep and found something? Maybe they were covering it up with the lake? Or maybe they thought "hey, lets put a dam here and create a tourist industry." Who knows?