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thunkerdrone
video: Rosie O'Donnel on ABC's 'The View'

30 million viewers told of WT7 demolition
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"Would you say that you trust the Bush administration as much today as you did when they first took office?
Nearly everyone in this administration is under indictment or suspicion, nearly every person, from Karl Rove to Rumsfeld to Gonzales........
What do you have to do to get impeached in this country?"

30 million listeners told of WT7 demolition

"In America we are fed propaganda. Democracy in this country is threatened in a way that it has not been in 200 years, and if America doesn't
stand up we are in big trouble."
"I do believe that 9/11 is the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel. I do believe that it defies physics for World Trade Center 7, tower 7, which
collapsed in on itself, it is impossible for a building to fall the way it fell, without explosives being involved. World Trade Center 7. World Trade Center 1 and 2 got hit by planes, WTC7 , miraculously, the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible. To say that we don't know that it was an implosion and a demolition is beyond ignorant. Get a physics expert here. We are going to ask somebody from physics to come and explain.

video:
http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/290307_viewtube.html
Ashigaru
QUOTE(thunkerdrone @ Mar 31 2007, 05:26 AM) [snapback]1607258[/snapback]
"I do believe that 9/11 is the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel.
Theres no proof of molten steel and the CTs are the only ones claiming there was.

Who is that hot blond chick?
thunkerdrone
QUOTE(Ashigaru @ Mar 31 2007, 04:53 AM) [snapback]1607275[/snapback]
Theres no proof of molten steel and the CTs are the only ones claiming there was.



Wrong,
there were pools of molten steel found beneath WT7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVSxeJH_RCY



there is undeniable proof of molten steel pouring out of the South tower:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=molt...l+WTC&hl=en
Ashigaru
No, there is undeniable proof of a molten metal being there. The pools were never tested so you can't say with 100% certainty that is was steel.

There was also aluminum from the planes in the buildings.
thunkerdrone
QUOTE(Ashigaru @ Mar 31 2007, 05:18 AM) [snapback]1607284[/snapback]
No, there is undeniable proof of a molten metal being there. The pools were never tested so you can't say with 100% certainty that is was steel.

There was also aluminum from the planes in the buildings.


debris from the buildings, including steel, has been recovered and tested , with evidence of melting and laboratory tests revealed traces of
thermite. There are pictures of the steel beams cut at angles with thermate:

linked-image
this is exactly how thermate is used in building demolition , with charges placed at a set angle to cut uniformly through support beams and produce a collapse,
the same way a lumber tree is cut at an angle to cause it to topple.


http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml
Ashigaru
Thermite is just iron oxide and aluminun, both of which were already in the building.

If thermate was used where are the traces of barium nitrate and sulfur.

Do you have any photos before cleanup?

Also if you cut trees like that the chainsaw would get stuck.
thunkerdrone
QUOTE(Ashigaru @ Mar 31 2007, 08:13 AM) [snapback]1607410[/snapback]
Thermite is just iron oxide and aluminun, both of which were already in the building.

If thermate was used where are the traces of barium nitrate and sulfur.


the tests revealed thermate:

QUOTE
Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples

Jacob Hamblin | June 20 2006

Based on chemical analysis of WTC structural steel residue, a Brigham Young University physics professor has identified the material as Thermate. Thermate is the controlled demolition explosive thermite plus sulfur. Sulfur cases the thermite to burn hotter, cutting steel quickly and leaving trails of yellow colored residue.

Prof. Steven Jones, who conducted his PhD research at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center and post-doctoral research at Cornell University and the Los Alamos Meson Physics Facility, has analyised materials from WTC and has detected the existence of thermate, used for "cutting" the steel support columns, as evident in the photo below.


Dr. Jones is a co-founder of Scholars for 911 Truth.

Dr. Jones in earlier work pointed to thermate as the likely explosive that brought down the WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 skyscrapers. But only recently was physical material analysed in the lab and the presense of thermate announced. The samples were provided Dr. Jones team from redundant sources.

complete article:

http://www.altnews.info/911/thermite.htm




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Also if you cut trees like that the chainsaw would get stuck.


these are not trees, these are massive steel beams. Fire does not melt steel . Thermite does. This is the way it is done in building demolition, because there is no saw to get stuck.
There is only angularly placed thermit.
Rastaman
Ashigaru reminds me of the blonde lady in the video. Typical ignorant American which the rest of the world thinks all americans are.

Once the giant war starts the the American civilians will be fighting two wars, against those invading them and against their own government because by then no one can argue the corruption and conspiracy of this government.
Ashigaru
QUOTE(thunkerdrone @ Mar 31 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]1607459[/snapback]
the tests revealed thermate:
I find it very hard to believe some college professor would be able to get a sample of the steel when even the people working on cleanup didn't get to test it. Sulfur and no barium nitrate? Its not thermate then. There is a lot more barium nitrate than sulfur in thermate.
RAMS
QUOTE(thunkerdrone @ Mar 31 2007, 04:08 AM) [snapback]1607280[/snapback]
Wrong,
there were pools of molten steel found beneath WT7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVSxeJH_RCY
there is undeniable proof of molten steel pouring out of the South tower:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=molt...l+WTC&hl=en


These hysterical funny statements by the conspiracy ilk are great entertainment. Uh, how about the 164 tons of aircraft inside the building proper, 77% of such is aluminum, melting and burning, running out the opening same left when it hit the building. Can that be factored in as well.........

Jeeeezzzzzzzzzz.

I know beforehand there will be no coherent response. Never is.

RAMS
RAMS
QUOTE(thunkerdrone @ Mar 31 2007, 06:33 AM) [snapback]1607374[/snapback]
debris from the buildings, including steel, has been recovered and tested , with evidence of melting and laboratory tests revealed traces of
thermite. There are pictures of the steel beams cut at angles with thermate:

linked-image
this is exactly how thermate is used in building demolition , with charges placed at a set angle to cut uniformly through support beams and produce a collapse,
the same way a lumber tree is cut at an angle to cause it to topple.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml



Insane statements. Those photos of demo-cleanup were taken 3 weeks after 911 day, on 10-2-2001 by elements of FDNY. Those are torch cut beams, not cut with explosives since there were no explosves found, of any kind. These facts were confirmed over and over 5 years ago.

Questions:
Call-Contact FDNY:

FDNY Fire Zone
34 West 51st Street
New York, NY 10020
store@fdnyfirezone.org

FDNY Foundation
9 MetroTech Center, Room 5E-10
Brooklyn, NY 11201
P (718) 999-0779
F (718) 999-7124

Or, you can call Kimberly at FDNY at:

Kimberly Perez (718) 999-7012, E-mail: perezk@fdny.nyc.gov

Why the pathological lying by the 911 conspiracy cult?

RAMS
MID
QUOTE(RAMS @ Mar 31 2007, 01:53 PM) [snapback]1607626[/snapback]
Insane statements. Those photos of demo-cleanup were taken 3 weeks after 911 day, on 10-2-2001 by elements of FDNY. Those are torch cut beams, not cut with explosives since there were no explosves found, of any kind. These facts were confirmed over and over 5 years ago.

Why the pathological lying by the 911 conspiracy cult?

RAMS



I do not think you shall receive an adequate answer to this question RAMS...

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These hysterical funny statements by the conspiracy ilk are great entertainment. Uh, how about the 164 tons of aircraft inside the building proper, 77% of such is aluminum, melting and burning, running out the opening same left when it hit the building. Can that be factored in as well.........

Jeeeezzzzzzzzzz.

I know beforehand there will be no coherent response. Never is.


Ah I see, you realize this already!

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RAMS
QUOTE(MID @ Mar 31 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]1607632[/snapback]
I do not think you shall receive an adequate answer to this question RAMS...
Ah I see, you realize this already!

thumbsup.gif


Indeed.

RAMS
Colbert Nation
QUOTE(Ashigaru @ Mar 31 2007, 05:53 AM) [snapback]1607275[/snapback]
Who is that hot blond chick?


I'm not sure...but i'm slightly raw
Moondoggy
Her and Charly Sheens specualtions are ridiculous. It does not take a physics major but an Engineer to figure out what happened. They came down like a deck of cards because of the structural support being weakened by the immense heat that Jet fuel can produce and the sheer weight of the building. This process is seen in martial arts where a man breaks a pile of tiles. The inertia is compounded after the first break and is the energy that breaks the other underlying tiles.
MID
QUOTE(Moondoggy @ Apr 1 2007, 01:06 PM) [snapback]1608758[/snapback]
Her and Charly Sheens specualtions are ridiculous. It does not take a physics major but an Engineer to figure out what happened. They came down like a deck of cards because of the structural support being weakened by the immense heat that Jet fuel can produce and the sheer weight of the building. This process is seen in martial arts where a man breaks a pile of tiles. The inertia is compounded after the first break and is the energy that breaks the other underlying tiles.



That's not a bad analogy, Moondoggie.
It is also correct as pertains to the mechanics of the WTC collapses.

It isn't really that difficult an idea to grab hold of. That O'Donnel and Sheen are actually listened to when they make imbecilic statements about some conspiracy is the truly amazing thing about all of this.
thunkerdrone
QUOTE(Ashigaru @ Mar 31 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]1607545[/snapback]
I find it very hard to believe some college professor would be able to get a sample of the steel when even the people working on cleanup didn't get to test it. Sulfur and no barium nitrate? Its not thermate then. There is a lot more barium nitrate than sulfur in thermate.


experts have tested the samples and found evidence of thermate
TK0001
QUOTE(thunkerdrone @ Apr 2 2007, 08:03 AM) [snapback]1609689[/snapback]
experts have tested the samples and found evidence of thermate


No, they have found evidence of SULFUR. Sulfur does not = thermate. Sulfur is a small ingredient in thermIte. Sulfur also makes up a large percentage of the third most prevalent material in the world trade center - drywall. Of course sulfur was present.

What wasn't present was barium nitrate, which is a much more prevalent ingredient in thermite than sulfur. If the sulfur found at the scene by professor Jones was from thermate, then there should've been a much greater amount of barium nitrate in that viscinity as well. What does professor Jones say about the presence of barium nitrate?

Also, if your "expert" is Steven Jones, you're in a bit of trouble. He is (well, before his college suspended him anyway) a physics professor. Not exactly an expert in materials analysis. He's also been booted from the Scholars and I'm not really sure if he actually supports the thermate argument anymore. Might want to update your research.
TK0001
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I do believe that 9/11 is the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel.


Also, I'd like to add that this little gem is absolutely precious. Rosie thinks fire can't melt steel. That's rich.
thunkerdrone
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Wrong,
there were pools of molten steel found beneath WT7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVSxeJH_RCY




QUOTE(RAMS @ Mar 31 2007, 11:28 AM) [snapback]1607593[/snapback]
These hysterical funny statements by the conspiracy ilk are great entertainment. Uh, how about the 164 tons of aircraft inside the building proper, 77% of such is aluminum, melting and burning, running out the opening same left when it hit the building. Can that be factored in as well.........

Jeeeezzzzzzzzzz.

I know beforehand there will be no coherent response. Never is.

RAMS


yes, of course, there were 100 tons of aircraft aluminum in WTC 7
Brilliant as ever RAMS
RAMS
QUOTE(thunkerdrone @ Apr 2 2007, 08:31 AM) [snapback]1609907[/snapback]
yes, of course, there were 100 tons of aircraft aluminum in WTC 7
Brilliant as ever RAMS



Oh no, a foundry in the bottom of WTC-7 too. Heavens. Dats a lot of metal......

RAMS
Ashigaru
The only sources I can find of steel samples actually being tested are from conspiracy sites, hardly credible sources. Samples of steel that came from the area of impact had been taken to see how the fire affected them but a chemical analysis was never done.
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