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Beckys_Mom
Stellar......................this thread needs you LOL w00t.gif
SirRedeye
"Atheists are divided on path to nonbelief"- that phrase,and this story doesnt make sense

much like war-but thats where we need a religion (or excuse) to divide something up and make both sides on the subject following the "right path".....


"to be, or not to be, is not the question- because i am-and forever i shall be- he hehehehe alien.gif cat.gif
__Kratos__
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Organized religion is often at odds with proper spirituality.


Can't say that's a bad thing overall. I'd rather have just spiritual people then religious people who want to commit evil in everyday life for their god.

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So you dont believe people are smart enough to take responsibility for their own actions?


If I hire an assassin, give the assassin 10k for a sniper shot across the street and he kills the target that I choose... Am I then just completely innocent even though I offered a reward for the act?

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Why would "your" fire better than "there" fire?


In this case... Because I said so.

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Hinduism changes with the flow of things:

Hinduism is a living organism liable to growth and decay subject to the laws of Nature. One and indivisible at the root, it has grown into a vast tree with innumerable branches. The changes in the season affect it. It has its autumn and its summer, its winter and its spring. It is, and is not, based on scriptures. It does not derive its authority from one book. Non violence has found the highest expression and application in Hinduism.

----Mahatma Gandhi


Oh? I suppose the higher caste protests last year were just fiction. I suppose even right now the lower castes of that countries belief system being treated like crap and sub-humans is a thing of progress? hmm.gif

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You saying Communism doesnt fit into these categories?


No matter how much you want to twist it... It isn't a religion.

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But any philosophy can re-enforce belief whether it involves an afterlife and God or not.


Yeah, it can. If an idea is used to commit an act of evil, then it's no better then the actor.
ND-DAVE
The world revoles around respect. It makes you and breaks you. That statement doesnt only include the respect of others but selfresepect too. People only disrespect someone for two reasons. Envy and Ignorance. Both which spurn Hate. Which in my opinion is the true evil of the world.
GoddessWhispers
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The world revoles around respect. It makes you and breaks you. That statement doesnt only include the respect of others but selfresepect too. People only disrespect someone for two reasons. Envy and Ignorance. Both which spurn Hate. Which in my opinion is the true evil of the world.

Forgive me, maybe it's the hour, but did you mean to use "Spurn" in that statement!? I'm trying to understand what you're saying and that part has me clocked. "Both which spurn hate".

Thank you for reading my inquiry. original.gif
AtlantisRises
QUOTE(GoddessWhispers @ Apr 3 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]1610843[/snapback]
Forgive me, maybe it's the hour, but did you mean to use "Spurn" in that statement!? I'm trying to understand what you're saying and that part has me clocked. "Both which spurn hate".

Thank you for reading my inquiry. original.gif



Perhaps Spawn was the right word?
brave_new_world
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Can't say that's a bad thing overall. I'd rather have just spiritual people then religious people who want to commit evil in everyday life for their god.


Or would you just prefer people who didnt commit evil regardless the cause?

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If I hire an assassin, give the assassin 10k for a sniper shot across the street and he kills the target that I choose... Am I then just completely innocent even though I offered a reward for the act?
In this case... Because I said so.


The assassin wasnt forced to shoot anyone. You offered him a reward but he did the dirty work. He had it within his power not to accept your offer. How can he blame you?

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Oh? I suppose the higher caste protests last year were just fiction. I suppose even right now the lower castes of that countries belief system being treated like crap and sub-humans is a thing of progress? hmm.gif


Like all societies there are still troubles but Gandhi did a great job reforming what he could about the caste system. No society whether athiest or more religiously oriented is perfect.

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No matter how much you want to twist it... It isn't a religion.


I am not twisting anything I am simply going by what the Barns & Noble (Cambridge) Encyclopedia and The Concise Oxford Dictionary say. thumbsup.gif .Communism fits within their definition to what a religion is. Also I think you and me just have different definitions.

Barns & Noble (Cambridge) Encyclopedia (1990):
"...no single definition will suffice to encompass the varied sets of traditions, practices, and ideas which constitute different religions."

The Concise Oxford Dictionary :
"a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith."


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Yeah, it can. If an idea is used to commit an act of evil, then it's no better then the actor.


So how can an idea be evil unless there are people to agree or think it evil??? Explain that?


Big edit. Had to get rid of one of the dictionary definitions here. Cause it just didnt sit well with my argument. blush.gif made a fool of myself again. Oh well it happens everyday!
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