Hi there,

I'm new here and something that has always puzzled me is this. A soul when it leaves the body, in certain circumstances, stays on the earth plane and becomes a "ghost". Why do the majority of ghost photos/sightings/stories involve ghosts that are clothed, do souls require clothes? We come into this world naked, why would we come back in our clothes, clothes are physical and don't have souls.

I'd be interested in your answers please.

Sarah

hey Sarah
because often your mind will ADD details ......B

Yes, I think in some cases this is true, but when ghosts are caught on photographs, I haven't seen any naked ones!! Also, your mind doesn't add these details to photographs, we would all see the same thing.

Hello Regency,

It also could be: 1 that is the way they remember themselves.
2 If the haunting is not intelligent (say as a bad event happened and a scene replays over and over like a recording) it's what they were wearing.

Warm regards,
Mabon.

I agree with mabon. For spirits, an outfit is a huge part of identity, it makes a statement about who a person is. The farmer, solider, sailor, businessman etc...I would think it's purely a communication tool, but their energy doesn't always appear figure/dressed form.

Ghosts are like a snap shot of the past replaying so they would be dressed from that moment of time.

I have heard of naked ghosts too though. I absolutely feel that it's how they perceived themselves at the time of death. When you have someone that jumped out of the window and killed herself, their ghost isn't all broken and smashed either. In some instances, a ghost is reported to have been seen with the injuries that had killed them, that must be their last mental image of themselves when they died, although all of this is speculation.

That's a good point actually, if you're blown up (sorry, not a nice I know) - or even if you're cremated.... your physical body is gone, which gets us back to a soul departing the body at the point of death, not at the point of cremation.

I can see the "recording" theory where clothing's concerned.

Take a ghost story where the ghost is riding a motorcycle or a coach and horses. If these ghosts were somehow a kind of recording, I can understand that - but these ghosts couldn't interact with people if they're recordings, in which case - why would there be a motorcycle or coach, it's a physical thing - a motorcycle wouldn't have a soul.

I've got brain ache now, I've completely confused myself - doesn't take much either!!!!

Sarah

an anatomically correct ghost?..........B

From what i've read it's siding more to the fact that ghosts may very well be recordings.. From my experience it's rare to see a ghost "dying" like replaying its death but more the fact that they're just there.

Another thing that you have to remember, well from my point of view.. A soul is in this "shell" known as the human body for many many years and then suddenly you've left this shell and you don't know what to do or how you SHOULD look because it's like having an arm amputated.. You know it's not there but you can still feel it. Something along those lines... And you also have to remember that you're saying "ghosts should appear naked" but who said the soul is naked? Yes you were braught into this world naked but that's not the soul it's the shell.. The mind effects the soul and vise versa therefor when you're just a soul you're gonig to want to appear as you did when you were in your "shell." It's just the same as walking around naked but without physical essence, you wouldn't do it lol.

That I agree with...Spirit energy doesn't have to look like anything, seen in it various forms....

Manifestation of the former physical self via thought/memory is one way of communication (to communicate who they are/were IMO) well as far as I gather mediumistically talking.

A ghost does not exist as a physical entity; the reason it is perceived at all is that because one spirit with a physical body is interacting with a spirit without a physical body. When you see a ghost, it's kind of like dreaming. When you dream, most of the people you dream about are wearing clothes; occasionally, however, you may have a dream about somebody not wearing clothes.

Roll on the super models!! Nah i aint that pervy lol.

I have to disagree though.. The spirit itself is the thing that you're seeing but what you're saying is that it's seen like a dream.. Therefor you're seeing the spirit and dressing it with your mind.. "stop undressing me with your eyes" kinda reverse psychology really lol.

No, I wouldn't say that you dress it with your mind. Let's say George Washington appeared to you. You would probably see somebody dressed in Eigteenth Century garb. This is likely what you would be expecting, but only if this is what the ghost wanted you to see. I'm pretty sure that certain people have haunted my dreams, but in my dreams they looked nothing like what I expected them to look like.

Expectations and confontrations are 2 different things.. Nothing is ever what you expected it's either more or less lol

True, but sometimes expectation can influence your perception.

Yes but who can honestly say that they were expecting that ghost.. First time they saw it..

You have to take into account the fact that:

A. This ghost has suddenly appeared
B. Your mind has some how clothed it in appropriate time era clothing within that split second of it appearing..

It's like seeing a spirit and saying ur brain is thinking "ok.. spirit.. shud be dressed in 19th century clothing.." it doesn't have time to do that lol.

It just doesn't happen lol

You see the ghost as the ghost wants you to see it; however, your own mind may add details, the same as if you saw a cowboy, and imagined that he was wearing boots, even though he might have been wearing shoes.

Well my theory is they are either very cold or they don't like to be nakey, that'd be so embarrassing walking around naked.

That is what I was going to say. I only saw one and he was dressed as I knew him in life!

If we take eye witness ghosts out of the equation and think solely about spirit photography. We would all the the ghost in the white dress, wearing a white dress - it wouldn't be a perception it would be a fact that that spirit on the photo was clothed, right? So if that ghost was a "recording" it would account for the fact that it is an image of how that person was when alive and living in that space.

They wear clothes because the OWNPTPPC - Other World Nudity Protocol To Protect Physical Children is well enforced by the OWNPTPPC inspectors

It makes one wonder where they shop for clothes?

Simple answer, in your realm you are clothed. If , in your realm, you went around necked the ghost would be necked too. There would probably be a lot more ghosts around good-looking shapely women.

As humans in this, our three dimensional "reality", clothing is part of our everyday exisitence. We sleep in clothes, we work in clothes, we even swim clothed (most of us thank god clothing is as much a part of our "reality" as breathing. Getting dressed in the morning is almost second nature. We are even buried in clothes. Clothing is part of who we are. Now, ghosts...those that live out the last moments of their lives, the emotional impact of those last moments sometimes leaves an impression, a recording that is replayed over and over again. So like a video on endless loop play, that's what we see clothes and all. Entities, those that have passed but are aware, active, and can interact with the living, are beings of pure energy. We at times may see them as orbs, or balls of light, but they may see themselves as they were before they died, again, clothes and all. They expect to be clothed and so they are. Without realizing it, second nature if you will, these entities may create their clothing from their own energy or the energy that surrounds them.

Or...

That's where all the stuff we find missing when we dry our clothes goes. Can't tell you how many socks I have just one of. Anyone seen ghosts wearing mismatched socks?
Ah well...just a thought

I think they're just shy.

Ghost/spirits, if seen, are usually wearing what they either died in, or what they were buried in.

I believe this best explains it, in my opinion.

I see what you mean. I think a good example would be for me seeing the young blond teen walking down a fort Dix road late at night, and not realizing he was a ghost until reading about it on the net years later. I didn't see him fade away, my friend did. To me, he seemed real and solid. It's what I first noticed.

I have always wondered how things, like ghosts and their wardrobe seems solid, even to touch, when it is not really there. Can they manipulate energy that much?



Trust me, that ghost teen should have been not wearing that red hat that didn't go with his all blue jean outfit.



It would explain a lot though!

there is no such thing as ghosts the soul when it leaves the body goes to either heaven or hell they do not linger after phisical death and contact with the dead is another thing that doesnt happen all your doing is contacting a demon (spirit of deception) though it may be true it isnt the person. I know demons exist because ive talked to them ive had them cast out of me and ive seen them phisically the spiritual world is somethin im very familiar with if you have anyother questions id be glad to answer them

Elton John said, Mars aint' the kind of place to raise your kids, in fact it's cold as hell...

...so there you have it....hell is cold and therefore the ghosts are cold from hell...so they wear clothes...not to difficult to explain really...

My mother and her little sister saw a ghost back in the 1930's. It was a man on a dray, drawn by a single horse. The man was apparently asleep, and they were coming up a long and dusty country road,towards the girls' who were walking home from a country school to their farm. It was a hot dry summers evening.
At first the girls thought nothing of it, the image was so real , but as they approached each other, the girls realised that no sound accompanied the image, and that all were soaking wet. the man was slumped in the seat, and wearing a heavy duty waterproof-coat totally innappropriate for the hot day . The image disppeared as it went behind the girls, and they raced the rest of the way home.

It was only years later that my mother was considered old enough to hear the story of a local farmer who regularly had more than a few beers at the local watering hole, and whose horse brought him safely home along this road while he slept if off. One night a thunderstorm sprang up, and the horse bolted at the thunder and lightning. Before the farmer could recover they had plunged into a deep water- hole just off the track.

Nothing was ever found of them, despite some attempts at dredging the hole with grappling hooks. A few people claimed to have seen his ghost, but the girls had never heard the story. This tends to confirm the idea of an image remaining for many years, in this case of the man, horse and cart, a few moments before the horse bolted and ran into the pool, which still exists just down the road.

In a brief but vivid sighting I had, it took me many years to find out that one ghost I saw (which was wearing a white night cap and long full length night dress from the mid 1800's) had been seen by others, and that it was the ghost of a woman who had hung herself one night in this apparel. She had lost all her children,about 8 of them over two years, to a diptheria epidemic which had ravaged the district around the 1860's She never recovered from this, and hung herself one night in her bedroom, or on the adjoining verandah. The story is not consistent on this.

Again, this suggests a "recording" from the past, although for several years after this, her voice was heard on occasion, from within our house, saying things like "where are you" and "shut the door". She seemed to move to our house after her traditional haunt was lost to a big bushfire, and after a few years she faded away.

MrWalker - I hope it was a "recording" of the lady who lost her children and she went to be with them again, the thought of her taking her own life to get away from the pain she felt, to be trapped here indefinantly is pretty sad.

Yes, I feel the same way, When i tell my students this story I usually add that i hope she eventually found her children. The real circumstances are quite true and all of the children are buried in two old pioneer cemeteries. Some are near her home and others are at a mission cemetery near the coast. In the second year, she took her children to a farm nearer the coast, in the belief that sea air might help their condition.Sadly it did not, and she lost the remaining children that year.
The intensity of her experience possibly made her one of the most active ghosts i have heard of, and her house was renown for its hauntings. Grown men would not go near it at night and eventually it was abandoned, because its inhabitants could not stand the presence of the ghost. While she was nowhere near as active at our house, I was never worried or afraid of her, and once I was aware of her background, felt quite glad that she had found a place to stay for a while.