Hey Everyone,
When I was 8 years old, and still extremely naive and interested in the occult (I still am deeply interested in the occult), I bought my friend, let's call her Joanna a Oujiia board, and that night when everyone else who was at the party was asleep, we took it out (everyone else was scared, and rightly so) and we asked the board how many people were in the room. Now the party was 10 girls, including Jo and I, and the board said 15. Joanna and I looked at each other scared, and she said "I know one is my grandfather...Vicky...I'm scared...". I then told her not to worry, and that I would protect her from anything, her being my best treasure chest friend, and I being the tomboy and muscle in the friendship, she being the pretty one. We asked the board if I was ever going to find true love, and it said yes, and then when we thought it was over, it moved to say "s.o.r.r.y.f.o.r.i.t.g.i.r.l.s.". We didn't know what it meant, but ever since we "played" with it, I have been followed everywhere by 4 "shadow" beings- and when I say everywhere, I mean it. The only place I don't feel their presence in when I am with my boyfriend, Josh. He had a hag attack when he was about 9, so I think because he is aware as well, it helps to keep them away; I just get such a safe feeling when I'm with him, which is the only time I DO feel safe, and I'm postive it is because he experianced something around the same age as me. Can anyone help me to ease, or fully get rid of the presence of these spirits when I am not with my boyfriend? We have a long-distance relationship, so I hardly get to see him, and I need to get these spirits away, because I have been getting such a bad feeling in my stomach like something is going to happen. Can anyone please, PLEASE help me????
Love,
Vicky
Full Version: Help please, I have shadows that follow me
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Hi.
I am sorry to hear that you are "haunted"
Unforttunately it is not uncommen, when people are playing with oujiia bords (ore anny other kind of summoning different kinds of entities)
Just as there are dark forces in the world, there are also Good powers, and i beleive it is here you will find the help you need.
I will surggest that you call upon the "Good God/Creator off all Good/Good Angels/Jesus Christ" ore whatever words feels Good to you, and ask for protection. Do it often and prepare for a little trouble, for it will proberly end up in some fighting in the spiritual world.
BUT DONT GIVE UP, the Good will always gain the victory
I will pray for you
I am sorry to hear that you are "haunted"
Unforttunately it is not uncommen, when people are playing with oujiia bords (ore anny other kind of summoning different kinds of entities)
Just as there are dark forces in the world, there are also Good powers, and i beleive it is here you will find the help you need.
I will surggest that you call upon the "Good God/Creator off all Good/Good Angels/Jesus Christ" ore whatever words feels Good to you, and ask for protection. Do it often and prepare for a little trouble, for it will proberly end up in some fighting in the spiritual world.
BUT DONT GIVE UP, the Good will always gain the victory
I will pray for you
Hi Vicky,
I would ask them why they follow you and what they want. It is also good to remember you are never without your guardian angel.
I hope this suggestion will help.
John
I would ask them why they follow you and what they want. It is also good to remember you are never without your guardian angel.
I hope this suggestion will help.
John
QUOTE(i_believe12 @ Apr 1 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]1608750[/snapback]
..... We didn't know what it meant, but ever since we "played" with it, I have been followed everywhere by 4 "shadow" beings- and when I say everywhere, I mean it. The only place I don't feel their presence in when I am with my boyfriend, Josh. He had a hag attack when he was about 9, so I think because he is aware as well, it helps to keep them away.....
how long have they been following you ? and has josh(or you ) had any recent episodes of sleep paralysis?.......B 
they are wimps btw...(shadows anyways)
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The only place I don't feel their presence in when I am with my boyfriend, Josh. He had a hag attack when he was about 9, so I think because he is aware as well, it helps to keep them away; I just get such a safe feeling when I'm with him, which is the only time I DO feel safe, and I'm positive it is because he experienced something around the same age as me. Can anyone help me to ease, or fully get rid of the presence of these spirits when I am not with my boyfriend?
I think you've been deeply psychologically hurt by the ouija experience, I'm not sure what age you are now? But this sense of not feeling safe only subsides when you're with your boyfriend? Then we have got to get this sorted out!
I just can't help but recognise this as paranoid fear. The hag experience you mention (in my eyes anyway) does not belong in the paranormal, sleep paralysis is a sleep disorder, nothing more nothing less (IMO)
One episode of SP does not make somebody 'aware' or is the 'reason' why these shadows leave you alone when you're with him. It may be that he is aware and has a strong positive energy but it's not because of the hag dream.
Let me ask you this...What is there to fear exactly? What is it that you're so very scared of? Is it something you can't explain but just feel or?
I would take a good guess that part of the problem is some misinformation, I discovered over the years that there is so much bull out there, bit by bit as I developed I found out what is and to be for myself...
tackling the fear and shadows.
Fear is a powerful thing, it controls, manipulates and steals energy, but the source also relies on fear to feed. Negative energy/shadows are just that, bundles of negative energy that swim about like 2 brain cell jelly fish in the sea.
It may be that the energy or presence conjures or radiates a bad or uneasy feeling....... but the actual fear belongs to you, You always have the choice and power in how you react or interpret something, nothing else can do that for you.....
When it comes to the unknown it's very easy to misinterpret your own emotions/reactions, sometimes to the extent of confusing them for something paranormal...Fear also arouses various things in the body and mind, IE, Adrenalin = fight or flight responses, sharper senses etc...
The relationship with fear and negative shadows/energies is simple (not all are negative) but the more you feel and project fear, the more you are feeding that energy. It's like saying what you put out in thought and energy (vibe) is what you will attract... These shadows can't hurt you they are harmless, these energies are limited in how they can interact with us...the idea is to get your own feelings under control and then you can cut them off....
If you would like to talk about this further, send me a pm and we can meet in the site chatroom, I can do a remote cleansing and have a look at what's going on exactly
Since i dont know you ore much about your situation, and only know your experiences, thtough what you have told in your post, i obviosly cant tell if it is real entities, ore something psycological as suggested by anvil.
However it sounds real to me. No offence anvil
I have had experiences that in some way resemples yours, and there is no way, it was all in my mind.
I do know that experiences like that can originate from the mind, but i have absolutely no doubt, that it can be werry real indeed, and if it is, it wont help only to deal with it in the mind, eventhough it might help you relax.
However it sounds real to me. No offence anvil
I have had experiences that in some way resemples yours, and there is no way, it was all in my mind.I do know that experiences like that can originate from the mind, but i have absolutely no doubt, that it can be werry real indeed, and if it is, it wont help only to deal with it in the mind, eventhough it might help you relax.
Kroll, maybe i didn't make myself clear but I didn't take it as something purely psychological. What I ment was the psychological has a lot to do with it even if there are shadow entities involved...
Understanding the psychology of these energies/shadows has as much place as understanding the psychology of your own reactions etc
Understanding the psychology of these energies/shadows has as much place as understanding the psychology of your own reactions etc
QUOTE(i_believe12 @ Apr 1 2007, 11:00 AM) [snapback]1608750[/snapback]
Hey Everyone,
When I was 8 years old, and still extremely naive and interested in the occult (I still am deeply interested in the occult), I bought my friend, let's call her Joanna a Oujiia board, and that night when everyone else who was at the party was asleep, we took it out (everyone else was scared, and rightly so) and we asked the board how many people were in the room. Now the party was 10 girls, including Jo and I, and the board said 15. Joanna and I looked at each other scared, and she said "I know one is my grandfather...Vicky...I'm scared...". I then told her not to worry, and that I would protect her from anything, her being my best treasure chest friend, and I being the tomboy and muscle in the friendship, she being the pretty one. We asked the board if I was ever going to find true love, and it said yes, and then when we thought it was over, it moved to say "s.o.r.r.y.f.o.r.i.t.g.i.r.l.s.". We didn't know what it meant, but ever since we "played" with it, I have been followed everywhere by 4 "shadow" beings- and when I say everywhere, I mean it. The only place I don't feel their presence in when I am with my boyfriend, Josh. He had a hag attack when he was about 9, so I think because he is aware as well, it helps to keep them away; I just get such a safe feeling when I'm with him, which is the only time I DO feel safe, and I'm postive it is because he experianced something around the same age as me. Can anyone help me to ease, or fully get rid of the presence of these spirits when I am not with my boyfriend? We have a long-distance relationship, so I hardly get to see him, and I need to get these spirits away, because I have been getting such a bad feeling in my stomach like something is going to happen. Can anyone please, PLEASE help me????
Love,
Vicky
When I was 8 years old, and still extremely naive and interested in the occult (I still am deeply interested in the occult), I bought my friend, let's call her Joanna a Oujiia board, and that night when everyone else who was at the party was asleep, we took it out (everyone else was scared, and rightly so) and we asked the board how many people were in the room. Now the party was 10 girls, including Jo and I, and the board said 15. Joanna and I looked at each other scared, and she said "I know one is my grandfather...Vicky...I'm scared...". I then told her not to worry, and that I would protect her from anything, her being my best treasure chest friend, and I being the tomboy and muscle in the friendship, she being the pretty one. We asked the board if I was ever going to find true love, and it said yes, and then when we thought it was over, it moved to say "s.o.r.r.y.f.o.r.i.t.g.i.r.l.s.". We didn't know what it meant, but ever since we "played" with it, I have been followed everywhere by 4 "shadow" beings- and when I say everywhere, I mean it. The only place I don't feel their presence in when I am with my boyfriend, Josh. He had a hag attack when he was about 9, so I think because he is aware as well, it helps to keep them away; I just get such a safe feeling when I'm with him, which is the only time I DO feel safe, and I'm postive it is because he experianced something around the same age as me. Can anyone help me to ease, or fully get rid of the presence of these spirits when I am not with my boyfriend? We have a long-distance relationship, so I hardly get to see him, and I need to get these spirits away, because I have been getting such a bad feeling in my stomach like something is going to happen. Can anyone please, PLEASE help me????
Love,
Vicky
The best defense against intrusions into your mind by any force is . . . not to think about them and since you say you are still deeply interested in them, you are inviting possession. What is a hag attack? An old hag attacked him and did what? You are also binding yourself to your boyfriend by this and I don't know but seeing you're female and he is male, that might be a good thing because when you are around him, apparently you think more about him than the occult, but if you ever mix the two you might become pregnant a little sooner than you want or need! So my suggestion is to stop with the occult and find some constructive things to do with your life.
Also it is very bad to 'call' upon anything or anybody, especially a good spirit or Jesus Christ. Satan disguises himself as Christ or an angel of light.
No offence gregg, but religious scare mongering is not very useful in these situations. Not everyone believes in possession or satan...that is purely Opinion...
QUOTE(Anvil @ Apr 1 2007, 09:31 PM) [snapback]1609003[/snapback]
Kroll, maybe i didn't make myself clear but I didn't take it as something purely psychological. What I ment was the psychological has a lot to do with it even if there are shadow entities involved...
Understanding the psychology of these energies/shadows has as much place as understanding the psychology of your own reactions etc
Understanding the psychology of these energies/shadows has as much place as understanding the psychology of your own reactions etc
Sorry i did misunderstod you, i aperently agrees with you
QUOTE(greggK @ Apr 1 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]1609008[/snapback]
Also it is very bad to 'call' upon anything or anybody, especially a good spirit or Jesus Christ. Satan disguises himself as Christ or an angel of light.
How can itever be a bad thing to call upon the GOOD God??????
Dont you realy think that satan could EVER win, even if he will try to desquise himself?
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 1 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]1608813[/snapback]
Just as there are dark forces in the world, there are also Good powers, and i beleive it is here you will find the help you need.
QUOTE(John A Spera @ Apr 1 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]1608841[/snapback]
Hi Vicky, I would ask them why they follow you and what they want. It is also good to remember you are never without your guardian angel. I hope this suggestion will help. John
People need to stop encouraging attitudes like this, when there's the risk of underlying psychological or medical issues; much less actually giving instructions on how to solve the problem when really you don't have a clue. Even if shadow beings, demons, ghosts etc. do exist you have absolutely no idea what's really at play here.
Vicky, can you explain more about the shadow beings?
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Apr 1 2007, 10:07 PM) [snapback]1609041[/snapback]
People need to stop encouraging attitudes like this, when there's the risk of underlying psychological or medical issues; much less actually giving instructions on how to solve the problem when really you don't have a clue. Even if shadow beings, demons, ghosts etc. do exist you have absolutely no idea what's really at play here.
Vicky, can you explain more about the shadow beings?
Vicky, can you explain more about the shadow beings?
Obviosly you are pretty sure that it is either a psycological or medical issue! I am not convinsed of that, but i dont say, that it couldnt be the case.
However i dont think a prayer could ever harm, if it is some kind of evil precense it can only help.
As said, i have experienced something a little simular, and beleive me, medicin wouldnt have helped!
If i have spirutual problems i personally wouldnt go to a doctor for medicin, and that is proberly why Vicky has asked her questions on a site like this!
Once we get past how we wish to catagorize these entities, what we are dealing with is something that breaks down to the COUNTLESS testimonies of exactly the SAME thing!! How can anyone dispute this? ....anyone who KNOWS me also knows I WILL back up my stand.......if I feel like it .......and people that make it to the unexplained mysteries forums often have exhausted the usual psycholgical / medical explanations.........B
halfhandshufffle:log-hourglasss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtR_x-rutFU
.......and people that make it to the unexplained mysteries forums often have exhausted the usual psycholgical / medical explanations.........Bhalfhandshufffle:log-hourglasss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtR_x-rutFU
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 1 2007, 11:24 PM) [snapback]1609064[/snapback]
Obviosly you are pretty sure that it is either a psycological or medical issue! I am not convinsed of that, but i dont say, that it couldnt be the case.
However i dont think a prayer could ever harm, if it is some kind of evil precense it can only help.
As said, i have experienced something a little simular, and beleive me, medicin wouldnt have helped!
If i have spirutual problems i personally wouldnt go to a doctor for medicin, and that is proberly why Vicky has asked her questions on a site like this!
However i dont think a prayer could ever harm, if it is some kind of evil precense it can only help.
As said, i have experienced something a little simular, and beleive me, medicin wouldnt have helped!
If i have spirutual problems i personally wouldnt go to a doctor for medicin, and that is proberly why Vicky has asked her questions on a site like this!
[font="Arial"][/font][color="#FF00FF"][/color][size="3"][/size]Hi vicky(i hope im typing on the right place im very new.sorry if i am not....
i had to sign on as there are a few coincidences here, my name is joanna victoria, when i was young i used the ouija board many times,i had many shadows follow me i was interested and still am in all things extra natural,at thge age of 16 my mother had a priest excorcise my bedroom, i was terrified of that house so much so when my mother passed over in 2001 i sold the house in london and moved well away,my sons had bads expieriances happen in my old bedroom when they stayed at my mothers when she baby sat,i would and had many unusuall expieriances,i now hear spirit and have precognition and have learnt to use my gifts in my everyday life.Many people who are interested in the super/extranatural are also very creative.
I admit i have times when i feel completely spooked and run outa rooms and down staircases.
Have you taken a calm look at these shadows,are you absolutely sure you can not explain why they are there...my thoughts are if this is so it would be a good idea to contact your local spritualist church and ask for a little help,these people do not charge and are extremly understanding....sometimes ones creative imagination gets the better of one self,other time a little help is needed.many things cast shadows,a strong mind helps as does a outlook of calming.
When i had the extreme poltageist expos as a teen ,i said The Lords prayer in my head and at the time the scary stuff would stop.
Hope im a little help.warm happy lavender scented regards joanna x
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 1 2007, 11:24 PM) [snapback]1609064[/snapback]
Obviosly you are pretty sure that it is either a psycological or medical issue!
Whether I believe that or not is irrelevant, it's a possibility which has to be considered.
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However i dont think a prayer could ever harm, if it is some kind of evil precense it can only help.
Believe me; if it is psychological, anything that furthers the person's belief can be very harmful.
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Apr 1 2007, 11:09 PM) [snapback]1609115[/snapback]
Whether I believe that or not is irrelevant, it's a possibility which has to be considered.
Off course it is a possibillity, i havnt said it wasnt.
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Apr 1 2007, 11:09 PM) [snapback]1609115[/snapback]
Believe me; if it is psychological, anything that furthers the person's belief can be very harmful.
Well, i dont agree
Annyway we are all trying to help Vicky, and do it accordingly to the way we wiev the world, then it is up to her, to try out what works for her. A theological debate wont help her, so lets stop that.
Vicky - i sencerely hope you will find your way out of this, if you seek you will find, keep it up
Hi Vicky! I see on your profile you do Karate. Does your instructor teach you the spiritual side of martial arts? Those techniques of channeling Ki energy can be useful in your situation. Martial arts teaches the focusing of physical and spiritual energy. Ki, Chi etc..... I know it may sound a bit weird and corny but you can externalise that energy to drive away spiritual beings. I am not saying you should go wading into these shadows flailing your arms around....just visualise you are punching them but letting the energy keep going until it hits them, call up the feelings you have when you are striking someone/something. It is hard to describe. If you feel threatened bring your energy in and protect yourself almost like blocking an incoming strike. I know this all sounds like something from "Dragonball 'Z'" but really it works. You can hit spirits just not with your hands Also use the same principal with striking, aim through the target rather than at the target.
If you start disrupting thier energy patterns they may get pissed off and leave.
Regards, LS.
Also use the same principal with striking, aim through the target rather than at the target.If you start disrupting thier energy patterns they may get pissed off and leave.
Regards, LS.
QUOTE(i_believe12 @ Apr 1 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]1608750[/snapback]
Hey Everyone,
When I was 8 years old, and still extremely naive and interested in the occult (I still am deeply interested in the occult), I bought my friend, let's call her Joanna a Oujiia board, and that night when everyone else who was at the party was asleep, we took it out (everyone else was scared, and rightly so) and we asked the board how many people were in the room. Now the party was 10 girls, including Jo and I, and the board said 15. Joanna and I looked at each other scared, and she said "I know one is my grandfather...Vicky...I'm scared...". I then told her not to worry, and that I would protect her from anything, her being my best treasure chest friend, and I being the tomboy and muscle in the friendship, she being the pretty one. We asked the board if I was ever going to find true love, and it said yes, and then when we thought it was over, it moved to say "s.o.r.r.y.f.o.r.i.t.g.i.r.l.s.". We didn't know what it meant, but ever since we "played" with it, I have been followed everywhere by 4 "shadow" beings- and when I say everywhere, I mean it. The only place I don't feel their presence in when I am with my boyfriend, Josh. He had a hag attack when he was about 9, so I think because he is aware as well, it helps to keep them away; I just get such a safe feeling when I'm with him, which is the only time I DO feel safe, and I'm postive it is because he experianced something around the same age as me. Can anyone help me to ease, or fully get rid of the presence of these spirits when I am not with my boyfriend? We have a long-distance relationship, so I hardly get to see him, and I need to get these spirits away, because I have been getting such a bad feeling in my stomach like something is going to happen. Can anyone please, PLEASE help me????
Love,
Vicky
When I was 8 years old, and still extremely naive and interested in the occult (I still am deeply interested in the occult), I bought my friend, let's call her Joanna a Oujiia board, and that night when everyone else who was at the party was asleep, we took it out (everyone else was scared, and rightly so) and we asked the board how many people were in the room. Now the party was 10 girls, including Jo and I, and the board said 15. Joanna and I looked at each other scared, and she said "I know one is my grandfather...Vicky...I'm scared...". I then told her not to worry, and that I would protect her from anything, her being my best treasure chest friend, and I being the tomboy and muscle in the friendship, she being the pretty one. We asked the board if I was ever going to find true love, and it said yes, and then when we thought it was over, it moved to say "s.o.r.r.y.f.o.r.i.t.g.i.r.l.s.". We didn't know what it meant, but ever since we "played" with it, I have been followed everywhere by 4 "shadow" beings- and when I say everywhere, I mean it. The only place I don't feel their presence in when I am with my boyfriend, Josh. He had a hag attack when he was about 9, so I think because he is aware as well, it helps to keep them away; I just get such a safe feeling when I'm with him, which is the only time I DO feel safe, and I'm postive it is because he experianced something around the same age as me. Can anyone help me to ease, or fully get rid of the presence of these spirits when I am not with my boyfriend? We have a long-distance relationship, so I hardly get to see him, and I need to get these spirits away, because I have been getting such a bad feeling in my stomach like something is going to happen. Can anyone please, PLEASE help me????
Love,
Vicky
I cannot tell you how dangerous mingling with the occult is! you've opened doors for demonic attack by doing that wich explains why you've had shadows or anyother negative spiritual experiences theres a difference between demonic possesion and demonic opression one cannot be possesed when they have accepted jesus into their life he has his mark on you and your his but this doesnt mean your free and clear from demonic activity what this is called is demonic opression and here they have control over your Mind(your thoughts,Will(what you want to do), and your Emotions(your feelings depression for example is a spirit of depression and with some prayer from a person who knows how to deal with the demonic (it would be best if it were a pastor) it can be broken and then be completely free and clear of any signs of depression im living proof! and in case of a possesion a person is not saved and actually they have no control over what they do but they to can have freedom it just would take some serious prayer and lifestyle changes. in your case, your shadows and anything else is the result of your occult practices or beliefs whatever they may be I will tell you with everthing I am that they only way that you will find true freedom is through jesus christ you know the spritual world is real I would make sure you find the right side to be on cuz the spiritual world is about to be ever more active as time goes on i personally have talked to demons and had them physically in my room but when jesus has your back the demons freak out and get scared and the leave when you tell them to I hope you find peace and truth with your situation! God Bless
QUOTE(living sacrifice @ Apr 2 2007, 07:12 AM) [snapback]1609524[/snapback]
I cannot tell you how dangerous mingling with the occult is! you've opened doors for demonic attack by doing that wich explains why you've had shadows or anyother negative spiritual experiences theres a difference between demonic possesion and demonic opression one cannot be possesed when they have accepted jesus into their life he has his mark on you and your his but this doesnt mean your free and clear from demonic activity what this is called is demonic opression and here they have control over your Mind(your thoughts,Will(what you want to do), and your Emotions(your feelings depression for example is a spirit of depression and with some prayer from a person who knows how to deal with the demonic (it would be best if it were a pastor) it can be broken and then be completely free and clear of any signs of depression im living proof! and in case of a possesion a person is not saved and actually they have no control over what they do but they to can have freedom it just would take some serious prayer and lifestyle changes. in your case, your shadows and anything else is the result of your occult practices or beliefs whatever they may be I will tell you with everthing I am that they only way that you will find true freedom is through jesus christ you know the spritual world is real I would make sure you find the right side to be on cuz the spiritual world is about to be ever more active as time goes on i personally have talked to demons and had them physically in my room but when jesus has your back the demons freak out and get scared and the leave when you tell them to I hope you find peace and truth with your situation! God Bless
I didn't get a chance to try the Ouija board. But there was point in my life when I was searching for any sign from the sprit world. I was lonely and I wanted God to save me from my loneliness. I figured seeing a sprit would prove the existence of God. So I switched off the lights, lit a candle and meditated calling for sprits to show up. After 10 minutes of meditation I didn’t see any sprits.
Do you think I might have allowed evil sprits to mess with my life?
I have had bad life for ten years.
QUOTE(navigator @ Apr 2 2007, 07:33 AM) [snapback]1609546[/snapback]
I didn't get a chance to try the Ouija board. But there was point in my life when I was searching for any sign from the sprit world. I was lonely and I wanted God to save me from my loneliness. I figured seeing a sprit would prove the existence of God. So I switched off the lights, lit a candle and meditated calling for sprits to show up. After 10 minutes of meditation I didn’t see any sprits.
Do you think I might have allowed evil sprits to mess with my life?
I have had bad life for ten years.
Do you think I might have allowed evil sprits to mess with my life?
I have had bad life for ten years.
I dont think annyone can say whether it is spirits ore demons ore just life as it is, who is responsebel for you not having a good life, but messing/playing with the spirutual world, surely dont help in a possitive way, i know, for i have tryed it.
Life is, one way ore the other, hard on most people, and rejecting the spiritual and accepting Jesus, havent given me a life without problems, but i sertently have got the power to deal with life and the trouble whe all will experiense once in a while, and life has become easyer, and i have been blessed in manny ways. Eventhough the evil spirits still try to mess with me, they dont have the influense they once had, simply because they are weaker, than the protector i have.
Life is hard, it is the way of things. My whole life has been a fight to have things go right. I can't rely on luck, everything I have I have had to work for. Not many people have a problem free life. Rich people have problems, look at Michael Jackson, he had everything and lost it all so easily. Sometimes spirits play a role in screwing up our lives. It's usualy our own fault for letting them do so. God is watching us and probably cares what is happening but will do nothing. Remember we are all part of God and in some ways can wield a small portion of God's power. I have seen many Christians blaming God for thier problems...."Oh God why have you forsaken me!?" A cry I hear all too often. When I was young I asked God to test me, as much as I could bear....the test goes on and some days I am close to breaking. Be carefull what you wish for, oh so very carefull. Take responsibility for what is yours, the good and the bad.
QUOTE(Lord Storm @ Apr 2 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]1609620[/snapback]
Life is hard, it is the way of things. My whole life has been a fight to have things go right. I can't rely on luck, everything I have I have had to work for. Not many people have a problem free life. Rich people have problems, look at Michael Jackson, he had everything and lost it all so easily. Sometimes spirits play a role in screwing up our lives. It's usualy our own fault for letting them do so. God is watching us and probably cares what is happening but will do nothing. Remember we are all part of God and in some ways can wield a small portion of God's power. I have seen many Christians blaming God for thier problems...."Oh God why have you forsaken me!?" A cry I hear all too often. When I was young I asked God to test me, as much as I could bear....the test goes on and some days I am close to breaking. Be carefull what you wish for, oh so very carefull. Take responsibility for what is yours, the good and the bad.
I generally agree with you, but i must say; GOD CARES, AND HE DOES DO SOMETHING, when we comes to Him with our problems and conserns. Often the things He does, is some other things that people expect (He knows what is the best for us) and that is why people complains - they dont always get what they expect - but in the end, it always turns up for the best.
Try Him, have an open mind for what may come and put God to the test
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Apr 1 2007, 06:09 PM) [snapback]1609115[/snapback]
Whether I believe that or not is irrelevant, it's a possibility which has to be considered.
Believe me; if it is psychological, anything that furthers the person's belief can be very harmful.
No its people insisting someone is insane and shoving medication down their throats that turn them overweight, lethargic and generally sedated........ that will keep them nice and quiet so they stop upsetting everyone and we can watch American Idol in peace.....BBelieve me; if it is psychological, anything that furthers the person's belief can be very harmful.
halfhandshuffle:greenday american idol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo7Vg03-ReI
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 2 2007, 09:45 PM) [snapback]1609670[/snapback]
No its people insisting someone is insane and shoving medication down their throughts that turn them overweight, lethargic and generally sedated........ that will keep them nice and quiet so they stop upsetting everyone and we can watch American Idol in peace.....B
halfhandshuffle:greenday american idol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo7Vg03-ReI
halfhandshuffle:greenday american idol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo7Vg03-ReI
LOL........
QUOTE(i_believe12 @ Apr 2 2007, 03:00 AM) [snapback]1608750[/snapback]
When I was 8 years old, and still extremely naive and interested in the occult (I still am deeply interested in the occult), I bought my friend, let's call her Joanna a Oujiia board,
Hi Vicky,
I can't understand how at 8 years old, you were interested in the occult.......I don't even think my 9 year old knows how to spell, occult......
Also, how were you able to buy a Oujiia board, without your parents knowledge ?? Or did they know ?? Have you confided in them about this situation ?? What do they think ??
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 2 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]1609630[/snapback]
I generally agree with you, but i must say; GOD CARES, AND HE DOES DO SOMETHING, when we comes to Him with our problems and conserns. Often the things He does, is some other things that people expect (He knows what is the best for us) and that is why people complains - they dont always get what they expect - but in the end, it always turns up for the best.
Try Him, have an open mind for what may come and put God to the test
Try Him, have an open mind for what may come and put God to the test
I don't think you got my post. God is testing me and I don't think he would like me testing him/it
I would never pressume to do so. I believe in a God, I do not need any one to tell me that, I have been aware of Gods presence from as far back as I can remember and I was not from a church going family. Although I suspect God may not be the God we all think it is.
QUOTE(Lord Storm @ Apr 2 2007, 01:03 PM) [snapback]1609736[/snapback]
I don't think you got my post. God is testing me and I don't think he would like me testing him/it I would never pressume to do so. I believe in a God, I do not need any one to tell me that, I have been aware of Gods presence from as far back as I can remember and I was not from a church going family.
I would never pressume to do so. I believe in a God, I do not need any one to tell me that, I have been aware of Gods presence from as far back as I can remember and I was not from a church going family.You wrote that God cares, i know, my entention was to emphasize that God also ACT - thats my beleive and experience annyway.
I was not trying to devalue your beleive, to do so i had to think i have the whole truth - and i dont, i still try to learn
English is not my native language, so i might not have expressed my self correctly. When i say "try Him" and "put God to the test" i simply mean "to give it a try" - "try it out" (i hope it is clarer now) I would never dare to "test" God in the way you understood my post
QUOTE(Lord Storm @ Apr 2 2007, 01:03 PM) [snapback]1609736[/snapback]
I suspect God may not be the God we all think it is.
I think you are right, we may werry well all be in for a big surprise
This is a good example of what happens when you fool around with the occult....especially a oijia board. And those aren't shadows, but demons which you allowed to enter when you opened the portal.
Go see a shaman or priest and get some religion.
Whats a hag attack?
Go see a shaman or priest and get some religion.
Whats a hag attack?
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 2 2007, 03:14 PM) [snapback]1609823[/snapback]
You wrote that God cares, i know, my entention was to emphasize that God also ACT - thats my beleive and experience annyway.
I was not trying to devalue your beleive, to do so i had to think i have the whole truth - and i dont, i still try to learn
English is not my native language, so i might not have expressed my self correctly. When i say "try Him" and "put God to the test" i simply mean "to give it a try" - "try it out" (i hope it is clarer now) I would never dare to "test" God in the way you understood my post
I think you are right, we may werry well all be in for a big surprise
I was not trying to devalue your beleive, to do so i had to think i have the whole truth - and i dont, i still try to learn
English is not my native language, so i might not have expressed my self correctly. When i say "try Him" and "put God to the test" i simply mean "to give it a try" - "try it out" (i hope it is clarer now) I would never dare to "test" God in the way you understood my post
I think you are right, we may werry well all be in for a big surprise
I guess we agree with eachother in principal
I stand by my first post though as a way of dealing with these intruders. I have had very few problems from other world entities of late perhaps it is my harsh way of dismissing them, even makes me feel guilty sometimes. I liken it to crushing a small fly with a 25 lb sledge. I like to be sure
QUOTE(Lord Storm @ Apr 2 2007, 02:52 PM) [snapback]1609870[/snapback]
I stand by my first post though as a way of dealing with these intruders. I have had very few problems from other world entities of late perhaps it is my harsh way of dismissing them, even makes me feel guilty sometimes.
Also here we agree, i know that we also can contribute to get these beings kicked out, and the best way, is to be determined and give them a good psykic beating. And if you also has a prair to throw at them, they often do in their pants.
Unfortinally, they are sometimes that for one reason ore another, it is harder than that to get complitely rid of them, and in those cases, i will recomend a priest ore a werry strong beleiver, who has some experience in this.
QUOTE(Lord Storm @ Apr 2 2007, 02:52 PM) [snapback]1609870[/snapback]
I liken it to crushing a small fly with a 25 lb sledge. I like to be sure
Right on
Theres nothing as a good round of demonslaying 
QUOTE(Lord Storm @ Apr 2 2007, 01:42 AM) [snapback]1609509[/snapback]
If you start disrupting thier energy patterns they may get pissed off and leave.
Yo!pissed off or scared .....
and if shadows are all you got out of this consider yourself lucky,thats an easy fix, we all agree....NEXT TIME YOU MAY GET SOMETHING THAT WILL ACTUALLY PUT UP A FIGHT
......B
Hey Guys-
To answer a major concern that seems to be here:
1) Josh wasn't asleep when it happened, herego it's not SP (sleep paralysis)
2) The shadow beings are definetely humaniod in shape, and make me feel scared for my life...I'm not sure how else you want me to describe them, so just lemme know
3) I, nor anyone I've ever known to have dealings with the paranormal, have ever had sleep paralysis...so...I am really sure that it's not that.
Anymore questions, ask away!! Thank you all for the advice, it's really sweet of you!!
Love,
Vicky
To answer a major concern that seems to be here:
1) Josh wasn't asleep when it happened, herego it's not SP (sleep paralysis)
2) The shadow beings are definetely humaniod in shape, and make me feel scared for my life...I'm not sure how else you want me to describe them, so just lemme know
3) I, nor anyone I've ever known to have dealings with the paranormal, have ever had sleep paralysis...so...I am really sure that it's not that.
Anymore questions, ask away!! Thank you all for the advice, it's really sweet of you!!
Love,
Vicky
QUOTE(MUM24/7 @ Apr 2 2007, 08:07 AM) [snapback]1609690[/snapback]
Hi Vicky,
I can't understand how at 8 years old, you were interested in the occult.......I don't even think my 9 year old knows how to spell, occult......
Also, how were you able to buy a Oujiia board, without your parents knowledge ?? Or did they know ?? Have you confided in them about this situation ?? What do they think ??
I can't understand how at 8 years old, you were interested in the occult.......I don't even think my 9 year old knows how to spell, occult......
Also, how were you able to buy a Oujiia board, without your parents knowledge ?? Or did they know ?? Have you confided in them about this situation ?? What do they think ??
My parents bought me the Ouijia board, and they have no clue about this situation at all...I mean the closest they ever get to finding out is when things go completely missing in my room, and no one can find them, and then they show up in another room later...
QUOTE(i_believe12 @ Apr 2 2007, 07:45 PM) [snapback]1610634[/snapback]
Hey Guys-
To answer a major concern that seems to be here:
1) Josh wasn't asleep when it happened, herego it's not SP (sleep paralysis)
2) The shadow beings are definetely humaniod in shape, and make me feel scared for my life...I'm not sure how else you want me to describe them, so just lemme know
3) I, nor anyone I've ever known to have dealings with the paranormal, have ever had sleep paralysis...so...I am really sure that it's not that.
Anymore questions, ask away!! Thank you all for the advice, it's really sweet of you!!
Love,
Vicky
hey VickyTo answer a major concern that seems to be here:
1) Josh wasn't asleep when it happened, herego it's not SP (sleep paralysis)
2) The shadow beings are definetely humaniod in shape, and make me feel scared for my life...I'm not sure how else you want me to describe them, so just lemme know
3) I, nor anyone I've ever known to have dealings with the paranormal, have ever had sleep paralysis...so...I am really sure that it's not that.
Anymore questions, ask away!! Thank you all for the advice, it's really sweet of you!!
Love,
Vicky
just to clarify, I personally feel that in some instances SP is induced by paranormal entities... this is an opinion some of my fellow regulars like to beat me up for, but a theory I stand by none the less....welcome to UM btw.....B
halfhandshuffle:the who-smothers bros.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr81olQ1ibk...ted&search=
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 2 2007, 05:58 PM) [snapback]1610012[/snapback]
Yo!
pissed off or scared .....
and if shadows are all you got out of this consider yourself lucky,thats an easy fix, we all agree....NEXT TIME YOU MAY GET SOMETHING THAT WILL ACTUALLY PUT UP A FIGHT ......B
pissed off or scared .....
and if shadows are all you got out of this consider yourself lucky,thats an easy fix, we all agree....NEXT TIME YOU MAY GET SOMETHING THAT WILL ACTUALLY PUT UP A FIGHT
......BHeh, well you have to start off easy. Don't wanna fight Tyson on your fist time in the ring.....hmm but then maybe YOU would
QUOTE(Anvil @ Apr 1 2007, 05:01 PM) [snapback]1608979[/snapback]
I think you've been deeply psychologically hurt by the ouija experience, I'm not sure what age you are now? But this sense of not feeling safe only subsides when you're with your boyfriend? Then we have got to get this sorted out!
I just can't help but recognise this as paranoid fear. The hag experience you mention (in my eyes anyway) does not belong in the paranormal, sleep paralysis is a sleep disorder, nothing more nothing less (IMO)
One episode of SP does not make somebody 'aware' or is the 'reason' why these shadows leave you alone when you're with him. It may be that he is aware and has a strong positive energy but it's not because of the hag dream.
Let me ask you this...What is there to fear exactly? What is it that you're so very scared of? Is it something you can't explain but just feel or?
I would take a good guess that part of the problem is some misinformation, I discovered over the years that there is so much bull out there, bit by bit as I developed I found out what is and to be for myself...
tackling the fear and shadows.
Fear is a powerful thing, it controls, manipulates and steals energy, but the source also relies on fear to feed. Negative energy/shadows are just that, bundles of negative energy that swim about like 2 brain cell jelly fish in the sea.
It may be that the energy or presence conjures or radiates a bad or uneasy feeling....... but the actual fear belongs to you, You always have the choice and power in how you react or interpret something, nothing else can do that for you.....
When it comes to the unknown it's very easy to misinterpret your own emotions/reactions, sometimes to the extent of confusing them for something paranormal...Fear also arouses various things in the body and mind, IE, Adrenalin = fight or flight responses, sharper senses etc...
The relationship with fear and negative shadows/energies is simple (not all are negative) but the more you feel and project fear, the more you are feeding that energy. It's like saying what you put out in thought and energy (vibe) is what you will attract... These shadows can't hurt you they are harmless, these energies are limited in how they can interact with us...the idea is to get your own feelings under control and then you can cut them off....
If you would like to talk about this further, send me a pm and we can meet in the site chatroom, I can do a remote cleansing and have a look at what's going on exactly
This is good advice. They said it best in Dune. "Fear is the mind killer". You should however use caution when dealing with unknowns like this. Find out all you can, and seek help if you need it. Knowledge is power.
Good Journey.
Kyle Rajasthan.
I just can't help but recognise this as paranoid fear. The hag experience you mention (in my eyes anyway) does not belong in the paranormal, sleep paralysis is a sleep disorder, nothing more nothing less (IMO)
One episode of SP does not make somebody 'aware' or is the 'reason' why these shadows leave you alone when you're with him. It may be that he is aware and has a strong positive energy but it's not because of the hag dream.
Let me ask you this...What is there to fear exactly? What is it that you're so very scared of? Is it something you can't explain but just feel or?
I would take a good guess that part of the problem is some misinformation, I discovered over the years that there is so much bull out there, bit by bit as I developed I found out what is and to be for myself...
tackling the fear and shadows.
Fear is a powerful thing, it controls, manipulates and steals energy, but the source also relies on fear to feed. Negative energy/shadows are just that, bundles of negative energy that swim about like 2 brain cell jelly fish in the sea.
It may be that the energy or presence conjures or radiates a bad or uneasy feeling....... but the actual fear belongs to you, You always have the choice and power in how you react or interpret something, nothing else can do that for you.....
When it comes to the unknown it's very easy to misinterpret your own emotions/reactions, sometimes to the extent of confusing them for something paranormal...Fear also arouses various things in the body and mind, IE, Adrenalin = fight or flight responses, sharper senses etc...
The relationship with fear and negative shadows/energies is simple (not all are negative) but the more you feel and project fear, the more you are feeding that energy. It's like saying what you put out in thought and energy (vibe) is what you will attract... These shadows can't hurt you they are harmless, these energies are limited in how they can interact with us...the idea is to get your own feelings under control and then you can cut them off....
If you would like to talk about this further, send me a pm and we can meet in the site chatroom, I can do a remote cleansing and have a look at what's going on exactly
This is good advice. They said it best in Dune. "Fear is the mind killer". You should however use caution when dealing with unknowns like this. Find out all you can, and seek help if you need it. Knowledge is power.
Good Journey.
Kyle Rajasthan.
QUOTE(Lord Storm @ Apr 3 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]1611443[/snapback]
Heh, well you have to start off easy. Don't wanna fight Tyson on your fist time in the ring.....hmm but then maybe YOU would
if I did that I would have to change my name to "barek half-EAR"........BA-ZING!..........BQUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 4 2007, 03:00 PM) [snapback]1612806[/snapback]
if I did that I would have to change my name to "barek half-EAR"........BA-ZING!..........B
It has a nice ring to it
Hey, Get off your ass and stop typing fake ass stories onto a good(now ruined by lies)web site and do what normal teenagers do.(Besides breaking laws)
QUOTE(solidryane @ Apr 5 2007, 02:33 AM) [snapback]1613924[/snapback]
Hey, Get off your ass and stop typing fake ass stories onto a good(now ruined by lies)web site and do what normal teenagers do.(Besides breaking laws)
Would you try to deepen your disingenuous statement
I think it it is posts like yours, that ruins this site.
Vicky - Dont mind solidryane, sadly some people just have to be patronizing, i guess, it is a way to make them feel better about themselfs
QUOTE(i_believe12 @ Apr 2 2007, 03:00 AM) [snapback]1608750[/snapback]
Hey Everyone,
When I was 8 years old, and still extremely naive and interested in the occult (I still am deeply interested in the occult), I bought my friend, let's call her Joanna a Oujiia board, and that night when everyone else who was at the party was asleep, we took it out (everyone else was scared, and rightly so) and we asked the board how many people were in the room. Now the party was 10 girls, including Jo and I, and the board said 15. Joanna and I looked at each other scared, and she said "I know one is my grandfather...Vicky...I'm scared...". I then told her not to worry, and that I would protect her from anything, her being my best treasure chest friend, and I being the tomboy and muscle in the friendship, she being the pretty one. We asked the board if I was ever going to find true love, and it said yes, and then when we thought it was over, it moved to say "s.o.r.r.y.f.o.r.i.t.g.i.r.l.s.". We didn't know what it meant, but ever since we "played" with it, I have been followed everywhere by 4 "shadow" beings- and when I say everywhere, I mean it. The only place I don't feel their presence in when I am with my boyfriend, Josh. He had a hag attack when he was about 9, so I think because he is aware as well, it helps to keep them away; I just get such a safe feeling when I'm with him, which is the only time I DO feel safe, and I'm postive it is because he experianced something around the same age as me. Can anyone help me to ease, or fully get rid of the presence of these spirits when I am not with my boyfriend? We have a long-distance relationship, so I hardly get to see him, and I need to get these spirits away, because I have been getting such a bad feeling in my stomach like something is going to happen. Can anyone please, PLEASE help me????
Love,
Vicky
When I was 8 years old, and still extremely naive and interested in the occult (I still am deeply interested in the occult), I bought my friend, let's call her Joanna a Oujiia board, and that night when everyone else who was at the party was asleep, we took it out (everyone else was scared, and rightly so) and we asked the board how many people were in the room. Now the party was 10 girls, including Jo and I, and the board said 15. Joanna and I looked at each other scared, and she said "I know one is my grandfather...Vicky...I'm scared...". I then told her not to worry, and that I would protect her from anything, her being my best treasure chest friend, and I being the tomboy and muscle in the friendship, she being the pretty one. We asked the board if I was ever going to find true love, and it said yes, and then when we thought it was over, it moved to say "s.o.r.r.y.f.o.r.i.t.g.i.r.l.s.". We didn't know what it meant, but ever since we "played" with it, I have been followed everywhere by 4 "shadow" beings- and when I say everywhere, I mean it. The only place I don't feel their presence in when I am with my boyfriend, Josh. He had a hag attack when he was about 9, so I think because he is aware as well, it helps to keep them away; I just get such a safe feeling when I'm with him, which is the only time I DO feel safe, and I'm postive it is because he experianced something around the same age as me. Can anyone help me to ease, or fully get rid of the presence of these spirits when I am not with my boyfriend? We have a long-distance relationship, so I hardly get to see him, and I need to get these spirits away, because I have been getting such a bad feeling in my stomach like something is going to happen. Can anyone please, PLEASE help me????
Love,
Vicky
when are people going to learn that those boards are trouble, seriously the amount of people who are crazy enough to play with them, its just a dumb thing to do, you may as well put a 'all spirits welcome' sign on your door ( never tried it but i still feel it would be much safer lol) and then you end up here or some other place on the internet and expect us to help you, which we do beacuse we find it interesting reading peoples bad expiriences with them, and we learn yet again why people shouldnt use them.
i think you should get a priest in or someone who can preform an exorcism. that may or may not work depending on what exactly you have in the house. good luck, just promise me you wont go using one of those boards again ok. lol good luck, i hope you can get rid of the shadow ghost or whatever it may or may not call itself.
i still find it shocking that hasbro actually sold them as toys at one stage.
I had an experience with a Wigi Board (yes I know its spelt wrong) A friend was trying to contact someone who had died from her past. It did not go well, the feeling in the room was awefull and the feeling I was getting from the messages coming through was not nice. I was aware of a nasty presence in the room. I was was shocked and angry when I found out who she was trying to talk to. She was trying to contact a child she had miscarried. It took me a good while to get rid of this spirit which was not the spirit of some unborn child.
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Lord Storm that is 
but I don't think many realise this and if they did perhaps there wouldn't be so many messed up oujia experiences....
Ouija boards or with mediumship, does not happen like looking a phone book up to give so in so a 'call'... There are things that we don't know or understand and this is one of them... while it's possible for a person with the right skill and ability to remove or move a spirit on, it's not possible to demand or ask a specific spirit to come forward unless it's known that the spirit is already around, ie sensed or seen...but even then its intirely up to them how much they interact if at all... it's just how it seems to be...
Using a oujia board in this manner will likely lead to confusion...
but I don't think many realise this and if they did perhaps there wouldn't be so many messed up oujia experiences.... Ouija boards or with mediumship, does not happen like looking a phone book up to give so in so a 'call'... There are things that we don't know or understand and this is one of them... while it's possible for a person with the right skill and ability to remove or move a spirit on, it's not possible to demand or ask a specific spirit to come forward unless it's known that the spirit is already around, ie sensed or seen...but even then its intirely up to them how much they interact if at all... it's just how it seems to be...
Using a oujia board in this manner will likely lead to confusion...
QUOTE(Anvil @ Apr 5 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]1614427[/snapback]
Lord Storm that is but I don't think many realise this and if they did perhaps there wouldn't be so many messed up oujia experiences....
Ouija boards or with mediumship, does not happen like looking a phone book up to give so in so a 'call'... There are things that we don't know or understand and this is one of them... while it's possible for a person with the right skill and ability to remove or move a spirit on, it's not possible to demand or ask a specific spirit to come forward unless it's known that the spirit is already around, ie sensed or seen...but even then its intirely up to them how much they interact if at all... it's just how it seems to be...
Using a oujia board in this manner will likely lead to confusion...
but I don't think many realise this and if they did perhaps there wouldn't be so many messed up oujia experiences.... Ouija boards or with mediumship, does not happen like looking a phone book up to give so in so a 'call'... There are things that we don't know or understand and this is one of them... while it's possible for a person with the right skill and ability to remove or move a spirit on, it's not possible to demand or ask a specific spirit to come forward unless it's known that the spirit is already around, ie sensed or seen...but even then its intirely up to them how much they interact if at all... it's just how it seems to be...
Using a oujia board in this manner will likely lead to confusion...
Good post! I agree wholeheartedly.
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QUOTE
I personally feel that in some instances SP is induced by paranormal entities... this is an opinion some of my fellow regulars like to beat me up for, but a theory I stand by none the less....welcome to UM btw.....B
I wholeheartedly agree with this as well.
QUOTE(Anvil @ Apr 5 2007, 03:47 PM) [snapback]1614427[/snapback]
Lord Storm that is but I don't think many realise this and if they did perhaps there wouldn't be so many messed up oujia experiences....
Ouija boards or with mediumship, does not happen like looking a phone book up to give so in so a 'call'... There are things that we don't know or understand and this is one of them... while it's possible for a person with the right skill and ability to remove or move a spirit on, it's not possible to demand or ask a specific spirit to come forward unless it's known that the spirit is already around, ie sensed or seen...but even then its intirely up to them how much they interact if at all... it's just how it seems to be...
Using a oujia board in this manner will likely lead to confusion...
but I don't think many realise this and if they did perhaps there wouldn't be so many messed up oujia experiences.... Ouija boards or with mediumship, does not happen like looking a phone book up to give so in so a 'call'... There are things that we don't know or understand and this is one of them... while it's possible for a person with the right skill and ability to remove or move a spirit on, it's not possible to demand or ask a specific spirit to come forward unless it's known that the spirit is already around, ie sensed or seen...but even then its intirely up to them how much they interact if at all... it's just how it seems to be...
Using a oujia board in this manner will likely lead to confusion...
That is why I was angry as I was reluctant in the first place as I knew what could happen with a Ouija Board. I was not too worried as I could deal with anything I had ever come across in the spiritual realm(so far). The way that she was using the Ouija may have brought in something beyond my ability. I can deal with a lot but there is always someone out there who is bigger and stronger, just havent met him/her/it yet.
I was kinda sad for her though after all that, she got some horrible creature that initialy pretended to be her unborn child.....the things it was saying in the end were not nice and probably emotionaly scared her. The guilt she wanted to release was made worse rather than better. It did not help when I explained (nicely) that the being she was talking to was not her unborn child. Many tears were shed by quite a few people that night.
Dear Vicky,
It sounds to me like you have followers. They are not necissarily bad or good. That you will not know untill they acctually make them selves known as being bad or good. I have had several experiences with these kinds of "hauntings" and as you described, so far the only real sure thing in all of the cases, is that every one of them has used a ouija board. Ouija boards are very dangerous because they do not just let in benign spirits. Ouija boards can let anything out into your area that wants to connect. The main thing about spirits, is that just because they talk to you, does not mean what they say is truthfull. You have to remember, even in death a spirit is capable of deception. If you can...again, since it was so long ago, this is a big IF, get ahold of the ouija board that you used, take it to a church and have it blessed and then destroy it, including the planchette. One way, that I have found works very well to also tell if you truly have things following you or if you just get that "someones following me" feeling all the time, is by doing what is called a spirit block. I will describe how to do that in a bit. If you would like to speak with me more thouroughly on this matter, please email me at paratrax@hotmail.com. I will also bring this subject up to my team of paranormal investigators. Now as for the description of how to do a spirit block.
what you need:
A candle, the color does not matter, nor the size, just dont have the candle black...not wise color for this sort of thing.
One cup/bowl/goblet of water
One cup/bowl/goblet of salt, preferably sea salt.
A large peice of wood that is flat.
Set the peice of wood somewhere flat and quiet. Then place the vessel with water on the west side, and the vessel with the salt on the east side. the candle will go in the middle of the two vessels. Draw a circle of salt in a circle four inches away from the candle, then in a + or X pattern, bring in four small trails of salt to meet the candle. Once you are done with this, relax, sit and clear your thoughts, think of blackness, when you are ready, state your name and your purpose for doing this.
The way you will ask questions is to yeild a yes or no answer, the way you will tell your answers, is by the north side of the salt is yes, and the south side is no. A spirit block does not allow anything to get through, but you can still talk to the spirits, it is much safer than a ouija board.
again, I hope this works for you and I hope you get the answers you are searching for, if you need any further help please do not hesitate to email me.
Paratrax
It sounds to me like you have followers. They are not necissarily bad or good. That you will not know untill they acctually make them selves known as being bad or good. I have had several experiences with these kinds of "hauntings" and as you described, so far the only real sure thing in all of the cases, is that every one of them has used a ouija board. Ouija boards are very dangerous because they do not just let in benign spirits. Ouija boards can let anything out into your area that wants to connect. The main thing about spirits, is that just because they talk to you, does not mean what they say is truthfull. You have to remember, even in death a spirit is capable of deception. If you can...again, since it was so long ago, this is a big IF, get ahold of the ouija board that you used, take it to a church and have it blessed and then destroy it, including the planchette. One way, that I have found works very well to also tell if you truly have things following you or if you just get that "someones following me" feeling all the time, is by doing what is called a spirit block. I will describe how to do that in a bit. If you would like to speak with me more thouroughly on this matter, please email me at paratrax@hotmail.com. I will also bring this subject up to my team of paranormal investigators. Now as for the description of how to do a spirit block.
what you need:
A candle, the color does not matter, nor the size, just dont have the candle black...not wise color for this sort of thing.
One cup/bowl/goblet of water
One cup/bowl/goblet of salt, preferably sea salt.
A large peice of wood that is flat.
Set the peice of wood somewhere flat and quiet. Then place the vessel with water on the west side, and the vessel with the salt on the east side. the candle will go in the middle of the two vessels. Draw a circle of salt in a circle four inches away from the candle, then in a + or X pattern, bring in four small trails of salt to meet the candle. Once you are done with this, relax, sit and clear your thoughts, think of blackness, when you are ready, state your name and your purpose for doing this.
The way you will ask questions is to yeild a yes or no answer, the way you will tell your answers, is by the north side of the salt is yes, and the south side is no. A spirit block does not allow anything to get through, but you can still talk to the spirits, it is much safer than a ouija board.
again, I hope this works for you and I hope you get the answers you are searching for, if you need any further help please do not hesitate to email me.
Paratrax
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Now as for the description of how to do a spirit block.
what you need:
A candle, the color does not matter, nor the size, just dont have the candle black...not wise color for this sort of thing.
One cup/bowl/goblet of water
One cup/bowl/goblet of salt, preferably sea salt.
A large peice of wood that is flat.
Set the peice of wood somewhere flat and quiet. Then place the vessel with water on the west side, and the vessel with the salt on the east side. the candle will go in the middle of the two vessels. Draw a circle of salt in a circle four inches away from the candle, then in a + or X pattern, bring in four small trails of salt to meet the candle. Once you are done with this, relax, sit and clear your thoughts, think of blackness, when you are ready, state your name and your purpose for doing this.
The way you will ask questions is to yeild a yes or no answer, the way you will tell your answers, is by the north side of the salt is yes, and the south side is no. A spirit block does not allow anything to get through, but you can still talk to the spirits, it is much safer than a ouija board.
Paratrax
what you need:
A candle, the color does not matter, nor the size, just dont have the candle black...not wise color for this sort of thing.
One cup/bowl/goblet of water
One cup/bowl/goblet of salt, preferably sea salt.
A large peice of wood that is flat.
Set the peice of wood somewhere flat and quiet. Then place the vessel with water on the west side, and the vessel with the salt on the east side. the candle will go in the middle of the two vessels. Draw a circle of salt in a circle four inches away from the candle, then in a + or X pattern, bring in four small trails of salt to meet the candle. Once you are done with this, relax, sit and clear your thoughts, think of blackness, when you are ready, state your name and your purpose for doing this.
The way you will ask questions is to yeild a yes or no answer, the way you will tell your answers, is by the north side of the salt is yes, and the south side is no. A spirit block does not allow anything to get through, but you can still talk to the spirits, it is much safer than a ouija board.
Paratrax
I think the last thing Vicky needs is to play with annything having to do with "talking to spirits" As you mention yourself, you never know what you will meet, when you open a gate to the spiritual world, and there is absolute NO difference between this ritual you call a "spirit block" and the ouija board.
Every time people is trying to open a channel ore summon annything, a gate to the spiritual realm will be opened, and annything can find its way through it, more spirits, ore more likely even demons, and beleive me, most of these are way to strong, to be afraid of some candles, water and a little salt.
Some people often makes the mistake, thinking they can control these things, with some ritual ore magic "protection" Well there is ONLY ONE thing demons fear, is their opponent, the Good God!
Tell them to leave you alone, and that there not welcome. but be stern. i did this when i was younger, every few years they wouldcome back, but the duration was longer and longer. its prob about 8 years now since i had any visitors. i hope i didnt just jinx myself. lol. goodluck 2u.
it may sound silly but it kinda worked for me. Get a good luck charm. a bible close by wouldnt hurt...
it may sound silly but it kinda worked for me. Get a good luck charm. a bible close by wouldnt hurt...
Im my opinion- just one experience from a ouija board isn't going to cause such an open door- or flood of demons, whatnot. It may, but it's seems too unlikely. Just for the mere fact that these "shadows" disappear conveniently when her boyfriend IS around is VERY suspicious-- gives some insight to what's going on. I *think* this is her imagination, and is slighty paranoid from her one experience. Her imagination is more than likely went wild due to the paranoia aspect of it, and of course the knight in shining armor keeps them at bay....my opinion of course. :}
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