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Laughing at your enemies and killing them are two different things. The Bible says God will throw your enemies to hell.
well, again... since this post are about a SPECIFIC sect of Christians... who did they kill? since you keep bringing that point up..
the Bible DOES say that He will throw HIS enemies to hell, not ours...
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And you don't think they've read the Bible? That's a baseless assumption. Take for example, the KKK. Here's the repulsive little modern home online for the KKK:
http://www.kkk.bz/ The whole site is based on Christianity. That's their prime driving force.
i don't recall the Bible saying anything about hating Jews... which the KKK pushes all the time... and Jesus was Jewish...
i don't care what anyone thinks... they KKK are an ignorant group of complete idiots... the hate Jews, but follw a religion basd on a Jewish man...
if anyone is offended by my statement about the kkk... so what...
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There's a reason many things in the Bible are illegal today. And I didn't mention it saying to kill murderers and rapists because I don't place petty offenders (or people who are not in the wrong.. i-e homosexuals), in the same group as murderers and rapists as the Bible does.
i guess that would be a matter of opinion between you and the writers of the Bible...
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So it's okay for the Bible to give gross laws because there are gross laws in existence today.. in a Christian nation nonetheless?
i woudldn't exactly call this a Christian nation... but whatever...
just because you don't agree with a law doesn't make it wrong or right...
i think it's wrong that cigarettes are legal... they CAN kill the person who smokes and the people around them, innocent children (for all you people on the board that smoke and say the Bible condones child abuse) and adults die everyday from cigarette smoke...
furthermore, cigarette smoke is legal... but assisted suicide isn't? what's the difference?
but just because we don't agree with a law doesn't define whether it is wrong or right... it's just our OPINION...
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And? Does no accountability in the afterlife remove our ethical judgment? There's a thing called empathy, atheists have it too.
i never said they didn't... i'm talking about the person that comes along and does whatever they want because they THINK that this is it and it doesn't matter what they do...
Christians can act the same way if they misinterpret the Bible and think they are doing God's will...
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And how many atheists do you REALLY think converted to Christianity? Christians could also convert to atheism, so it remains fair. Whether the statistics are presented with an agenda or not does not change the fact that atheists make up about 5-10% of the population, yet only .1% of the prison population.
lots of people convert to a religion in prison... the conversion rate is very HIGH... in fact, it is probably higher than non prison conversion... based on population inside and outside of the prison walls...
and it only makes sense that a minority belief would make up the minority of the prison population... but the statistics aren't even... if you have 5% of a population vs. 65 - 70% of the rest of the population... the number still don't add up... now if they were 50/50 i would indeed agree with you... and by the way... i left that extra few percent for other religions and beliefs...
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Is it that difficult to understand what I said? If the Bible did not exist, many murders would not have happened. I never said murder would not exist, but there would be less murders.
really? what about the satanic bible...
rule #4 (paraphrasing) if someone in your lair annoys you... destroy them
rule #11 (paraphrasing) if someone walking down the street annoys you destroy them, but only after you ask them to stop annoying you.
that is a BLATENT act of condoning murder... no matter how you try to explain it...
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There is a lot to Christianity outside of Jesus Christ. I'm saying there is a biblical basis for what those organizations were doing. There is also a biblical basis for some people who love other people, I didn't say there wasn't.. but I'm not going to write off the death of a person because another person is spreading joy. I'm not "proving my point", my point is proven, there is biblical basis for the acts commited by evil Christian organizations. That's a fact, not an opinion. I'm reiterating my point over and over again, because thephantum doesn't seem to get it.
there is also a societal (i think that's a word... lol) basis for everything that happens also... you could use the Bible to prove that the only reason you have morals is because of the Bible... and really you could use the Bible as a basis for proving almost anything you want to...
science... in the Bible
earth round... in the Bible
war... in the Bible
law... in the Bible
love... in the Bible
hate... in the Bible
relationship... etc... all in the Bible
so why is it when people do good... it's not such a big deal... but when a small groupd does bad... all of a sudden, that's the Bible's fault...