It seems to be a popular opinion that, if God is real and lets things that we in our shortsightedness describe as negative, happen to us, then He is evil. So if there is a God and He lets things happen to us because He does not get involved, then how does that square with the popular notion of "God should be the way we want Him to be?" In other words, all over these boards, people are crying about the inequality and utter unfairness of "bad" things happening to us without God making them stop, so when these bad things happen to us, and we put them in light of a God that is there and just doesn't stop them, is that not about the same as convincting God for bad things happening? Or, is that somehow different? Is this god of our design better or worse than the God of the Bible?

"Exactly" what? We have the ability to make choices. We have the ability to rationalize and problem solve.
So, God should be held responsible for all mankind and our bad choices for the fact God has the power to make it right? Mankind shouldn't blame its' mistakes on itself with influence from the enemy? So people can blame God for their own failures......--> Its all God's fault b/c he didn't save me from screwing my life up? It's God's fault b/c I'm addicted to drugs, and live on the streets?
The strange thing is we have control over one teeny tiny element in our entire universe.. that's the element of choice we make thru our adult lives. We don't choose when we're born, die, parents, whatever... but we can make decisions within our lifetimes to do right or wrong. To hurt or help. That is the only authority that's given to us over our lives. To literally think about how small we are compared to how Great God is is most definately a puncture wound to the over-inflated ego.

Texasgirlheather.

No, That is a bunny under a pancake, you are looking at it wrong.

If you want Equal. You need to be reborn blind, then reborn lame, Reborn in China, Reborn rich, reborn poor, reborn male, reborn female, etc till you get all the different circumstances of life.

Then we have to go through all the different events that happen to a person, Cancer, MS, Aids, Broken legs, broken back. Healthy all your life, Etc.

Then the others, Your Children, No Children, Sick Children, Dying Children, nice Children, Bad Children. etc till all those things are done to everyone equal.

Don’t forget the wide variety of Spouses. You got to have a few of each type. Nice, abusers, etc, Ones who can not cook. Ones who leave with no forwarding addresses.

Sounds like we will need Eternity just to cover all the options and have FAIR established on earth. By the way, “Fair, is an illusion dreamed up by Children.”

Now the Churches do not have a very high level of Honesty when it comes to some things. What Child is not told of how God saved Daniel from the Lion’s den? But what happened to telling them of the thousands who were devoured by the lions? And that was not a very nice way to die.

But, Daniel did not petition the King, a Similitude for “No man cometh unto the Father but by Me.” So Daniel is DEAD in Christ, or with Jesus in the Sepulchre which is the den of the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, For the Law (Sorry Daniel) Justifies no man.

So telling of all God will do and protect you, Might or might not happen. Either way, God is still God, And sooner or later we leave this earth and go to Him.

If God did totally protect us, and provide for us, That would draw believers. But for the wrong reasons. Not out of a desire to know Him which should be the reason to come. So the believers get the same as the non-believers on earth. And in Heaven, the Non-believers get the same as the Believers.

Like the laborers, Come early, Come late, And even do not come, We all get to go Home to a loving God.

Ken

Fair, nice, and equal, taken at their superficial meaning, are Utopian, New World Order-ey, Hilary Clinton-ish, socialist ideals. To say that we all have the same end regardless of what choices we made, seems to me simplistic and childish. To what purpose would all of those earthly tests be, if the way we handled them weren't to have an effect?

The way I see it, that's a gray perspective-- The grays end up all the same way-- no where land.
People who don't know God have nothing to go home too- but no where- that doesn't include those of us that do.

I'm not sure what you mean by grey.

Someone who doesn't have a perspective on God, or the spiritual realm. Someone who is spiritually dead/ disconnected. They feel they have nothing to look forward too, or feels nothing really matters b/c everything ends up the same way.... However, I disagree with that. That is what I mean by gray.

i agree... because people want the feeling that God will accept them.. even though they don't have a desire to believe in Him... but just in case He does exist... they want to believe He will accept them into the heaven that they DIDN'T desire while they were still alive...

You just about have everything figured out don't you? Not!!!

What?

That means...imagination was more important.

Woah woah woah.. when did anyone say anything about not believing in anything spiritual? the only thing im doubting here is religion and the idea that if we follow a certain way of life we are going to be blessed into paradise..im doubting the fact that we have to go to church every sunday or god will send you to hell. I do in fact believe in a spriritual part of life it just isnt the way that the media makes it out to be. Im wondering why it is that so many people devout there lifes into the church, think about this, if god didnt want us to kill or steal or anything, why would it be programmed as a plausible action in our minds? he simply wouldve disconnected the thought from our brains, the reason the 10 commandments were made was so that people would try and lead a good life without breaking the law, so that people that were controlling them at the time had a tighter grip on them, by controlling the church.

I happen to think you don't have to go to church to be saved or blessed, I have found most church's are more about money and power then God anymore..I myself believe in God and and the power he hold's. I don't really buy into the bible cause it was wrote by men for men and the church left way to many book's out i think....But God is something you have to find for yourself no one can tell you that if you don't believe your going to burn in hell or that God will turn his back on you, This is a personal thing that each person must find and decide on for themseleve's......

I don't speak for you and would appreciate it if you didn't speak for me. I'm no more "spiritually" dead than the oak trees in the yard. I'm fully connected to this planet, and appreciate all it can, and has, provided. It pains me to see what we're doing. It's unconscionable that our legacy to our children, and their children, will amount to toxic waste...a byproduct of obscene greed.
Seems to me those who speak of religion and the importance of knowing god - like, for instance, the Bush regime in the whitehouse - are the first to condemn those who don't believe the way they do. They're goosestepping for god...and their behavior is anything but godly.