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thaphantum
i heard this quote... i have no idea who said it... mostly because the person i heard it from doesn't remember where they hear it...

"ultimately a man walks his path alone"

what is your interpretation of it and does it hold any significan value to your spiritual/other journey in life?

my personal interpretation of it... is that it can apply to almost anything... but specifically LIFE and DEATH and EMOTIONS...

nobody can experience your birth but you... in the sense of you knowing how you felt to be born... the same with death... you die alone... it is something you must go through by yourself...

to quote Sean Penn in mystic river "the dying part, you do alone"

and as far as emotion... nobody can really feel how you feel over the same event... even if two people lose the same loved one... both may experience the loss differently...

as far as it concerns my spiritual journey... nobody will believe what i believe exactly like i believe it...
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(thaphantum @ Apr 5 2007, 10:55 PM) [snapback]1614990[/snapback]
i heard this quote... i have no idea who said it... mostly because the person i heard it from doesn't remember where they hear it...

"ultimately a man walks his path alone"

what is your interpretation of it and does it hold any significan value to your spiritual/other journey in life?

my personal interpretation of it... is that it can apply to almost anything... but specifically LIFE and DEATH and EMOTIONS...

nobody can experience your birth but you... in the sense of you knowing how you felt to be born... the same with death... you die alone... it is something you must go through by yourself...

to quote Sean Penn in mystic river "the dying part, you do alone"

and as far as emotion... nobody can really feel how you feel over the same event... even if two people lose the same loved one... both may experience the loss differently...

as far as it concerns my spiritual journey... nobody will believe what i believe exactly like i believe it...


Best post I have EVER seen you write...makes sense...well written...gee thaphantum..is this a new you??

love the quotes you just posted....beautiful thumbsup.gif

Although as I glanced over it for a moment..i read about birth and thought---what?? i dont recall being born LMAO...heck I barley recall beckys birth all was blurred LOL...then I RE RAD IT PROPPER LIKE!!! and then I understood...


If Texas see's this......she will be all ---> OMG BM...finially caught on to what a thread meant 1st time round...and didnt go all 7 pages before she realized whats going on ha ha... tongue.gif ehh sometimes I do need to re-read things though ph34r.gif



PS this is me giving best judgement...dont let it go to your head LMAO tongue.gif
EmpressStarXVII
QUOTE(thaphantum @ Apr 5 2007, 05:55 PM) [snapback]1614990[/snapback]
as far as it concerns my spiritual journey... nobody will believe what i believe exactly like i believe it...



That was pretty much my first thought as well. Also, nobody has the same path in life. We're all going different directions for different reasons.
Shadow_Hill
QUOTE(thaphantum @ Apr 5 2007, 10:55 PM) [snapback]1614990[/snapback]
"ultimately a man walks his path alone"

what is your interpretation of it and does it hold any significan value to your spiritual/other journey in life?


Well, when I was growing up my mum used to use quotes like this one all the time. When a few of the girls at school called me names for being a bookworm she would remind me that when I took my exams I would be the one answering the questions... nobody could do it for me. When I was having trouble understanding my own belief system and found religious friends were bullying me rather than informing me, she told me to make my own choices because ultimately I would be the one journeying along the path I'd chosen, nobody else. She always felt that we should get where we're going under our own steam, and not allow others to dictate the course we take, and that in the end, whatever path you decide upon, you're the only one who can walk it and you walk it alone.

I agree with this up to a point. Emotionally, I feel so connected to my husband that I am never alone. Wherever I am, he is with me. We have had this bond since we met. If I died right now, he would be in my heart and in my thoughts, so I would not die alone. When I came very close to death earlier this year, he was with me the whole time... actually I had given it little thought before then, and I was a bit surprised that during the period when I believed I would not survive... when I was drifting in and out of consciousness... I was aware of him even more than before. I don't know if that makes any sense.

Maybe it depends on your definition of alone?
texasgirlheather


We can create an artificial sense of never being alone by this overcrowded, artificially, technologically connected society that we live in. If you want to, the whole time you're awake, you can never be alone. You can even sleep with someone else to pacify the emptiness and fill the void in which you would otherwise be laying there asking yourself questions. There can be a person physically next to you. That fact may distract you from asking yourself questions, it may allow you to procrastinate. At some point, that person is going to disappoint you and you are going to find yourself, confronting yourself, as well as God. We are each going to be responsible for answering to God, alone. Those cool people we partied with, that flattered us and joked with us, will be nowhere in sight when you are having that little tete a tete with your Creator. We can try to hide from our nature, we can stifle our nature, we can lie about our nature, but in the end, all that denial will get us nowhere with God. We can't change our nature. But we're going to have to answer for it. Alone. The bargaining chips that we think will shield us, really won't.

Also, I think it means, that we all have to live with the consequences of our actions.

Also, it means, people come and go in our lives, and we shouldn't place too much faith in people, because we might lose our perspective, and be bitter when we lean on anyone too much.

Also, it means, that although we are surrounded by people, we each are alone because everyone else is walking in their own path, and can walk with you for a while, but it is your path and you are the only one who will always be on it with you.

Well, that's just what I think, anyway.
mako
Hey, y'all check the roof, because I am agreeing with Thaphantum again! Good post man, deep and simple at the same time. yes.gif
texasgirlheather
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Apr 5 2007, 10:04 PM) [snapback]1614998[/snapback]
Best post I have EVER seen you write...makes sense...well written...gee thaphantum..is this a new you??


If Texas see's this......she will be all ---> OMG BM...finially caught on to what a thread meant 1st time round...and didnt go all 7 pages before she realized whats going on ha ha... tongue.gif ehh sometimes I do need to re-read things though ph34r.gif
PS this is me giving best judgement...dont let it go to your head LMAO tongue.gif


*clutches chest, has heart attack at how lovely and civilized Ger and phantum are being to each other*

haha... Did I make you a little paranoid or what? I am picturing you running around UM looking over your shoulder, mumbling to yourself -----> "Where's texas? I know I heard her around here somewhere, she's gonna mess with me", crazy hair sticking up all over the place... lol I'm giggling, it's really funny.

blink.gif I have an overactive imagination. It's true what all my teachers said.



texasgirlheather
Alright, who are you and what have you done with thaphantum? I want answers, now, buddy. haha




Edit to add: Phantum, wub.gif I tease people that I like... you have to know me. wub.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(texasgirlheather @ Apr 5 2007, 11:54 PM) [snapback]1615057[/snapback]
*clutches chest, has heart attack at how lovely and civilized Ger and phantum are being to each other*

haha... Did I make you a little paranoid or what? I am picturing you running around UM looking over your shoulder, mumbling to yourself -----> "Where's texas? I know I heard her around here somewhere, she's gonna mess with me", crazy hair sticking up all over the place... lol I'm giggling, it's really funny.

blink.gif I have an overactive imagination. It's true what all my teachers said.

When I wrote that...I didnt see you on line yet...then as i left the thread ...DUN DUN DUN..there you where and I was like YIKES SHE'S HEEERE OHHH NOOOOO LMAO rofl.gif

But I love your humour laugh.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(texasgirlheather @ Apr 5 2007, 11:59 PM) [snapback]1615064[/snapback]
Alright, who are you and what have you done with thaphantum? I want answers, now, buddy. haha

I KNOW LOL I thought the same...i was re-checking the ID ..just incse we had an imposter lol w00t.gif

Just kidding


I always say..I WILL ONLY AGREE with a post that makes sense to me....

thaphantum...has prolly read this thread again and thoiught WHAT?? OHHH NOOO...I made a bobo...BM is in here with others agreeing with my posts WTF??? this cant be hapening lol someone call 911...superman if you can hear me...help me.... crying.gif I cant handle this ...nooooo


LMAO pulling your leg grin2.gif
brave_new_world
It means that ultimately we are responsible for all of our actions.
texasgirlheather
QUOTE(brave_new_world @ Apr 5 2007, 11:08 PM) [snapback]1615075[/snapback]
It means that ultimately we are responsible for all of our actions.


Hey we agreed on something! tongue.gif Cool.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(texasgirlheather @ Apr 6 2007, 12:15 AM) [snapback]1615083[/snapback]
Hey we agreed on something! tongue.gif Cool.

I KNOW...fancy that huh??


*throws toilt paper at Texas room...wet toilet paper yonk yonk*

HA!! w00t.gif
Lt_Ripley
excellent post phantom


( didn't expect that did ya ? ) lol
IamsSon
Well, I don't agree! I think it's a stupid post!

Just kidding tongue.gif

I think it applies to all of life. No matter how many people you share a particular event with, you will have an individual perspective on it.
texasgirlheather
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Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(IamsSon @ Apr 6 2007, 01:43 AM) [snapback]1615237[/snapback]
Well, I don't agree! I think it's a stupid post!

.

HA HA HA LMAO OMG thats the 1st time you have made me laugh lol...you nutter laugh.gif
texasgirlheather
QUOTE(IamsSon @ Apr 6 2007, 12:43 AM) [snapback]1615237[/snapback]
Well, I don't agree! I think it's a stupid post!


Ya got to be difficult when we're all getting along, don't you? tongue.gif

texasgirlheather
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Apr 6 2007, 12:46 AM) [snapback]1615245[/snapback]
HA HA HA LMAO OMG thats the 1st time you have made me laugh lol...you nutter laugh.gif

That Iams is a sneaky one devil.gif , you have to watch him sometimes. rofl.gif
Beckys_Mom
Well I have news for y'all...ha ha...you wonder whats happened to the REAL thaphantum??? cuz everyone (appart from the difficult IAMS lol)...is agreeing with his post...even me lol...welll

the REAL thaphantum is tied up locked away in my basement har har har...that OP you all read..........is another thaphantum....a CLONE...yes people a clone lol....who says dolly the sheep is the 1st ever clone eh???

And if you want him set free....pay up...Ive set the ransom for - $10000000000000000 thanks...no dodgey cheques either lol

rofl.gif j/k
IamsSon
QUOTE(texasgirlheather @ Apr 5 2007, 07:49 PM) [snapback]1615250[/snapback]
Ya got to be difficult when we're all getting along, don't you? tongue.gif

I just wanted to add some spice to phantum's thread innocent.gif
theoric
walking a path alone depends entirely on one's awareness.

If one is lost in the illusion of being an individual, than one can say one walks alone.

But he speaks from ignorance.

"Happiness is sorrow; sorrow is happiness. There is happiness in difficulty; difficulty in happiness. Even though the ways we feel are different, they are not really different; in essense they are the same. This is the true understanding transmitted from Buddha to us." - Shunryu Suzuki Roshi
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(hyperactive @ Apr 6 2007, 01:55 AM) [snapback]1615272[/snapback]
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"Happiness is sorrow; sorrow is happiness. There is happiness in difficulty; difficulty in happiness. Even though the ways we feel are different, they are not really different; in essense they are the same. This is the true understanding transmitted from Buddha to us." - Shunryu Suzuki Roshi

nice quote...but the same can be said about ohh I dunno.............LOVE
thaphantum
Becky's Mom
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Best post I have EVER seen you write...makes sense...well written...gee thaphantum..is this a new you??


lol... i wouldn't say new... but it's ONE of my many personalities depending on my mood... but thanks...

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love the quotes you just posted....beautiful


thank you...

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PS this is me giving best judgement...dont let it go to your head LMAO

wub.gif

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Mako
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Hey, y'all check the roof, because I am agreeing with Thaphantum again! Good post man, deep and simple at the same time.


yeah... the world must be coming to an end... lol... thanks... thumbsup.gif

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texasgirlheather

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*clutches chest, has heart attack at how lovely and civilized Ger and phantum are being to each other*


i almost had a heart attack myself... tongue.gif

QUOTE
Alright, who are you and what have you done with thaphantum? I want answers, now, buddy. haha


i'm thaphantum... i can shape shift... at least on i can on the internet... i seem to lose the ability in "real" life... wink2.gif
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Lt Ripley

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excellent post phantom


wow... Ripley and Mako both agreeing with me in the same day... w00t.gif

which can only mean one thing... it can only get worse from here on out... hmm.gif

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IamsSon

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Well, I don't agree! I think it's a stupid post!

Just kidding


tongue.gif

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Becky's Mom

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Well I have news for y'all...ha ha...you wonder whats happened to the REAL thaphantum??? cuz everyone (appart from the difficult IAMS lol)...is agreeing with his post...even me lol...welll

the REAL thaphantum is tied up locked away in my basement har har har...that OP you all read..........is another thaphantum....a CLONE...yes people a clone lol....who says dolly the sheep is the 1st ever clone eh???


i thought we were keeping that whole basement/sheep thing a secret... tongue.gif

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And if you want him set free....pay up...Ive set the ransom for - $10000000000000000 thanks...no dodgey cheques either lol

j/k


i'm not dumb... i know RANSOM is a code word for "home video"... lol... thumbsup.gif


texasgirlheather
phantum, you have a strong personality, and the best sense of humor. You fit in well here. wub.gif
theoric
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Apr 5 2007, 05:57 PM) [snapback]1615277[/snapback]
nice quote...but the same can be said about ohh I dunno.............LOVE


on love?

much talk gets given to this word, much talk with little to no understanding.

for to love, one must first love oneself.
and to love oneself, one must first know oneself.

many people THINK they know themselves,
but this is not the same as knowing oneself.

Most are just borrowing definitions of themselves,
like "putting on a suit", and allowing the suit to shape them.
They become the suit, the suit does not become them.
And they tend to fail to see anything other than the suit.

(the aware knows he is never alone, the unaware thinks himself alone while clothed in that suit laugh.gif)
bornagainuhmanduh
Great thread thaphantum. grin2.gif I think that I agree with hyperactive's last post, many of us put on suits that we think fit us and we become them, but all of these suits play off of eachother as well.
I do think that we in our physical bodies are alone, we each have our own vessel to deal with, but maybe we are the ocean too, and in that we are one.
hairston630
QUOTE(thaphantum @ Apr 5 2007, 09:55 PM) [snapback]1614990[/snapback]
i heard this quote... i have no idea who said it... mostly because the person i heard it from doesn't remember where they hear it...

"ultimately a man walks his path alone"

what is your interpretation of it and does it hold any significan value to your spiritual/other journey in life?

my personal interpretation of it... is that it can apply to almost anything... but specifically LIFE and DEATH and EMOTIONS...

nobody can experience your birth but you... in the sense of you knowing how you felt to be born... the same with death... you die alone... it is something you must go through by yourself...

to quote Sean Penn in mystic river "the dying part, you do alone"

and as far as emotion... nobody can really feel how you feel over the same event... even if two people lose the same loved one... both may experience the loss differently...

as far as it concerns my spiritual journey... nobody will believe what i believe exactly like i believe it...


Excellent I must say. Very good post....this one should be stickied at the top yes.gif
JMPD1
We are each responsible for our own actions.

We each, alone, must face the consequences of those actions.

While we are on this planet, we may walk with others, but we each have our own paths to walk; our own hurdles to cross; and our own selves to face.

In the end of our days, though we may be surrounded by friends and family, we each die alone.


Good post thaphantum.
Beckys_Mom
See what happens to a thread like this, that everyone agree's with??? it ends so fast and sinks off the board wtf?? LOL


I had to hunt this down to see what had happened to it LMAO...and it was only made last night for crying out loud...


BM agrees and soon everyone is in doing the same...I feel I made a mark lol


*crosses fingers....wishing that thaphantum makes more like this*

tongue.gif


theoric
Actually BM, I do not agree.

care for a debate? laugh.gif
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE(hyperactive @ Apr 5 2007, 10:25 PM) [snapback]1615402[/snapback]
on love?

much talk gets given to this word, much talk with little to no understanding.

for to love, one must first love oneself.
and to love oneself, one must first know oneself.

many people THINK they know themselves,
but this is not the same as knowing oneself.

Most are just borrowing definitions of themselves,
like "putting on a suit", and allowing the suit to shape them.
They become the suit, the suit does not become them.
And they tend to fail to see anything other than the suit.

(the aware knows he is never alone, the unaware thinks himself alone while clothed in that suit laugh.gif)



nice

I've heard said that there are only 2 emotions - Love and Fear. all others fall inbetween with either love or fear at it's root.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(hyperactive @ Apr 7 2007, 02:49 AM) [snapback]1616802[/snapback]
Actually BM, I do not agree.

care for a debate? laugh.gif

Ohhh liven up the thread a lil.hmmmmmmmmmmmm dare I?? muhaaaawwhaww haw devil.gif


GO FOR IT sweet cakes... wub.gif im in... thumbsup.gif


laugh.gif
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