i figured i'd post this to help out a few people on this board who act like it is soooo hard to find information on people killing in the name of Satan...
oh... and the source i provide... HAVE NOT admitted to making up their numbers to prove a point... so here you go...
Books on Satanic Killings
Satanic Killings by Frank Moorhouse
http://www.amazon.com/Satanic-Killings-Fra...TF8&s=books
Articles About Satanic Murder
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/...?articleID=5329
"The American public seems to dismiss this theory as ridiculous, but Satanic killings didn't seem so ridiculous in the 1980s, when Richard Ramirez -- The Night Stalker -- made California his personal hunting ground. Ramirez, who sat in court with a pentagram etched in his palm and often said "Hail Satan," adds a very real face to the idea of Satanism. Try convincing the families of his victims that Satanic cults don't exist."
source: http://www.thebatt.com/media/paper657/news...www.thebatt.com
This one is crazy...
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/sat13.htm
Argentina
http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2000Mar...#SectionTHREE-4
Columbine and other stuff
http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepres...newsFeb2004.htm
and if you want to google Satanic killings... it gives you about 10,000 results... just click the link and it will take you right to the page without even having to do your own search...
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22satanic+...art=60&sa=N
just thought i would help you guys out since you couldn't seem to find the info you were looking for... feel free to add any other links that you find...
Full Version: Killiing In The Name Of Satan
Columbine is far from a satanic killing. It's more of an emo, teenagers can't dealing with high school killing that parents and other adults desided it would be easier to blame video games instead of actually being parents to talking with their kids and doing what parents should.
Other then that *shrugs* I'll stick with rum.
Other then that *shrugs* I'll stick with rum.
Please don't count Columbine as a satanic killing, thats simply denying the truth. It was just a couple of angry kids who had enough of the bullying they recieved at school, it's not related to religion at all.
QUOTE(Cradle of Fish @ Apr 6 2007, 01:49 PM) [snapback]1616400[/snapback]
Please don't count Columbine as a satanic killing, thats simply denying the truth. It was just a couple of angry kids who had enough of the bullying they recieved at school, it's not related to religion at all.
i just provided the link... it contains some good information whether you choose to believe it or not....
The website you provided for Columbine is...laughable at best.
QUOTE(Dr. Strangelove @ Apr 6 2007, 03:09 PM) [snapback]1616505[/snapback]
The website you provided for Columbine is...laughable at best.
that's funny cause you thought the one in which the guy ADMITTEDLY lied was credible...
so why don't you share that opinion about that one? let me guess... cause it's anti God?
Well.. aside overly fanatical groups who would rather blame god/satan/video games/prancing pink ponies for the Columbine shootings instead of what it was in reality...
It's a sad case of teenagers who were fed up with the bullying in school, who's parents would rather not be parents and actually take an intrest in their childrens well being and then dope them up on drugs. Because hey, your teenager's having issues in school, being depressed, thinking of violence against people who torment them in school, oh yeah, I can see where Satan plays into that. Let's just dope them up and call it good, mmkay?
Columbine was a wake up call that was ignored by all to occuring theme in this country. The blame game. It's MUCH easier to blame something else for your own problems, then face then and take responcibility for your life and action. It's so much better to take religion and mutate it to fit your inability to except life and use it's evil side to blame someone for killing someone else. It's much easier to take your kid to a doctor to put them on prozac and riddlin then set them infront of a TV then actually take a apart in your child's life.
If I was to say there was anything "satanic" about what happened in that school, it is how easily people would rather believe that some evil demi angel god thing or whatever is to blame then the people that are really to blame. And that's everyone who ignored the warning signs from those kids and couldn't take the bloody time to work things out with them. It's their parents who couldn't even bother with them, then tried to make money by sueing video game companies "for making their kids violent.". Guess what, buttercup, it's your fault for letting them play video games like that, and your fault for not doing what a parent should.
It's a sad case of teenagers who were fed up with the bullying in school, who's parents would rather not be parents and actually take an intrest in their childrens well being and then dope them up on drugs. Because hey, your teenager's having issues in school, being depressed, thinking of violence against people who torment them in school, oh yeah, I can see where Satan plays into that. Let's just dope them up and call it good, mmkay?
Columbine was a wake up call that was ignored by all to occuring theme in this country. The blame game. It's MUCH easier to blame something else for your own problems, then face then and take responcibility for your life and action. It's so much better to take religion and mutate it to fit your inability to except life and use it's evil side to blame someone for killing someone else. It's much easier to take your kid to a doctor to put them on prozac and riddlin then set them infront of a TV then actually take a apart in your child's life.
If I was to say there was anything "satanic" about what happened in that school, it is how easily people would rather believe that some evil demi angel god thing or whatever is to blame then the people that are really to blame. And that's everyone who ignored the warning signs from those kids and couldn't take the bloody time to work things out with them. It's their parents who couldn't even bother with them, then tried to make money by sueing video game companies "for making their kids violent.". Guess what, buttercup, it's your fault for letting them play video games like that, and your fault for not doing what a parent should.
QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Apr 6 2007, 03:38 PM) [snapback]1616559[/snapback]
Well.. aside overly fanatical groups who would rather blame god/satan/video games/prancing pink ponies for the Columbine shootings instead of what it was in reality...
It's a sad case of teenagers who were fed up with the bullying in school, who's parents would rather not be parents and actually take an intrest in their childrens well being and then dope them up on drugs. Because hey, your teenager's having issues in school, being depressed, thinking of violence against people who torment them in school, oh yeah, I can see where Satan plays into that. Let's just dope them up and call it good, mmkay?
Columbine was a wake up call that was ignored by all to occuring theme in this country. The blame game. It's MUCH easier to blame something else for your own problems, then face then and take responcibility for your life and action. It's so much better to take religion and mutate it to fit your inability to except life and use it's evil side to blame someone for killing someone else. It's much easier to take your kid to a doctor to put them on prozac and riddlin then set them infront of a TV then actually take a apart in your child's life.
If I was to say there was anything "satanic" about what happened in that school, it is how easily people would rather believe that some evil demi angel god thing or whatever is to blame then the people that are really to blame. And that's everyone who ignored the warning signs from those kids and couldn't take the bloody time to work things out with them. It's their parents who couldn't even bother with them, then tried to make money by sueing video game companies "for making their kids violent.". Guess what, buttercup, it's your fault for letting them play video games like that, and your fault for not doing what a parent should.
It's a sad case of teenagers who were fed up with the bullying in school, who's parents would rather not be parents and actually take an intrest in their childrens well being and then dope them up on drugs. Because hey, your teenager's having issues in school, being depressed, thinking of violence against people who torment them in school, oh yeah, I can see where Satan plays into that. Let's just dope them up and call it good, mmkay?
Columbine was a wake up call that was ignored by all to occuring theme in this country. The blame game. It's MUCH easier to blame something else for your own problems, then face then and take responcibility for your life and action. It's so much better to take religion and mutate it to fit your inability to except life and use it's evil side to blame someone for killing someone else. It's much easier to take your kid to a doctor to put them on prozac and riddlin then set them infront of a TV then actually take a apart in your child's life.
If I was to say there was anything "satanic" about what happened in that school, it is how easily people would rather believe that some evil demi angel god thing or whatever is to blame then the people that are really to blame. And that's everyone who ignored the warning signs from those kids and couldn't take the bloody time to work things out with them. It's their parents who couldn't even bother with them, then tried to make money by sueing video game companies "for making their kids violent.". Guess what, buttercup, it's your fault for letting them play video games like that, and your fault for not doing what a parent should.
you would still be part of that overly fanatical group that wants to blame it on everything else...
Harris directly asked Bernal or Schnurr (debate on which one specifically) if she "believed in God?" and whichever was asked responded with a "yes" and was to be shot point blank range-- These boys did make an apparent point of target on the "christians" and others groups as well (even those wearing white hats (jocks). Harris was obsessed with drawing demons or monsters, and satanic symbols....
These guys were far from bullied. Klebold was depressed, not bullied- Harris wasn't bullied, but a bully him damn self.
Serial killers kill in the name of Satan such as Ramirez & Son of Sam for example. There is a slew of them.
These guys were far from bullied. Klebold was depressed, not bullied- Harris wasn't bullied, but a bully him damn self.
Serial killers kill in the name of Satan such as Ramirez & Son of Sam for example. There is a slew of them.
QUOTE(thaphantum @ Apr 6 2007, 09:28 PM) [snapback]1616366[/snapback]
i figured i'd post this to help out a few people on this board who act like it is soooo hard to find information on people killing in the name of Satan...
oh... and the source i provide... HAVE NOT admitted to making up their numbers to prove a point... so here you go...
Books on Satanic Killings
Satanic Killings by Frank Moorhouse
http://www.amazon.com/Satanic-Killings-Fra...TF8&s=books
Articles About Satanic Murder
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/...?articleID=5329
"The American public seems to dismiss this theory as ridiculous, but Satanic killings didn't seem so ridiculous in the 1980s, when Richard Ramirez -- The Night Stalker -- made California his personal hunting ground. Ramirez, who sat in court with a pentagram etched in his palm and often said "Hail Satan," adds a very real face to the idea of Satanism. Try convincing the families of his victims that Satanic cults don't exist."
source: http://www.thebatt.com/media/paper657/news...www.thebatt.com
This one is crazy...
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/sat13.htm
Argentina
http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2000Mar...#SectionTHREE-4
Columbine and other stuff
http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepres...newsFeb2004.htm
and if you want to google Satanic killings... it gives you about 10,000 results... just click the link and it will take you right to the page without even having to do your own search...
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22satanic+...art=60&sa=N
just thought i would help you guys out since you couldn't seem to find the info you were looking for... feel free to add any other links that you find...
oh... and the source i provide... HAVE NOT admitted to making up their numbers to prove a point... so here you go...
Books on Satanic Killings
Satanic Killings by Frank Moorhouse
http://www.amazon.com/Satanic-Killings-Fra...TF8&s=books
Articles About Satanic Murder
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/...?articleID=5329
"The American public seems to dismiss this theory as ridiculous, but Satanic killings didn't seem so ridiculous in the 1980s, when Richard Ramirez -- The Night Stalker -- made California his personal hunting ground. Ramirez, who sat in court with a pentagram etched in his palm and often said "Hail Satan," adds a very real face to the idea of Satanism. Try convincing the families of his victims that Satanic cults don't exist."
source: http://www.thebatt.com/media/paper657/news...www.thebatt.com
This one is crazy...
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/sat13.htm
Argentina
http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2000Mar...#SectionTHREE-4
Columbine and other stuff
http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepres...newsFeb2004.htm
and if you want to google Satanic killings... it gives you about 10,000 results... just click the link and it will take you right to the page without even having to do your own search...
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22satanic+...art=60&sa=N
just thought i would help you guys out since you couldn't seem to find the info you were looking for... feel free to add any other links that you find...
Since there are no church of Satan where I come from...I will get down to reality....
Goes a lil like this...........
MAN has killed tortured and created wars...for as long as man has been around.....
Does MAN need to belong to a faith to do this???
HELL NOOOOOO...............for every killer you read about or hear about in the news..........its not all done in the name of God or Satan...its done out of pure evil that is held with in themselves
MAN is the most evil and dangerous of all that is living here on earth
thats FACT..and not a belief lol....pure fact
Columbine in this list is beneath contempt. But then again it's not a matter of credibility, it's a matter of taking pot shots, in my OPINION. 
QUOTE(thaphantum @ Apr 6 2007, 10:39 PM) [snapback]1616565[/snapback]
you would still be part of that overly fanatical group that wants to blame it on everything else...
Would I? I'm saying that the parents should have been parents and not dope their kids up and let them play the games that they did if they were so worried about them. I'm saying take responcibilities for your own actions or lack of. Be a propper parent and don't rely on drugs to control your kids.
Satan didn't tell them to. DOOM didn't tell them to. They did it on their own accord, and everyone ignored the warning signs.
And here you are, blameing Satan.
*shakes her head*
Satan telling people to kill is a JOKE IMO.....it goes to show you how easy that point I made saying religious people need a satan...to point the finger at this character..for all the evil in the world LOL
And to think I was once pounced on for saying religion needs satan....this confirms it all the more
I dont need Satan...i dont have time for a fictional made up being that dont exist
And to think I was once pounced on for saying religion needs satan....this confirms it all the more
I dont need Satan...i dont have time for a fictional made up being that dont exist
Well just think, if gods first born angel son had not been let to live, after the rebellion, there's be no being to blame for the election of Republicans to office. 
QUOTE(GoddessWhispers @ Apr 7 2007, 01:41 AM) [snapback]1616718[/snapback]
Well just think, if gods first born angel son had not been let to live, after the rebellion, there's be no being to blame for the election of Republicans to office.
If I where american and knew about their politics..I would most likely laugh at that LOL...from that I can see a joke aimed at republicans LOL.....where I come from..if you are a republican you are a follower of the IRA terroist groups and so forth...so NOT the same lol
All I can say is thank the maker that the christians, the jews, and the muslims have never killed in the name of their gods, like those nasty satanists...........
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Here ya go BM. Republican Party ! Of course the last 7 years hurt! You're getting Fu**ed by an Elephant!
And JMPD all I have to say to you mister is, I should have thought to add that red part, to my Republican funny!
And JMPD all I have to say to you mister is, I should have thought to add that red part, to my Republican funny!
From "The A To Z Encyclopedia of Serial Killers" (Harold Schechter and David Everitt) 1996 ISBN: 0-671-53791-1
QUOTE
If you believe everything you hear on Geraldo,you might well think that our country is overrun with satanic cultists who regularly indulge in human sacrifice and every other manner of unspeakable perversion.In fact,beyond the highly unreliable testimony of various religious nuts and sexual hysterics,there is little or no evidence that such devil-worshipping covens actually exist,at least not in the United States of America.
On the other hand,since serial killers are inexorably drawn to all that is dark and depraved,they often enjoy embellishing their crimes - and themselves - with a bit of satanic symbolism.Wayne Nance,a Montana truck driver who killed five people in the mid-1980's,used a white-hot coat hanger to brand the number of the Beast - "666" - onto his own flesh.Similarly,John Kogut - a young,Long Island landscaperwho led a gang that raped and murdered three young women - burned an inverted cross into his forearm.
Other self-styled devil devotees like to leave satanic markings at the crime scene.After breaking into the suburban home of an eighty-four-year-old Los Angeles woman and beating her to death,Richard the "Night Stalker" Ramirez drew pentagrams on her skin,then painted a few more on the walls before fleeing.At his trial,he kept the press corps entertained by shouting salutations to Satan and flashing a pentagram that he had inscribed on his palm."You don't understand," he sneered at the judge."You are not expected to.I am beyond good and evil.Legions of the night! Night breed!"
One of the most notorious of all Lucifer-related cases was the savage 1984 mutilation-slaying of Long Island teenager Gary Lauwers by the devil-besotted druggie,Rickie Kasso."Say you love Satan!" Kasso commanded over and over again,while slashing Lauwers to poeces with a pocketknife.Horrific as it was,however,the murder was not - as originally reported - a ritualistic sacrifice but rather a vicious act of revenge over some bags of stolen angel dust.
The only documented case of satanic serial murder occurred in Metamoros,Mexico,where a devil-worshipping drug gang slaughtered fifteen sacrificial victims in a demonic rite designed to insure supernatural protection (see Cults).
On the other hand,since serial killers are inexorably drawn to all that is dark and depraved,they often enjoy embellishing their crimes - and themselves - with a bit of satanic symbolism.Wayne Nance,a Montana truck driver who killed five people in the mid-1980's,used a white-hot coat hanger to brand the number of the Beast - "666" - onto his own flesh.Similarly,John Kogut - a young,Long Island landscaperwho led a gang that raped and murdered three young women - burned an inverted cross into his forearm.
Other self-styled devil devotees like to leave satanic markings at the crime scene.After breaking into the suburban home of an eighty-four-year-old Los Angeles woman and beating her to death,Richard the "Night Stalker" Ramirez drew pentagrams on her skin,then painted a few more on the walls before fleeing.At his trial,he kept the press corps entertained by shouting salutations to Satan and flashing a pentagram that he had inscribed on his palm."You don't understand," he sneered at the judge."You are not expected to.I am beyond good and evil.Legions of the night! Night breed!"
One of the most notorious of all Lucifer-related cases was the savage 1984 mutilation-slaying of Long Island teenager Gary Lauwers by the devil-besotted druggie,Rickie Kasso."Say you love Satan!" Kasso commanded over and over again,while slashing Lauwers to poeces with a pocketknife.Horrific as it was,however,the murder was not - as originally reported - a ritualistic sacrifice but rather a vicious act of revenge over some bags of stolen angel dust.
The only documented case of satanic serial murder occurred in Metamoros,Mexico,where a devil-worshipping drug gang slaughtered fifteen sacrificial victims in a demonic rite designed to insure supernatural protection (see Cults).
So,apparently,just because one flashes a "satanic sign",doesn't really imply that they really are a Satanist.In many cases,it is just used by a killer for the "shock value",as in the case of Ramirez.If I remember correctly,Charles Manson & "Family" did similar things.It's done because it get's people's attention,which is something that some of these killers want.They want to be notorious,they want people to talk about them.
As for the Columbine incident,I remember hearing that the kids were actually well liked.What made them snap is still open for conjecture,although I wouldn't doubt that there were actually several reasons intertwined that were the cause.But to claim that they were Satanists is a bit off the wall.They were just filled with indescriminate hate.
A good article on the whole Columbine Massacre with rumors debunked:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/...bine/print.html
QUOTE(GoddessWhispers @ Apr 7 2007, 04:50 AM) [snapback]1616954[/snapback]
Here ya go BM. Republican Party ! Of course the last 7 years hurt! You're getting Fu**ed by an Elephant!
And JMPD all I have to say to you mister is, I should have thought to add that red part, to my Republican funny!
And JMPD all I have to say to you mister is, I should have thought to add that red part, to my Republican funny!
In short I just imagined that The Republicians belived in working for a living and not sponging off the goverment...get out and get a job motto....
A motto that I belive in too LOL ..so ummm if I where an american...guess I too would be a republican
but only for that lil reasonQUOTE(Wolf MacCanine @ Apr 6 2007, 11:48 PM) [snapback]1617114[/snapback]
From "The A To Z Encyclopedia of Serial Killers" (Harold Schechter and David Everitt) 1996 ISBN: 0-671-53791-1
So,apparently,just because one flashes a "satanic sign",doesn't really imply that they really are a Satanist.In many cases,it is just used by a killer for the "shock value",as in the case of Ramirez.If I remember correctly,Charles Manson & "Family" did similar things.It's done because it get's people's attention,which is something that some of these killers want.They want to be notorious,they want people to talk about them.
As for the Columbine incident,I remember hearing that the kids were actually well liked.What made them snap is still open for conjecture,although I wouldn't doubt that there were actually several reasons intertwined that were the cause.But to claim that they were Satanists is a bit off the wall.They were just filled with indescriminate hate.
A good article on the whole Columbine Massacre with rumors debunked:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/...bine/print.html
So,apparently,just because one flashes a "satanic sign",doesn't really imply that they really are a Satanist.In many cases,it is just used by a killer for the "shock value",as in the case of Ramirez.If I remember correctly,Charles Manson & "Family" did similar things.It's done because it get's people's attention,which is something that some of these killers want.They want to be notorious,they want people to talk about them.
As for the Columbine incident,I remember hearing that the kids were actually well liked.What made them snap is still open for conjecture,although I wouldn't doubt that there were actually several reasons intertwined that were the cause.But to claim that they were Satanists is a bit off the wall.They were just filled with indescriminate hate.
A good article on the whole Columbine Massacre with rumors debunked:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/...bine/print.html
the thing is... we are talking about killing in the name of satan... not being a satanist...
as we said in the Christian thread... just because someone kills in the name of Christ doesn't make them Christian...
my question is this... how come everyone is so concerened with Columbine? i don't see you trying to disprove any of the other links i provided....
QUOTE(thaphantum @ Apr 7 2007, 12:01 PM) [snapback]1617461[/snapback]
i don't see you trying to disprove any of the other links i provided....
We'll see what happens when I have a little more free time on my paws.
For now,try taking a look at these links (one of your links was from this site):
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/sat07.htm
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/sat30.htm
And of course,the main page itself which contains a whole lot of good links:
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/satan.htm
...
You really should read more of some of the sites you're pulling stuff from.
QUOTE(Wolf MacCanine @ Apr 7 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]1617581[/snapback]
We'll see what happens when I have a little more free time on my paws.
For now,try taking a look at these links (one of your links was from this site):
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/sat07.htm
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/sat30.htm
And of course,the main page itself which contains a whole lot of good links:
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/satan.htm
...
You really should read more of some of the sites you're pulling stuff from.
For now,try taking a look at these links (one of your links was from this site):
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/sat07.htm
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/sat30.htm
And of course,the main page itself which contains a whole lot of good links:
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/satan.htm
...
You really should read more of some of the sites you're pulling stuff from.
why should i read more of the sites? unlike some of the people here... all my sources aren't biased...
QUOTE(thaphantum @ Apr 7 2007, 02:30 PM) [snapback]1617651[/snapback]
why should i read more of the sites? unlike some of the people here... all my sources aren't biased...
You'd be surprised.
Truthfully,it's like I've mentioned to a few people before,not only on UM...but on other forums as well,that one should always attempt to check the credibility of their sources before posting.See,there will almost always be sites or information which will be disregarded by at least one person...usually with a claim of "That's a biased site!" being involved.In fact,almost every site that holds information pertinent to a discussion will be biased in some way.But,what we can do is go for the sites that show the least bias,or that shows that the author of the work has a non-biased background...or is someone who took the time to truly research a subject and has the appropriate background for the subject at hand.
As for information from sites such as Wikipedia,one can scroll down to the bottom of a page and see if there is an abundance of sources for the article...and even check the credibility of those sources.Look up the names of authors of books to see what types of books they have written.If they have the appropriate background for their subject matter,then things should be ok.If not,then disregard them as you wish.
But,when one tosses out a link without really delving into it,I'm more than likely going to use it to prove a point.
...
Back on topic again...
The first of the links you posted is for a book by a writer going under a pseudonym.Have you read the book? If so,could you please give more information of the conclusions this writer came to after their research.If you haven't read it...then why post about it if you don't know what the conclusions are?
As for the link regarding "Columbine and other stuff"...it looks more like a conspiracy website.Take a look at some of the articles they have.Too,that article was written before all of the real information about the incident and culprits came out.
I'll be looking into the other links later.
But,the main reason that I posted that section from a book was because you had posted a small quote from a link regarding Richard Ramirez.If you really want to learn about this madman,check out his whole story on:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers...z/terror_1.html
That site has a lot of great information regarding serial killers,murderers,rapists..etc.
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