A lot of respectable scientists and writers believed that Earth is hollow inside
Rumors about underground towns appeared for the first time in 1946. The person to launch the rumors was Richard Shaver – writer, journalist and scientist. His incredible story about contacts with aliens living under the ground was published in Amazing Stories Magazine. Shaver said that he had spent several weeks living under the ground with demon-looking aliens, whose descriptions can be found in ancient legends and fairytales. Almost every nation has a tale of an ancient race, who settled in planet Earth long before humans appeared on it. Those underground creatures are described as inconceivably talented, brilliant and culturally educated – they do not want to have anything in common with humans.
One could refer to the story from the American writer as a fruit of his vivid imagination. However, hundreds of readers responded to the publication. They wrote that they had visited underground cities, talked to their residents and saw unimaginable technical inventions, which guaranteed a comfortable existence in the very depth of the planet. Furthermore, the technologies of underground aliens give them an opportunity to control the minds of humans.
The unbelievable story exerted an immense influence on scientists and gave an incentive to the study of paranormal activities.
English astronomer of the 17th century, Edmund Halley, writers Jules Verne, Edgar Allan Poe and some others wrote in their works that planet Earth is a hollow sphere. American authorities were preparing a special scientific mission in 18-19 centuries to explore the Earth's hollow depth.
The scientists of the Third Reich were very interested in the mysterious underground world too. A special top secret expedition was organized in 1942. German scientists also hoped to install new radar systems under the ground and draw closer to global reign. Unfortunately, the outcome of the intrigue is not known, but the hypothesis of the underground civilization developed further on during the second half of the 20th century.
In 1963, two American coal miners, David Fellin and Henry Throne, found a large door in a tunnel, behind which they discovered a marble stairway. In England, miners can hear the sounds of mechanical devices under the ground, as they dig a tunnel. An English miner said that they had also found a stairway to an underground well. The sound of machines became more distinct, and the workers fled in fear. When they returned to the tunnel, there were no stairs and no entrance to the well.
An American satellite took very interesting photographs at the end of the 1970s. The photographs were published in many Western scientific magazines: the pictures depicted a dark, regularly shaped spot on the North Pole. The photographs were not defective: similar pictures depicting the same dark spot on the pole were taken several years later.
Anthropologist James McKenna explored an ill-famed cave in the State of Idaho. McKenna and other members of the expedition could hear screams and moans, as they were moving hundreds meters deep into the cave. The researchers found human skeletons soon, but they had to stop their quest: the smell of brimstone was unbearable.
Geologists do not share the theory of the Earth's huge cavity, although they do not exclude a possibility of numerous large hollow spaces in planet's depths. Human life is hardly possible in those cavities: the temperature is too high and there is very little oxygen there. Some researchers believe that the underground civilization might be of an extraterrestrial origin. Aliens were probably tired of people's eternal wars and atrocities, and moved under the ground, from where they comfortably observed the development of the mankind. What if UFOs appear in the sky from under the ground, not from other galaxies? However, if planet Earth is hollow inside, someone should have found the gateway to the underground world long ago. A group of American scientists believes that underground cities exist on Earth in the fourth dimension. When the Earth's electromagnetic field changes from time to time, entrances to the tunnels open, and accidental “visitors” may see the underground cities and their inhabitants.
One of the theories says that many mysterious constructions, like the English Stonehendge for example, were built to designate entrances to underground cities. If there is a reasonable race living under the ground, it would be an explanation to a lot of inexplicable phenomena.
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Very little is reliably known about Shaver's early life. He claimed to have worked at an automobile factory, where, in 1932, odd things began to occur. As Bruce Lanier Write notes, Shaver "began to notice that one of the welding guns on his job site, 'by some freak of its coil's field atunements,' was allowing him to read the thoughts of the men working around him. More frighteningly, he then picked up the telepathic record of a torture session conducted by malign entities in caverns deep within the earth." (According to Bakun, Shaver offered inconsistent accounts of how he first learned of the hidden cavern world, but that the assembly line story was the "most common version." (Bakun, 116) Shaver said he then quit his job, and became a hobo for a period.
Bakun writes that "Shaver was hospitalized briefly for psychiatric problems in 1934, but there does not appear to have been a clear diagnosis." (Bakun, 115) Bakun notes that afterwards, Shaver's whereabouts and actions cannot be reliably traced until the early 1940s.
In 1943, Shaver wrote a letter to Amazing. He claimed to have uncovered an ancient language he called "Mantong," a sort of Proto-World language which was the source of all Earthly language. In Mantong, each sound had a hidden meaning, and by applying this formula to any word in any language, one could decode a secret meaning to any word, name or phrase. Palmer applied the Mantong formula to several words, and said he realized Shaver was on to something.
Palmer wrote to Shaver, asking how he had learned of Mantong. Shaver responded with a 10,000 word document entitled "A Warning to Future Man." Shaver wrote of tremendously advanced pre-historic races who had built cavern cities inside Earth before abandoning Earth for another planet due to damaging radiation from the sun. Those ancients also abandoned some of their own offspring here, a minority of whom remained noble and human "Teros", while most degenerated over time into a population of mentally impaired sadists known as Dero--short for "detrimental robots." Shaver's "robots" were not mechanical constructs, but were robot-like due to their savage behavior.
These Dero still lived in the cave cities, according to Shaver, kidnapping surface-dwelling people by the thousands for meat or torture, and using the fantastic "ray" machines that the great ancient races left behind to project tormenting thoughts and voices into our minds. Dero could be blamed for nearly all misfortunes, from minor "accidental" injuries or illnesses to airplane crashes and catastrophic natural disasters. Women especially were singled out for brutal treatment, including rape, and Dash notes that "Sado-masochism was one of the prominent themes of Shaver's writings." (Dash, 229) Though generally confined to their caves, Shaver claimed that the Deros sometimes traveled by spaceships or rockets, and had dealings with equally evil extraterrestrial beings. Shaver claimed first-hand knowledge of the Dero and their caves, insisting he had been their prisoner for several years.
Palmer edited and rewrote the manuscript, increasing the total word count to a novella length 31,000. Palmer insisted that he did nothing to alter the core elements of Shaver's story, but that he only added an exciting plot line so the story would not read "like a dull recitation." (Bakun, 116) retitled "I Remember Lemuria!"; it was published in March, 1945 issue of Amazing. The issue sold out, and generated quite a response: between 1945 and 1949, letters poured in attesting to the truth of Shaver's claims (tens of thousands of letters, according to Palmer). The correspondents, too, had heard strange voices or encountered denizens of the hollow Earth. One of the letters to Amazing was from a woman who claimed to have gone into a deep subbasement of a Paris, France building via a secret elevator. After months of rape and other torture, the woman was freed by a group of Teros. (Dash, 230) Another letter claiming involvement with Deros came from Fred Crisman, later to gain notoriety for his role in the Maury Island Incident and the John F. Kennedy Assassination. "Shaver Mystery Club" chapters sprang up in several cities. The controversy gained some notice in the mainstream press at the time, including a mention in a 1951 issue of Life magazine.
Palmer claimed that Amazing saw huge boosts in circulation because of the Shaver Mystery, and the magazine emphasized the Shaver Mystery for several years. Bakun notes that, by any measure, the Shaver Mystery was successful in increasing sales of Amazing. There was disagreement as to the precise increase in circulation (with Shaver being accused of exaggerating the total), but Bakun notes that reliable sources reflect an increase in monthly circulation from about 135,000 to 185,000. (Bakun, 116)
Shaver's rambling manuscripts were rewritten by Palmer, both to make them more readable, and to remove or downplay most of the explicit sexual content. From 1945 to 1948, Bakun notes that about 75% of the issues of Amazing featured Shaver Mystery content--sometimes to the near-exclusion of any other topic. Historian Mike Dash declares that "Shaver's tales were amongst the wildest ever spun, even in the pages of the pulp science fiction magazines of the period." (Dash, 229)
Many in the community of science fiction fans felt compelled to publicly condemn the Shaver Mystery as "the Shaver Hoax." In fact, Palmer printed a number of critical or skeptical letters sent to Amazing, and he and other contributors occasionally rebutted or replied to such letters in print. As Bruce Lanier Wright notes, "The young Harlan Ellison, later a famously abrasive writer, allegedly badgered [Palmer] into admitting that the Shaver Mystery was a 'publicity grabber'; when the story came out, Palmer angrily responded that this was hardly the same thing as calling it a hoax." Dash writes,"critics of the 'Shaver Mystery' were quick to point out that its author was suffering from several of the classic symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia, and that many of the letters pouring into Amazing recounting personal experiences that backed up the author's stories patently came from the sorts of people who would otherwise spend their time claiming that they were being persecuted by invisible voices or their neighbor's dog." (Dash, 229)
Bakun writes that "Shaver was hospitalized briefly for psychiatric problems in 1934, but there does not appear to have been a clear diagnosis." (Bakun, 115) Bakun notes that afterwards, Shaver's whereabouts and actions cannot be reliably traced until the early 1940s.
In 1943, Shaver wrote a letter to Amazing. He claimed to have uncovered an ancient language he called "Mantong," a sort of Proto-World language which was the source of all Earthly language. In Mantong, each sound had a hidden meaning, and by applying this formula to any word in any language, one could decode a secret meaning to any word, name or phrase. Palmer applied the Mantong formula to several words, and said he realized Shaver was on to something.
Palmer wrote to Shaver, asking how he had learned of Mantong. Shaver responded with a 10,000 word document entitled "A Warning to Future Man." Shaver wrote of tremendously advanced pre-historic races who had built cavern cities inside Earth before abandoning Earth for another planet due to damaging radiation from the sun. Those ancients also abandoned some of their own offspring here, a minority of whom remained noble and human "Teros", while most degenerated over time into a population of mentally impaired sadists known as Dero--short for "detrimental robots." Shaver's "robots" were not mechanical constructs, but were robot-like due to their savage behavior.
These Dero still lived in the cave cities, according to Shaver, kidnapping surface-dwelling people by the thousands for meat or torture, and using the fantastic "ray" machines that the great ancient races left behind to project tormenting thoughts and voices into our minds. Dero could be blamed for nearly all misfortunes, from minor "accidental" injuries or illnesses to airplane crashes and catastrophic natural disasters. Women especially were singled out for brutal treatment, including rape, and Dash notes that "Sado-masochism was one of the prominent themes of Shaver's writings." (Dash, 229) Though generally confined to their caves, Shaver claimed that the Deros sometimes traveled by spaceships or rockets, and had dealings with equally evil extraterrestrial beings. Shaver claimed first-hand knowledge of the Dero and their caves, insisting he had been their prisoner for several years.
Palmer edited and rewrote the manuscript, increasing the total word count to a novella length 31,000. Palmer insisted that he did nothing to alter the core elements of Shaver's story, but that he only added an exciting plot line so the story would not read "like a dull recitation." (Bakun, 116) retitled "I Remember Lemuria!"; it was published in March, 1945 issue of Amazing. The issue sold out, and generated quite a response: between 1945 and 1949, letters poured in attesting to the truth of Shaver's claims (tens of thousands of letters, according to Palmer). The correspondents, too, had heard strange voices or encountered denizens of the hollow Earth. One of the letters to Amazing was from a woman who claimed to have gone into a deep subbasement of a Paris, France building via a secret elevator. After months of rape and other torture, the woman was freed by a group of Teros. (Dash, 230) Another letter claiming involvement with Deros came from Fred Crisman, later to gain notoriety for his role in the Maury Island Incident and the John F. Kennedy Assassination. "Shaver Mystery Club" chapters sprang up in several cities. The controversy gained some notice in the mainstream press at the time, including a mention in a 1951 issue of Life magazine.
Palmer claimed that Amazing saw huge boosts in circulation because of the Shaver Mystery, and the magazine emphasized the Shaver Mystery for several years. Bakun notes that, by any measure, the Shaver Mystery was successful in increasing sales of Amazing. There was disagreement as to the precise increase in circulation (with Shaver being accused of exaggerating the total), but Bakun notes that reliable sources reflect an increase in monthly circulation from about 135,000 to 185,000. (Bakun, 116)
Shaver's rambling manuscripts were rewritten by Palmer, both to make them more readable, and to remove or downplay most of the explicit sexual content. From 1945 to 1948, Bakun notes that about 75% of the issues of Amazing featured Shaver Mystery content--sometimes to the near-exclusion of any other topic. Historian Mike Dash declares that "Shaver's tales were amongst the wildest ever spun, even in the pages of the pulp science fiction magazines of the period." (Dash, 229)
Many in the community of science fiction fans felt compelled to publicly condemn the Shaver Mystery as "the Shaver Hoax." In fact, Palmer printed a number of critical or skeptical letters sent to Amazing, and he and other contributors occasionally rebutted or replied to such letters in print. As Bruce Lanier Wright notes, "The young Harlan Ellison, later a famously abrasive writer, allegedly badgered [Palmer] into admitting that the Shaver Mystery was a 'publicity grabber'; when the story came out, Palmer angrily responded that this was hardly the same thing as calling it a hoax." Dash writes,"critics of the 'Shaver Mystery' were quick to point out that its author was suffering from several of the classic symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia, and that many of the letters pouring into Amazing recounting personal experiences that backed up the author's stories patently came from the sorts of people who would otherwise spend their time claiming that they were being persecuted by invisible voices or their neighbor's dog." (Dash, 229)
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"One of the theories says that many mysterious constructions, like the English Stonehendge for example, were built to designate entrances to underground cities. If there is a reasonable race living under the ground, it would be an explanation to a lot of inexplicable phenomena."
...I don't understand. Are you suggesting the world is hollow? If you are, how do you explain... well, the Earth not crashing in on itself?
As for the rest of it, you seem to be cherry-picking the least laughable hollow Earth silliness -- mysterious pictures conveniently not included.
--Jaylemurph
QUOTE(jaylemurph @ Apr 8 2007, 11:02 AM) [snapback]1618829[/snapback]
how do you explain... well, the Earth not crashing in on itself?
As for the rest of it, you seem to be cherry-picking the least laughable hollow Earth silliness -- mysterious pictures conveniently not included.
--Jaylemurph
As for the rest of it, you seem to be cherry-picking the least laughable hollow Earth silliness -- mysterious pictures conveniently not included.
--Jaylemurph
Obviously it doesnt crash in on itself by the use of magic...do I have to explain everything...and photos taken of middle earth will not show up because of...hmmm...oh screw it less say magic again...
I used to have a picture of my dog sitting on the Throne of the Heavens in all beneficence and mercy, concretely proving his dominion over the Earth.
I lost it, though. But he still rules over all.
--Jaylemurph
I lost it, though. But he still rules over all.
--Jaylemurph
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 8 2007, 12:08 PM) [snapback]1618996[/snapback]
Obviously it doesnt crash in on itself by the use of magic...do I have to explain everything...and photos taken of middle earth will not show up because of...hmmm...oh screw it less say magic again...
LMAO!!!!!
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I used to have a picture of my dog sitting on the Throne of the Heavens in all beneficence and mercy, concretely proving his dominion over the Earth.
I lost it, though. But he still rules over all.
--Jaylemurph
I lost it, though. But he still rules over all.
--Jaylemurph
You guys are seriously too funny!
Oh jeez. There's a new "earth is hollow" post.
I'm not going to pick apart the OP, its too easy. Its a compilation of every stupidly wacky post from the last 6 months.
Use the search function, cause I'm not posting up the same post AGAIN.
Search: New Scientist hollow earth.
There are lots of reasons why the earth can't be hollow.
I'm not going to pick apart the OP, its too easy. Its a compilation of every stupidly wacky post from the last 6 months.
Use the search function, cause I'm not posting up the same post AGAIN.
Search: New Scientist hollow earth.
There are lots of reasons why the earth can't be hollow.
QUOTE(jaylemurph @ Apr 8 2007, 10:35 PM) [snapback]1619196[/snapback]
I used to have a picture of my dog sitting on the Throne of the Heavens in all beneficence and mercy, concretely proving his dominion over the Earth.
I lost it, though. But he still rules over all.
I lost it, though. But he still rules over all.
My dogs rule as well! However, the only throne I've ever wished they could learn to sit on was more along the lines of this type.
Oh, as to the hollow Earth idea...Nope, there's just no way folks.
QUOTE(Emma_Acid_88 @ Apr 8 2007, 06:46 PM) [snapback]1619270[/snapback]
There are lots of reasons why the earth can't be hollow.
But I think when "scientist" talk about reasons it can't be hollow they are forgetting about things such as leprechaun MAGIC!!!!!!!! Abracadabra Mr. Scientist!!!
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 9 2007, 12:56 AM) [snapback]1619278[/snapback]
But I think when "scientist" talk about reasons it can't be hollow they are forgetting about things such as leprechaun MAGIC!!!!!!!! Abracadabra Mr. Scientist!!!
SHAZZZAM!!!
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 8 2007, 08:08 PM) [snapback]1618996[/snapback]
Obviously it doesnt crash in on itself by the use of magic...do I have to explain everything...and photos taken of middle earth will not show up because of...hmmm...oh screw it less say magic again...
There are no cameras in Middle Earth, Sauron, yes, Hobbits, yes, but no cameras
QUOTE(Emma_Acid_88 @ Apr 9 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]1620010[/snapback]
SHAZZZAM!!!
Is Gomer Pyle here?
I use to think that the Hollow Earth theory was interesting but not possible, but, with my own research through the years, though not completely convinced, I am, however, of a more open mind than I used to be. Especially after conducting an experiment of my own making that, while certainly not conclusive, had a compelling and interesting outcome.
I took an old Christmas Tree ornament we used on a pine tree in the front yard that was made of clear glass 8 inches in diameter. I then used a glass cutter and scored a line 9/10s of the way around the ornament till the ends almost met. I had a cork that fit the top of the ornament and drilled a hole just small enough so the shaft of the motor from an old record player would fit tightly into it. The motor I had bolted to a board that would fit between two shelves of a chest freezer I had in the garage so that the ornament/globe would hang from the motor shaft and spin freely. I epoxied the cork to the motor shaft. I had purchased two boxes of green jello for this experiment and proceeded to make that and pour it inside the ornament till it almost reached the top(I left about 1/2 inch from the top)and using the 5 minute epoxy, I glued the cork to the globe. Once the glue had set, I put motor and globe in the freezer making sure the board would not move and plugged the motor in. with the weight of the liquid, the globe spun but not too fast. I closed the freezer and left it overnight.
Next morning I checked on my experiment. The globe was still spinning in the freezer, but of course now that it was frozen, much faster than before. I took the board with the motor/globe out and using a wet cloth I had put in the microwave for few seconds to get it nice and hot, I wrapped the globe with it making the glass split where I had scored it completeing the circle. I took the split top off and turned the bottom over to get the jello ball out and using a hack saw cut it in half. What I saw surprised me. Being 99% liquid at the time I put it in the freezer, I never thought that what I found would happen. I thoughtthere would not be enough room,for the inside of my little jello globe was hollow. About four inches worth. I figure that as the jello was freezing with the centrifugal force,it compressed enough that the center was able to become hollow. But that's just a theory. I'm sure one of you here at the UM can come up with a more plausible explanation and as I said, this is just an interesting experiment with surprising results that left me thinking that a hollow Earth might not be so far fetched after all. I'm still looking for more concrete evidence but I have a more open mind than before.
Please y'all no voodoo dolls, I have enough aches and pains, I'm old dontcha know
QUOTE(Lightwolf @ Apr 10 2007, 05:34 AM) [snapback]1621567[/snapback]
I use to think that the Hollow Earth theory was interesting but not possible, but, with my own research through the years, though not completely convinced, I am, however, of a more open mind than I used to be.
If the Earth were hollow we would be in danger of death by suffocation, thirst, frying, starving, freezing and drowning, in that order.
A hollow Earth would not have enough mass to hold on to an atmosphere by gravity, and all the surface water would boil away. If the crust had enough mass to make up for the hollow centre, there would be no magnetic field, which is generated by the Earth's liquid iron interior. Compasses wouldn't work, and some migratory animal species might get lost, but that would be the least of our worries as deadly radiation from the sun and outer space could then penetrate to the Earth's surface.
If this could be solved, then presuming we could grow gills we could live underwater. We'd need to, because within a million years the continents would have eroded to little more than sandbanks, and the sea level would rise because of all the sediment that was dumped in the ocean by the rivers. It is only subduction and mountain building, created by the same convection currents in the interior that create the Earth's magnetic field, that keep uplifting the land to compensate for erosion.
Volcanic eruptions and subduction of tectonic plates also play an important role in regulating the carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere. Without these processes, plant growth could cease entirely because of all the carbon reaching the ocean floor through erosion, and the Earth would enter a period of deep freeze, deprived of the essential warming effect - and food supply - that carbon dioxide gives us now.
from: http://www.newscientist.com/backpage.ns?id=mg18224506.900
How can the Earth be hollow when everyone knows it's flat ..... 
Are you actually suggesting that the Earth is some sort of ball or something? 
That's daft - everyone would fall off when it turned over 
Are you actually suggesting that the Earth is some sort of ball or something? That's daft - everyone would fall off when it turned over
Yeah the earth is hollow. Which would explain the obvious the massive amount of buildings falling into the earth.
QUOTE(Tenkay @ Apr 8 2007, 03:31 PM) [snapback]1618800[/snapback]
A lot of respectable scientists and writers believed that Earth is hollow inside
Can I have that list of respectable scientists, so that I can call someone to have their credentials taken away?
QUOTE(Razer @ Apr 10 2007, 10:42 AM) [snapback]1621846[/snapback]
Can I have that list of respectable scientists, so that I can call someone to have their credentials taken away?
Here you go, the entire list:
QUOTE(Essan @ Apr 10 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]1622128[/snapback]
Here you go, the entire list:
yeah, I think that's all of them... I can only imagine how much time it took you to compile this comprehensive list, good job...
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Apr 10 2007, 12:37 PM) [snapback]1622139[/snapback]
yeah, I think that's all of them... I can only imagine how much time it took you to compile this comprehensive list, good job...
Holy shiznit! That's a LOT of people!
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