What is the story behind the Grim Reaper?

Did someone see him in an NDE?

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Yup, the Grim Reaper is just a myth.

I agree the grim reaper is fake. But has anyone heard of any stories of angels appearing after someone has passed?

Hmm, my wife and her aunt sit in her uncles room as he was dying, and both swear to God that a tall dark hooded figure was floating up near one of the corners of the room for his last thirty minutes or so of life. It obviously terrified them.
When he died the entity vanished.
I know my wife wouldn't lie to me about this so what is one to think?

"The Black Hoods"... Art Bell[Coast to Coast] talks about them all the time. The only difference is there is no sickle loping anybody's head off [like a farmer myth] and casting them into murderous Hell.

Hmmm I never actually heard of a "grim reaper" like spirit appear before. Thanks for sharing. I have only heard of a group of angles mostly 5 to 6 that surround the death bed in the final moments of someones life.What they saw may have been a demon that haunted the home?

I just asked my wife about it and she said this entity did not have a scythe. She says that the entity was about seven ft. tall and stood in the corner with his arms straight in front. She said he had a whitish light surrounding his body to. Weird.

Guess it could've been a demon..

It stood their with it's arm straight out like zombies??? I know this may sound dumb but does anyone know of any pictures that could possibly be real to of this event, not the one you speak of, just any in general.

Yep like zombies. She just told me the light surrounding him was a white-goldish color, and that you couldn't see his hands or face because of the hood and the robe. She also says he was there for almost all night, not a half hour. Weird chitz huh?

I would have to agree that this is a pretty rare sighting. If it is true(not saying your wife and are lying). Is there anyone else on here willing to share your point of view on this subject?

I think the Reaper is a symbol. a symbol of someone who has passed. Maybe each person has their own reaper, just like gaurdian angels, that only shows itself when the person is dying.

Maybe the reaper shows itself to try and keep the person alive.

Or maybe it gaurds the gates of hell.

Tell me what you think of all these possible reasons for the Grim Reaper appearing when someone is about to pass through deaths doors.

If I EVER saw The Grim Reaper. (If he was real or not.) I would scream bloody mary then run the other direction. XD

I'm not sure if The Grim Reaper is real or not. But if people report seeing him then I believe them. ^^

So would I, imagine seeing his rotting skeleton face!
I think that it could be real, but there is a lot of evidence the Reaper doesn't exist.

Mr. Thozzman, I was giving thought to this story, and, have you ever heard of astral projection? Many people who are in near death experiences tend to have them, and perhaps your uncles was having one right before he had died. Many who experience this report floating over their bodies, viewing over the room, the only exception in your case is that it's in the corner for some reason. Now when you are lifted off the ground naturally, you'd send out your arms to try and keep some balance.

The reason why this figure could have been so dark is because ghosts, or any other apparitions is that, they are usually only seen using infared techonlogy. Infared is an electromagnetic frequecy right below, what we are able to see. This could be why your wife saw a black shadowy figure. The figure was not solid because it was not clearly visible and it was black because the lower you go on the electromagnetic spectrum, darker because of less radiation. Please specify what had the light around it, your uncle...in...law? or the figure. The light around your uncle-in...law would have made more sense because he'd have been transmitting these wave from his body which would make his body radioactive, possibly conducting from ultraviolent to (hopefully not) gamma ray. In my opinion, it is not the grim reaper they saw, but it was your grandfather projecting himself, of course it could all be a coicidence.

As for the grim reaper, it is pure myth. The black gown symbolizes the darkness of death. The skeleton hands, also symbolize death, which if he touches you with, will kill you. The fact that his face cannot be seen is a symbol of an executioner. The last, is that the scythe that he carries represents a weapon to execute you with, as a scythe was a medieval weapon, and at the same time symbolizes the harvesting of souls, using the same tool to harvest wheat or whatnot.

I agree with you, perhaps when the grim reaper touches you, a wave of darkness and despair comes over you, killing you instantly.

In my opinion after reading oll of these is the typical halloween version of a skeleton in a black robe is complete;y false and the astro projection theory seems pretty rational to me. But Like I have said before I think Angels are the ones who see that the souls of the deceased reach their final destination. Though in my opinion the whole reaper story derives from the story in the bible of the plagues that struck Egypt namely the death of the firstborn where a single angle was sent to do the job.

I don't think the reaper is a solid thing, I think it is like the opposite of an Angel, it only appears as a person is about to die or has died, but usually dissapears (probably to guide the dead one) when the person dies.

You misunderstood me, the grimreaper is a complete myth, it fits into all the symbolic characteristcs, the myth and the experience of the uncle-in-law were completely seperate. However, reflecting on this now, it is possible that the tales of the grim reaper are misinterpreted astral-projections of near-death-experiencees, and that the fact had myths added onto it. All myths come from some facts people just don't understand. Now that I think of it, the whole typical grim reaper comes from the Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens, not as the Grim Reaper, nor holding all of his characteristics, but the robe, boney finger and the hidden face, and it evolved into a modern grim reaper. The fact is that Charles Dickens uses the Ghost of Christmas yet to come to show death as the future holds, since no one can live forever, and after which people have believed that Charles Dickens was hiding some truth in what he had said. So the Grim Reaper is a myth, credits to Charles Dickens and LATER mixed Astral projections in future 'accounts'.

Like I've said before, this is the only Grim Reaper I'd like any contact with.



Seriously, has modern life gotten so down right boring that people have to start believing in ancient mythology? Or is it closer to the truth to say some people will believe in just about anything without applying even a modicum of rational thought?






Never mind.....

Ignorance is bliss. Have you read anything of what I've been ranting of? Do you have knowledge of theoretical physics and how it may apply to these myths of the past?

I know what you meant, the Reaper was a myth, then some people started to believe, then more, and more. After a while people who believed would say they saw him, including before and after someone dies, it's there minds way of dealing with the grief, by creating something that is not there.
I believe it is true, not because it actually exists, but because it is created by the mind. The Reaper was probably created by someone who wanted to scare others.
So as I said before I don't think it is an actual thing, it's just a creation of the mind, but the mind truly believes it is there.

I understand what you mean now, I've thought of theories that the human power of invention or creation hold more than what is myth and what is real. Like, as if we could possibly create our world simply by believing it exists. There's also other things that could fit into what you say such as mental projection, where someone is able to present false things to an observe through simple mind power. The secret lies within electromagnetics and radiation, we just have to understand how these thing exist. We have to want to believe.

This is a true story....I knew someone who's relative was passing away and he said all his relative did was stare in terror to something no one else could see in the corner of the room.

But I was curious....did your uncle believe in god or was he an atheist?

Well sir (or ma'am), if not accepting supposition, speculation and conjecture as fact is ignorance, then I shall be blissfully on my way.

It's sir,

oh and btw, if holding fact as only looking at the worst of a topic then you are obviously ignorant, rather you must judge based on everyone rather than just the select few. I really don't want to start a fight here, but please, do you have to just make rude comments, who are you to say what people do and don't believe, are we not all entitled to an opinion, and NOT to force that opinion on other, and so I leave you with the choice to appologize. I appologize for some remarks that I have said.

Thank you. Also what I meant by the When the reaper touches you thing, the mind is in such shock from the mind power created reaper that it shuts down.

Okay, sir it is.

I'm not judging, but rather, making an observation. The subject of this thread is deals with something that is recognized as a mythological figure. If you or anyone else chooses to believe it exists then that's your prerogative. I'm only stating my opinion (which I'm entitled to) and not trying to force it on anyone.

But, I stand by my comment; I think Ellen Muth is a hottie.

Kudos to you sir.

I never said the reaper was a solid thing. Everyone should agree that if it is anything it is a spirit. But while reading other posts I think I have come up to a good theory. Lets sa the "death" spirit bieng a reaper or angel comes to the place of death and instead of hacking of its head or helping the dieing person along they simpl wait until the spirit leaves the body ready for the next world and the guides it from there?

This is a good theory since when people have near-death experiences they are said to hear a voice call to them saying come into the light. But the thing is that the reaper appears as a dark figure; closer to a ghost than an angel. Aside from that, my theory of it being higher up on the electromagnetic spectrum would allow for it to manipulate other waves (like us). Of course it must not have that much power and is probably consisted of x-rays or ultra-violent waves, and so it can take us to the 'afterlife' but with our co-operation. But then the reaper or angel of death would need to be bright, and not dark in our eyes. And so I'd have to disagree with your theory pending further discovery.

Well maybe spirits are like shadow people...who have been specutalted to be able to move between their dimension and ours. Im not sure where your trying to get at with the whole light thing but maybe it is a rift or portal that allowed them through or the aftermath of their dimension jumping. Also I guess that these spirits or whatever they maybe could be light themselves or that they are solid like us but somehow for a breif time,just long enough to retrieve a soul can speed up their bodies molecules fast enough to pass through dimensions. Somewhat like that movie that was out a few years ago.

I already said it could be that the Reaper guides the dead person, but you've explained it well!

See, light comes from moving electrons in altoms. Hence, the atom is radiated. Now every atom is radiated, known as an electromagnetic frequency. Unfortunately, being humans, all we can see is the visible spectrum, ROYGBIV. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum On the right is the full spectrum. Only a small percent in which we can see with the human eye. Now if ghosts are known to be caught on infared camera, perhaps they are lower than our frequency, which means that they are able to do less than we can. The low part of the electro-magnetic spectrum is black, but only a few rays of the spectrum we can see. So if we saw a ghost, it would not be coloured, but a shadow (black), and as a shadow, it would make it appear transparent. So the next time you see a ghost or so, get an infared camera, or even something on a lower frequency. Now since I mentioned people usually see a white light, how can this fit, when ghost don't have enough power in our 'dimension' if you will that they can do what we are capable of, maybe because ghosts are actually not life-forms but just recordings of lifeforms, which makes their actions limited. Now the reason why I saw that bright beings usually tend to have some power over us is because in the spectrum, the higher frequencies are able to manipulate lower frequencies. So that means we should be able to manipulate lower frequencies (telekinesis perhaps? I don't know, I'm not a psychic or parapsychologist).

Basically just try to understand electromagnetics. I have a recognizable knowledge of it, and I'm only 16 years old, I'm sure you can too.

Thanks for the compliment.




First of all I was not talking of ghosts. In my opinion ghost are mearly demons that have attached itself to a place or the memmories of a place rather bieng happy or sad moments. Idk where the whole spectrum lecture came from. I never mentioned these reapers life forms in the first place. I was mearly stating that they have the ability to jump from the realm of spirits into ours...and they have the ability to keep themselves invisible unless they feel obliged or are ordered to reveal themselves to certain people upon their dispacthed places

But then by saying that they have the ability to jump through realms, then they have to be a life form to be that intelligent. And btw, about the ghosts being demons, what is it that makes a demon different than a ghost, it's intentions or that way it lives, please explain.

And also, you must have some sort of science behind your theories. Nothing just happens without explaination, even paranormal things have explaination, you have to look for it.

And FYI, I'd just like to state that I don't believe in reapers at all, I said in one of my previous posts that they have originated from a literal text from A Christmas Story, and have evolved. What I provided as an explaination for Thozzman's wife's experience was that it was misinterpretted as a reaper. I honestly don't know how much there is left to discuss. Have you ever seen a reaper for yourself?

No I have never seen a reaper myself. I am just mearly stating my idea and theories of how this phenomenon happens, idk there is anyway to prove this. I agree with you in the fact that reapers are not real. I believe that there three different kinds of demons 1. the leaders who conceive the evil they are known for 2 the ones that carry out the evil( which all lesser ones do) 3 the ones like people find a plce they like , stay and attach themselves to it somewhat. As for them being intellegent and life forms. I agree that they must be intellegent or have some level of concisousness but being of alive leaves me skeptical...what is alive...to me it is being in possesion of a physical body and a soul...and these spirits/reapers w/e they are are not copporeal for the most part. What are your views o that?

I am happy that we're able to come to common grounds.

Well about your thoughts about what is alive, I believe that the body as you said, it not a necessity but rather it is just a means of transportation for the mind. For if, when you die, the mind decomposes with the body...well...that would just suck. And so it's all a fact of not what is alive but rather what is dead. You're right, it is possible for these demons (and I don't like refering to the demons described from the bible or any person just blurting out a word to describe the terror they see rather than understand it) to live on a timeless plane. Without time, there really is no death, and so these demons cannot die but possibly are able to be sent that this dimension of death where people are guided as some say. Maybe they are just like us when we die, but rather than having choices, they are only able to perform bad. Anyway, I can't really talk about demons that much, I haven't read up on them, the only reason why I find them existing is because they are distinct from ghosts or poltergeists as they have the ability to corrupt the mind, usually during hypnosis as some report, using ouiji boards. Perhaps the timeless plane that they live on, it the subconcious, and rather than the subconcious being conceiled to our minds alone, perhaps the subconcious is another dimension of the universe.

I dont know if you have heard of this but i think that this realm and that of the spirits coexist. I have heard this often. The theory is that both us and the spirits inhabit this earth but we mearly like you said and i can see the point now that we live on two seperate levels of conciousness. Idk maybe they are superior level of conciousness and we the lower life...idk just a thought

That does make sense.

I seriously can not conceive of one entity continously travelling the world plucking souls and sending them to the afterlife. One entity would not be able to do that - just like Santa Claus delivering presents to the children of the world one night a year. There have to be other factors at play.

I agree so thats why I keep saying there must be more than one. thats why people who actually see the spirits when a loved one dies may see more than one.

Like I said before the mind creates reapers. Only our minds make this information, like when someone dies relatives and close people see a reaper or a shadow. This is the minds way with dealing with grief. And Santa doesn't exist!

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As I said before, the reaper doesn't exist, it's just a creation of man that has evolved from a story, people read one of my previous posts explaining this. There is no more to dicuss on the reaper as this thread has gone off that topic.

the grim reaper. . . well now, this is interesting, i may know a bit about him, but u gotta ask what u wanna know. . .

It may have gone off the "reaper" aspect but it still disscusses what truly happens when someone passes.

Well, I may have an explanation as to why this relative was staring at something no-one could see. There is a new drug doing the rounds in my home town at the moment – I can’t remember the name of it – DMT or DMC or something. Anyway, I was talking to someone about it at the weekend who was tried this drug. Apparently you smoke it on a pipe as you would crack. He said that before he had even exhaled the smoke he started hallucinating. He also informed me that the human body produces this drug itself – but only twice in your life – when you are born and when you die. So maybe this is what made your friend’s relative see something in the corner? His body produced this drug and it caused him to hallucinate?

Then there's another topic for that in another category.

The Grim Reaper... That's an interesting question. I'd probobly say he's not real, but the reason I came here is to say this isn't the right board for The Grim Reaper.