http://youtube.com/watch?v=B4PkNPCEnJM
watch the video.

this guy is good! hes an alien, hes a nordic

He's not telling the truth...

Got any proof?!

elaborate please!! bring forth your wise words

how do you know?...I've heard of this guy he's telling the truth...

I'm sure he did in fact hack into NASA, but he did not see any evidence of the technology he claims...

proof...my proof is that he has no proof...typical, he finally finds proof that Worlds Govts have been lying to us for years and he now has ABSOLUTE PROOF of alien life and alien technology...but he doesn't record/save any of it....how conveniant...

Someone has been exhibiting their anti-gravity machines in the skies of nations around the globe, and has been doing so for centuries, as noted in historical records of mankind!

Do you have copies of these so called "historical records of mankind"...oh wait that would be evidence to support your claim...how silly

A couple of the many UFO reports over the centuries. You claim it's "silly" only because you failed to do your homework!


1180 Japan, Kii province: A term equivalent to our "flying saucer" was actually used by the Japanese approximately 700 years before it came into use in the West. Ancient documents describe an unusual shining object seen in the night as a flying "earthenware vessel." The object, which had been heading northeast from a mountain in Kii province, changed its direction and vanished below the horizon, leaving a luminous trail.

1676 Edmond Hally, the astronomer who discovered Haley's comet, could recall two accounts involving unidentified crafts. His first experience was in March of, when he saw a, as he said, "Vast body apparently bigger than the moon." He estimated it at 40 mi. above him. He also stated that it made a noise, "Like the rattling of a great cart over stones." After estimating the distance it traveled in a matter of minutes, he came to the conclusion that it moved at a speed greater than 9,600 m.p.h.

That does not look very "official" looks like you copied and pasted off some "Pro-UFO" website

If you had done your homework, you would have found those are the facts and that in the world of astronomy, Halley's sightings are recorded as such.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/Cases/CaseView....tion=Astronomer


Astronmers and Their UFO Sightings

http://www.xdream.freeserve.co.uk/UFOBase/Astronomers.htm

If you call downloading photo's from nasa alien technology...then call me stevie davis jr. Why would Nasa keep "high classified photos" (what ever u wanna call em..i call em pics) on a server that is easily hacked into? Wouldn't you think they would have a seperate server that stays clear away from an internet connection so things like this don't happen? This guy knows he hacked into a nasa computer and now he trying to cover-up for his kiddie porn that is still stored on his Hard-Drive that he'll never get back.

You're going to believe a criminal? I would hate for most of you to be a jury...i could see all sorts of people getting away with rapes, murders, and burglary.

Get real..this guy is looking for media backup so he wouldn't be sent to federal prison where soap bars are left untouched and cornholing is given a new defination.

Yea...he took the time to save the kiddie porn pics from NASA's hardrive...

so NASA dabbles in that too?...your full of useful info....

Here is another astronomer who has been talkling about his UFO sighting. I think that NASA is not telling us the whole story as to what is going on over our heads. In fact, I am sure of it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clyde_Tombaugh

very interesting i'd never heard of him....so he discovered pluto and believed in ufo's!....nice find; thanks for sharing...

Yes, he believed in UFOs. But UFOs as in Unidentified Flying Objects, not ET. He never claimed it was ET. While he said that he believed in ETH, he never claimed that there was any proof and that was he had seen was for a fact ET. He was a scientist and he recognized as much.

Best,
Badeskov

This is what Astronomer Clyde Tombaugh said.



However, the Mogul and Skyhook scientist at White Sands, New Mexico were straight-to-the-point, as noted by Commander Robert B. McLaughlin.



http://roswellproof.homestead.com/McLaughl...len_letter.html

http://www.nicap.org/nmexico/wsands490614docs.htm

http://roswellproof.homestead.com/Mogul_UFOs.html

Ok , what does it take to point out the obvious?.....NASA has this stuff?.....Yet , we still use rockets and the space shuttle to go to space ( risking lives doing it )....?

Come on....If we had this technology , we would use it....

Not really... The NASA program we know might be a cover-up for an alternative space program that has already been to different planets and has made contact...IT MIGHT..i'm not saying it is.

"Here is another astronomer who has been talkling about his UFO sighting. I think that NASA is not telling us the whole story as to what is going on over our heads. In fact, I am sure of it!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clyde_Tombaugh

Thanks, I also have never heard of him. I Found this part quite interresting

"Tombaugh's offer may have led to his involvement in a search for near-Earth satellites, first announced in late 1953 and sponsored by the Army Office of Ordnance Research. Another public statement was made on the search in March 1954 (photo at right), emphasizing the rationale that such an orbiting object would serve as a natural space station.[11] However, according to Donald Keyhoe, later director of the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP), the real reason for the sudden search was because two near-Earth orbiting objects had been picked up on new long-range radar in the summer of 1953, according to his Pentagon source."

And this

"However, the story didn't really break until August 23, 1954, when Aviation Week magazine stated that two satellites had been found only 400 and 600 miles out. They were termed "natural satellites" and implied that they had been recently captured, despite this being a virtual impossibility. The next day, the story was in many major newspapers. Dr. La Paz was implicated in the discovery in addition to Tombaugh. La Paz had earlier conducted secret investigations on behalf of the Air Force on the Green Fireballs and other unidentified aerial phenomena over New Mexico."

And then they denied that anything had been found. Hmmm, seems similar to what happened at Roswell. I'm going to do some searching to see if I can find out anymore about this.

I think that Gary McKinnon is telling the truth. Why would he say all this, especially with no proof. Also, why hasn't NASA and whoever else he hacked into shown him or anyone what the damage he did was. I've seen / been to other websites that make the same claims he does about what he saw, so are they all making up the same lies? Sooner or later the truth will be revealed, hopefully sooner!

that sounds entirely possible...use up all the funds on the visible program.. while funding the black book project with illegally gained funds....

this hacker has def stood by everything he stated. i think sometimes people get close to seeing what its all really about then the floor is pulled out from underneath them. to answer a question about us using this technology. it is not possible to use it. why you ask? because if they showed that they had the technology to do the things a ufo can do then the people would want to know why are we still using oil and gas as fuel. as long as someone makes money selling oil and gas and we have to pay for electricity (which Tesla proved could be made nearly free) than we will never see public use of this technology. the power of greed demands we pay and pay dearly for our uses of fuel.

You are aware that anyone can put anything into wikipedia...

the debunker's back. lol

Well, you know, it doesn't take but just a few minutes to do your homework and find that is EXACTLY what he has stated in his interviews, but since you don't believe in doing any homework at all, you wouldn't have known that!

Michael D. Swords, Department Of Science Studies, Western Michagan University, did a little write-up about Clyde Tombaugh and confirmed his UFO sightings, but not doing your homework, you wouldn't have known about his remarks.

ScienceFrontiers
An Astronomer's UFO

http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf129/sf129p15.htm

This is why the government doesnt want us to have this kind of technology.... Im sure that the only reason we still use gas and oil is because the big oil companies pay the government to keep drilling for oil.. maybe its not the government but the multi billionaires that try to always get more and more money..the black projects may b e funded by the oil companies.

The government is big oil....if people found out there was alternative technology while they got us bent over the oil barrel....people would revolt...

exactly!
Someone must catch the government with their pants down so the entire world will realize what they have been hiding

First, I'm not convinced that Mr. McKinnon is telling the truth here. After all, he was caught doing something that's a really big "no no". It may very well be he's simply looking for a way out of trouble.

Now, if there is an element of reality to what he's saying some of it really doesn't make a great deal of sense. Why store such sensitive information (UFOs and free energy) where anyone can easily get to it? If the 'powers that be' know of alternative energy why don't those with the money and power (the big oil people everyone is talking about) just patent this new technology themselves? This 'free energy' has to involve some type of technology and method of distribution, those who patent this new technology will become (or remain) rich and powerful.

Personally, Mr. McKinnon comes across to me as someone who's in a heap of trouble and has latched onto something he hopes will help get him out of a mess.

I believe the free energy they are covering up is in the form of a power cell....it would be a onetime purchase rather than a daily habit....

there is no free energy....if there were free energy technology already then why are scientists still trying to figure out how to create it in labs? Get real conspiracy is what screws this country up. First we didn't land on the moon, then 9/11 was a demolition site, and now the government has free energy technology but can't figure out how it works.

I can see it now...George Bush trying to fit a triangle into the box shape holder. Let get real here lady and gentlemen.

You don't "create" free-energy... You tap into it.

you just said you were a paid debunker in the other thread?....

colbert. . . shut up. . . u are skeptic about everything, u haveing a bad day today or something? cause im REALLY tired of seeing u whine, ive gtg now this class period is over, ill be on either later or 2morrow

I tend to agree. I think he was an anti-war protester, trying to mess up the Pentagon (not good)- Apparently leaving anti war messages on their computer screens- well, so I remember reading. I think he realised he wouldn't get too much sympathy so has tried to latch onto the UFO community.


Interview with Gary Mckinnon

"What was the most exciting thing you saw?"

"I found a list of officers' names," he says, "under the heading 'Non-Terrestrial Officers'. It doesn't mean little green men. What I think it means is not Earth-based. I found a list of 'fleet-to-fleet transfers', and a list of ship names. I looked them up. They weren't US Navy ships. What I saw made me believe they have some kind of spaceship, off-planet."

"The Americans have a secret spaceship?" I ask.

"That's what this trickle of evidence has led me to believe."

"What were the ship names?"

"I can't remember," he says. "I was smoking a lot of dope at the time. Not good for the intellect."

This was November 2000. By now, McKinnon was hooked. He quit his job as a systems administrator for a small business, "which hugely pissed off my girlfriend, Tamsin".

"It was the last straw," he says. "She dumped me and started seeing this other bloke because I was such a selfish waste of space. Poor Tamsin. And she was the one paying the phone bill because I didn't have a job. We were still living together. God, have you ever tried living with someone after you've split up? It's bad."

Hardly a good case..

link

You left out the cures for cancer and aids that the US is also keeping so the pharmaceutical companies can continue making money off of the treatments...

fitting....

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there ya go! its the same reason why scientist will not find a cure for cancer or aids. money big companies will keep any truly new discoveries from being released. if cancer was cured or aids cured or our depedance for fossil fuel products than big companies go bankrupt.....well untill the create/discover some new disease. or star chargeing us for water and air!