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Lfesavr
Canadians still seeing UFOs, survey shows;
Saskatchewan posts an all-time record of 98 sightings last year
[left]Aliens and spaceships are a bit passe these days, but 736 reported UFO sightings across Canada last year shows an "underlying, real phenomenon" going on, says one of the country's top UFO researchers.

"It's true, we don't have as many aliens on TV as we used to - they used to be on commercials selling us everything from Pepsi to decongestants," says Chris Rutkowski, director of the Winnipeg-based Ufology Research institute. "And yet the phenomenon persists, which to me says there is a basic underlying, real phenomenon that extends beyond media and pop culture."

Rutkowski's annual Canadian UFO Survey last year recorded the third-largest number of sightings in its 17-year history - down from a record of 882 sightings in 2004.
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Of all the reports included in the 2006 UFO Survey, the most mysterious include the sighting of a huge, black, V-shaped object moving slowly out over the Newfoundland coastline last August.
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Ciraxis
canadians have got to stop drinking so much
Unlimited
QUOTE(Ciraxis @ Apr 11 2007, 02:48 PM) [snapback]1623672[/snapback]
canadians have got to stop drinking so much


maybe they should stop looking at the sky?...I believe mexico and canada are seeing more ufo's because they are staying out of the US.. because they shoot at them....
Alienated Being
QUOTE(Ciraxis @ Apr 11 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]1623672[/snapback]
canadians have got to stop drinking so much

We're not drunkards. I'm sorry.
badeskov
QUOTE(limited @ Apr 11 2007, 07:50 AM) [snapback]1623679[/snapback]
maybe they should stop looking at the sky?...I believe mexico and canada are seeing more ufo's because they are staying out of the US.. because they shoot at them....


I have a hard time believing that. On one side we hear that the UFOs are so advanced that they can evade anything humankind can throw at them and they can play hide and seek with us at their leisure, on the other hand they are afraid of entering US airspace because they are fired upon? Sorry, I don't really follow this.

That is one, among quite a few, of the contradictions in this whole UFO=ET enigma that I have a hard time comprehending.

Best,
Badeskov
badeskov
QUOTE(Alienated Being @ Apr 11 2007, 08:25 AM) [snapback]1623714[/snapback]
We're not drunkards. I'm sorry.


Hehe, I know a few Canadians that would put that statement to shame wink2.gif Jokes asides, obviously not!

Best,
Badeskov
m. Moe
QUOTE(Ciraxis @ Apr 11 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]1623672[/snapback]
canadians have got to stop drinking so much

It's hard, our beer has a higher level of alcohol. thumbsup.gif

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maybe they should stop looking at the sky?...I believe mexico and canada are seeing more ufo's because they are staying out of the US.. because they shoot at them....

Okay, first off, the US still has far more UFO sightings than Canada or Mexico, so your theory is out the door. Secondly, since when has the U.S army shoot down UFOs? Give me one accountable, prooven example.
Unlimited
QUOTE(MR_MOE @ Apr 11 2007, 08:15 PM) [snapback]1624075[/snapback]
It's hard, our beer has a higher level of alcohol. thumbsup.gif
Okay, first off, the US still has far more UFO sightings than Canada or Mexico, so your theory is out the door. Secondly, since when has the U.S army shoot down UFOs? Give me one accountable, prooven example.


do you think they shoot down ufo's then report it?....i said they shoot at them; I think the ufo's out manuever their aaa and guided missles...
Unlimited
QUOTE(badeskov @ Apr 11 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]1623923[/snapback]
I have a hard time believing that. On one side we hear that the UFOs are so advanced that they can evade anything humankind can throw at them and they can play hide and seek with us at their leisure, on the other hand they are afraid of entering US airspace because they are fired upon? Sorry, I don't really follow this.

That is one, among quite a few, of the contradictions in this whole UFO=ET enigma that I have a hard time comprehending.

Best,
Badeskov


yes the UFO's evade whatevers thrown at them...but it's just a hassle when they can fly freely over canada and mexico without confrontation....and the reason theirs more sighting in the US is because canadas basically desolate except the populated areas....
m. Moe
QUOTE(limited @ Apr 11 2007, 02:58 PM) [snapback]1624147[/snapback]
do you think they shoot down ufo's then report it?....i said they shoot at them; I think the ufo's out manuever their aaa and guided missles...

Do you have proof they shoot at them? And you still haven't explained why the US still has more UFO sightings than Canada if your theory is plausable. If your theory is plausable, then there should still be more UFO sightings in Canada despite the population difference.

And what do you mean "can fly freely over canada and mexico without confrontation"? We are not unarmed. If the Canadian Forces accepts UFOs and see's them as a threat like you are saying the US does, then they would shoot them down aswell.
Unlimited
QUOTE(MR_MOE @ Apr 11 2007, 09:05 PM) [snapback]1624158[/snapback]
Do you have proof they shoot at them? And you still haven't explained why the US still has more UFO sightings than Canada if your theory is plausable. If your theory is plausable, then there should still be more UFO sightings in Canada despite the population difference.

And what do you mean "can fly freely over canada and mexico without confrontation"? We are not unarmed. If the Canadian Forces accepts UFOs and see's them as a threat like you are saying the US does, then they would shoot them down aswell.


if the US cant shoot one down what chance does canada have...lol...cmon be serious...
airika
QUOTE(limited @ Apr 11 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]1624154[/snapback]
yes the UFO's evade whatevers thrown at them...but it's just a hassle when they can fly freely over canada and mexico without confrontation....and the reason theirs more sighting in the US is because canadas basically desolate except the populated areas....


Doesn't it also make sense to assume there are more sightings in the US then anywhere else, because these "UFO'S" are actually US military aircraft?
Colbert Nation
QUOTE(airika @ Apr 12 2007, 12:27 AM) [snapback]1624901[/snapback]
Doesn't it also make sense to assume there are more sightings in the US then anywhere else, because these "UFO'S" are actually US military aircraft?


Airika...shhhhhh, its a secret...thats why we let these "believers" get all worked up and blame us for hiding UFOS...we want them to think we are hiding alien aircraft when its really....well...let's not give it away...
airika
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 11 2007, 10:32 PM) [snapback]1624905[/snapback]
Airika...shhhhhh, its a secret...thats why we let these "believers" get all worked up and blame us for hiding UFOS...we want them to think we are hiding alien aircraft when its really....well...let's not give it away...


OH!....sorry whistling2.gif
skyeagle409
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 12 2007, 05:32 AM) [snapback]1624905[/snapback]
Airika...shhhhhh, its a secret...thats why we let these "believers" get all worked up and blame us for hiding UFOS...we want them to think we are hiding alien aircraft when its really....well...let's not give it away...


Well, the U.S. Army's Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit (IPU) was created for a specific purpose; the recovery of downed spacecraft. Since we didn't have any spacecrafts when the IPU was created, means that the spacecrafts it was created to recover, weren't ours.
Unlimited
QUOTE(airika @ Apr 12 2007, 05:27 AM) [snapback]1624901[/snapback]
Doesn't it also make sense to assume there are more sightings in the US then anywhere else, because these "UFO'S" are actually US military aircraft?


It's just because of the internet and people reporting.. that the US has the most sightings....
itsnotoutthere
QUOTE(skyeagle409 @ Apr 12 2007, 07:13 AM) [snapback]1624923[/snapback]
Well, the U.S. Army's Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit (IPU) was created for a specific purpose; the recovery of downed spacecraft. Since we didn't have any spacecrafts when the IPU was created, means that the spacecrafts it was created to recover, weren't ours.


Talk about an easy job. They must be sat on their a** all day long. Wonder if they have any vacancies.
:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR:
Most of these are probably falling debris, orbiting satellites, and the International spacestation people are mistaking for UFOs.
Lfesavr
QUOTE(MR_MOE @ Apr 11 2007, 04:15 PM) [snapback]1624075[/snapback]
... since when has the U.S army shoot down UFOs? Give me one accountable, prooven example.


Perhaps the Battle of LA

QUOTE(Sqratch @ Aug 30 2005, 08:36 AM) [snapback]817449[/snapback]
basically during the early hours in south LA there was a UFO and every body panicked. The military shot at it but nothing happened.
Check it out Here



--Sean
m. Moe
QUOTE(limited @ Apr 11 2007, 06:20 PM) [snapback]1624509[/snapback]
if the US cant shoot one down what chance does canada have...lol...cmon be serious...

rolleyes.gif I meant if the US tried to shoot them down, chances are Canada would try also.

QUOTE
Perhaps the Battle of LA

If that account was prooven, then we would all say "hey, aliens exist". That seems more like a Japanese attack than an alien one.



contactismade
LA was not a Japanese attack.
m. Moe
QUOTE(contactismade @ Apr 12 2007, 09:36 AM) [snapback]1625368[/snapback]
LA was not a Japanese attack.

Chances are it wasn't an alien attack either.
skyeagle409
QUOTE(itsnotoutthere @ Apr 12 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]1625130[/snapback]
Talk about an easy job. They must be sat on their a** all day long. Wonder if they have any vacancies.


Actually, there have been successful!
skyeagle409
QUOTE(MR_MOE @ Apr 12 2007, 03:21 PM) [snapback]1625350[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif I meant if the US tried to shoot them down, chances are Canada would try also.
If that account was prooven, then we would all say "hey, aliens exist". That seems more like a Japanese attack than an alien one.


The Russians tried to shoot down UFOs as well. This, from the Air Force Academy, which I will post again in case you missed it before. The public was unaware of what the Air Force was telling its cadets and when it was leaked as to what was contained in its science book, the Air Force pulled it off the shelf. The F-86 pilot who fired upon that flying saucer was blasted by his squadron commander.

QUOTE


INTRODUCTORY SPACE SCIENCE - VOLUME II
CHAPTER ***III
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS
DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS - USAF
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE ACADEMY

More recently, on 24 July 1957 Russian anti-aircraft batteries on the Kouril Islands opened fire on UFO's. Although all Soviet anti-aircraft batteries on the Islands were in action, no hits were made. The UFO's were luminous and moved very fast.

We too have fired on UFO's. About ten o'clock one morning, a radar site near a fighter base picked up a UFO doing 700 mph. The UFO then slowed to 100 mph, and two F-86's were scrambled to intercept. Eventually one F-86 closed on the UFO at about 3,000 feet altitude. The UFO began to accelerate away but the pilot still managed to get within 500 yards of the target for a short period of time. It was definitely saucer-shaped. As the pilot pushed the F-86 at top speed, the UFO began to pull away. When the range reached 1,000 yards, the pilot armed his guns and fired in an attempt to down the saucer. He failed, and the UFO pulled away rapidly, vanishing in the distance.

airika
QUOTE(limited @ Apr 12 2007, 03:01 AM) [snapback]1625030[/snapback]
It's just because of the internet and people reporting.. that the US has the most sightings....


limited, I really do like you, and I feel that some of your posts are very clever, but you can't actually believe that? It's as though every logical explanation anyone set's forth, you turn into a giant conspiracy. I'm not saying that you have never seen an actual Alien craft, all I know is that I haven't, and living in Nevada, I have seen quite a few odd military craft. I live quite near a bombing range. When they're doing their tests, the windows in my home shake. I can't even describe some of the military crafts that I have seen, but they are completely silent, and they just hover over the town. All I'm trying to point out, is that the military if capable of far more then UFOlogists are even willing to open their minds to. I'm not saying that ET's don't exist, I'm just saying that I for one have never seen one, I'm pretty sure that I never will, and seriously, why would someone come to our planet and probe a bunch of people, and then put them back in bed?
badeskov
QUOTE(MR_MOE @ Apr 12 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]1625369[/snapback]
Chances are it wasn't an alien attack either.


And that is really the core of it, isn't it? We don't know what it was (if anything at all) and we can theorize about it all day and night for months. But in the end, we have nothing substantial and we can make no conclusions except it was unknown (i.e., a UFO).

Best,
Badeskov
Colbert Nation
QUOTE(airika @ Apr 12 2007, 11:05 AM) [snapback]1625404[/snapback]
limited, I really do like you, and I feel that some of your posts are very clever, but you can't actually believe that? It's as though every logical explanation anyone set's forth, you turn into a giant conspiracy. I'm not saying that you have never seen an actual Alien craft, all I know is that I haven't, and living in Nevada, I have seen quite a few odd military craft. I live quite near a bombing range. When they're doing their tests, the windows in my home shake. I can't even describe some of the military crafts that I have seen, but they are completely silent, and they just hover over the town. All I'm trying to point out, is that the military if capable of far more then UFOlogists are even willing to open their minds to. I'm not saying that ET's don't exist, I'm just saying that I for one have never seen one, I'm pretty sure that I never will, and seriously, why would someone come to our planet and probe a bunch of people, and then put them back in bed?


IF you live that close to a bombing range I would consider moving...feel free to move in with me until you can find another place.
airika
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 12 2007, 01:56 PM) [snapback]1625816[/snapback]
IF you live that close to a bombing range I would consider moving...feel free to move in with me until you can find another place.


*Packs bags and waits for directions*
knott
Go ahead, be one of these folks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJUoiCdip7k
airika
QUOTE(knott @ Apr 12 2007, 02:43 PM) [snapback]1625888[/snapback]
Go ahead, be one of these folks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJUoiCdip7k


LMAO!.....Thank you. That was quite funny.
REBEL
Canadians still seeing UFOs, survey shows;
Saskatchewan posts an all-time record of 98 sightings last year.


I'd say a majority of those sightings could have been from way too much 'BC Bud' intake.
dog soldier
Not to get into the whole Canadian-American barrage, but I believe that Canadians have a lot less to worry about when looking into the sky. Canadians are very attuned to our environment and we take the time to enjoy what it offers without fear. Beer has nothing to do with it. Our country is more peaceful than others (also Mexico) so maybe they like flying over us because they know we will notice. Just a thought.
uth
How did this thread become about how popular a destination Canada is for UFOs? Hate to break it to you, but 736 is not a very large number, especially once you weed out the 85% misidentifications, that leaves just over 100 possbily genuine sightings for a population of 11 million. Sounds like Canada is hardly being visited to me.

Colbert Nation
QUOTE(dog soldier @ Apr 13 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]1627069[/snapback]
Our country is more peaceful than others (also Mexico) so maybe they like flying over us because they know we will notice. Just a thought.


I would have to guess they are flying over to gather intelligence on how to destroy the soulless killing machines that thrive in the Canadian wilderness...the Bear.
Allfather of Valhalla
Canadians see more UFOS.....
I'm Canadian, and I didn't see one, so that information is false.
contactismade
Actually there are thirty million Canadians.
m. Moe
QUOTE(uth @ Apr 13 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]1627115[/snapback]
How did this thread become about how popular a destination Canada is for UFOs? Hate to break it to you, but 736 is not a very large number, especially once you weed out the 85% misidentifications, that leaves just over 100 possbily genuine sightings for a population of 11 million. Sounds like Canada is hardly being visited to me.

33 million. rolleyes.gif Try to do a little research before posting random numbers.

QUOTE
Canadians still seeing UFOs, survey shows;
Saskatchewan posts an all-time record of 98 sightings last year.


I'd say a majority of those sightings could have been from way too much 'BC Bud' intake.

Hey, you never know, it is Saskatchewan. innocent.gif

lost_shaman
QUOTE(uth @ Apr 13 2007, 11:45 AM) [snapback]1627115[/snapback]
How did this thread become about how popular a destination Canada is for UFOs? Hate to break it to you, but 736 is not a very large number, especially once you weed out the 85% misidentifications, that leaves just over 100 possbily genuine sightings for a population of 11 million. Sounds like Canada is hardly being visited to me.


Well UAP are present globally. Yes that even includes Canada!
uth
QUOTE(MR_MOE @ Apr 14 2007, 03:59 PM) [snapback]1628680[/snapback]
33 million. rolleyes.gif Try to do a little research before posting random numbers.
Hey, you never know, it is Saskatchewan. innocent.gif


Actually I knew that, I know the Canadian population is about 11% of the US population. I just screwed up the calculation blush.gif

But anyway, that just drives my point home even further- 100 legit sightings out of a population of 33 million isn't very many at all.
dog soldier
It still baffles me. As soon as another country tries to explain sightings in Canada, an american has to interceed and be better....It will never end..We were talking about UFO's over Canada. Not the US. Yes, they are not exclusive to american soil. There are other Countries besides USA. And people wonder why..... Who cares how many are seen in Canada. The point should be they are seen over Canada also.
earthchick

QUOTE(dog soldier @ Apr 15 2007, 01:53 PM) [snapback]1630063[/snapback]
It still baffles me. As soon as another country tries to explain sightings in Canada, an american has to interceed and be better....It will never end..We were talking about UFO's over Canada. Not the US. Yes, they are not exclusive to american soil. There are other Countries besides USA. And people wonder why..... Who cares how many are seen in Canada. The point should be they are seen over Canada also.


APPLAUSE! APPLAUSE! APPLAUSE!


A lot of sightings here in Canada are never reported. The sighting I posted about when I first joined UM two years ago....a neighbour a mile up the road from me witnessed 4 triangular craft in his own back yard.......He has only discussed it with a couple of people and has never officially reported it. He doesn't like the idea of folks around here thinking he's crazy, or was drunk or stoned (he doesn't drink or do drugs and is one of the most level-headed people I know), so he has basically kept quiet about it. One wonders how many others like that there are. Many Canadians are not into sensationalism and lead quiet, hard-working lives. They don't like to bring attention to themselves.
uth
QUOTE(dog soldier @ Apr 15 2007, 04:53 PM) [snapback]1630063[/snapback]
It still baffles me. As soon as another country tries to explain sightings in Canada, an american has to interceed and be better....It will never end..We were talking about UFO's over Canada. Not the US. Yes, they are not exclusive to american soil. There are other Countries besides USA. And people wonder why..... Who cares how many are seen in Canada. The point should be they are seen over Canada also.


You completely misunderstand me. I was responding to all the messages that were implying that UFOs stopped visiting the US and were now swarming to Canada instead because its more peaceful there or something. Just pointing out that the data doesn't actually show that happening.

UFOs are a worldwide phenomenon, always have been. I never claimed that they were something exclusive to the US or anything else like that you tried to read into my message.
Osirian
Our craft have maple leafs on them.
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