Pyramids seem to be common in UFO culture. And for those reasons, I'll list where:

- The Pyramids, Aztec and Egyptian (usually considered constructed by aliens)
- Pyramid 'constructions' found on Mars
- "Pyramid Power" (not necessarily UFO-esque but still related)
- The Golden Ratio (found on the Pyramids as well as other constructions by cultures said to have contact with E.B.E.'s)
- The Men in Black (sometimes wearing the all-seeing eye on their lapels. Also said to wear eye of Horus symbols)
- The American Dollar (containing this symbol with the all-seeing eye)
- The Free Masons (carried this symbol as their tag)

It is apparent that E.T.'s are real, then it seems that they seem to have a connection with Pyramids. Even now, we do not exactly know how the pyramids were constructed and why. Is it that there is more to that shape than we know?

No. I find it absolutely improbable that ET's have ever been to Earth today, let alone thousands of years ago.

But why not? Can you explain your reasoning?

I don’t agree, the only people that ‘usually’ assume pyramids were constructed by aliens, are modern bigots that can’t accept that the ancients were just as smart and capable as modern humans... IMO



LINK-> The Egyptian Pyramid

Why do people assume that aliens built the pyramids?

But then why is it that after completing such an extraordinary task, they had in no way recorded how they did it. Yet, they recorded so much about the gods and goddesses.

it seems to be that if people can't explain how something was done they put it down to either the aliens or god. How lame!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyramid...native_theories

As you can see, no body really knows how the pyramids were actually constructed. And that the Great Pyramid dates before Egyptian culture.



Sirius and Orion being extremely popular in UFO culture as being the home to these extra-terrestrials.

lol coincidentally, I only find about these star shafts now.

Exactly!!! if the aliens had helped them build the pyramids there would be proof of that!! They would have recorded it over and over again if aliens had come down from space and decided to help them. They didn't document HOW they built them because to them it was no extraordinary feat! There is no proof, anywhere, that aliens helped build them. The only "proof" I have seen on the internet are a couple of photoshopped pictures and a hilarious one of a vase that people think is an alien because part of the pattern on it looks a bit like a grey's eyes!

This is an insult to the ancient people

But did they record it? Perhaps it was because they came after the great pyramid, or perhaps some of the others, had been created. Maybe that's why they didn't record it. Maybe that's why they seemed that it was so important for their gods to be recorded.

I agree with SAQ, I think the problem here is that the pyramids and similiar constructions look so enormous and gigantic to some people, they just can't believe it was build by men... Like SAQ said, do not underestimate the ancient people and their construction techniques!

I dont know who built the pyramids? seems such a feat would be documented. maybe the guys in the triangle ships built them? how did they cut the rocks so perfect?

But then, if you think of it logically, it does not seem that for a race like the ancient egyptians would have so much knowledge, and then somehow, they lost it, and only regained the knowledge they had back then in the future.

What I'm saying is that we would be more advanced, if we actually had the scientific knowledge back then. It doesn't add up to why such an intelligent race would suddenly just be equal to any other race and then have to re-study to gain it's previous intelligence. Are you saying that for some reason, the ancient egyptians, 'dumbed down'?

What other knowledge are you talking about other than the ability to build large structures?

ive been to Egypt and seen the pyramids close up.. the stones are very well cut and are precisely put into place. Even with all of the conspiracies about the pyramids i believe that man could of created them... NO ONE knoes for sure unless you build a time machine

Mathematics, Astrology, Technology, Military Tradition...basically, things that we've picked up only about 1500 or so years after the Ancient Egyptians.

you really need to do some research... what you don't know about the ancient Egyptians is remarkable...

LINK-> Building in Egypt; Pharaonic Stone Masonry

They could have 'dumbed down'. Think about genetics and what you get when a brother marries his sister. They have children, then those children marry their siblings. It is well documented that the Pharaoh would marry his sister, whether she was full or half, he had to marry someone of divine blood. So...it's very possible that they lost the knowledge because something more important came up-finding new bloodlines to marry that were divine enough.

The pyramids are a wonder to behold for sure. Even more so before they were stripped! But I think it's a pretty safe bet aliens did not help build them. The pyramids are tombs or burial portals for the next life. The Egyptians were really into death and preparing for it.

But it does make interesting reading, and a wonderful tale, or modern myth. More interesting then the plain truth that the Egyptians used slaves for many years to build them, and a lot of slaves died building them. Who wants to talk about that when we can wonder *what if* aliens helped! I'm sure the poor over worked slaves wished that aliens did help! There's never a alien around when you really need one!

you might want to do some research...

LINK-> Who Built the Pyramids?

So they're able to build houses and such. How did they manage to cut such percise bricks with such unstraight tools? It seems that the interior of the pyramid could have been built easily. But the pyramid structure by these simple tools. Khufu was not even a liked pharaoh of Egypt, nor were any moments made of have rather than three. His 'sarcophogus' was found with very little evidence of him being in it at some point. So the question is, is the theory of the pyramid actually true?

And the same can be said about the architects, the mathematicians and the constructors?

I did, and your point was? Certainly not this I hope,

"But graffiti from inside the Giza monuments themselves have long suggested something very different."

Key word *suggesting*

followed by no real alternative backed by no real proof

oh accept for this...
"..perhaps all levels of Egyptian society—were mobilized to enable the construction of the pyramids."

translation: SLAVE LABOR

You really think any of them had a choice?

Regards

LOL, semantics... I think the Egyptians were subjects of their kings, not slaves... IMO

I'd say definitely yes. I seem to remember that the position of the 'kings chamber' (think it was the king's not the queen's) is thought to be a position in the shape that has special 'powers'. That is...two thirds up the centre line on a north south alined pyramid.

It's a mundane example, but back in the 70's there was a lot of talk about razor blades...and that if they were kept in a pyramid shape (two thirds up the centre line, north south alined) that the blade would never go blunt...it would sharpen itself after use.
Pyramid shaped cartons of milk were said to keep the milk fresh. Not sure why they didn't take off commercially..probably the alinement necessity.

I know these are pretty daft examples (it's late where I am! I'm tired)...but I'm sure that the actual shape of pyramids is important...not to mention the sheer feat of constructing them.

The ancient Egyptians might have used them, but didn't necessarily build them.

This was actually proved wrong. I believe it was in Discovery's Mythbusters. This is called Pyramid Power. Personally, I don't think it's real, but maybe there's more to it.

I knew I'd regret saying about the razor blade thing! lol. I've had miniscule dealings with razor blades but I think that there was a thing that you shouldn't leave a razor blade in full moon light because reflected light has a polarity and the fine line of atoms?? at the edge of the blade could in effect, be pushed over and would go blunt. I presumed that there might be some kind of energy direction in the pyramid shape that moved in such a way to keep the edge sharp.

Anyway...I do, in theory believe in pyramid power...forget razor blades and milk...it's BIGGER than that.

I think that the measurements, shape and position are important and that the pyramids are truely an Unexplained Mystery!

I suggest furthur reading of Professor Lehner's & Zahi Hawass' excavations in the Giza plateau published by the University of Chicago's Oriental Institute. They found bakeries, beer breweries, sleeping barracks, & cemetaries of the pyramid builders. The 'kitchens' and the eating quarters provide a clear idea of the food provided for them: beef, fish etc..Records exist of even the farms furthur up the Nile where the cattle were raised .This is hardly the fare of Hollywood's down-trodden, whipped slaves. They were no more slaves than the builders of medieval cathedrals for example. Unskilled laborers were drafted during the flood season ,when their fields were submerged, to work in the Giza area. They were paid (in kind- no monetary economy at the time), housed, properly fed & had medical support ( skeletons showing evidence of healed injuries). The concept of slavery was introduced only by the 18th dynasty - one thousand years later- prisoners of war, but even they could own property which they passed down to their children. Finally, one of ancient Egypt's greatest achievements is largely ignored : the concept of equality & social justice. There is a text from a couple of centuries after the pyramids in which the creator god said " I created the great inundation so that the poor man might have his rights therein like the rich man, I created every man like his fellow".

As for the idea of alien builders , it contradicts the evidence & reminds me of the 'goua'old' of Stargate ! Why would advanced aliens travel all the way to Earth to build massive stone structures?

No thank you.

Whatever his claims might be, the excavations are real !

I have no doubt they are, but I've always felt he takes Occam's Razor far too seriously. Of course, I'm not alone in my opinion either. And at this point, with hardly ANY independent researchers/teams being allowed to conduct tests on-site with his claws fastened on them, it is highly likely that even less light will shine forth from Giza for some time to come.

I suppose it all depends what your definition of slavery is. You never anwsered my question, do you really think any of those "builders" had a choice in the matter? The whole population just loved Pharoh so much that they all volunteered to bust their freaking a's. I think a little common sense goes a long way, and while I won't diss any one's *opinions*, I believe these workers, call them slaves, call them private contractors, call them whatever you want, had very little choice in the matter.

I think what is important is to avoid imposing our own cultural values & interpretations on a totally different culture, then proceed to make value judgements accordingly. Realistically, it is impossible to know whether each individual 'worker' was content to go to the plateau, or did it grudgingly. The key word in your reply is "I believe". You are basing your belief ( I assume) on present day view points which would find it ridiculous or unacceptable for individuals to "volunteer to bust their freaking a's" for a collective project like building the pyramid. I will try not to turn my response into some kind of discourse about Ancient Egypt. There are few very crucial points to consider: the ecosystem which neccessitated a central authority to maintain & construct the hydraulic system upon which the survival of the whole nation depended. For the ancient Egyptians the monarchy was as old as the universe, established when the world was created & thus a part of the universal order. There was a social contract between the ruler & the ruled based on the concept of Ma'at which is not only justice, righteousness, truth, but also the order of creation as opposed to the chaos which preceeded it, down to the environment, regular floods etc.. As the Egyptologist Montet once said, the throne of Horus was probably never disgraced by a Nero. The king's power, though absolute, was never arbitrary He was responsible for the welfare of his citizens & for upholding justice for all, regardless of their class. When he failed, he was held accountable by his citizens & by himself. Read the story of the Eloquent Peasant, or for example the writings of Ipu-Wer who chastised his king by saying "authority, perception, & justice are with you (but) it is confusion which thou wouldst set throughout the land ..Does the herdsman love death..thou has acted to bring this ..into being , & thou hast spoken lies". Notice that the king was referred to as 'herdsman'. The pyramids should be looked upon more as a national social project, an undertaking to ensure that the dead king can still continue to maintain Maat & thus ensure the welfare of all. Maybe some went to work reluctantly, others with pride, however, all were well treated , fed, etc. Consider Snefru, the father of Khufu who built several pyramids but was beloved & worshipped by the people for generations afterwards.Finally, I think that it is most important that neither you nor I impose our beliefs on them but accept that ancient egyptians could have really believed in what they preached, that they were neither hapless slaves, hypocrites who said what they did not mean, nor cowards who were incapable of holding their rulers into account or revolting even. Listen to their own voices :" Give no special consideration to princes nor councilors, nor make slaves of any people whatsoever..look upon him whom you know as on him whom you do not know" Akhtoy II at 2120 BC taught his heir " Make thy memorial to last through the love of thee, give the love of thyself to the whole world; a good character is a remembrance..do not distinguish between the son of a noble & the man of humble birth..do not oppress the widow..do not strip a man of his father's possessions".

We do know how they where built and we also know why they built them, If you think about it how hard is it to lay one block on top of another until you reach the height you want to build too..I think it's sad that we keep giving alien's credit for the wonder's of egypt..

Christ almighty, where to start.

Hewa, again, another post where you seem to botch together as many out-moded "theories", dating usually from the 70s, together into one big mess.



Yup. "Usually". By who? By a few crackpots in the 70s and 80s. Find me a scientific paper that includes aliens as possible pyramid builders and I'll let this one drop. Ask yourself this - why fly all this way in a spaceship made of metal (presumably) just to build a massive building out of stone?

It. Makes. No. Sense.



Its not related to anything because it dones't exist, and there has never, ever been any proof to the contrary. Again, if you have some, share it. And I don't mean a link to a 'UFO Facts' website.



You mean the Egyptians, again. The golden ratio was used by everyone from the ancient greeks to De Vinci. In fact, Adolf Zeising discovered that everything from the proportions of the human body to the shape of crytals and the veins in a leave were based around the golden ratio. Nowt to do with aliens there.



As with greys and whatnot, there is no evidence for men in black to exist, none whatsoever. If you have some, and it ISN'T anecdotal evidence by some UFO nut, bring it forward. And why wouild they wear the "eye of Horus"? What possible relevance could this have to anything? You've been watching Stargate far too much.



From wiki:



And it isn't an "all seeing eye" - its the Eye of Providence, showing God is watching over the US. Nothing to do with aliens, its a religious symbol.



So? They're christian, and as I pointed out the eye is a christian symbol.

Hewa, you either need to do i) do some research before you post, ii) find some ideas that have been relevant since the 1970s or iii) both. Otherwise this board is just becoming a recycling ground for the same tired, out-moded, frankly ridiculous ideas.

hi,im not here to argue but i just want you all to answer these questions.

1.how did they bring the blocks to higher altitudes of the pyramid?
2.who came up with the idea of making the pyramids?
3.why?
4.why are pyramids have a lot of things to do with Aliens?

one more thing..im an Alien believer and i believe in extraterrestrial life from outer space.

I also believe in intelligent life from outer space too

excuse me, no offense but what the hell is the difference between your belief and assumptions and long winded reply that dances around the obvious to justify your own belief and assumption and mine? Or the writers you like to quote or the writers that believe otherwise? And don't even try telling me it's the *facts&, because the *facts* are subjective at best. Seems to me you and all the writers make assumptions and based on your own beliefs and then proceed to make arguements accordingly. Same as me of course, accept at least I'm honest enough to admit it and do not pretend I've uncovered some great new secret over looked for hundreds of years.

And you still have NOT anwsered my question,

DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY HAD A CHOICE????

I think a little common sense goes a long way.

Regards

If you're talking about the people who built the pyramids, then no. The pharoh was a living god - I don't think there would have been one person in the entire country who would have said "a big stone pyramid? We can't do that."

I am sorry my response was "long-winded", but I wanted to explain that the building of the pyramids cannot be viewed in isolation from the rest of the culture. I did not mean to dance, but only a wholistic approach could explain a phenomenon like the pyramids. However, you seem to be interested only in one make all break all aspect : "did they have a choice?" which apparently determines for you the whole question of slavery in ancient egypt! They most probably had no choice but with the absence of any records detailing how this choice or lack of it was dealt with, you & I , or anyone alse could be only coming up with guesses, educated ones or otherwise! For the sake of the argument, let us assume that they had no choice, does that constitute slavery? If your definition of slavery is being drafted without choice, then every army of the free world which drafted soldiers was an army of slaves! It is only recently that some of the modern armies stopped the draft, so before that, every soldier who was drafted by the army, sent to a training camp or battle without being asked if he agrees to that assignment or not, was a slave.As common as the draft was, the West is a community of slaves!!! Accordingly, centuries from now somebody can follow your lead in this quotation :"More interesting then the plain truth that the Egyptians used slaves for many years to build them, and a lot of slaves died building them. Who wants to talk about that when we can wonder *what if* aliens helped! I'm sure the poor over worked slaves wished that aliens did help! There's never a alien around when you really need one!" then somebody can say " More interesting then the plain truth that the USA , Western Europe & their allies used slaves for many years to defend them, and a lot of slaves died defending them/in their armies...I am sure the poor overworked slaves wished that aliens did help".

You said that I & all the writers made assumptions based on our beliefs & proceeded with arguments accordingly , & that "facts " are subjective at best ; yet you did not hesitate to STATE that 'slaves' built the pyramids & that a LOT of them died!!! Can you substantiate your asserted claims? How many people built the pyramid? How many of them died? What was their legal status? Were they renumerated? What is your definition of slave? What criteria do you use to differentiate between a slave, a serf, & a conscripted citizen? Do you have any proof to back up your answers -please other than Herodotus-? Facts are not subjective, their interpretation ,however, is. I cited quotations from ancient texts to prove the point I wanted to make, I was not aware these could be regarded as 'secret knowledge' overlooked for....& ..uncovered . This "knowledge' is available on the net for all. I studied with honest , academically rigorous Egyptologists & just get tired of "Hollywoodesque" stereotype which strips away the humane side of Ancient Egyptth....OOOPS....Another 'long winded' reply! Sorry, but I enjoy this discussion..now is your turn to 'stop dancing' & play ball

Best Regards

What about the Pyramids being alligned with Orion's belt? And I believe I also heard something about the Sphinx and the Leo Constellation........

Also, I have heard people say the Pyramid faces exactly true North (Whatever that is)

Just remember - it is amazing what a king who is considered a god can get done when he has practically unlimited amounts of slave labor!

Ooh, the wonders of slavery...

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Oh well, ....whatever ! If you can't beat em.....He can build pyramids in Egypt & Latin America, surround China with a great wall, hang gardens in Babylon, build the temple of Artemis at Ephesus ....even fight 2 world wars & stop the Nazis & Fascism...."Ooh, the wonders of slavery"..


On the other hand, The Egyptians, like other ancient cultures, were keen observers of the night skies which could explain the pyramid's similarity to Orion's belt. However, I have a question, why would a civilization that is advanced enough to travel at light speed, cross galaxies etc need to build huge stone monuments? I heard many theories about the pyramids or even the face on Mars but did not come across any hypotheses about the possible reasons aliens would have for building such monuments or their possible functions.

Whatever the reasons, once we find out the real answers, we're going to be completely blown away. I have a feeling they'll have very little to do with ancient Egypt at all.

[font="Arial Black"][/font] I think that the aliens helped man build the pyramids because when i researched about it I found a couple of pictures of walls inside a pyramid with carvings of two pharoes and on their laps there were two creatuers about the size of your waist and and large elongated head and they had quite long arms. In the same arcticle you can see a picture of 12 of these skulls almost identicle to the picture in egypt exept these were in peru with the other pyramids, so there for i conlcude that aliens if not created the pyramids but atleast helped to buil them.

LOL, Haven’t you ever heard of the G'ould?...

Mmmm, tricky one this.......not! lol
The Gisa plain pyramids were tombs-fact, human remains(bone fragments) have been found in a couple of sites in the great pyramid including the water chamber.(I am NOT including the later period cartonnage-coffined mummies found).
The culture of the Kemes was far removed from our own,we have grown up to the easy life. How can we try to understand the thinking behind a huge undertaking such as pyramid building, we are starting from entirely differing points?The fact is we can only speculate on their reasons, but nevertheless they built them. To say otherwise is an insult to an astounding people.
There may have been a pyramid construction group within Egypt that carried out the works, building more than one at a time, it's just an idea but it could explain how so many were made in such a short period.....Each King was buried in a finished one that he approved of. Maybe.
The pyramids were probably built from inside out/bottom up using simple levers(the more complex lifting machines speculated on by some scholars, would be hugely unstable on the upper tiers).Giant sand boxes could also have been used to introduce the larger granite monoliths, Block and tackle/levers then used for final positioning.
The use of ramps to my mind seems unlikely,-too much ramp not enough pyramid .
Finally then pyramid would be faced with white limestone this being finished from the top down.
The statements on pyramid'power' and chamber positioning all I can say is WTF!! The great pyramid is the only one on the plain that carries chambers so high in the superstructure, so if the positioning of the King's chamber was so important then why did the others have subterranian chambers only?
Please people, READ EXCAVATION REPORTS FOR YOURSELF then make up your own minds-I did
*Edited to add: UFO'S nah, people just worked blo*dy hard in those days*

I have no doubt that people built the Great Pyramid. But I'll tell you this: it wasn't humans that designed it. And I also don't think that the one at Giza was the first one either.

It was imenhotep the architect that designed it there is plenty of writen evidence Osirian. But we can always agree to disagree.