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santaclara
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...rce+UFO+Footage


I dont know what it is. It looks like a balloon at first, but then it disappears at an incredible rate of speed
Lilly
A prank/hoax perhaps? When the object finally zips off it looks very suspiciously like something CGI IMO.
Please Explain
QUOTE(santaclara @ Apr 15 2007, 12:58 PM) [snapback]1629827[/snapback]
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...rce+UFO+Footage
I dont know what it is. It looks like a balloon at first, but then it disappears at an incredible rate of speed

Even i'm not a rocket scientist, i could easily guessed it was an experimental craft.
There are flaps at the bottom and top sides and i noticed that when it try to speed up, it wobbled a bit.
Flaps should close first before you can speed up.
REBEL
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Whenever i see footage like that, it always leaves you with more questions than answers.
Curious to see what the die hard skeptics have to say bout this one.
Could it have been secret government testing of UFO tech & they possibly got careless on test times(eg candid amateur footage), maybe an et escaping the clutches of the government & making a mad dash for home or hell, just space bros looking for the best take out pizzas in the galaxy hence Italy.

lol! questions & speculations/speculations & questions blink.gif wacko.gif

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santaclara
Indeed, if it is an experimental craft...then is really "out there" as far a current known propulsion techonologies...according to the source, the video was taking by the 'Italian Air Force' I have to check more on this ..

uth
QUOTE(santaclara @ Apr 15 2007, 02:53 PM) [snapback]1629915[/snapback]
Indeed, if it is an experimental craft...then is really "out there" as far a current known propulsion techonologies...according to the source, the video was taking by the 'Italian Air Force' I have to check more on this ..



When the object is spinning and hovering, something about it looks more like a special effect than real. I think it was the way the light reflected off it. Just a gut feeling though.

It would be interesting to know the background though, because it appears that whoever shot it, was expecting the object.
lost_shaman
QUOTE(uth @ Apr 15 2007, 09:11 PM) [snapback]1630826[/snapback]
It would be interesting to know the background though, because it appears that whoever shot it, was expecting the object.


Yeah, I bet we can say that this wasn't from the Italian Air Force.

Compare to this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdyQu5Zx8xw&NR=1


uth
QUOTE(lost_shaman @ Apr 16 2007, 02:30 AM) [snapback]1630842[/snapback]
Yeah, I bet we can say that this wasn't from the Italian Air Force.

Compare to this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdyQu5Zx8xw&NR=1


What's that? Same incident shot from a different camera? Or is it the same footage cropped different and brighter?
lost_shaman
QUOTE(uth @ Apr 15 2007, 09:47 PM) [snapback]1630856[/snapback]
What's that? Same incident shot from a different camera? Or is it the same footage cropped different and brighter?


It's the same video.

Supposedly near Aviano AFB in Italy.

Here a poster states that it is from Paola Harris who was given a fourth generation copy.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread.../pg2#pid3034915

Exeter
Taking a cue from the posts beneath the first video, I did a search and found the following.

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QUOTE
The LML Aircraft is an ideal platform to carry the landmine sensors because of its unusual flight capabilities.

The LML can fly forward, backwards, and sideways at extremely low altitudes and at continuously slow speeds as well as hover, fly vertically up and down, and rotate 360 degrees while flying in any direction.

In addition, the LML is a stable platform because the aircraft does not bank while turning, climbing or descending. Also, the LML has virtually minimal vibration.


Source

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They do look similar, and as someone stated, the raised areas on the "craft" in the video may be engine modifications.

And BTW, the landmine locator is essentially a balloon with directional motors, and the object (to me at least) seems to behave like one. When it zooms off at the end, again as someone suggested it appears as though the video has been tampered with.

I'm not calling this solved, just giving my opinion.

MUM24/7
Who ever was flying it, looked like they were drunk......

Same goes for who ever was holding the remote control...... wacko.gif
REBEL
If it was remote-controlled, how does it explain the lightning speed @ which it took off @ the end of the footage?

If it was remote controlled, my 10 yo son would go w00t.gif to get his hands on one, come to think of it i would'nt mind one myself. devil.gif

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santaclara
The two videos are the same....the only puzzler here like Rebel says, is how it takes off at lighting speed at the end, it could be special effects..
isis-999
Anytime i see a video like that it makes me wonder, if this was a real UFO why didn't the mass media pick that film up and run with it, You know thier rating's would go off the chart and anymore thats all they care about.....
Mad Manfred
That looks so fake...like someone holding a mobile phone with an unsteady hand while he dangles a model UFO in front of the camera with some fishing wire.
Cherus
i live in italy and havent heard anything of it no.gif

AND those mountains look like the ones i live in but i cant be sure... it odd i havent seen anything but it might be experimental craft that we have no idea on
Exeter
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Apr 16 2007, 04:43 AM) [snapback]1631211[/snapback]
Anytime i see a video like that it makes me wonder, if this was a real UFO why didn't the mass media pick that film up and run with it, You know thier rating's would go off the chart and anymore thats all they care about.....


I agree Isis. Whatever this object is (CGI, etc.), if it was genuinely ET in nature the video wouldn't be a lowly little clip on the internet.
:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR:
QUOTE(Exeter @ Apr 16 2007, 07:53 AM) [snapback]1631221[/snapback]
I agree Isis. Whatever this object is (CGI, etc.), if it was genuinely ET in nature the video wouldn't be a lowly little clip on the internet.


Very true. For what it's worth, it would be convincing by many though.
uth
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Apr 16 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]1631211[/snapback]
Anytime i see a video like that it makes me wonder, if this was a real UFO why didn't the mass media pick that film up and run with it, You know thier rating's would go off the chart and anymore thats all they care about.....


Simple
1) They don't know about it
or
2) They don't want to get burned should it turn out to be fake
Colbert Nation
Yes I'm sure it's an unknown experimental secret aircraft which was flown and allowed to be tapped in broad daylight...and of course then posted on the internet...that makes perfect sense.

outsider75
looks more like an nuts an bolts craft. like something that would be made here. specially with what looks to be flaps.
flyinghigh23
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Apr 16 2007, 10:43 AM) [snapback]1631211[/snapback]
Anytime i see a video like that it makes me wonder, if this was a real UFO why didn't the mass media pick that film up and run with it, You know thier rating's would go off the chart and anymore thats all they care about.....

Because, IMO, the government has complete control over the same satellites that the media use and can control what they can and cannot put on the air.
lost_shaman
QUOTE(flyinghigh23 @ Apr 17 2007, 05:14 AM) [snapback]1632967[/snapback]
Because, IMO, the government has complete control over the same satellites that the media use and can control what they can and cannot put on the air.


I don't agree in this case.

For instance can anyone tell me the pedigree for this video? ( No,... Didn't think so!)

Is it consistent with 400 years of UAP reports? (No,... well then what does that tell you?)





Now that's not to say that you're wrong about the Mainstream Media however, the Church Committee Reports show beyond all reasonable doubt that U.S. Intelligence agencies do employ the Mainstream Media, not only overseas, but also here in the U.S. as well.

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/church/r...ts/contents.htm

flyinghigh23
QUOTE(lost_shaman @ Apr 17 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]1632971[/snapback]
I don't agree in this case.

For instance can anyone tell me the pedigree for this video? ( No,... Didn't think so!)

Is it consistent with 400 years of UAP reports? (No,... well then what does that tell you?)


You have me confused- so you don't agree that the government has control over what the media broadcasts?
lost_shaman
QUOTE(flyinghigh23 @ Apr 17 2007, 05:36 AM) [snapback]1632975[/snapback]
You have me confused- so you don't agree that the government has control over what the media broadcasts?



No, let me repeat my above edit.



Now that's not to say that you're wrong about the Mainstream Media however, the Church Committee Reports show beyond all reasonable doubt that U.S. Intelligence agencies do employ the Mainstream Media, not only overseas, but also here in the U.S. as well.

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/church/r...ts/contents.htm


The U.S. is the only country on Earth where every major News Organization has an Intel correspondent. The Editor of the Wash. Post even said on 3/30/07 that the comments on WP.com get monitored in real time for Intel leaks.



John A Spera
QUOTE(Cherus @ Apr 16 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]1631216[/snapback]
i live in italy and havent heard anything of it no.gif

AND those mountains look like the ones i live in but i cant be sure... it odd i havent seen anything but it might be experimental craft that we have no idea on


Hello Cherus,

It is my understanding that Italy is one of four countries capable of developing anti-gravity vehicles. England, Russia, and the USA are the other three. I forget where I read this information however it felt accurate to me. Since I am 1/2 italian on my father's side, I have always hoped Italy would lead the field with the use of this UFO technoligy.

John
Lt_Ripley
cgi ? why no sound ?
Cherus
QUOTE(John A Spera @ Apr 17 2007, 03:40 PM) [snapback]1633246[/snapback]
Hello Cherus,

It is my understanding that Italy is one of four countries capable of developing anti-gravity vehicles. England, Russia, and the USA are the other three. I forget where I read this information however it felt accurate to me. Since I am 1/2 italian on my father's side, I have always hoped Italy would lead the field with the use of this UFO technoligy.

John

Do you remember where you heard this info? because it would be nice to know but i dont really think Italy could bring this tech to the world because of our government but none the less it would be cool tongue.gif
Mr.Dot
Maybe the makers of Toy Story had some fun? Looks like a toy and animated laugh.gif Anyways, nicely done but not real. I guess the videos will only get more and more relastic by time. And that is sad somehow...
John A Spera
QUOTE(Cherus @ Apr 18 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]1634937[/snapback]
Do you remember where you heard this info? because it would be nice to know but i dont really think Italy could bring this tech to the world because of our government but none the less it would be cool tongue.gif


Sorry I do not recall exactly where it was. It was channeled material in a spiritual context. I look at quite a bit of information like this. I did get a good feeling about Italy being a bigger player in world events in the years to come along the South Africa.

As I see it, Italy is more open minded and has much to gain from this technoligy. The other country's have much to lose because there are those in power who profit greatly from existing methods. For that reason alone, I suspect your government would wish to QUIETLY develope anti-gravity technoligy.

At least I can Hope they would and yes it would be cool.

conspiracysrus
not since charlie chaplin have i seen such a primitive film laugh.gif we all know that camera trickery can do almost anything nowadays, and the way that thing moved im surprised the little insect looking pilot (aliens always look like insects) didnt get arrested for drink driving.
absolute poppy ****!!
REBEL
QUOTE(John A Spera @ Apr 18 2007, 01:10 AM) [snapback]1633246[/snapback]
Hello Cherus,

It is my understanding that Italy is one of four countries capable of developing anti-gravity vehicles. England, Russia, and the USA are the other three. I forget where I read this information however it felt accurate to me. Since I am 1/2 italian on my father's side, I have always hoped Italy would lead the field with the use of this UFO technoligy.

John

How goes it John, i'm of full Italian heritage(Aussie born)good to meet ya 'uomo del paese del collega'(fellow countryman) thumbsup.gif


I thought the Italians already mastered anti-gravity UFO technology? ... the Ferrari F-40 & the Lamborghini Diablo! laugh.gif grin2.gif


later 'amico'(friend) thumbsup.gif
Cherus
QUOTE(REBEL @ Apr 19 2007, 04:18 AM) [snapback]1636328[/snapback]
How goes it John, i'm of full Italian heritage(Aussie born)good to meet ya 'uomo del paese del collega'(fellow countryman) thumbsup.gif
I thought the Italians already mastered anti-gravity UFO technology? ... the Ferrari F-40 & the Lamborghini Diablo! laugh.gif grin2.gif
later 'amico'(friend) thumbsup.gif

Per caso ti chiami Luca? lol
captain pish
This is TOOO fake. With the populatiry and decreasing costs of producing CGI many kids can now venture into this line of work at college or university. It is probably a project made by such a person. I have seen a lot of this type of thing latley and the CGI is no longer crude or obvious like it used to be. This kind of stuff can be done by students at this point and no longer takes expert companies to produce such effects.The way the camera reacts to the UFO is very suspicious. It stuggles keeping the UFO central and is way off the mark when it starts moving. It looks way too fake.
REBEL
Hmm yea maybe... I'm not disputing the footage is genuine or not, but with how far we've come in the 'advancement of video imagery & the technology' thats associated with it & when you take into consideration how many sightings & video footage has been actually taken out there(hundreds maybe thousands around the world)...it's possible that a high percentage are 'professionally hoaxed'.

So my question is how would we ever know or better yet be able to even tell & or spot the difference in what is actually genuine & what is 'professionally hoaxed'??...in that regard alone from the viewer's(us)point of view, it sounds more like an impossibility than an improbability.
captain pish
I agree! The only kind of indisputable evidence we will get of anything paranormal is a corpse or living specimin. I think that the proof of ghosts is nigh on impossible. Looking at todays CGI and how easy it is for anyone who practices it to pull off a near flawless video, id say that we are going to get fooled a hell of of lot in the coming years. Such a shame that people would hinder otherwise respectable footage. Anything that looks convincing will no longer be taken for evidence as there will always be a chance that it has been manufactured.
lost_shaman
QUOTE(captain pish @ Apr 21 2007, 06:35 AM) [snapback]1639853[/snapback]
The only kind of indisputable evidence we will get of anything paranormal is a corpse or living specimin.


No. You see "paranormal" specifically means outside the realm of Science.

In other words a "corpse" or "living specimen" would never be considered "Paranormal".




John A Spera
QUOTE(REBEL @ Apr 21 2007, 07:31 AM) [snapback]1639733[/snapback]
So my question is how would we ever know or better yet be able to even tell & or spot the difference in what is actually genuine & what is 'professionally hoaxed'??...in that regard alone from the viewer's(us)point of view, it sounds more like an impossibility than an improbability.


Some use and trust their Discernment for things like this. I think we all have a 6th sense to some degree. The more a person works with their feeling and their logical sides of the brain in a balanced way, the more this skill can be developed.

Generally speaking, once a person has activated Both and then used or applied the insights, their discernment for hoaxes and for those that lie is higher. I would say at a subconscious level, we know much more than at a conscious level. Its my view the 6th sense is being more in touch with the subconscious and the energies around us.

John
isis-999
The fact is this video is really bad.....
REBEL
QUOTE(John A Spera @ Apr 21 2007, 11:14 PM) [snapback]1639933[/snapback]
Some use and trust their Discernment for things like this. I think we all have a 6th sense to some degree. The more a person works with their feeling and their logical sides of the brain in a balanced way, the more this skill can be developed.

Generally speaking, once a person has activated Both and then used or applied the insights, their discernment for hoaxes and for those that lie is higher. I would say at a subconscious level, we know much more than at a conscious level. Its my view the 6th sense is being more in touch with the subconscious and the energies around us.

John

Nicely put John.
I guess in the end the '6th sense/subconscious' level is all we have left to rely on in situations such as this...i'm still having trouble tapping into mine though. lol!


Later. thumbsup.gif

dixiepixie
QUOTE(Cherus @ Apr 18 2007, 07:06 AM) [snapback]1634937[/snapback]
Do you remember where you heard this info? because it would be nice to know but i dont really think Italy could bring this tech to the world because of our government but none the less it would be cool tongue.gif



Cherus you say that your government may not be capable. However aren't there U.S. Airforce Bases in Italy? The U.S. is having a time testing experimental craft here in the states due to the media coverage. My question is if not the Italian government, could it be the U.S., or another country with a military base nearby?? Just a thought.

Brightest Blessings,
Dixi
contactismade
bad video? good video?
How can anyone tell with any certainty?
Has anyone seen a real video with a real UFO?
absolutely confirmed and real?
The answer is of course no. This is not to debate the existence it just makes a point. The point being that no one can for certain say if it is real or fake because there is no example to point to compare to. This could very well be real, we jsut don't have any way of knowing though. My firts instinct was CGI as well. But what will the first real footage of a ufo look like, can anyone say for sure. When it does happen 90%of the world will think it is fake as well until it is proven real to them. so this creates sorta a problem doesn't it?
Cherus
QUOTE(dixiepixie @ Apr 21 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]1640016[/snapback]
Cherus you say that your government may not be capable. However aren't there U.S. Airforce Bases in Italy? The U.S. is having a time testing experimental craft here in the states due to the media coverage. My question is if not the Italian government, could it be the U.S., or another country with a military base nearby?? Just a thought.

Brightest Blessings,
Dixi

to answer your question yes there are several american bases in italy but i dont really know if they are testing experimental craft of some sort...But you could be righ, maybe it wasnt an italian craft but an american????
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