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Tenkay
WERE THESE PEOPLE JUST CRAZY HICKS OR IS THEIR STORY LEGIT?


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On September 12, 1952, three boys in the tiny West Virginia town of Flatwoods saw a slow-moving, reddish sphere sail
around a hill, hover briefly, and drop behind the crest of another hill. From the other side a bright glow shone, as if from a
landed object. On their way to investigate, the boys were joined by beautician Kathleen May, her two young sons, their
friend Tommy Hyer, 17-year-old Eugene Lemon, and Lemon's dog.

The dog ran ahead of the group and was briefly out of sight. Suddenly it was heard barking furiously and, moments later,
seen fleeing with its tail tucked between his legs. A foul-smelling mist covered the ground and caused the searchers' eyes
to water. The two leading the group, Lemon and Neil Nunley, who go to the top first, looked down and observed a "big ball
of fire" 50 feet to their right. Another of the witnesses reported it was the size of a house.

To the group's left, on the hilltop and just under the branch of an oak tree, were two small lights. At Mrs. May's suggestion,
Lemon turned his flashlight on them. To everyone's considerable astonishment, the beam highlighted a grotesque-looking
creature with a head shapes like the "ace of spades," as several of the observers independently described it. Inside the
head was a circular "window," dark except for the two lights from which pale blue beams extended straight ahead. In their
short observation of the creature, the group saw nothing that looked like arms or legs.

The creature, which appeared to be over six feet tall, moved toward the witnesses; it seemed to be gliding rather than
walking. Seconds later it changed direction, turning toward the glowing ball down the hill. All of this allegedly took place in a
matter of seconds, during which Lemon fainted. The others dragged him away as they ran from the scene.

When interviewed half an hour later by A. Lee Stewart, Jr., of The Braxton Democrat, most of the witnesses were barely
able to speak. Some sought first aid. Stewart thought there was no question they had seen something that badly frightened
them. Soon afterwards, he was able to get Lemon to accompany him to the hillside, where Stewart noticed an unusual odor
in the grass that irritated his nose and throat. Returning to the site alone it seven o'clock the following morning, he found
"skid marks" going down the hill and toward an area of matted grass, indicating the recent presence of a large object.

The encounter with what the press would quickly dub the "Flatwoods monster" took place during a flurry of sightings of
unusual flying objects in the area. One man, Bailey Frame of nearby Birch River, told of seeing a bright orange ball circling
over the area where the monster was reported. The object was visible for 15 minutes before shooting toward the airport a
Sutton, where it was also seen. According to one account, a week before the Flatwoods event and 11 miles away, a
Western woman and her mother encountered the same or a similar creature as they were driving to church. Both reported
it emitted a foul odor, and the younger woman was so frightened that she required hospitalization. This report, if true, never
made the newspapers. It was uncovered by two investigators associated with the Los Angeles-based Civilian Saucer
Investigation.

Skeptics theorized that May and her companions had seen a meteor and an owl, and only hysteria had caused them to
think they had observed anything else. Nonetheless, when interviewed separately shortly after the incident, the witnesses
told a story investigators found strikingly consistent. Skeptical hypotheses have necessarily had to reject a priori the
witnesses' descriptions of what they saw.

A Joliette, Quebec, woman reported seeing a similar creature as it gazed through a window of her home in the early
morning hours of November 22, 1973. She roused her husband, who went outside to investigate, finding only a dog which
acted as if "scared to death." The local police said they though the woman was sincere.
uth
This is one of those weird, long-forgotten stories.

I think they described this creature as something more mechanical, like a robot or an alien in a suit. Also, it was reported to be closer to 10 feet tall, not 6. They used the height of a branch to estimate the height.

The leading skeptical theory is that they saw an owl and a meteor. They tried to explain Hopkinsville/Kelly the same way (funny how glowing owls just happen to be in the vicinity of a meteor strike) I'm not buying that unless someone can show me a 10 foot tall owl.
sbradj
lotta moonshine steels in these parts back then..interesting story never heard of it myself...if anyone knows anything about Wv is theres not many hills here just big mtns..find it odd the story didnt draw more attention than what it has...nonetheless its still an interesting read.
uth
QUOTE(sbradj @ Apr 16 2007, 02:25 AM) [snapback]1630835[/snapback]
lotta moonshine steels in these parts back then..interesting story never heard of it myself...if anyone knows anything about Wv is theres not many hills here just big mtns..find it odd the story didnt draw more attention than what it has...nonetheless its still an interesting read.


I think it did draw alot of attention. You can find this story in many UFO books. It also happened in 1952, which was one of the biggest UFO flap years ever, so it could have gotten lost in that.
Colbert Nation
QUOTE(uth @ Apr 15 2007, 08:48 PM) [snapback]1630805[/snapback]
They tried to explain Hopkinsville/Kelly the same way (funny how glowing owls just happen to be in the vicinity of a meteor strike) I'm not buying that unless someone can show me a 10 foot tall owl.


http://www.pendercreatives.com/threeonthet...ntern-02043.jpg

EmpressStarXVII
We'z all a buncha crazy hicks here. Aint got a lick of sense! rolleyes.gif.

I never heard this story before. Probably an owl like the article suggested.
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QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 16 2007, 12:37 AM) [snapback]1630901[/snapback]


LOL! laugh.gif I think uth just got pwned!
uth
QUOTE(:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR: @ Apr 16 2007, 03:10 PM) [snapback]1631492[/snapback]
LOL! laugh.gif I think uth just got pwned!


No, that's an owl costume, not an owl. The skeptical explanation doesn't say anything about someone in costume.

It also doesn't explain how it could float.
isis-999
QUOTE(sbradj @ Apr 15 2007, 10:25 PM) [snapback]1630835[/snapback]
lotta moonshine steels in these parts back then..interesting story never heard of it myself...if anyone knows anything about Wv is theres not many hills here just big mtns..find it odd the story didnt draw more attention than what it has...nonetheless its still an interesting read.



I'm from WV and this story never really took off.....


{quote}Tenkay Posted Yesterday, 03:29 PM
WERE THESE PEOPLE JUST CRAZY HICKS OR IS THEIR STORY LEGIT?


There are alot of people from WV here and we are not HICK's sweetie.......
magnetar
Not moonshine. Just a story that is too unique to convince the world. Why don't such devices land more places?


http://sites.eoi.com/folder5715/index.cfm?...e&pageid=24
Tenkay
i dont know what it is, but anybody who confuses an owl with something that looks like that is a HICK in my book!
leadbelly
"Now, it didn’t have arms. The drawing showed arms, but it didn't. It looked like something like antenna sticking out from it, between the body and the head” MRS. KATHLEEN MAY.

Hmmm...

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Hmmm...

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lost_shaman
QUOTE(leadbelly @ Apr 17 2007, 03:14 AM) [snapback]1632894[/snapback]
"Now, it didn’t have arms. The drawing showed arms, but it didn't. It looked like something like antenna sticking out from it, between the body and the head” MRS. KATHLEEN MAY.

Hmmm...

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Amazingly I see at least one Arm and NO Antennas!
graybeard
Okay, I've responded to on person today on another thread about the constant slurs towards anyone who dares to live in a rural area of America. What is this?

Is it because you're afraid to use the N word? Afraid to gay bash? Don't want to piss off Poland?Owe money to someone who is named Abraham? All you've got left is to make stupid and uncalled for remarks towards those who CHOOSE to live somewhere besides an urban area.

You may not realize it, as a matter of fact, I'm sure you don't, but you're still the same bigoted ass you always were. All you do is change the target to be politically correct. Sadly, the only people in America that are left to be abused with impunity are us "hillbillys".

You ought to ashamed the next time you hear an ethnic slur to realize that you too are just the same type of vermin.

Don't bother banning me, if this is the hight of intellectual prowess that can be found here, then I won't be back. Not because a small minority of the people here speak for everyone, but because the PMs seem to feel this is acceptable. If this is the future of this site, then it is not a place for me. Nor is a way to enhance the reputation of this forum.

If a Pm feels I have in some way wronged them, you have my email address, and I will not block it in some childish attempt to get the last word/ But I doubt there is any defense for this lack of leadership.
outsider75
i feel ya greybeard. most people have to find away to down somebody to make themselves look better. I hear it all the time since i live in Alabama. we are stereotyped as backwards people even though we lead the nation in home land security training, hospital training as well as world leading doctors , but were all rednecks who drink our sweet tea and watch the dukes of hazzard after the grand ole oprey goes off. Thats cool to me because at my job i know that 99% of all business owners in 99% of big business went to either the University of Alabama or Auburn or were from Alabama originally. I just let em talk no need to correct the ignorant upstarts who know not were they came from or of their past.
Bob26003
Interesting........ This is what the Mothman Prophecies movie was about right?

BTW, I live in WV too. There are some hicks here....... But not everyone wink2.gif
cascinova
So what if you got called a hillbilly....Who cares? I am from western PA, and i used to hear more jokes about west virginians than I can remember, but its all in good fun. Thats just life, people are people and we will always sterotype someone. I bet if you spent your life growing up in rural america you would be just as quick to sterotype people from the city.

Dont get so worked up over nothing....
floydtheater07
QUOTE(Bob26003 @ Apr 18 2007, 05:01 AM) [snapback]1634805[/snapback]
Interesting........ This is what the Mothman Prophecies movie was about right?

BTW, I live in WV too. There are some hicks here....... But not everyone wink2.gif




Nah, "The Mothman Prophecies" was about an entirely different incident.
graybeard
I am sorry to all those that I may have angered with my post about narrow minded bigots. I am aware that the perception for most of the world is that hicks and hillbillys are some inbred offshoot of humanity. Still, I take offense.

I have no idea, nor do I really care, the ethnic position of other posters. Nor do I refer to the location of a poster, or story, as being less worthy due to the 'local color'. By the same act of civilized conduct, I extend to all the equal right as humans in this forum. In the first idea of this thread, the discussion was on the report. That is where it should focus.

But be warned, to those who would speak in haste, I will return venom for venom. I for one will not tolerate that abuse which is politically correct, in these pages , or any other. And if I offend the masses, so be it. I have left my door open to the PMs, and if they felt I was out of line, they should have spoken.

Return to the subject, and let us all be aware that our words are never idle.


This was an account by people with little or no outside influence. As such, it is valuable in that they may have distorted it to the ideas and perceptions of their time and place in society, yet, they had no bias in their statements. In other words, they had no preconceived notion of how to describe an event of this caliber. Therefore, for all it's lack of sophistication, it is a description of events untarnished by all the modern myth that surrounds UFOs.

It should be looked into, even at this late stage.
outsider75
ya know i never thought of connecting the Mothman to this sighting but it kinda fits doesn't it? that might throw a whole new angle to it.
xbrendnx
i'm from burnsville, wv. it's about 15 mins. away from flatwoods. i was really surprised (and amused) to see the flatwoods monster story on here. like someone above mentioned, it's one of those rural america stories (there are lots of them, too) that really doesn't get told. it really was a big deal back then, but without the internet and such to spread the word it was pretty much lost in all the other weird stuff that was happening at the time. i can't say if it's true or not, but most of the older people in and around the area seem to believe it wholeheartedly. a lot of them knew people that were involved, and knew them to not be liars. there are a lot of stories like this. i know one myself. i'm not good at storytelling and stuff, so i'll just tell you what happened. one night in the summer of 84 or 85.. not sure which.. everyone that lived on my road (yes, a dirt road.. or a "holler" if you prefer.. rolleyes.gif ) went outside to look at a ufo. my parents said i looked with them, but i don't remember it. i was a little too young. it was big and round and had lots of lights and stayed above the little valley for about 1 1/2 hrs. before leaving. it didn't make any noise at all and was pretty close to the ground, slightly higher than the hills around my house. it didn't do anything crazy, it just hovered there. right before it left, a smaller one came from around the hill and entered the big one. my mom said that the craziest thing was that they could hear the little one making noised, but the big one was silent. and when it left it didn't make a noise. my parents aren't liars and my neighbors have mentioned it a couple times. i don't see any reason not to believe them. it didn't make the paper, or news or anything. no one really mentioned it to other people. really no reason to go looking like some dingbat running around saying that the aliens were here. my point is... i wonder how many sightings there are like that. too many to discount, i'd bet.
ufo guy
the ufo was called a foofighter it was comenly seen during ww1 yes.gif
graybeard
Xbrendemx, You are right. Most 'simple people', that is those who are not trying to advance themselves, and who are happy with life, tend not to report UFOs. Sure,they speak of it with family and such. but most don't think the government cares.

I know, I was born at Clarksburg, middle of the 20th century. I would guess that for every report that makes it 'out', there are 10 to 20 that don't. People who never lived in that area fail to understand just how private these folks are. About everything.

Any flatlanders that want to go tell these folks that what their kin told about seeing something was a big lie, well, have at it. But before you go, do you mind if I take out a life insurance policy on you? I need the extra cash.
earthchick
I wonder if any of the younger witnesses are still alive? They might have a better understanding of what they saw today, in light of today's technology. Regardless, I'm sure all them would have known an owl when they saw one. From the description it does sound more robotic than like a living being.


QUOTE(graybeard @ Apr 17 2007, 04:35 PM) [snapback]1633627[/snapback]
Is it because you're afraid to use the N word? Afraid to gay bash? Don't want to piss off Poland?Owe money to someone who is named Abraham? All you've got left is to make stupid and uncalled for remarks towards those who CHOOSE to live somewhere besides an urban area.


Last night I was reading in a thread elsewhere on UM and someone used the term "queer". It was not used in reference to any person, but in reference to a video game character. Even so, I couldn't believe nothing was said to the poster, as some people would find that terribly offensive.


QUOTE(ufo guy @ Apr 21 2007, 11:53 AM) [snapback]1639975[/snapback]
the ufo was called a foofighter it was comenly seen during ww1 yes.gif


WW1 wasn't during the 1980s.....
outsider75
and foo fighters were not reported till the 40's during WW2.
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