i was thinking lately, "What if we were put on here and people are observing us from above like lab rats....and they are seeing that we are developing ways of travel outside the earth and are scared?" lol
tell me what u think honestly

I think that life is a prep for the greater life beyond. Lab rats maybe. If thats all we are then thats sad and depressing.

We may even just be the equivalent of the carrots in front of the donkey

Not really sad, but definitely sobering. So far, with recent developments and discoveries made in the areas of quantum physics and the sciences, evolution of our kind has shown that our kind seems to know no ceiling or limits. Instead of a lab experiment, I prefer to think of it as a young but nurtured relationship, like a new parent and its child - a very quickly growing and curious child.

Only two questions, what is the purpose of the experiment and is there a variable?

I am not sure it is an experiment and I don't think there is a variable - maybe everything is planned right down to the last detail, everything to perfection even though we can't see it.

For all we know, we could all be here to learn something that is right under our noses, the trick is discovering just what it is.

No good asking me mind, I've been wondering for eons LOL

Everything to PERFECTION, sure about that? lol anyway, to me God is better than being lab rats.

Are you talking about Aliens or the Government?

God would not have sent his only son Jesus Christ to die for the sins of lab rats...

Lab rats? Maybe an ant farm for aleins. ALIEN ANT FARM!! lol

Yes, we are. Of the corporations.

Maybe southpark is right, and we're here for their entertainment. Maybe they planned the evolution of our society and the nuclear appocalypse that is to come. Or maybe not. Everything has to have a reason, if aliens no of us then we have to ask, what's ours?

wow a lot of u guys got funny answers

According to your avatar, would you say we crack you up?

In the old days... they thought we were pawns of the Gods... they could try to influence us... throw obstacles into the game... but ultimately it was up to us,our free will, our intent,, our gumption... that decided the outcome...

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Theology-Greek-Gods-Myths.htm

http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/showflat....;o=&fpart=1

The new age version is, to try and move into the direction you wish to go... visualize... take positive steps... sees what was once seen as the influences..of the Gods.. as challenges... moulding ,... building our characters... there is the idea of our Higher selves.. assuming that our earthly bodies only encapsulates a holographic portion of our soul...a learning...experiential tool... That each body is a gift for the soul.. to learn more about itself ..it's capabilities... so in the new version of reality... we , the earthly human ,is a tool of our higher selves.. the.. eg.. a portion of our soul... which goes towards the new age 'I AM ' we are all gods idea...

Where do governments and aliens fit into this angle??? they are the middle men... part of the obstacles... Why isn't our higher self intervening??? it is... note gut feelings.. synchronisities??? we ask ... pray... and we receive... in ways that we can handle it in this/our present reality....


Just a personal idea of how things work... I'd welcome other opinions.....


http://www.helleniccomserve.com/lefkowitzspeech.html

My thoughts on the matter resonate quite well with that CS.

I'm confused crystal sage. What exactly is your religion? What do you believe? Anyway, once we become aware of aliens, I think they will either be really good or really bad. If they are watching us, maybe their good. But maybe there is a war going on out there bigger then anything we can imagine, and they just don't really care that much about earth. Neither side wants to recruit us because their afraid that being new to intergalactic travel, we'll screw something up, get some people captured and info revealed(chances are they have something more advanced then torture for info retrieval). There are many reasons some of them come here. Maybe their runaways and want to disguise as one of us or maybe they are scientists. Who knows?

I heard there were several types of aliens from different star systems etc... some good.. some not so good..

http://www.zerotime.com/ufo/types.htm

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread274540/pg1

found this though that was interesting.... though not quite on topic...

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...p;search=Search




as to my religion... I was born Catholic... but am now exploring it on my own terms... and a lot of synchronistic guidance.

born catholic? or raised Catholic? you mentioned something about higher selves?

born and raised Catholic... but was uncomfortable with all the hate.. revenge..jealousy...killing... lack of compassion ...that was taught from the bible... then at school during history and religon at highschool, when I learned how many people were tortured... killled in the name of God... I stopped liking this person I was taught that God was... and the idea of religion... I recall thinking at the age of say 11 or 12 ... that God and the various religous organizations that were created in his and Jesus's name weren't an organization that I wanted to belong to... I waited to see if I was going to be struck down by lightening by thinking this... and I wasn't... I began thinking that maybe there was another God that people here ahd over looked...

I always felt there was something out there,up there though that was loving and kind.....I could sometimes feel it... sort of like angelic presences... It wasn't until I was turning 30 that I started exploring other religions...( mainly because of the ingrained fear of God that the Catholic religion instilled in me... and learning about all those who went outside their religion... how god allowed many of his followers die in the most horrible way... including his own Son Jesus... what could happen to me... or my family???)
It was just before when by Dad got struck down with cancer and that he shared some of his books with me that I began to explore further...mainly by looking for ways to help him...and also nudged by lots of paranormal things that started to happen.. that I started to have the courage to explore spirituality further.....

Maybe we're the organic equivalent of a SIMS video game except we're programmed to figure it out. When we do we self-destruct.

Crap. Guess what that means?

Maybe you get to hang around to awaken the rest of us...

http://www.newswithviews.com/Yates/steven.htm
http://www.2012.com.au/real_matrix.html

"Morpheus": Do you want to know WHAT...it...is?

Some godly organic virus have wipe the self destruct code long ago and has now become your consciousness. Its up to you now to create more organic plugins and modules to advance yourself. Main obstacle, your fears.

You will not self destruct. Eat read and exercise regularly and keep your conciousness healthy.

Why would they want to watch us like lab rat's, If they are that advance they have already fugured out what ever they could learn from watching us.....Maybe they just come here waiting to see how long it take's us to destroy the planet....

or if we are advanced enough yet to join their Gallactic Federation!!

I think it's safe to say we not......

Wow ! What a thought.

We are more like cattle than lab rats.

If one poses the question of the existance of UFOs, and the reason behind them, and then wonders if this whole world is a virtual game, I might ask this.

Was Einstein created, nurtured, and coaxed to arrive at his level of contribution and influence? Or, was he just another facet of the "hydrogen experience", which more-or-less can be explained through scientific understanding?

The Universe seems to be a closed system, a conserved system. Even, considering virtual particle feedback. The question then becomes, if ET is at some point "UD", or perhaps entirely UD, how do they introduce themselves into the system without reprocussions to the conservation of energy laws?

I imagine the mathematicians and physicists who propose various models, like branes or extra expanded dimensions, wrestle with these concepts. Gravity seems to be one possible means, according to some, of connecting it all together.

As for living creatures who can snap a finger, wiggle a nose, or wrinkle a cortex and make it their own plaything, beggars belief. That is just from the point of explaining creatures or beings up the food chain, so to speak. Creatures simply older and wiser, but none-the-less humanoid and who evolved on some planet, somewhere.

If one considers the possibility of trancendent beings who are conducting a giant experiment, that is just more religion. Because, one must ask, what lies behind their reality, and so on. Which leads to either the idea of more materialistic solutions or something we can not as yet put into known terms- i.e. supreme being.

However, despite what people may think about Uri Gellar, I think he possibly represents one side of the puzzle. To me, Uri was caught up in a wave of experimentation. All I know is he said (and those around him, who knew him and spent time with him) that it seemed that some sort of non-corporeal beings from another universe/dimensional place, were conducting an experiment through him. There may have been an ET aspect to it. Possibly, the ET were part of the experiment, as willing participants.

If that was the case, what were the limits on that experiment, and were they imposed through intent?

Or, was Uri just so much nonsense, including people who may have seen things in private that make it less easy to disregard?

Was there a "Q" factor, for want of an easier term, that was experimenting on us?

You can take all of this, and a dime, and buy a cup of coffee, I'll admit.

The muslims I have heard say there is no greater way to fulfill your existance, than to die in mortal combat for one's leader. I believe there was a respite from this with the Alhambra, where such extremism was set aside. It represented the islamic enlightenment, until it was destroyed by radical muslims.

The Christian ideal is to live to the best example possible, because the ultimate questions about life and death have been taken to task, and worked out. Therefore, humans can do little to influence the system, except to make the process better for each other through altruistic behavior.

Knowing there are natural laws to contend with, we would not be held accountable for our failings to live to some ideal.

As far as a grand experiment to the Universe by a Supreme Being, which has introduced a bit of wonderment into our lives, I could accept that. Though, mathematically, it makes no sense, there being so many knowns and unknowns, including chaos and random factors. It is all beyond my understanding how it could be designed to a "T".

Somehow I can't picture Uri saying in a cool manner: "There is no spoon."

Maybe they developed intelligence long before they were advanced enough to do something with it biologically. Maybe they were like fish or turtles, who, even if they were intelligent, would have to progress very slowly, so now, they want to put a society to the test, with the biolical capacity of advancing and waging wars quickly. there could be much to learn from a race like us. Maybe they were never on the virge of destruction as we now are, because they advanced slowly enough that their philosophy could keep up with their science.