I know this is extremely far fetched and against both instinct and morals but there is only one way to stop the crisis humans have sent the earth into. We need to force ourselves into extinction. I know i know, nobody would go for it but think about it what do WE have to lose, its not like we wouldnt get to live out our lives, all we would need to do is stop reproducing and bang in about 100 years the earth can have itsself back and start to flourish once again. if you really think about it humans are the slime of this planet, we abuse everything it has to offer and give very little back. we drive thousands of animals into extinction, cut down entire rain forrest, dumb our co2 into the atmosphere, pollute the oceans and ruin its lands. Im just hoping some crazy scientist develops a "virus" (note the quotations) that willmake it so humans can not reproduce. think about it what do we have to lose?

Well the whole of the Human Race for one...

Im saying what do WE have to lose. once WE are dead what would it matter if the human race existed anymore?

umm first off wow and umm second how much crack did u smoke before signing on? ok maby thats a little wrong for me to say but forced extinction isn ot the answer i mean theres less drastic ways to resolve most of if not all of earth problems

ok i have an idea.. Choose a Country maybe 2 countries. that will survive. then kill the remaining countries. i'm talking about MASS GENOCIDE! or Just Drop a Bomb on every cities and nation except for the 2 voted countries.

......start it off buddy... HANG YOURSELF...

...ps i think the moderation team should notify CIA or FBI, KGB... anybody... about this dude...
just a strange feeling i have about him!!!

... on a serious note, i do see your point...

So are you basically saying that all humans should die out, so that our planet Earth can become just like all other planets in the universe... Empty?

Whats the point in another Empty Planet? Especially if there is no-one left to enjoy the earth???

And whats the point in saving Earth if there is no-one to inhabit it?

I do see your line of thinking though. But NO, I would not go along with it.... I would grab a man and sneak off and hide in the mountains and repopulate the world

Well, scientists say we're just as "natural" as other animals. So all that's happening is nature. We're not doing anything different than other animals, just following our instincts I guess....

Ok, seriously. I don' t agree with the above, but I do agree we're destroying our Earth.

wow. im not saying we should kill anybody just stop populating and NO our world would not be empty, thats humans problems we think we are all that matter, this is a perfect example. we are just 1 in millions of species and no im not talking about suicide or genocide simply fading into extinction and obviously its not going to happen nor is it a good idea, it is simply a solution. and NO there is no other way to solve all the problems we have created. we are selfish scum

Maybe earth's resources are meant to be used. Destroying the earth is a lot harder than you think What makes you think earth is having a "crisis". The earth will be here long after we are gone - alive and well.

No we are not. Human beings and life on Earth is a miracle if you take a step back , take a deep breath, and realized the wonders of life. I think it would be more of an insult to NOT use and abuse this planet. Earth is here for humans and the animals. We use it and abuse it. Thats life. Life feeds on life.

That is a sick wish. That's like cutting your nose off to spite your face. There's a movie about women losing reproductive ability in the future.

Ok so we give a chance for monkeys to take over human race? hahahahahah

we have been created for this earth and each one of us his time will come on its owen.

May I ask what made you think of it in that way?

hmm, what alot of negativity. All this guy is saying is if there were no humans left on the earth, it would be better off. There was no talk of destroying the earth; mentioning that we're ruining bits of it is a far cry from total destruction (although a nuclear war would come awful close).

I tend to agree ; this planet minus humans would be alot better off.

Am i only one who is thinking "HITLER IN MAKING" while reading these posts ???

The earth would be better off with much less humans than there are now. It's grossly over populated.

personally I think that mother nature is going to send something along to solve that problem. I'm not saying I want it to happen, but nature is a finely balanced power, and whether we like it or not we are all part of nature.

hmm. let nature do it's revenge when i'm dead

Wow..... Imagine the amount of CO2 and methane (NH3? lol) that would be produced from the corpses? That would really push Earth over the edge

I wouldn't go along, but have heard this type of thing Many times. You're not alone with these thoughts... some in powerful positions, many social programs, those concerned with overpopulation... many others lean and pursue that direction.

And I am in opposition to all of them.

How about we just halt the advancement of medical science? People that 100 years ago would have died from things they're living an extra 20 pollutant producing years. Don't use any medical knowledge that came from Nazi study. Unban drugs, repeal seatbelt laws, encourage smoking... so many things you could do to acheive your effect while reducing the slavery component and calling for out and out direct harming of others.

we are not one in millions of species more like one in billions of species u urself are closed minded in that statment between all the kingdoms there are billions of species together we are but one

I understand you... You are not suggesting to kill all the people, you suggest to stop reproducing. This is a very nice idea, I have thought about it too. But NOTHING EVER can stop humans from reproduction... even if EVERYONE would be activists and wouldn't have children just because of this crazy idea, imagine those families, those strange moods in their houses, their life knowing that there will be no posterity... I guess we would have another lost generation.
(just imagination running)

Have you forgoten what species you belong? Thats right your a human not a dog not a cow not a monkey but a human. I like to look out for in my opinion the number one species out there us. stay alive as long as possible thats what every other species is trying to do i find it sick and wrong that people would want to faze out the human species. Andr please don't come back with the oh there animals they don't hurt any one or don't know any better. First of all other animals and the planet have fazed out of existence more species than we ever could second of all they are JUST ANIMALS. Not that im saying purposefully do bad things to animals thats bad just perpetuate the human race thats good .

we could get rid of a lot of stupid people though

Well we are the people who are destorying the nature of this planet...
So i would have to agree with R3LOAD.

this thread has brought to my attention how many complete idiots there are in this forum. 1st off i NEVER mentioned anything along the lines of destruction or murder so saying hitler in the making doensnt make any sense and it a very ignorant moronic thing to say. 2nd other than the thoughts of no humans on this planet haunting us before we die how else would it hurt us? and how does it make me "close-minded" to say that there are millions of species, when i said millions i was obviously not going for figures it was a general statement that we are not the only animals on this planet (which we sometimes tend to think). people please calm down obviously I do not believe this idea is ever going to happen or for that fact that it should. what im saying is i always hear people talking about how to stop global warming and so on. the fact is there are thousands more problems humans are causing that effect every type of animal on the planet so if we REALLY cared (which we dont) we would stop repopulating. and im not saying humans are going to destroy the earth because that is impossible for us to do. im saying we are ruining it for us and billions of other types of life

KGB lmao?! Do oyu even know what the KGB is, because if you did you would see what a weird thing that was to say.

Dear R3LOAD im not saying tat your plotting to kill everybody cause that would be a little too extreme for anyone we should stick around because who knows what is going to happen in the future maby there will be a problem we did or did not cause and we are forced to fix it there no underesimating human enginuity we just need time to develope into an adcanced culture a coexisting one with the animals around us. I am a firm beleiver that one day we will become a peicefull culture and one day we will be needed. You never know what is going to happen.

...no.................. do you..?



...indeed

auhsoj if you dont have anything to say about this thread other than "call the kgb" (which doesnt make any sense) then leave

... i think it's a brilliant idea... but i truly feel we should stop all other creatures from breeding and kill them off, so that humans are the only ones left... and a few male horses for the over adventurous females...

starting to get a little over board over there

now the world don't move,
to the beat of just one drum,
what may be right for you,
may not be right for some...

chorus
...it takes different strokes
it takes different strokes to save the world
yes does it takes different strokes to savvveeeee tttthhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee wwwwwwwwwwwwooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrllllllllllllllllllddddddddddddd!

... i'll leave now...

... what you mean the horses? saw a video of it... it's called animal farm...

Can we expand that horse thing to "all equines"??

you say "We are all part of nature" yet you think we should stop reproducing and our numbers should be shortened ??? wouldnt a NATURAL thing be to keep living the way we are right now ???

i think that they are saying is that. we should put limit on how we make childrens. and reeducate people on how to take care of our dear planet. this home of ours is quite unique tho.

If this Universe is just some holographic, on shell projection, and really just a masterful cosmic illusion, I say let's ride it out as long as we can. Besides, for all we know, we are the soul of the Universe, allowing it to self-reflect. Without us, the whole thing would have been a sleepwalking dream.

And, besides. We can not predict the future for the planet, say ten thousand years from now. For example, if we run into the fractal end of a giant molecular cloud, it will leave the world with a chance to start over, anyway. And yes, our galaxy has plenty of things down the road, possibly, for this bubble we call our heliosphere, our home.

I say we just do the best we can. Our energy supplies that fuel modern civilization may one day be less plentiful, and that will put pressures on populations. So, don't worry.

Too much idealism is not always a good thing. But, some things are certain. We do put pressures on the environment- pollution, over use and exploitation of fish and wildlife. Somethings are worth preserving, by treaties and restrictions.

The next problems will probably center around potable water shortages. That is one big problem that will confront China, with all their development. It is not just their population, but over-industrialization. The irony is they used to be considered to have some aesthetic affinity with nature. They need to get back to that.

I suppose if you took away the incentive for modern economic growth, they would drop their population about 30%. So would the everyone, if we took away the recent advances in cereal grain production, the main food staple of the world.

Telling modern economies to reduce population would mean no viable social security for retirees. Some already have that problem- Germany, Japan. That is a tough thing to sell.

Au contraire, the way we are living now is not natural. Natural would be for nobody to be cured of diseases or ailments.. the death rate would be much, much higher, there would be no population over load. When did I say we should stop reproducing?

I found a map for the year 2050.

In addition, for those in the U.S., who see the effects of Congress trying to fix the Social Security System by encouraging Latinas to bring their fertility to America (yes, it's in the system)-

A short debate-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNjPRRfEizs


Map of the World Population In 2050

Meh, humanity doesn't need to go extinct, just wisen up and think of the future, and just the present and their selfish desires.

and here i thought it was NATURAL reaction of ANY being on this planet to SURVIVE and LIVE as long as possible ???



lets face it KILLING of HUMANS is happening by thousands each year. in HUMAN HISTORY we had 10 years of peace time ....
and things like VIRGINIA TECH have been happening since forever... so people die all the time .... FACT is ONE RICH MAN DOES MORE DAMAGE TO THIS PLANET THAN 2000000 HOMELESS PEOPLE DO ...

SO size of population has pretty much NOTHING to do with it its the PEOPLE WITH POWER standing behind our destruction

Well, this would certainly flush out Jesus from hiding, beckon the massive UFO fleet, and end the misunderstanding between men and women.

Umm.......last time I checked, Animal Farm was about socialism....


Meh, theres still plenty of room up here, so what do I care?


So, we are idiots because we don't want to kill off the human race?

What is the point of us solving the world's problems if we aren't here to enjoy it? There is probably much better ways than mass extinction. Mankind has made too many advancements and achievements throughout time to end it all.

good point if we kll ourselves off bunch of species saved on the other hand if we keep how we are going now well become extinct anyway and then the animals that survive will flourish.

I Didn't read this so im being honest, DELLUSIONAL OR WHAT!!

If im not mistaken aren't doom sayers saying that there will be another ice age soon? if true that in all probability solve our little population problem for a little while.

Humans are just animals to.

You should never take doomsayers with a grain of salt. There were people sure the world was going to end during the cold war, the year 2000 etc. Next up is 2012 because of the mayan calender but that will come and go without event and next people will look to 2029 or so when the big asteroid is going to pass us or 2033, the two thousandth aniversary of the crucifiction of jesus.

you dont need to kil everyone just people over a certain age, those with life threating disease, anyone awaiting jail (or life sentence) an danyon eon welfare for longer then 6 months with out explanation.
also castrate all males born in the 1980s an dall females born in the 1990s or do a year rotation wher all boys gat castrated every second year eg boys born in 84 86 88 90 etc and girls born in 85 87 89 etc get castrated
also make a rule where you have to be married to have kids then outlaw marriage and make marriage illegal apon penalty of death there you go population control


or just nuke the world if you dont have time for above

or just wait til 2012 and see if the mayans were right

but if you cant wait that long

like i said nuke it

Guys, R3LOAD does NOT propose to kill off the human race,...or anyone! Read propery! He's just proposing a temporary reproduction restricition, which could readjust the size of the human species to a size that the environment could sustain. And he could be closer to reality that you think! Overpopulation is the biggest mosty serious threat to us; combined with climate change (manmade or not), water shortage & crop failures on a massive scale are a distinct possibility in the near future. BTW, forced population birth control is not even fiction. The Chinese have done it for a couple of decades (One child family). They're smart.