Severe weather that occured over the eastern US was disrupted by Atlantic current and also this is very dangerous situation for the rest of the world. Majority of severe storms across the eastern US cuased deaths, damage to homes and erosion. Even though approaching La Nina is highly likely to change our climate if possible. Anyone have more reports from there?
Therefore another thing is very extreme.
La Nina is very important factor to the climate change. Hopefully La Nina didn't disrupt Atlantic current because this may be something really bad happening. As the link i posted from my last post is very interesting. You see the cooling area on eastern Pacific and also Atlantic, thats where severe weather is happening.
Back in 1974, severe La Nina was happened and it disrupt Australia's climate. Wiithin severe cyclones, more supercells, flooding rain and fewer tornadoes. The monsoon trough was further south than expected. So any forecasters should know about approaching La Nina its because you would know it may prevent the Atlantic current.
On Pacifc ocean side, the area of cooling is good sign for Australia because of drought breaking rain are predicted. SE Australia area is very desperate to see favourable rainfalls to brought their droughts. Therefore the climate has disrupted after 2000's La Nina by the mini solar flare occured (which it didn't affect Earth) which created a severe El Nino drought to Australia.
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I got one thing to say about your statement waether man.....Mother nature can be a b****.
Are you saying that it's possible that the Atlantic conveyor is starting to shut down? Here is part of an article that relates:
Link
"Only a few places around Antarctica and in the northern Atlantic create water dense enough to sink to the ocean floor, making Antarctic "bottom water" crucial to global ocean currents.
But the freshening of Antarctic deep water was a sign that the "overturning circulation" system in the world's oceans might be slowing down, Rintoul said, and similar trends are occurring in the North Atlantic.
For the so-called Atlantic Conveyor, the surface warm water current meets the Greenland ice sheet then cools and sinks, heading south again and driving the conveyor belt process.
But researchers fear increased melting of the Greenland ice sheet risks disrupting the conveyor. If it stops, temperatures in northern Europe would plunge.
Rintoul, who has led teams tracking water density around the Antarctic through decades of readings, said his findings add to concerns about a "strangling" of the Southern Ocean by greenhouse gases and global warming.
Australian scientists warned last month that waters surrounding Antarctica were also becoming more acidic as they absorbed more carbon dioxide produced by nations burning fossil fuels.
Acidification of the ocean is affecting the ability of plankton -- microscopic marine plants, animals and bacteria -- to absorb carbon dioxide, reducing the ocean's ability to sink greenhouse gases to the bottom of the sea.
Rintoul said that global warming was also changing wind patterns in the Antarctic region, drawing them south away from the Australian mainland and causing declining rainfall in western and possibly eastern coastal areas.
This was contributing to drought in Australia, one of the world's top agricultural producers, he said."
Link
"Only a few places around Antarctica and in the northern Atlantic create water dense enough to sink to the ocean floor, making Antarctic "bottom water" crucial to global ocean currents.
But the freshening of Antarctic deep water was a sign that the "overturning circulation" system in the world's oceans might be slowing down, Rintoul said, and similar trends are occurring in the North Atlantic.
For the so-called Atlantic Conveyor, the surface warm water current meets the Greenland ice sheet then cools and sinks, heading south again and driving the conveyor belt process.
But researchers fear increased melting of the Greenland ice sheet risks disrupting the conveyor. If it stops, temperatures in northern Europe would plunge.
Rintoul, who has led teams tracking water density around the Antarctic through decades of readings, said his findings add to concerns about a "strangling" of the Southern Ocean by greenhouse gases and global warming.
Australian scientists warned last month that waters surrounding Antarctica were also becoming more acidic as they absorbed more carbon dioxide produced by nations burning fossil fuels.
Acidification of the ocean is affecting the ability of plankton -- microscopic marine plants, animals and bacteria -- to absorb carbon dioxide, reducing the ocean's ability to sink greenhouse gases to the bottom of the sea.
Rintoul said that global warming was also changing wind patterns in the Antarctic region, drawing them south away from the Australian mainland and causing declining rainfall in western and possibly eastern coastal areas.
This was contributing to drought in Australia, one of the world's top agricultural producers, he said."
Yes it would be that but i forget the link that would be useful: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/04/...5971419547.html
You would see the coloured area off the eastern coast of US, it is very similar what la nina is going to do over the western South America. La Nina MAY disrupt Atlantic current.
You would see the coloured area off the eastern coast of US, it is very similar what la nina is going to do over the western South America. La Nina MAY disrupt Atlantic current.
yeah! scarey. i saw this topic on NGC two months ago
so in other words the s**** has hit the fan right?
scary thing is there is no where to hide
scary thing is there is no where to hide
Flooding in southern australia area occured now. I think drought breaking rain has started.
oh well nice knowing ya!! see you all on the other side
as the HHGTG says...... "DON'T PANIC!"
Doom and gloom scenarios have seldom come to pass. We were supposed to be hammered by hurricanes in 2006..... barely a murmer.
Doom and gloom scenarios have seldom come to pass. We were supposed to be hammered by hurricanes in 2006..... barely a murmer.
COMMENTARY:
The far-eastern equatorial Pacific has remained close to zero in recent months. Furthermore, a large body of anomalously cool water remains in the subsurface of the eastern equatorial Pacific, increasing the chances of further cooling at the surface. The current weekly values of the eastern and central Pacific indices remain close to zero, whilst NINO4 in the western Pacific is also now close to zero: NINO3 (eastern Pacific) and NINO4 are both +0.1°C and NINO3.4 (central Pacific) is +0.2°C for the week ending 29 April. Many computer models predict further cooling of the eastern Pacific over the coming months.
The POAMA model, run at the Bureau of Meteorology, generates a new forecast every day for the following eight months based on the latest observations. The average of the most recent 30 model runs suggests the NINO3 temperature will cool, with the index falling to −1.8°C in June and warming slightly until the end of the year, though still remaining below La Niña thresholds.
For the 30 runs of POAMA between 31st March and 29th April, the distribution of NINO3 temperature anomalies averaged over SEPTEMBER is as follows:
below −0.8°C: 77% (Cool)
−0.8°C to zero: 23% (Neutral)
zero to +0.8°C: 0% (Neutral)
And similarly for DECEMBER the results are:
below −0.8°C: 66% (Cool)
−0.8°C to zero: 34% (Neutral)
zero to +0.8°C: 0% (Neutral)
Similar data for other months can be accessed by following the "POAMA" link in the table above.
For September, six of the eleven models available predict cool ENSO conditions, while five show neutral conditions. By December four models (of eight available) predict cool conditions, with four predicting neutral.
However, the March to June period is known as the "predictability barrier" and model skill is at its lowest predicting across this span of months. Users should therefore exercise caution when interpreting forecasts for the end of 2007, and are encouraged to view the actual model outputs by following the web links. Frequent updates of the latest observational data with relevant commentary are available on the Bureau's ENSO Wrap-Up page.
This survey last updated 1st May 2007.
Next update expected in late May 2007.
I think we SHOULD take actions because of things are getting worse in the world. Forecasters better keep going through all models and saying theres COULD be something is wrong or even are wrong. We have to keep things up for our actions get along with climate change before massive climate failure in the future.
Climate here in Australia lately is changed because all high pressures cells are moving south again to create us into "back to summer" weather. Temperatures at night still cold BUT it's increasing indices although max temperatures increasing much higher than 30C for again. Max here tomorrow is 30C which is 6C above average. Here the weather charts from weatherzone: http://www.weatherzone.com.au/charts/isoba...n.jsp?chart=sum
It conveys alot more heat troughs and further south high pressure cells of that no more cold fronts for mainland. I afraid of that we would dip into warmest winter on record as we know medival period. Rainfalls by OCF website showing much higher rain days and amount end of next week, therefore temperatures ARE still very warm to hot.
Last year, into May, weather was much alot cooler like into averages and more thunderstorms including cold fronts. Snow has started in early June last year which was ripper. I can't see any signs of Winter.
The far-eastern equatorial Pacific has remained close to zero in recent months. Furthermore, a large body of anomalously cool water remains in the subsurface of the eastern equatorial Pacific, increasing the chances of further cooling at the surface. The current weekly values of the eastern and central Pacific indices remain close to zero, whilst NINO4 in the western Pacific is also now close to zero: NINO3 (eastern Pacific) and NINO4 are both +0.1°C and NINO3.4 (central Pacific) is +0.2°C for the week ending 29 April. Many computer models predict further cooling of the eastern Pacific over the coming months.
The POAMA model, run at the Bureau of Meteorology, generates a new forecast every day for the following eight months based on the latest observations. The average of the most recent 30 model runs suggests the NINO3 temperature will cool, with the index falling to −1.8°C in June and warming slightly until the end of the year, though still remaining below La Niña thresholds.
For the 30 runs of POAMA between 31st March and 29th April, the distribution of NINO3 temperature anomalies averaged over SEPTEMBER is as follows:
below −0.8°C: 77% (Cool)
−0.8°C to zero: 23% (Neutral)
zero to +0.8°C: 0% (Neutral)
And similarly for DECEMBER the results are:
below −0.8°C: 66% (Cool)
−0.8°C to zero: 34% (Neutral)
zero to +0.8°C: 0% (Neutral)
Similar data for other months can be accessed by following the "POAMA" link in the table above.
For September, six of the eleven models available predict cool ENSO conditions, while five show neutral conditions. By December four models (of eight available) predict cool conditions, with four predicting neutral.
However, the March to June period is known as the "predictability barrier" and model skill is at its lowest predicting across this span of months. Users should therefore exercise caution when interpreting forecasts for the end of 2007, and are encouraged to view the actual model outputs by following the web links. Frequent updates of the latest observational data with relevant commentary are available on the Bureau's ENSO Wrap-Up page.
This survey last updated 1st May 2007.
Next update expected in late May 2007.
I think we SHOULD take actions because of things are getting worse in the world. Forecasters better keep going through all models and saying theres COULD be something is wrong or even are wrong. We have to keep things up for our actions get along with climate change before massive climate failure in the future.
Climate here in Australia lately is changed because all high pressures cells are moving south again to create us into "back to summer" weather. Temperatures at night still cold BUT it's increasing indices although max temperatures increasing much higher than 30C for again. Max here tomorrow is 30C which is 6C above average. Here the weather charts from weatherzone: http://www.weatherzone.com.au/charts/isoba...n.jsp?chart=sum
It conveys alot more heat troughs and further south high pressure cells of that no more cold fronts for mainland. I afraid of that we would dip into warmest winter on record as we know medival period. Rainfalls by OCF website showing much higher rain days and amount end of next week, therefore temperatures ARE still very warm to hot.
Last year, into May, weather was much alot cooler like into averages and more thunderstorms including cold fronts. Snow has started in early June last year which was ripper. I can't see any signs of Winter.
well the weather here in germany is DAMN nice... but not a single drop of rain for over a month (in april!) is kinda scary 
everyone get on the new skyship i just built! n entire civilization in the sky!!! YAY. . . wait, oh no its not done! there are no bathrooms, no kitchens, no, no skyship 
how about a version of griffins castle for my freinds on UM and my family and my friends in school. . . who to pick, u can start begging now 
how about a version of griffins castle for my freinds on UM and my family and my friends in school. . . who to pick, u can start begging now
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On Pacifc ocean side, the area of cooling is good sign for Australia because of drought breaking rain are predicted. SE Australia area is very desperate to see favourable rainfalls to brought their droughts. Therefore the climate has disrupted after 2000's La Nina by the mini solar flare occured (which it didn't affect Earth) which created a severe El Nino drought to Australia.
Hello Matt:
I have been aware of this weather and climate failure. I feel so sorry for the meteorologists too because our weather up here in Oregon has been very erratic and unpredictable. Many many times in the recent past, our meteorologists have said things like "It looks like it will be clear and sunny this weekend." Then we have rain all weekend.
I have noticed that people have been sending in mean letters to the meteorologists, and the anchors on some of the news broadcasts have said things like "What happened, Joe? You said it was going to be sunny this weekend."
Their reply is that the weather has been changing unexpectedly. I guess they can only report what appears on the radar. Regarding the climate, when I was looking at the following list of climate climatic zones of the world
Polar - very cold and dry all year
Temperate - cold winters and mmild summers
Arid - dry, hot all year
Tropical - hot and wet all year
Mediterranean - mild winters, dry hot summers
Mountains (tundra) very cold all year
I realized that because of our ongoing weather patterns, the Pacific Northwest(specifically, Oregon) appears to be changing from a Temperate zone to a Tundra zone.
I guess this is signaling the future Ice Age.
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oh well nice knowing ya!! see you all on the other side
lol which side?
but yeah the weather is changing it sucks being in a 9 year drought. water restrictions suck. in some places in australia its down to a bathtub of water a week for households scary
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