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NaveedXVO
okay so I have always been interested in the unexplained and I've been watching a lot of the show "A Haunting" and was recently reading about the evolution of humans

so heres how it goes and the logic behind it

Humans are the only known animal to leave behind ghosts if you consider ghosts real
It is commonly believed that humans leave/become ghosts when they have a extremely negative emotional death one filled with intense anger sadness or regret(etc.)

is it not possible that other animals can leave behind ghosts, perhaps an animal closely related to humans?
such as gigantopithicus, great apes, neanderthals or erectus(etc.) could also have strong emotional deaths, thus leading to
ghosts which could easily be mistaken as this bigfoot type creature and also would not leave any evidence of there having been seen.

it's no doubt that primates do experience complex emotions. if you've ever watched a show or red a book about primates you'll know this and our earlier homo ancestors no doubt had emotions nearing human level.

gigantopithicus is known to have lived in china, india and tibet region this would explain the yeti of the himalayas(and who knows its perhaps possible they could have migrated across the land bridge to western north america explaining the many sightings in western canada(sasquatch) and the western united states(bigfoot))

thoughts, comments, questions?

Myles
QUOTE(NaveedXVO @ Apr 19 2007, 06:59 AM) [snapback]1636663[/snapback]
okay so I have always been interested in the unexplained and I've been watching a lot of the show "A Haunting" and was recently reading about the evolution of humans

so heres how it goes and the logic behind it

Humans are the only known animal to leave behind ghosts if you consider ghosts real
It is commonly believed that humans leave/become ghosts when they have a extremely negative emotional death one filled with intense anger sadness or regret(etc.)

is it not possible that other animals can leave behind ghosts, perhaps an animal closely related to humans?
such as gigantopithicus, great apes, neanderthals or erectus(etc.) could also have strong emotional deaths, thus leading to
ghosts which could easily be mistaken as this bigfoot type creature and also would not leave any evidence of there having been seen.

it's no doubt that primates do experience complex emotions. if you've ever watched a show or red a book about primates you'll know this and our earlier homo ancestors no doubt had emotions nearing human level.

gigantopithicus is known to have lived in china, india and tibet region this would explain the yeti of the himalayas(and who knows its perhaps possible they could have migrated across the land bridge to western north america explaining the many sightings in western canada(sasquatch) and the western united states(bigfoot))

thoughts, comments, questions?



That's a good theory.
opticuswrangler


It appears that you are suggesting we explain one unknown quantity with another.
unilaye
Interesting theory, actually. I've always liked the mystery of Bigfoot. It's interesting how many cultures have this same legend. My personal opinion has always been that they are an elusive specie of ape that we are currently unfamiliar with.
~Onyx~
Don't know if I've ever heard that theory before, so good on you for original thinking, but I have to agree with Opticus, there's not much hope of substantiating your theory when using ANOTHER unknown as an analogy.
Sugar!

So what do you make of this? huh.gif


Egyptian Texts The Kolbrin Bible

Read pg 30. !

" the ape tribe Selok, led by Heaven- · man, perished by flames before the Valley of Lod, · only one she-ape reaching the cave heights above"

"When heaven man was re-born of the she-ape in the cavern of woe"


http://yowbooks.com/download/manning/bronz...-ebook-demo.pdf


The Kolbrin Bible

The Kolbrin is a series of maunuscripts said to have been salvaged from the Glastonbury Abbey fires in 1184. They're said to have a connection with Jesus ...
Samael
Y'know, I'm fairly sure humans aren't the only animal that (supposedly) leaves behind ghosts. Pigs have been known to do it as well, which is interesting when you consider that pigs are, internally speaking, the closest to humans.
NaveedXVO
I'm not quite sure what your trying to get at with that text sugar?

interesting never heard of pig ghosts(menacing *is scared*), perhaps you could link a story of a pig or other animal ghost

while they are close to humans internally i would highly doubt that they are the closest, perhaps you got this idea because they are commonly dissected in biology classes to show mammalian organ characteristics and this is probably due to their abundance, their affordability and people dont generally concern thereselves with their well being(could you imagine if they dissected chimpanzees or something of the sort in biology class, not the best idea)

of course the theory is completely unproveable at the present and since proving ghosts or big foot real has little commercial or practicle application it probably wont be done within any of our lifetimes, it would definately explain a lot although raise new questions.

Its the unknown unknown lol

i've heard another interesting theory about them being tulpas(a creature created by collective concentration or imaging), another interesting unprovable theory. sylvia browns known unknown, she tells it like a law though and doesnt cite her apparently researched sources.

I can't comprehend that an animal of the magnitude of bigfoot could keep itself undiscovered in this age, gorillas(i believe the last great ape discovered) were discovered (around) 80 years ago in the most remote inhospitable areas of Africa, surely a creature of bigfoots notoriety would have been found in the relatively well populated and technologically civilized areas of western north america, inner china and tibet(etc.). of course if it were a ghost(or even a tulpa) it would all make sense.

would it be considered against the rules to post this theory in the ghost forum?
Kyle Rajasthan
It's a good theory, assuming of course, that ghost actually exist (big debate, not going into that here). This could go a long way to explaining sightings of such beings that do not leave behind any physical evidence. Hair, footprints, very bad smells, unidentified scat piles, broken trees, ect. I know I have read many stories of "ghost animals" before. In many cultures spirit animals are a common theme. It does make you think though, doesn't it?

Good Journey.

Kyle Rajasthan.
Samael
QUOTE(NaveedXVO @ Apr 20 2007, 02:14 AM) [snapback]1637909[/snapback]
I'm not quite sure what your trying to get at with that text sugar?

interesting never heard of pig ghosts(menacing *is scared*), perhaps you could link a story of a pig or other animal ghost

while they are close to humans internally i would highly doubt that they are the closest, perhaps you got this idea because they are commonly dissected in biology classes to show mammalian organ characteristics and this is probably due to their abundance, their affordability and people dont generally concern thereselves with their well being(could you imagine if they dissected chimpanzees or something of the sort in biology class, not the best idea)

of course the theory is completely unproveable at the present and since proving ghosts or big foot real has little commercial or practicle application it probably wont be done within any of our lifetimes, it would definately explain a lot although raise new questions.

Its the unknown unknown lol

i've heard another interesting theory about them being tulpas(a creature created by collective concentration or imaging), another interesting unprovable theory. sylvia browns known unknown, she tells it like a law though and doesnt cite her apparently researched sources.

I can't comprehend that an animal of the magnitude of bigfoot could keep itself undiscovered in this age, gorillas(i believe the last great ape discovered) were discovered (around) 80 years ago in the most remote inhospitable areas of Africa, surely a creature of bigfoots notoriety would have been found in the relatively well populated and technologically civilized areas of western north america, inner china and tibet(etc.). of course if it were a ghost(or even a tulpa) it would all make sense.

would it be considered against the rules to post this theory in the ghost forum?


I'm afraid I can't provide a link to pig ghost story, because the one I read was in a book about ghosts.
Ridelikethewind
QUOTE(Mister E. @ Apr 20 2007, 12:52 PM) [snapback]1638809[/snapback]
I'm afraid I can't provide a link to pig ghost story, because the one I read was in a book about ghosts.



Are you maybe referring to the supposed pig-type creature that was part of the Amityville Horror story? I've never heard of any animals coming back as ghosts. I suppose if one believes in the Bible, you could say that since humans had no soul before Jesus came, then any ancient creatures/humanoids would have leaft a ghost. After jesus died for our sins, humans were supposedly given a soul. So maybe that's why we don't have barbarian tribe ghosts like before AD? I dunno, just a thought. But then I suppose if you believe Jesus died for our sins and man was then given a soul, it would be hard to think that 'humanoids' from evolution would leave ghosts as that goes against the creation theory that the Bible teaches. I suppose we won't really know until we pass on to the other side - if there is one...
Samael
QUOTE(Ridelikethewind @ Apr 20 2007, 05:13 PM) [snapback]1638836[/snapback]
Are you maybe referring to the supposed pig-type creature that was part of the Amityville Horror story? I've never heard of any animals coming back as ghosts. I suppose if one believes in the Bible, you could say that since humans had no soul before Jesus came, then any ancient creatures/humanoids would have leaft a ghost. After jesus died for our sins, humans were supposedly given a soul. So maybe that's why we don't have barbarian tribe ghosts like before AD? I dunno, just a thought. But then I suppose if you believe Jesus died for our sins and man was then given a soul, it would be hard to think that 'humanoids' from evolution would leave ghosts as that goes against the creation theory that the Bible teaches. I suppose we won't really know until we pass on to the other side - if there is one...


I don't think I'm referring to the Amityville Horror. I shall have to find that book.
Sugar!
rolleyes.gif Mr. E , your observation is accurate because I don't know where to go with this either. I posted the information here for lack of knowing where else to post it. I guess my point is that in many ancient account as well as with resent accounts they are thought of as "real" beings. Just offering an alternative point of view.

Sugar1
Sugar!
http://www.paranormalplus.com/Bigfoot%201.JPG

on Topic innocent.gif
Raptor
QUOTE(Sugar! @ Apr 21 2007, 10:16 PM) [snapback]1640291[/snapback]


That picture is so pointlessly ridiculous, you don't actually think it suggests bigfoot is real, do you?
Sugar!
rolleyes.gif Ahhh.... was just trying to stay on topic , the theroy was ghost Bigfoot ; correct? ( note my first post, way off topic)
Please do offer some information that is not so "pointlessly ridiculous" as what I have offered.
I am willing to read just about anything. lol
Also you may want to share your opinions with Mr. Loren Coleman for he too has posted a very simular picture ( with a story).
http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/...o-enhancements/

kiddglock
As a couple of other posters have said, the theory breaks right down on the "ghost of other animals" issue. Certainly there have been sightings of ghost horses, pigs, cattle, cats, dogs, and who knows what else. Many believe that all animals have a spirit.
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