LOL You are not old. I plan on pursuing the church as early as tomorrow, whether I hear from them or not. I know whats here and that is all that matters. I dont know anything about wicca or wiccan, so I will go with what I DO know. Thanks Barek.

Hello everyone,

I am a bit late to this thread so for now i will only add a small two cents. In my opinion this is past the wiccan blessing/cleansing which if we were dealing with a little mischievous prankster spirit would be one avenue to try,but this is beyond that and what is needed is direct confrontation and expiration and no less.

In what state do you live JustNormal?

Hi, I live in Massachusetts, any ideas?

Hello,

I live in Minnesota and thought i would ask in the off chance that you might live here in which i could be of more personal assistance. I will look into what is available in your area and also an exorcist who used to be in the Boston area who was very good but after a number of years now he may have moved. Also hopefully you are able to contact some people near you to come with authority to take back your ground.

Talk to you soon.

Thank you, but it all sounds way too frightening, would I have to be here????

Sorry, I just saw this post. NO Ouija board in many years. We used to use them and ask silly questions but always noted very bad things happened following using one, so got rid of it. The Investigator asked me and my son the same question. I hate those things, they are dangerous in my opinion.

They are beings with similar and sometimes higher intelligence. They will play very complex mind games probably for thier own amusement. This I suppose is to loosen your grip on reality and drive you mad. Why this creature is here could be any number of reasons. They unfortunately seem to target young-late teens girls and single Mothers. Judging by it's ability it is not a human who has died recently and is probably demonic in origin.

The key to beating this is not to be afraid. You can't be hurt if you are strong and without fear. The Lords Prayer is probably one of the best prayers to say to give you strength. God may not save you from this but he will give you the strength to save yourself. Only you know your true situation and hopefuly you will know what is right. You don't really need a priest or a pastor etc. we are all equal in the eyes of God. What makes them "better" is they have strength in thier faith, strength that anyone can have.

That they have strengh in their faith, and that they have experience in this field (IF they done it before) and the fact that they have a looong history of other priest and pastors experiences to get help from, is exactly why they are a good help in these cases.
Especially, when you are tired and worn out, it is not a good idea, to pick a fight with a demon ore ghost, fit for fight, as this seems to be.
The Lords Prayer - Instant Good Power!

But you are right of cource, we are all equal in the eyes of god, but we do have different skills. I, for example would never dare to try to fix my car if it is broken, i would go to a mekanic.

Time has no meaning to a Ouija board. Sometimes something can be summoned that is weak and takes a long time to build enough energy to become a problem. I notice that you mention a team of people? You do realise that the presence of people who want to see spiritual activity can sometimes nurture it and give it strength. If you can't get help that works there are people on this forum who can help remove spirits from a distance.

Yo!
the Storm in in the house!
a board can let something in that may lay dormant for years....

that has been a subject of confusion for myself on this...at first I wanted to think it was the spirit OF a preditor....now I think this may be A PREDITOR SPIRIT.....either way its going down ..........
I PMd Anvil early on and she did reply, but advised me that she was engaged in a really difficult cleansing yesterday..and she is still in the fight.....All must keep happy thought towards her right now as well....B

Oh that wasn't nice. I read your post and got a chill right down my spine when I thought of Anvil. Good thoughts going her way

Hi JustNormal,

It sounds like you have various options and contacts to try thru this paranormal team which is good, and it's great that they provide you with such support with being close by.

But keep in mind that an investigation team like this is after raw evidence, their intent is to get what they can of the experience first, finding a solution comes second. Like Lord Storm said, people who are in thrill seeking mode for the experience (and this can be as simple as having the mindset of wanting to urge the 'whatever' to perform, show what it can do, make contact, push the boat out etc, hence the séances and evp games), can over time amp the situation as their energy and intent is lent to it. This is fine if you are ok with that, it's fine if it's over a short period of time with someone involved who has the skill to knuckle/deal with it on the head after, but if not then...

I'm not sure for how long they have been involved with your case? but I'd say the sooner you and they stop fannying around for evidence and start trying solutions the better

You describe that you have been physically pushed at times which has led to injuries. I would say while this is defiantly out of order and shows the true nature of the entity/energy, it's probably about as much as it can do. This entity appears to have a lot of energy skill, it could well be a spirit who passed with such knowledge or has mastered it in spirit. Even is if this is the case, they are still limited in how they can interact with us physically, all spirits are. This physical existence/plane is not their ideal environment, they can only interfere so much. You have to know that you are 100 times stronger in every way than it is.

I would also be willing to bet from experience, that there's a source of energy available somewhere in your home or land that's providing the right conditions for such activity. Things like underground springs, ley lines, wells/channels, near by rivers or lakes. These can all amp or provide energy to a knowledgeable spirit.

Energy is all a spirit is and has, ability is down knowledge in what it can do with energy, that may be to manifest in some way or use it to move things. With high level activity cases I look for sources of energy and shield/seal them. (This is about working on a spiritual level with energy and spirits, not physically or via ritual/spells) It's like turing a tap off or putting water on the fire. It makes cleansing and entity removal/collection easier.

I also wanted to say something about the EVP's, I can understand that these must be disturbing to listen to esp if it's foul language coming through. This entity obviously thinks it belongs where it does and doesn't wish to co-exist. It's unusual for an entity to be heard but displays or anger, frustration, profanities is not uncommon from spirits, esp troubled, or low level coneheads.........What I wasn't clear about with the evp's was if you are getting the same voice in these recordings or different ones? The thing with EVP in active areas is it can be hard to know if it's current or residual, both can be picked up, plus other spirits can be drawn in.

Also if I can refer back to your first post, it did cross my mind that this entity may be distressed, confused and acting out of fear, from something else or something that happened on this land, such as a fire. The get out and pushing may be it reliving it's distress. have the team or you looked into the history of the land/building at all?

Like Lord Storm said there's a few people here that can work remotely and specialise in different areas of this sort of thing. Just so you know if the other avenues don't work out.

I hope this gets dealt with swiftly and remember, 90% is psychological, you're 100 times stronger and better in everyway than it is, but don't bargain if things go missing again, that's as good as submitting to it's games and giving it motive to play more. Instead, just focus on asking for assistance from a higher level, be it god, spirit guides, angels, whatever it is for you

Aw thanks guys but I think everything is -A- ok now all fired up and raring to go again you're welcome to check me out to make sure though hahah

OMG she'd eat me alive

I messed with the pic a little, made it smaller to. Can you please point out what it is we're suppose to be seeing here?
Thanks

JustNormal, your situation sounds harrowing! I don't know how you can live like that. I have no advice to offer except that I saw a special on this type of haunting on the Discovery channel last night. According to the experts in the show, if the haunting is a demon, it will follow you wherever you go, so you must get rid of it! Moving won't help. I don't know what to tell you except keep us updated and I hope you find peace soon.

........ yep A-ok!....B









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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5t5GukrWOU

I missed this too!....ughh .......this one is a ringer....AND is that your sons picture that thing is hovering near? (that TV set may be a portal).....was the TV on or off when this photo was taken?......B

get rid of the clock and fan right away and get out of there. Get the house exorcised and blessed and you too and your family. MOVE. Get blessed before you move, but away from the house is my suggestion, but IDK

I read some more of the posts and I see that leaving is not about to help, as it is attached to you. You invited this in your self, unintentially. I hope you find a releif, I feel you need to stop seeking out the other side, as you are atracting something evil to you, several somethings. My opinion, ouiji boards are evil, had more than my share of junk with one of those.

JustNormal,

Any luck yet with churches etc. in your area for spiritual warfare?Or pics from the paranormal group?

Thanks

Thanks, I did not even see the blue mist till you messed with it. As I said, I was laying in bed, and all the sudden noticed this what I call a worm type thing in the corner, above the shelf, onto ceiling. It moved from time to time. It didnt scare me or threaten, I just felt comfort and that is was pretty, so took a pic. When it was developed, it turned from a tiny red rod to a huge red mist, extending from ceiling to floor. Looks suspcious to me..

Sorry, I have not been here but I lost my electricity and then my phone, for over 24 hours. OMG I was scared and alone. But I heard alot of stuff, but simply prayed alot, all night long while something was in the other room, making a great deal of noise, I never got up to see the damage, till this morning. They seemed to trash the what I call "tub room" where alot of the pushing, falling and the team felt "strange." But I know have electric and phone back, thank God. Last night was like a bad B rated scary movie, all alone, no lights, one candle, then no phone? My faith and sanity were tested, and I passed )..

Not yet, as I just wrote, no elecrticity or phone till about 1/2 an hour ago. UGH..I got some pics. I will send one that is SO COOL..It's during the seance, and the "sensitive" female said she felt a great deal of energy in her hands. The camera man was frustrated beccause his batteries were constantly being drained, so some are foggy but this one is GREAT..Let me know what you think. I have to size it and put it in another post, I am not good at this yet LOL

hey all..
The worm thing is not AS frequent of a phenomena..they seem to be just sort of drifting in to an "open door"... I have never heard of one of these ever harming anyone...there are justs slugs really........I hate to use Star Trek as another example... but.....there is an episode where Lt Barkley developes a phobia of the Enterprise transporter because when he starts the "beaming up" process he sees these inter dimensional slug things floating around...... one wonders if the writer of that episode had some sort of personal inspiration on the subject......(I do see it in the picture JN).....B

The issue is, I cannot live like this. But I am taking one day at a time, and reaching out to God and my guardian angels. I refuse to let this monster win, it is my home and I am staying he can go! Thank you, I need peace and some sleep..

This is a cropped shot of the seance. I was there, with the rest of the team. The other female medium said she felt a great deal if spiritual energy in her hands. At the time we saw nothing, but just got this today. I love thos orb. If you mess with the pic you will see it has a face inside it

I just posted a pic of what took place during the seance, and I do hope it downloaded correctly. Two or 3 pictures are taken in the "tub room" with a few of the team guys in there. There is a HUGE amount of black mist covering most of the pictures. I am trying to resize them so you can see this..Will download when I get them ready. They are pretty cool but in my opinion very scary. I am not sure I can handle listening to EVP's, not yet anyway. Team is coming out again this weekend. But whatever I get, I will share

My son's pictures and my 12 yr old granddaughter's pic is directly about that image. The photographer described the image as a female, with her hair up, and sort of sloped bangs to the side, with a very prominent nose. That could be my mother, I am not sure. The TV was off, I have NO idea what that blue haze is, OR the orb looking thing in the middle of it. All these images can also be seen on the original prints. Scared yet? LOL

Thank you and as I said the Ouija board was like 15 years ago, and we just messed with it. But I stopped when negative things happened following using it. Because I am psychic and can get messages from deceased people, DOES leave me wide open to evil as well. I love to help people, I am a kind, spiritual woman. I have never hurt a soul in my life. Why this thing is attached to me, is beyond me, but I am not leaving, he is, one way or another. This has nothing to do with Ouija Boards, this has to do with me, and me only.

What a good topic to begin posting again.

Sounds interesting all this stuff. That red line thing sounds interesting.

Is there any chance you could upload these recordings to either sendspace or myspace music for us to have a listen to?

From what I've read on here a while back it seems that this black shadow entity is the bad spirit. I dunno if it's harmful though.
The good spirit is most likely to be your mum looking over you perhaps. White usually means good cos it's light and black = bad cos it's dark. Or that's how I've seen it put

And a big hi to those who remember me *waves*

heck no! Ive been over the scared thing for a while..... ....the worm picture has some things happening too but I haven't really felt anything menacing yet(good)......but with me its hit or miss , hopefully the other photos will be ready for upload soon! ........... BUT follow through with the church and such.......B

Hi, thanks I can tell there is at least one kind spirit here or possibly more. I have a hard time reading them, and who they are because I am too close to the situation. The red shot shocked me, cause I saw a small image with the naked eye first. In the photo itself it is HUGE...

Yea and as I said, I looked at that rod for quite sometime, that is why I could not believe it moved and didnt just disappear. I felt "close" to it and I liked it. I did not feel it was a menace either, or evil. It was in my bedroom for about 10 minutes or so, so then grabbed my disposable camera and tried to see what I was shooting. I dunno what the blue haze is either. I am having a problem AGAIN downloading pictures, what am I doing wrong?

I agree with you that you are probably the key to this whole thing. I see in that shot there is a deck of Tarot (Golden Dawn?) I used to be able to sumon spirits when reading Tarot. It was not the cards that did it it was the frame of mind I went into. I would liken it to becoming a cross dimensional beacon. You may be "switched on" permanently. You need to find your off switch. In that mode of being you weaken the fabric of space around you making it easier for spirits to interact cross realm. You are also a lovely energy source All this spiritual investigation is also helping keep you locked into this mode of being. You are probably a walking lighthouse Try meditation and see if you can feel what is happening, hopefuly I am wrong.

Thanks Storm, that was not me holding the orb that was another female who was part of the team and her cards. But yes I am always turned on and I am trying to shut it off, but it doesnt just go away. When I do meditate, which I do often anyway, I get more messages and half the time I dont even know who they are for LOL..I am in the mode now of just living my life as usual. The only difference is, obviously my sleeping pattern has changed, cause I now I dont sleep well at all, with all that stuff around me, it makes me crazy. I think I need a vacation away from this house and all the crazies that are in it LOL

AWW Thank you, that is what I am trying to do, just move on with my life and pray, pray and pray some more. The voice is always the same. I do know it is male, he smokes or did, he coughs alot, and he is not always vulgar and that does not bother me as much as his disembodied voice. First time I heard it I nearly passed out. Thanks for the advice, I refuse to play into him anymore or give him one ounce of attention, but he is usually around just the same. Like I said, this all started innocently when I kept hearing that stuff on my radio even tho it wasnt on. So recorded for the heck of it, thinking it was a talk show or something. The very first time I listened to it, he said my name twice and it freaked me out. Only listened a few more times to ensure I was not losing my mind, and shared it with others so they would validate my feelings. I needed that investigation, it had to be done. I needed to know what I was up against and WHO, if possible. NO MORE bargaining LOL...That was the last time I talked to him, even though he still talks to me, I dont acknowledge him at all..My son wont even sleep here cause he is scared and has been experiencing alot of sleep paralysis as well. I wanna move lol

I totally agree with storm.
Tarot can be a key to open the door to other realms, and who knows what comes in that door.

I dont want to sound harsh ore rude, but i say this with consern and care; you do have to take a stand. Either you keep going on with the team, and their occult methods (tarot is not science), ore you seek help to get it stopped, from someone who is not just interestet in getting data.
God Bless

I like the team, they are very good, however I dont think anyone can get rid of this thing, but a religious person like a Priest or Pastor. Calls will be made tomorrow. I have been to investigations before and they always use something whether it be a seance, cards etc just whatever can conjure up whats around. Her cards meant nothing more than a tool, because what she read was sort of personal stuff about me, that she had no way of knowing but I just listened. They have enough data and I had alot before I even called them, so I am not worried about that. I am taking control of this, so thanks.

In my younger years I got a kick out of "being haunted" it was very interesting for me although it freaked my friends out no end. They would see strange people staring at them out of windows when they came to visit. They would hear noises and voices. One friend a sceptic had his nose bloodied when he mocked the existance of spirits. Loud bangs bright flashes of light...the list goes on. Eventualy it gets boring and then it is quite a struggle to remove these entities. Fortunately I had the tools to do the job of removal. Some people are not so lucky and thier life becomes a torment. So now I help people with similar problems. Not that I find many or go actively seeking them. Sometimes I don't even tell them they have been "helped".

When you decide you "really" want rid of them you need to make some permanent changes, at the moment it sounds like only one spirit is creeping you out and the others are interesting. Don't worry, if you decide to get rid of these things you can still go back should life get too boring

Actualy there are a lot more people than just priests and pastors that can get rid of this guy. I know at least 3 people on this forum and none of them are holy men/women who could probably move this beastie on.

greetz from Barekville....
Houston, we have a problem........ (you rock BTW! )
you can even see the ectoplasm!..... ..AND you just know someone is going to reply with: "um, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking for here, Barek......duh ".......B

WOW Cool, send one over. Better yet, send them all over!!!

Where did all that come from?

look again....

OMG I have all that ectoplasm in my bedroom? EEEEEEEKKKK

the TV is left to your interpretation......but the blue blurr is interesting..........B






halfhandshuffle:doors-breakonthru
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tah0OnS3nBU

It is interesting and I have zoomed in and out, edited a million times and still dont know what the image is. TV was off, I did on purpose cause my son said that he heard a voice there once when it was off. This was just a random shot, taken for soul purpose of an orb or something I could explain to him. Obviously now I cannot explain it..ha ha