QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 01:55 PM) [snapback]1641192[/snapback]
What I dont understand is why they are so smart?
If it is a ghost, it is as smart as a human, if it is a demon, it is as smart as an angel.
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If it is a ghost, it is as smart as a human, if it is a demon, it is as smart as an angel.
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]1641201[/snapback]
Oh wow this is getting high school. You must feel all proud you ended with that remark. What's that all about? Like I was trying to defeat you or something.
I'm not trying to start a fight. It seems people refuse to have friendly debates. That's not my problem.
I'm not trying to start a fight. It seems people refuse to have friendly debates. That's not my problem.
Now now, lets all get along and dont make me come over there!!!
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]1641204[/snapback]
Now now, lets all get along and dont make me come over there!!!
You are absolutely right, i just get upset, when someone is atacking without reason, thinking they know everything, when there MIGHT be something they dont know.
Sorry, you dont have to come here - its a long journey
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]1641199[/snapback]
AWWWWWWWWWWW Thank you so much, prayers would be great. I had no idea about recordings at the time, I was just trying to hear what was on the radio, then when I heard my name, I got more curious. I didnt want to bargain with him, then again I never found the medicine. There is safety in numbers, and safety in prayer..THANK YOU!! This was taken in the living room, with TV off. The blue haze on TV has not been determined yet, and either has that circle thing. On the top of the TV on the left, there is an image of a woman. It actually extends above the wooden part of the wood. Obviously we do see the flash on tv screen. Any thoughts?
Prayers is always a good thing, and there are more of them comming your way.
The second picture, is also a little hard to speak about. I do se an "anormali" in the red square, but it is impossible to tell what it is (and i have enlarged it alot)
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 09:03 AM) [snapback]1641201[/snapback]
Oh wow this is getting high school. You must feel all proud you ended with that remark. What's that all about? Like I was trying to defeat you or something.
I'm not trying to start a fight. It seems people refuse to have friendly debates. That's not my problem.
Not high school at all, it just seems that you are a tad arrogant in your assertion that YOU are the residing expert here and that YOU know what you are talking about....do you honestly think only YOU have had had success in this area? my point is not to discredit anyone elses POV because as much as I do agree with you on much of this topic, I also think you are wrong on some aspects of it....BUT the point here is to get rid of a SCUMBAG spirit, SO our bickering is not going to help her a bit right?......(standing down)........b
I'm not trying to start a fight. It seems people refuse to have friendly debates. That's not my problem.
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 02:10 PM) [snapback]1641208[/snapback]
You are absolutely right, i just get upset, when someone is atacking without reason, thinking they know everything, when there MIGHT be something they dont know.
Sorry, you dont have to come here - its a long journey
Sorry, you dont have to come here - its a long journey
I understand but try and remember this is the Internet and everyone is different, and have different thoughs and opinions. What Country do you live in? I am the United States..
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]1641198[/snapback]
And you supose you know everything???
I have years of experience with demons, not just 24 hours! I see them and i fight them, on a regular basis, are you?
If you had read my posts, instead of atacking me, for something about me, that you now nothing about, you would realise, that i also am trying to help, and that i do have experiense, also with ghosts!
If you had borthered to read my first post, you would know, that i surgestet the same solution as you are!!!!
I can tell you that i am a christian to, from a catholic bagground, and i am a member of a pentacostal minestrie, so i do know, the Lord, The Spirit, and the demons, and what there powers and strenghs are, and i do know, that it is not always just to "snap your fingers" and then they are gone. Read your Bible, and the history of exorcism, and you will know, that it is not always that easy, but of course it can be.
When you are portraing yourself as a christian, i think you should be werry carefull attacking people, and be so full of your self, it is not werry christian.
I have years of experience with demons, not just 24 hours! I see them and i fight them, on a regular basis, are you?
If you had read my posts, instead of atacking me, for something about me, that you now nothing about, you would realise, that i also am trying to help, and that i do have experiense, also with ghosts!
If you had borthered to read my first post, you would know, that i surgestet the same solution as you are!!!!
I can tell you that i am a christian to, from a catholic bagground, and i am a member of a pentacostal minestrie, so i do know, the Lord, The Spirit, and the demons, and what there powers and strenghs are, and i do know, that it is not always just to "snap your fingers" and then they are gone. Read your Bible, and the history of exorcism, and you will know, that it is not always that easy, but of course it can be.
When you are portraing yourself as a christian, i think you should be werry carefull attacking people, and be so full of your self, it is not werry christian.
I wasn't attacking anyone. I get this often and quite frankly people are quick to jump to conclusions. It's easy to take offense to something someone writes. If you heard me say half of the things to you face to face. You wouldn't be telling me this. One thing I am not is full of myself. Confidence can be confused with pride so can boldness. If you want to go there, a Christian would not tell someone they are not acting Christian. They would pray for that person and leave it in GOD's hands, otherwise you're passing judgement. But if you must, the bible says to go to your brother or sister in love and show them their wrongs.
Not every Christian fights demons on a daily basis. That doesn't determine your rankings as a Christian. Every Christian has a different gift and duty. Again just because I mentioned one experience of a fight for 24hrs. doesn't mean that's the only one I've had and that doesn't determine my experience or make me any less of a God warrior. It was in context with what I was speaking about...it's not going to take weeks to get rid of it. A room full of God's anointed will get rid of them pronto. I could say something but that wouldn't be Christian. So I'll hold my tongue.
God bless you. And if I did say something to offend you forgive me, pray God shows me how to express myself clearer.
Very interesting.
My wife and her aunt had an experience when her uncle died quite similar. A tall dark hooded figure with no face hovered in the corner of the room they were sitting in for several hours. Luckily he vanished and never returned.
Also, spirits seem to use things like fans, clocks, running water, or even televisions, telephones, or pillows (yes pillows), to communicate verbally through, I've had this experience as well and it's quite disturbing.
I've had a spirit tell me to "turn the fan on", and never understood why they would want the fan running, until I turned it on and heard a voice and music playing from it.
About uploading the pics. Do you know how to do it? Or is it just not working correctly?
There's a couple photos I have that if I try and upload them to an image server to post them here, something always screws up.
I figure "someone" doesn't want them posted so I stopped trying. If anyone here can be of any help please don't hesitate to ask.
tc
My wife and her aunt had an experience when her uncle died quite similar. A tall dark hooded figure with no face hovered in the corner of the room they were sitting in for several hours. Luckily he vanished and never returned.
Also, spirits seem to use things like fans, clocks, running water, or even televisions, telephones, or pillows (yes pillows), to communicate verbally through, I've had this experience as well and it's quite disturbing.
I've had a spirit tell me to "turn the fan on", and never understood why they would want the fan running, until I turned it on and heard a voice and music playing from it.
About uploading the pics. Do you know how to do it? Or is it just not working correctly?
There's a couple photos I have that if I try and upload them to an image server to post them here, something always screws up.
I figure "someone" doesn't want them posted so I stopped trying. If anyone here can be of any help please don't hesitate to ask.
tc
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 02:21 PM) [snapback]1641215[/snapback]
I understand but try and remember this is the Internet and everyone is different, and have different thoughs and opinions. What Country do you live in? I am the United States..
I DO have great respect for peoples different openions, and i dont think i have talked ill ore degrading on annyones openion. All i did was talking out of my knowledge and experience, but i newer claimed to know ALL the truth about annything - I AM werry humble about that (read my posts in other threads in this forum, i use the phrases "I think" "i beleive" "it is mu oppenion" and so on.
I feel i was attacked, and was only defendig my self, trying to defent my self from what Barek calls arrogance.
I caome from Denmark.
If you click on the membername beside a post, you got the option "wiew members profile" there you can learn something on who you are talking with
QUOTE(Thozzman @ Apr 22 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]1641217[/snapback]
Very interesting.
My wife and her aunt had an experience when her uncle died quite similar. A tall dark hooded figure with no face hovered in the corner of the room they were sitting in for several hours. Luckily he vanished and never returned.
Also, spirits seem to use things like fans, clocks, running water, or even televisions, telephones, or pillows (yes pillows), to communicate verbally through, I've had this experience as well and it's quite disturbing.
I've had a spirit tell me to "turn the fan on", and never understood why they would want the fan running, until I turned it on and heard a voice and music playing from it.
About uploading the pics. Do you know how to do it? Or is it just not working correctly?
There's a couple photos I have that if I try and upload them to an image server to post them here, something always screws up.
I figure "someone" doesn't want them posted so I stopped trying. If anyone here can be of any help please don't hesitate to ask.
tc
My wife and her aunt had an experience when her uncle died quite similar. A tall dark hooded figure with no face hovered in the corner of the room they were sitting in for several hours. Luckily he vanished and never returned.
Also, spirits seem to use things like fans, clocks, running water, or even televisions, telephones, or pillows (yes pillows), to communicate verbally through, I've had this experience as well and it's quite disturbing.
I've had a spirit tell me to "turn the fan on", and never understood why they would want the fan running, until I turned it on and heard a voice and music playing from it.
About uploading the pics. Do you know how to do it? Or is it just not working correctly?
There's a couple photos I have that if I try and upload them to an image server to post them here, something always screws up.
I figure "someone" doesn't want them posted so I stopped trying. If anyone here can be of any help please don't hesitate to ask.
tc
Its funny you should mention the fan, because the team recorded in that room with and without fan. But I could SWEAR there is sound coming from that fan, but thought it was my imagination, thanks. The only odd thing that happens with the phone is, every single time my boyfriend calls, it does not ring, but goes into my secondary answer machine, and I dont get his message till hours later, and sometimes not at all. I can be sitting by the phone and later I see his number on caller ID, but it never rang, he says it did. UGH..I do know how to upload now, but mine are distorted once I make them smaller. What I did, was right click on the picture, zoom to make it smaller and save to desktop, then come back here, and upload..
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 02:32 PM) [snapback]1641224[/snapback]
I DO have great respect for peoples different openions, and i dont think i have talked ill ore degrading on annyones openion. All i did was talking out of my knowledge and experience, but i newer claimed to know ALL the truth about annything - I AM werry humble about that (read my posts in other threads in this forum, i use the phrases "I think" "i beleive" "it is mu oppenion" and so on.
I feel i was attacked, and was only defendig my self, trying to defent my self from what Barek calls arrogance.
I caome from Denmark.
If you click on the membername beside a post, you got the option "wiew members profile" there you can learn something on who you are talking with
I feel i was attacked, and was only defendig my self, trying to defent my self from what Barek calls arrogance.
I caome from Denmark.
If you click on the membername beside a post, you got the option "wiew members profile" there you can learn something on who you are talking with
I respect your opinions and taking them into my heart, and head. It is just such a validation to know this DOES happen, and not just to me, so as I said, I do not feel so alone any longer. WOW Denmark? Thats far from me lol
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]1641216[/snapback]
I wasn't attacking anyone. I get this often and quite frankly people are quick to jump to conclusions. It's easy to take offense to something someone writes. If you heard me say half of the things to you face to face. You wouldn't be telling me this.
I know that, thats why i chose my words werry carefully. If you know that you might be more carefull whith your words when you post something.
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]1641216[/snapback]
If you want to go there, a Christian would not tell someone they are not acting Christian.
That was NOT the way i says it, i was werry carefull, chosing my words.
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]1641216[/snapback]
If you want to go there, a Christian would not tell someone they are not acting Christian.
Somehow you are doing that now.
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]1641216[/snapback]
They would pray for that person and leave it in GOD's hands, otherwise you're passing judgement. But if you must, the bible says to go to your brother or sister in love and show them their wrongs.
That was exactly what i was doing.
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]1641216[/snapback]
Not every Christian fights demons on a daily basis. That doesn't determine your rankings as a Christian.
Did i say that? I am shure i didnt, try read my post again!
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]1641216[/snapback]
Again just because I mentioned one experience of a fight for 24hrs. doesn't mean that's the only one I've had
Your right, i was wrong there.
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]1641216[/snapback]
and that doesn't determine my experience or make me any less of a God warrior.
I didnt say that either!!!! (where do you get these things from, it still sounds to me, as if you WILL pick a fight!)
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]1641216[/snapback]
It was in context with what I was speaking about...it's not going to take weeks to get rid of it. A room full of God's anointed will get rid of them pronto.
You obviously knows something, that all the chatolic an pentacostal christianity dont know.
You are the first one i heard, who says they know something about these things, that says it is that easy. Again - read the Bible and the history of exorsism. Manny stories of fights going on for days, and weeks!!!!
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]1641216[/snapback]
I could say something but that wouldn't be Christian. So I'll hold my tongue.
Please do, i hold mine
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]1641216[/snapback]
God bless you. And if I did say something to offend you forgive me, pray God shows me how to express myself clearer.
You too Sister ore Brother
Denmark is different from New York. Born Again Christian New Yorkers are fiesty. One shouldn't assume arrogance. That explains a lot.
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 02:37 PM) [snapback]1641235[/snapback]
I respect your opinions and taking them into my heart, and head. It is just such a validation to know this DOES happen, and not just to me, so as I said, I do not feel so alone any longer. WOW Denmark? Thats far from me lol
There is a great help in talking to someone who takes you serious - thats true
Glad i could help.Is it far from you, where do you live, you didnt say in your profile.
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 02:59 PM) [snapback]1641265[/snapback]
Denmark is different from New York. Born Again Christian New Yorkers are fiesty. One shouldn't assume arrogance. That explains a lot.
Well - it might
Let me just tell you how I am so maybe you can get to know me a lil better.
I am a generally speaking type of person. Half of the things I said I KNOW that you didn't say. But I was speaking generally. Not directed to you.
The other thing was pretty clear, since I said if you want to go there..basically I was too lol. It's a defense mechanism. I don't mean it. I do read my bible and I know how long it can go on for. But it doesn't always happen that way. It doesn't always have to. That's my point. And in giving advice to someone you have confidence and faith that it will work out for their best interest. Yes everyone is different and so are their spiritual experiences, but you have to give that person hope to lift them up and stregthen them. Not fill them with more dread. Also lifestyles may play a part in why this blew up. We live differently. We understand differently. This was all a miscommunication. & it's not going to happen again.
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]1641265[/snapback]
Denmark is different from New York. Born Again Christian . One shouldn't assume arrogance. That explains a lot.
New Yorkers are fiesty! I spent a week in long Island last year ...there were chicks in the World Gym there that I swear could kick my butt! 
I retract the arrogance comment ........B
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 03:10 PM) [snapback]1641287[/snapback]
Let me just tell you how I am so maybe you can get to know me a lil better.
I am a generally speaking type of person. Half of the things I said I KNOW that you didn't say. But I was speaking generally. Not directed to you.
The other thing was pretty clear, since I said if you want to go there..basically I was too lol. It's a defense mechanism. I don't mean it. I do read my bible and I know how long it can go on for. But it doesn't always happen that way. It doesn't always have to. That's my point. And in giving advice to someone you have confidence and faith that it will work out for their best interest. Yes everyone is different and so are their spiritual experiences, but you have to give that person hope to lift them up and stregthen them. Not fill them with more dread. Also lifestyles may play a part in why this blew up. We live differently. We understand differently. This was all a miscommunication. & it's not going to happen again.
I am a generally speaking type of person. Half of the things I said I KNOW that you didn't say. But I was speaking generally. Not directed to you.
The other thing was pretty clear, since I said if you want to go there..basically I was too lol. It's a defense mechanism. I don't mean it. I do read my bible and I know how long it can go on for. But it doesn't always happen that way. It doesn't always have to. That's my point. And in giving advice to someone you have confidence and faith that it will work out for their best interest. Yes everyone is different and so are their spiritual experiences, but you have to give that person hope to lift them up and stregthen them. Not fill them with more dread. Also lifestyles may play a part in why this blew up. We live differently. We understand differently. This was all a miscommunication. & it's not going to happen again.
Nice we agree, this has gotten to far, lets try to help here
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 03:01 PM) [snapback]1641268[/snapback]
There is a great help in talking to someone who takes you serious - thats true Glad i could help.
Is it far from you, where do you live, you didnt say in your profile.
Glad i could help.Is it far from you, where do you live, you didnt say in your profile.
I live in the United States. Sorry, just started posting yesterday so no profile yet. I need EVERYONE here to focus who is psychic and help me find my son's medicine. It was in a drawer yesterday morning and this morning they just disappeared, which is happening to many items lately, but he needs them..I dreamt about them for some reason, and no clue why. I have meditated and I can't visualize where they are. NO ONE has been here since he took them yesterday, just he and I. God help us, I cannot take much more here..
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]1641296[/snapback]
I live in the United States. Sorry, just started posting yesterday so no profile yet. I need EVERYONE here to focus who is psychic and help me find my son's medicine. It was in a drawer yesterday morning and this morning they just disappeared, which is happening to many items lately, but he needs them..I dreamt about them for some reason, and no clue why. I have meditated and I can't visualize where they are. NO ONE has been here since he took them yesterday, just he and I. God help us, I cannot take much more here..
I dont think that i have the gift of seeing things this way, but when i read this post, i got a "picture/feeling" so i will give it to you, and pray for the best.
Can it be on top of a closet ore something like that (heigh up) in a corner of a room? (maybe a refiguator - that is not spelled right - i know)
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]1641296[/snapback]
I live in the United States. Sorry, just started posting yesterday so no profile yet. I need EVERYONE here to focus who is psychic and help me find my son's medicine. It was in a drawer yesterday morning and this morning they just disappeared, which is happening to many items lately, but he needs them..I dreamt about them for some reason, and no clue why. I have meditated and I can't visualize where they are. NO ONE has been here since he took them yesterday, just he and I. God help us, I cannot take much more here..
Well I will pray that you find it, ask God to point you in the right direction.
Uhm have you tried under beds? in the corner of draws. Under tables, dressers, any place tiny that maybe you haven't thought to look yet. Blankets, check pillow cases.
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]1641296[/snapback]
I live in the United States. Sorry, just started posting yesterday so no profile yet. I need EVERYONE here to focus who is psychic and help me find my son's medicine. It was in a drawer yesterday morning and this morning they just disappeared, which is happening to many items lately, but he needs them..I dreamt about them for some reason, and no clue why. I have meditated and I can't visualize where they are. NO ONE has been here since he took them yesterday, just he and I. God help us, I cannot take much more here..
Oh this may seem weird but check in your shoes, his. Any sneakers or boots. You never know.
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 03:29 PM) [snapback]1641301[/snapback]
I dont think that i have the gift of seeing things this way, but when i read this post, i got a "picture/feeling" so i will give it to you, and pray for the best.
Can it be on top of a closet ore something like that (heigh up) in a corner of a room? (maybe a refiguator - that is not spelled right - i know)
Can it be on top of a closet ore something like that (heigh up) in a corner of a room? (maybe a refiguator - that is not spelled right - i know)
Thank you and NO, we are checking everywhere to no avail. I checked my entire bedroom, kitchen, tub room (where the images were caught according to investigators) but NOTHING. They just disappeared..OMG..I get feelings too and can visualize the bottle but I cannot find it..
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 03:35 PM) [snapback]1641310[/snapback]
Well I will pray that you find it, ask God to point you in the right direction.
Uhm have you tried under beds? in the corner of draws. Under tables, dressers, any place tiny that maybe you haven't thought to look yet. Blankets, check pillow cases.
Uhm have you tried under beds? in the corner of draws. Under tables, dressers, any place tiny that maybe you haven't thought to look yet. Blankets, check pillow cases.
Yes he sleeps on the sofa and I sleep in the bedroom, and we continue to look, but have yet to be located but they HAVE to be here..Once he leaves for his friend's funeral I am going to pray and meditate and see what I come up with. Same thing happened last week. I do smoke which I am not proud of, but while my son and I did some recordings my cigarettes went missing for over two hours. I asked IT "where are my cigarettes?" LOL He said "I dont know" and I said YES you do. Then he said something about a "wave" which made no sense, till my son realized he should look under the Microwave cart and there they were. I dont want to talk to IT..Thanks for the help and prayers..
One time when I lost my medication I found it in the refrigerator ...have him retrace his steps before and after he thinks he put the drawer...I keep thinking kitchen for some reason.....look in gabage cans as well......B
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 22 2007, 04:01 PM) [snapback]1641331[/snapback]
One time when I lost my medication I found it in the refrigerator ...have him retrace his steps before and after he thinks he put the drawer...I keep thinking kitchen for some reason.....look in gabage cans as well......B
He and I discussed this and he said yesterday when he woke up, he took the medicine, and put it back in drawer, he went out to do errands for us, came back and went out last night. I was the only one here. I checked the fridge, the freezer, even the oven, under tables. I just went through all the trash bag, and nothing. I checked his shoes but he has others I will check, thanks..
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 22 2007, 04:01 PM) [snapback]1641331[/snapback]
One time when I lost my medication I found it in the refrigerator ...have him retrace his steps before and after he thinks he put the drawer...I keep thinking kitchen for some reason.....look in gabage cans as well......B
You wont believe this, but my son just called on the way to the funeral. Something told him to check MY glove compartment in my truck and there was his prescription, clear as day just sitting there. He never drives my vehicle he has his own, but I let him take it today to pick up friends for the funeral. When I went out earlier I was looking for a cigarette lighter and looked ALL through that glove compartment and no medicine, just paperwork for my vehicle. FREAKY with a great ending. Thanks to ALL of you for the prayers, and once he left I did too and asked God to guide us in the right direction, and minutes later he called. WOW..
Praise God
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 05:09 PM) [snapback]1641398[/snapback]
Praise God
That is for sure, he needs that medicine and his doctor is on vacation. I am not even going to question as to how it got into my truck. THANK YOU
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 11:53 AM) [snapback]1641379[/snapback]
You wont believe this, but my son just called on the way to the funeral. Something told him to check MY glove compartment in my truck and there was his prescription, clear as day just sitting there. He never drives my vehicle he has his own, but I let him take it today to pick up friends for the funeral. When I went out earlier I was looking for a cigarette lighter and looked ALL through that glove compartment and no medicine, just paperwork for my vehicle. FREAKY with a great ending. Thanks to ALL of you for the prayers, and once he left I did too and asked God to guide us in the right direction, and minutes later he called. WOW..
great!...how it got in there? who knows... but I suspect your faith helped more than you think....much the way it well help you free yourself of this cowardly preditor.......I have been advised against confronting these things aggressively , but something tells me the humiliation of being identified as a coward will send this sub-spirit running ...but hold off on that for now though!.......B
he can run....but he can't hide....
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 22 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]1641488[/snapback]
great!...how it got in there? who knows... but I suspect your faith helped more than you think....much the way it well help you free yourself of this cowardly preditor....
...I have beeen advised against confronting these things aggressively , but something tells me the humiliation of being identified as a coward will send this sub-spririt running ...but hold off on that for now though!.......B
he can run....but he can't hide....
...I have beeen advised against confronting these things aggressively , but something tells me the humiliation of being identified as a coward will send this sub-spririt running ...but hold off on that for now though!.......B
he can run....but he can't hide....
Well Barek, you are right, heads on first, straight forward, CHAAAARGEEE - and kick it in the b.... - That is a werry good idea, but ONLY if you know who you are dealing with, what you are dealing with, if you got the strengh, and if you are absoloutly shure you have all of The Good Gods holy angels ready to cach you if your curage fails in the decisive moment, then it is the best way (that is the way i my self aproach these bastards) BUT ALL OF THE MENTIONED THINGS HAVE TO BE IN PLACE, otherwise you could end up, much worse than you startet.
So as you sayd - Hold off on that for now!
There is nothing as a good demonslaying before breakfeast, to sharpen your appetite for life
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 22 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]1641488[/snapback]
great!...how it got in there? who knows... but I suspect your faith helped more than you think....much the way it well help you free yourself of this cowardly preditor....
...I have beeen advised against confronting these things aggressively , but something tells me the humiliation of being identified as a coward will send this sub-spririt running ...but hold off on that for now though!.......B
he can run....but he can't hide....
...I have beeen advised against confronting these things aggressively , but something tells me the humiliation of being identified as a coward will send this sub-spririt running ...but hold off on that for now though!.......B
he can run....but he can't hide....
LOL So its time for me to kick his butt?..PS He can hide, I cant
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 07:27 PM) [snapback]1641501[/snapback]
Well Barek, you are right, heads on first, straight forward, ChAAAARGEEE - and kick it in the b.... - That is a werry good idea, but ONLY if you know who you are dealing with, what you are dealing with, if you got the strengh, and if you are absoloutly shure you have all of The Good Gods holy angels ready to cach you if your curage fails in the decisive moment, then it is the best way (that is the way i my self aproach these bastards) BUT ALL OF THE MENTIONED THINGS HAVE TO BE IN PLACE, otherwise you could end up, much worse than you startet.
So as you sayd - Hold off on that for now!
There is nothing as a good demonslaying before breakfeast, to sharpen your appetite for life
So as you sayd - Hold off on that for now!
There is nothing as a good demonslaying before breakfeast, to sharpen your appetite for life
LOL I am very brave during the day time, but the darker it gets, and the later it gets, I become the wimp here...But I DO refuse to let him win, or take over. I just dont want to get harmed again, or he will (not) live to regret it---
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]1641520[/snapback]
But I DO refuse to let him win, or take over. I just dont want to get harmed again, or he will (not) live to regret it---
Thats the spirit
(get it?)Of cause either Barek ore i (i think i can talk for Barek on this one) expect you to to start an exosism on your own, but your attitude towards whatever it is, is werry important.
Be firm, stand your ground, and speak up, but dont provoke it.
The best advice must be to hurry up, and get some profecional help from a church. As a christian i would have to say a christian church, some preist and pastors have experienses whith this.
I will not recomend psycics and clairvoiants. I know there are some that is both sensere and good at this, but there also is a lot of them, who is in it for the monney, and some who really dont know what they are doing. In a church you get it for free (nice) and they will send someone, who has the knowledge, and the spiritual strengh.
God Bless You
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 02:43 PM) [snapback]1641520[/snapback]
LOL I am very brave during the day time, but the darker it gets, and the later it gets, I become the wimp here...But I DO refuse to let him win, or take over. I just dont want to get harmed again, or he will (not) live to regret it---
I dont think you are in any immediate danger, in fact the thing is getting pounded already, seems as though you have LOTS of positive thoughts heading your direction...just because only a certain number of people replied that doesnt mean a lot more people aren't thinking and or praying about you right?SO in my opinion your shield is pretty strong right now...concentrate on keeping it that way....and the next time you get scared just think of kroll in his "jester" oufit
..(seriously) humor really kicks ass......it was described to me as being on much too high of a frequency for them to penetrate ....I believe this to be true......B
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 08:15 PM) [snapback]1641541[/snapback]
Thats the spirit (get it?)
Of cause either Barek ore i (i think i can talk for Barek on this one) expect you to to start an exosism on your own, but your attitude towards whatever it is, is werry important.
Be firm, stand your ground, and speak up, but dont provoke it.
The best advice must be to hurry up, and get some profecional help from a church. As a christian i would have to say a christian church, some preist and pastors have experienses whith this.
I will not recomend psycics and clairvoiants. I know there are some that is both sensere and good at this, but there also is a lot of them, who is in it for the monney, and some who really dont know what they are doing. In a church you get it for free (nice) and they will send someone, who has the knowledge, and the spiritual strengh.
God Bless You
(get it?)Of cause either Barek ore i (i think i can talk for Barek on this one) expect you to to start an exosism on your own, but your attitude towards whatever it is, is werry important.
Be firm, stand your ground, and speak up, but dont provoke it.
The best advice must be to hurry up, and get some profecional help from a church. As a christian i would have to say a christian church, some preist and pastors have experienses whith this.
I will not recomend psycics and clairvoiants. I know there are some that is both sensere and good at this, but there also is a lot of them, who is in it for the monney, and some who really dont know what they are doing. In a church you get it for free (nice) and they will send someone, who has the knowledge, and the spiritual strengh.
God Bless You
THe investigators had said if this is demonic, they use a wicca, but that doesnt do it for me. So I agree with you. I WILL make some calls tomorrow to churches etc, I am SO done living like this. Pretty bad when my doctor asked if I was a victim of domestic violence, and I am looking for medication in the oven LOL..Yes this cannot go on, its a terrible way for anyone to live..I just emailed the team and pleaded with them to send me at least one picture so I know what I am dealing with. Hope to hear from them soon. Every minute seems like a week. God Bless you too and thank God I found this site. You are wonderfully supportive, and knowledgable people. I KNOW there is a reason for everything..
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]1641541[/snapback]
(i think i can talk for Barek on this one) expect you to to start an exosism on your own, but your attitude towards whatever it is, is werry important.
Be firm, stand your ground, and speak up, but dont provoke it
Be firm, stand your ground, and speak up, but dont provoke it
that works for me....for some reason I want to think the provocation aspect of it should only be carried out by a priest, pastor or an adept spiritual guide.......I always want to FIGHT when it comes to this type of thing ....much the way I always want to beat the crap out of child molesters and rapists that are regestered in my area.....I believe that sexual sadists and preditors CANNOT be redeemed in life or death.........B
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 08:46 PM) [snapback]1641571[/snapback]
I WILL make some calls tomorrow to churches etc, I am SO done living like this.
And God will lead you to the right one.
I dont know if you seen the pictures Barek talks about (it was in another thread) but to enlighten your spirit with a good laugh, i will post them for you here, since Barek thinks it is good medicine.
Just have a good laugh, i can take it, but the bully in your home cant
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 12:02 AM) [snapback]1640873[/snapback]
Thank you SO much for your understanding and rational words, it does give me some comfort. At least I know I am not totally alone in this world. Actually I bought the bookcase from an Antique store, and after a few nasty encounters and strange imaqes seen every time I took a pic of it, and that incubus episode, I felt I needed to sell it. The man that bought it claimed to be a medium and I just found him in the yellow pages. We talked for hours, but something about him made me uncomfortable. Anyway he said I should MOVE and I said no, this is my home. He ended up selling it a few days later even tho he said he wanted to keep it, after seeing the pics I had taken. I lived on second floor when my mom died in 1981, and had been there for a few years before and bought a home and got out of here. I moved back in 1993. I dont recall any activity up here till the past few years, but they all appeared to be harmless sounds, things being moved and I am used to that and laughed it off. Another thing, is about a year ago I began getting messages from deceased people, and I would in turn share it with the person it was intended for, even strangers online. The accuracy is amazing, and I enjoyed it, till this. I DO believe this has to do with me, and what I somehow attracted, while helping others. I guess we can all be open to good and bad but this is just insane!! I have chosen to STOP listening to messages, and shrug them off even tho they are still there. I never expected to have a demonic or scary situation, after all Ive been like this my entire life. I REALLY liked what you said about commands/demands, that now makes sense, thank you. I never thought of that. He tries to tell me what to do and the team as well. When we performed a seance the other night, he tapped many times when asked if he was here, if it was male, if this was about me etc. Then he just stopped. The camera guy was frustrated because his batteries were dying constantly, during that seance. Also I was the one who got the horrible odor of ammonia, omg it was strong but no one else got it. They said that meant a demonic presence and I had never heard that before. I just feel there has been a good soul here for a long time, but like you said, I could be fooled. How can they be smarter than us? I feel like running away but I wont, but I cannot take another fall, or trip, that is the only part that makes all this dangerous. My Dad was Jewish and Mom was Catholic so I was raised by both faiths. When I became an adult I decided Catholcism was not for me, so I DO believe in God, I pray every day of my life for my children and for strength. This is probably the worst experience of my life, but you have helped and I cannot wait to get the pictures and EVP's but to be honest, I am terrified to even look at them when I do get them..Thanks again
No problem I am happy to help. I know someone who has the same situation going on in her life with the ghostly messages. She says that sometimes they get so bad that she cant handle them. And yes she too has attracted entities to herself before. I even saw one in her bedroom one time in full form.
One thing about ghosts is that they have obviously been around the block longer than us or atleast since their birth and death and have seen everything inbetween and beyond during their hauntings. And Demons should never be underestimated. Look at it this way, they have been around longer than anyone. People tend to forget that they were there when we were created and since have had a hand in everything done on this earth. For example who knows the machine better than those who built it? They are decievers and liars all of them. They are the bully on the block pushing around the little ones and the scared ones. And yes the horrid smell is a dead give away for something demonic.
Just remember that you are what the might of Christ and the Holy Father conducts through. Keep faith in your belief that what ever this is, no matter how much it hurts you or scares you, you still have power over it. That is why they play the bully. They know what strenght and power dwells inside you and they fear it. They want you to believe that you dont have power over them. That their power is absolute and nothing can stop them. That you must submit to them. Dont you believe it. Stare down your enemy. look directly into the darkness and the fear. Demand it to leave and show it your strength. Pull it's bluff. Just remeber who's got your back. Like the son in the Rose is Rose comic. The little boy has the little cute gaurdian angel who turns into a twenty foot bad ass when he gets scared or something scary happens to him. You have the same even if you dont see or hear it. God is allways there for you no matter what.
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]1641516[/snapback]
When we performed a seance the other night, he tapped many times when asked if he was here, if it was male, if this was about me etc. Then he just stopped. The camera guy was frustrated because his batteries were dying constantly, during that seance. Also I was the one who got the horrible odor of ammonia, omg it was strong but no one else got it. They said that meant a demonic presence and I had never heard that before.
also in addition to laying off the recordings,laying off the seances complete with amonia reeking demons is a good idea too (missed that).....B
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 23 2007, 01:04 AM) [snapback]1641792[/snapback]
also in addition to laying off the recordings,laying off the seances complete with amonia reeking demons is a good idea too (missed that).....B
I didnt do the seance with friends, this is a professional organization, and of course they try and record everything, that is why and how they do perform investigations. Once they have all the evidence, then we take it from there. I had NO idea what the smell of ammonia meant, never heard about it till the other night. There will not be anymore contact, it was done to conjure up what is here.
QUOTE(ND-DAVE @ Apr 22 2007, 10:35 PM) [snapback]1641695[/snapback]
No problem I am happy to help. I know someone who has the same situation going on in her life with the ghostly messages. She says that sometimes they get so bad that she cant handle them. And yes she too has attracted entities to herself before. I even saw one in her bedroom one time in full form.
One thing about ghosts is that they have obviously been around the block longer than us or atleast since their birth and death and have seen everything inbetween and beyond during their hauntings. And Demons should never be underestimated. Look at it this way, they have been around longer than anyone. People tend to forget that they were there when we were created and since have had a hand in everything done on this earth. For example who knows the machine better than those who built it? They are decievers and liars all of them. They are the bully on the block pushing around the little ones and the scared ones. And yes the horrid smell is a dead give away for something demonic.
Just remember that you are what the might of Christ and the Holy Father conducts through. Keep faith in your belief that what ever this is, no matter how much it hurts you or scares you, you still have power over it. That is why they play the bully. They know what strenght and power dwells inside you and they fear it. They want you to believe that you dont have power over them. That their power is absolute and nothing can stop them. That you must submit to them. Dont you believe it. Stare down your enemy. look directly into the darkness and the fear. Demand it to leave and show it your strength. Pull it's bluff. Just remeber who's got your back. Like the son in the Rose is Rose comic. The little boy has the little cute gaurdian angel who turns into a twenty foot bad ass when he gets scared or something scary happens to him. You have the same even if you dont see or hear it. God is allways there for you no matter what.
One thing about ghosts is that they have obviously been around the block longer than us or atleast since their birth and death and have seen everything inbetween and beyond during their hauntings. And Demons should never be underestimated. Look at it this way, they have been around longer than anyone. People tend to forget that they were there when we were created and since have had a hand in everything done on this earth. For example who knows the machine better than those who built it? They are decievers and liars all of them. They are the bully on the block pushing around the little ones and the scared ones. And yes the horrid smell is a dead give away for something demonic.
Just remember that you are what the might of Christ and the Holy Father conducts through. Keep faith in your belief that what ever this is, no matter how much it hurts you or scares you, you still have power over it. That is why they play the bully. They know what strenght and power dwells inside you and they fear it. They want you to believe that you dont have power over them. That their power is absolute and nothing can stop them. That you must submit to them. Dont you believe it. Stare down your enemy. look directly into the darkness and the fear. Demand it to leave and show it your strength. Pull it's bluff. Just remeber who's got your back. Like the son in the Rose is Rose comic. The little boy has the little cute gaurdian angel who turns into a twenty foot bad ass when he gets scared or something scary happens to him. You have the same even if you dont see or hear it. God is allways there for you no matter what.
WOW Thank you, very wise words..I SO appreciate it..
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 07:16 PM) [snapback]1641802[/snapback]
WOW Thank you, very wise words..I SO appreciate it..
No problem, like I said I am allways happy to help. Also I noticed while reading through a couple of the other posts that you have some pics and EVP recordings that are waiting to be evaluated. Any word on when those will be ready?
Hun when you call those churches, ask for a group of their strongest spiritual leaders/members. A group is far stronger than one. A group of anointed generates more spiritual energy against the demonic force in your home.
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 08:13 PM) [snapback]1641799[/snapback]
I didnt do the seance with friends, this is a professional organization, and of course they try and record everything, that is why and how they do perform investigations. Once they have all the evidence, then we take it from there. I had NO idea what the smell of ammonia meant, never heard about it till the other night. There will not be anymore contact, it was done to conjure up what is here.
not scolding here JN , just making a point, you also freely admitted to asking the entity to help you find your smokes right?all of that must stop!..... what is the teams current agenda as far as a cleansing goes?........BQUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 08:25 PM) [snapback]1641810[/snapback]
Hun when you call those churches, ask for a group of their strongest spiritual leaders/members. A group is far stronger than one. A group of anointed generates more spiritual energy against the demonic force in your home.
BETTER IDEA!
QUOTE(ND-DAVE @ Apr 23 2007, 01:21 AM) [snapback]1641804[/snapback]
No problem, like I said I am allways happy to help. Also I noticed while reading through a couple of the other posts that you have some pics and EVP recordings that are waiting to be evaluated. Any word on when those will be ready?
They were hoping to send a few pictures today but they said tomorrow at the latest. The EVP's, Cameras etc may take a few more days so the co-owner said, when I emailed him. Should not be much longer, they said last night they were working on them. He said the EVP's take time because they must decipher backgound noise, our voices and when they do hear something, they put it into slow motion to listen and document exactly what is being said. There are two working on pictures, and they had 19 disposable cameras, night vision cams, and camcorder things in every room. They also used Digital Cameras, so there is over 40 hours of stuff to go over. I am anxious tho and really need to know..But I know they are working at the best pace they can. Two different crews at two different locations. Part of me cant wait, and the other part of me is scared..
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 23 2007, 01:32 AM) [snapback]1641817[/snapback]
not scolding here JN , just making a point, you also freely admitted to asking the entity to help you find your smokes right?all of that must stop!..... what is the teams current agenda as far as a cleansing goes?........B
I know I never should have asked it where my smokes were, but this was before things got bad, I was just kinda having fun, but its not fun anymore. Some of it was a morbid curiousity, and that was my mind set at the time, but not anymore. When I pleaded with them to hear some of the EVP that freaked me out as you know. They then said that IF this was demonic, they would come back but with a different crew using wiccas, one experienced medium and if I wanted to call a priest or pastor I was welcome to do so. They mentioned having the entire house blessed and they didnt explain their cleansing process at that point. They have a great reputation in my State so I have to trust them until I am forced to take a different track. They did tell me to pray for St Michael, and put salt around my bed. So far thats all I know
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 23 2007, 01:33 AM) [snapback]1641819[/snapback]
BETTER IDEA!
Thank you, I never thought of that..
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]1641824[/snapback]
I know I never should have asked it where my smokes were, but this was before things got bad, I was just kinda having fun, but its not fun anymore. Some of it was a morbid curiousity, and that was my mind set at the time, but not anymore. When I pleaded with them to hear some of the EVP that freaked me out as you know. They then said that IF this was demonic, they would come back but with a different crew using wiccas, one experienced medium and if I wanted to call a priest or pastor I was welcome to do so. They mentioned having the entire house blessed and they didnt explain their cleansing process at that point. They have a great reputation in my State so I have to trust them until I am forced to take a different track. They did tell me to pray for St Michael, and put salt around my bed. So far thats all I know
okay so while you are waiting on the results, please do persue the blessing option they encouraged, I am not discrediting the team I am simply making sure that all of the options available to you are understood, now I am not saying a Wiccan cleansing wouldnt work either, your faith is a factor ..a HUGE factor...my advice; start with the church (most tried and tested) then let your crew do their thing, IF you are certain that they will not further escalate the problem...thanks for the clarification on the seance and such ....just getting cranky in my old age I spose......Bhalfhandshuffle:sid & nancy-my way
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