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JustNormal
Hi All, I am new here. I have had a great deal of paranormal activity in the old house I live in. There is a voice that speaks through my alarm clock, and fan. I have been physically pushed so hard and fast, have been to ER 3 times. I had a team of Paranormal Investigators come in Thursday night into Friday morning. Some of it was fun, but for the most part it was frightening. The first 16 minutes of the EVP is a voice, with a foul mouth telling them to GET THE F OUT, and OH CRAP he says 3 times, very clearly. I heard stuff like that before I even called them. This monster knows my name and my brother's. In any case, I just got a call from the head of the organization. He said in one room (where I was pushed) there is a HUGE black shrouded figure that takes up a good portion of the picture, and is over one of the members of the team, and another he is over me. They have other pictures of orbs, but very disturbing ones in the bedroom for fire, flames and bright red objects all over the place. They are sending me files by tomorrow once they are all reviewed. What does a black shrouded figure mean? What does fire mean? A few nights ago I saw a red wormy kinda thing in my ceiling, but that it was a reflection. I followed it with the naked eye and realized it continued to move, so took a picture of it. For some reason when I downloaded the CD the picture is cropped but on the real print, the image goes from ceiling to floor? Any ideas till they visit again? HELP..PS it wont even let me upload this picture..
Kroll1

That sounds pretty alarming.
If i where you, i would get out of there as soon as possible, if you are able to, and stay away for some time. When gone, i would get a priest to cleanse and bless the place, and do a exorsism.
I have also lived in a hauntet house for almost 2 years, but it never did anny harm to me or my friends, it was just there living with me.
When a entity is that mean and violent, i dont think it will stop at what it has acomplised so far, it will proberbly get worse, especially now you are starting to respond on it, by getting help from a investigationteam.
I beleive the only thing that might help, is a spiritual specialist, like a exorsist.

Can you upload the pictures an EVP from a friends computer, eventhou it must be pure terror for you, those pics and sounds, is werry interesting for others to see and hear.
MasterPo
Dittio. Like to see the pics and EVPs.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 21 2007, 03:57 PM) [snapback]1640281[/snapback]
I just got a call from the head of the organization. He said in one room (where I was pushed) there is a HUGE black shrouded figure that takes up a good portion of the picture, and is over one of the members of the team, and another he is over me.. What does a black shrouded figure mean?
hey JT
that is something I have been trying to pinpoint for the last few months, there are several theories, but the most generic or common term is "shadow entity" but this does not seem to fit the usual "shadow MO" ...... were there any discernable features on the face? red eyes maybe? any other history with paranormal activity ? really heavy nightmares? or bad vibes in certain places? Also what was the reaction from the investigator who phoned you? has he ever seen anything like that before or is this the first time ? I would imagine those pictures would make a nice addition to this post at some point. ........B


JustNormal
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 21 2007, 10:52 PM) [snapback]1640384[/snapback]
hey JT
that is something I have been trying to pinpoint for the last few months, there are several theories, but the most generic or common term is "shadow entity" but this does not seem to fit the usual "shadow MO" ...... were there any discernable features on the face? red eyes maybe? any other history with paranormal activity ? really heavy nightmares? or bad vibes in certain places? Also what was the reaction from the investigator who phoned you? has he ever seen anything like that before or is this the first time ? I would imagine those pictures would make a nice addition to this post at some point. ........B


Hi Barek, He said it didnt have a face, it was a HUGE black figure in a shroud, but the bottom of his body was missing. He said during video taping it moved around too. There has always been activity in this old house but over the past few months this started, with my getting pushed, tripped and hit. I had to tell my doctor the truth, and thank God he believed me. The EVP's according to the man, were horrific. I heard as I said, 16 minutes of it, and I was crying and hiding behind two men. There is alot of clicking when he speaks, and a great deal of foul language. That thing has been talking to me thru my alarm clock for weeks, and will say my name clearly, and my brother's name who does not live here. He will say things like "F..OFF".CLEAR..Everytime I wanted to share this, it deleted on it's own. SO the ones I did save I let the team hear over the phone, and friends, and my son, who is grown. He breathes like Darth Vader, and when I lay in bed I can hear it. I had an incident a year or so ago where I woke up around 3:0AM.. I was laying on my side, but what woke me was a man was laying behind me in I guess the spoon position, they call it? I could feel his breath on my neck, and I wanted to vomit. I was frozen with fear, and wide awake. Just as he went to put his hand over my mouth I jumped out of bed and screamed to my son, but there was no one in my bed. Three times I have been physically pushed out of the bed, and hit my head against the wall. It doesnt stop and I am scared for my safety. I will be more than happy to share pictures when I get them. BUT for some reason it wont let me upload a few I wanted to post here. I browse, find the pic, open it, I can see it in the box, then it says "you have not placed a file to upload." What am I doing wrong?
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 21 2007, 06:07 PM) [snapback]1640405[/snapback]
I had an incident a year or so ago where I woke up around 3:0AM.. I was laying on my side, but what woke me was a man was laying behind me in I guess the spoon position, they call it? I could feel his breath on my neck, and I wanted to vomit. I was frozen with fear, and wide awake. Just as he went to put his hand over my mouth I jumped out of bed and screamed to my son, but there was no one in my bed.
this is fairly typical, (except for the pushing that you get) the smothering sensation is common the "frozen with fear" is KEY....all I know is that these things seem to feed off of fear, anxiety, negative energy, whatever ....but all the voices and pushing that you have experiened along with the voices that seem to originate from the clock radio and fan...that may be something ELSE altogether ....this is hard to advise, but the fear is what they are after ....without that they are WIMPS! SO as hard as it is to say under the circumstances ...don't be scared!...hopefully some of the other regulars will have some imput for you on this one......B




when you upload a picture use the full "add reply"... click "browse" >> select pic from your PC >>press "upload" (you won't see yet) will say uploading , THEN click "add reply" and you should see you pictures on the actual post...
ND-DAVE
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 21 2007, 05:40 PM) [snapback]1640439[/snapback]
this is fairly typical, (except for the pushing that you get) the smothering sensation is common the "frozen with fear" is KEY....all I know is that these things seem to feed off of fear, anxiety, negative energy, whatever ....but all the voices and pushing that you have experiened along with the voices that seem to originate from the clock radio and fan...that may be something ELSE altogether ....this is hard to advise, but the fear is what they are after ....without that they are WIMPS! SO as hard as it is to say under the circumstances ...don't be scared!...hopefully some of the other regulars will have some imput for you on this one......B
when you upload a picture use the full "add reply"... click "browse" >> select pic from your PC >>press "upload" (you won't see yet) will say uploading , THEN click "add reply" and you should see you pictures on the actual post...


I agree with you here Barek. Not submitting is the key. I know plenty of idiots who thought and actually stated, "Wow! I have a haunted house! This is going to be fun!" Or "I dont care if there's a ghost or not. I'll just leave it alone and it will leave me alone." And then came crying to me after I warned them of what they were getting into. I dont know if you remember but I have that "Bully" theory I put out a few months back that explains the no submission idea.

Also, JustNormal I have delt with such things from both a personal and helping hand experience. So if you need any help or have any questions let me know.

And back to you Berek, out of all the Mad Max trilogy, if you had the chance to reach into the screen and beat the crap out of any character or bad guy in the series, who would it be? I just watched Thunderdome last night and I am having a hard time choosing between the queer with the doll head strapped to his back or the arena announcer.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 21 2007, 11:40 PM) [snapback]1640439[/snapback]
this is fairly typical, (except for the pushing that you get) the smothering sensation is common the "frozen with fear" is KEY....all I know is that these things seem to feed off of fear, anxiety, negative energy, whatever ....but all the voices and pushing that you have experiened along with the voices that seem to originate from the clock radio and fan...that may be something ELSE altogether ....this is hard to advise, but the fear is what they are after ....without that they are WIMPS! SO as hard as it is to say under the circumstances ...don't be scared!...hopefully some of the other regulars will have some imput for you on this one......B
when you upload a picture use the full "add reply"... click "browse" >> select pic from your PC >>press "upload" (you won't see yet) will say uploading , THEN click "add reply" and you should see you pictures on the actual post...


I know about the fear factor involved so that is why I have not let it get the best of me, and take control, but it takes over anyway. I just say GO AWAY but I am sure they sense my fear when it is such a "close" feeling. A few of the team sensed the same thing, but of course they werent scared. There is dicfinatey more than one spirit in this house, and up till this started nothing bothered me, even a little poltergeist activity. This is "personal" and that is what is so unnerving about it all. Thanks for the upload info. As I said I saw a red "rod" in my room, and followed it for quite sometime. Then I took when I got it developed I got a huge red grainy thing, its hard to see but let me try to upload it..thanks, Kathy
JustNormal
See if this works?
JustNormal
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 12:00 AM) [snapback]1640457[/snapback]
See if this works?


OOPPS I think the picture might be too big, it wont work! UGH
ND-DAVE
Hey, JustNormal. This is replying to what you posted to Barek above. I had a few questions and then maybe a few solutions.

First. Are religious in anyway? Doesnt matter what belief.

Second. What makes you believe that there are multiple entities in the house?

Third. You stated that at first the encounters were small and unnoticable. When did they actually begin to get extrieme? Also if you can think back to that time, what was going on in you life at the time? Both inner and outter. For example maybe a relationship breakup or perhaps a change in lifestyle or even perhaps a change of inner persona such as depression or excitement.

By the way if you dont feel comfortable answering any questions you can PM me or tell me so. With those questions I may be able to figure out something to help the situation or find a cause to the haunting.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(ND-DAVE @ Apr 21 2007, 06:57 PM) [snapback]1640453[/snapback]
I agree with you here Barek. Not submitting is the key. I know plenty of idiots who thought and actually stated, "Wow! I have a haunted house! This is going to be fun!" Or "I dont care if there's a ghost or not. I'll just leave it alone and it will leave me alone." And then came crying to me after I warned them of what they were getting into. I dont know if you remember but I have that "Bully" theory I put out a few months back that explains the no submission idea.

Also, JustNormal I have delt with such things from both a personal and helping hand experience. So if you need any help or have any questions let me know.

And back to you Berek, out of all the Mad Max trilogy, if you had the chance to reach into the screen and beat the crap out of any character or bad guy in the series, who would it be? I just watched Thunderdome last night and I am having a hard time choosing between the queer with the doll head strapped to his back or the arena announcer.
Agree with the bully theory....also ..there IS a point in the transition that this thing makes into our realm that it IS vulnerable ....and they CAN be hurt....that is as far as shadow entites go, demons are a different ball game....if thats what is happening here.....B



I think Master Blaster would be my only competition in Bartertown .....though Ironbar(doll head guy) was pretty agile hanging off of the train....
Shankpin
Can someone PM justnormal and let her know how to convert her pics, and make them smaller to send/upload. If I knew more about it I would but honestly I doubt myself in that area tongue.gif ....
JustNormal
QUOTE(ND-DAVE @ Apr 22 2007, 12:40 AM) [snapback]1640494[/snapback]
Hey, JustNormal. This is replying to what you posted to Barek above. I had a few questions and then maybe a few solutions.

First. Are religious in anyway? Doesnt matter what belief.

Second. What makes you believe that there are multiple entities in the house?

Third. You stated that at first the encounters were small and unnoticable. When did they actually begin to get extrieme? Also if you can think back to that time, what was going on in you life at the time? Both inner and outter. For example maybe a relationship breakup or perhaps a change in lifestyle or even perhaps a change of inner persona such as depression or excitement.

By the way if you dont feel comfortable answering any questions you can PM me or tell me so. With those questions I may be able to figure out something to help the situation or find a cause to the haunting.

First of all I am a very spiritual person. I have been psychic since I was a child. Once I got older I became more psychic by making predictions, doing psychic readings etc, and never for money or anything, just to help people. I raised my two sons alone on the 2nd floor of this same house (my ex's family owns it) and in 1993 I moved up to 3rd floor of this old Victorian home. After my mother died, in 81 we got alot of poltergeist activity, and remember seeing a cloud of "smoke" over my doorway the night she was buried. So there IS a history to this home. So when I say there have been spirits in this house I MEAN IT, but I would see it in pictures and sense a presence. In 2001 I bought a lovely antique bookcase, and it was around that time, negative things would happen, and some disturbing. I felt if I sold it, I would get rid of whatever it was that was causing such chaos, and grief to me, my son and boyfriend. I sold it and the man who bought it happened to be a medium, and he freaked out and said there is something evil attached to me not the bookcase. I didnt take what he said seriously at all. I never feared seeing orbs with my naked eye, I never feared hearing a voice through my TV, and I never feared strange annomilies seen on photos. There was nothing going on unusual when this started. I told you, I went to my bedroom and my digital clock was blinking or flickering SO fast I thought it was my eyes, and would go to 3:00Am before I could blink. I chaulked it up to being tired. I had my alarm set at times to music, but have been out of work due to a surgical procedure so have not set the clock. But I would wake to hear what sounded like a male talking on the radio so would wake up, go over to it and check it and go back to bed. I thought it was the radio acting up. SO I switched radios with my son still thinking it was that radio. One night my son knocked on my bedroom door telling me he heard a talk show on my clock and to shurt alarm off, but it wasnt on. The next night I made sure the alarm was NOT set and volume off. The voice woke me out of a sound sleep night after night, and my son who was in another room. It was that point I bought a Digital Voice Recorder and would only record for 2 to 3 minutes, only to hear this thing talking to me. Sometimes he made no sense, other times he was vulgar, and other times he continued to say GET OUT..It still did not scare me, till I was pushed over 10 feet and ended up at the ER, and a week later the same thing in the same room. Last Sunday I was pushed so hard I broke my cheek bone. That is when I recorded and talked to it and asked who he was? He said "Im here" thats it. I called the pararnomal investigators daily and let them listen to this man speak so clearly to ME, because somehow once I got a good recording it would delete on its own. So they heard it, my son and b/f heard it and my brother as well. I know what I have seen, I know what I have heard, I know what I heard on that EVP that made me cry and hide. I am waiting for pictures, and as I said there are hundreds they are analyzing. The investigator explained to me on the phone what was on some of the pictures. Even the 16 minutes of the EVP we all listened to that night was extrememly disturbing. I believe there is one nice spirit here and one that wants me out for whatever reason. If anyone else told me this story, I would think they were crazy or lying. Lastly this will NOT let me attach the one picture I want evaluated, which is that of a large long red haze, it states that I havent loaded a file when indeed I have..so you tell me
JustNormal
QUOTE(Sunny98 @ Apr 22 2007, 01:09 AM) [snapback]1640519[/snapback]
Can someone PM justnormal and let her know how to convert her pics, and make them smaller to send/upload. If I knew more about it I would but honestly I doubt myself in that area tongue.gif ....


What does PM mean?
JustNormal
I made it very small..see if this works..As I said, I was a red rod, took a picture and this is what I got. But on the photo itself it goes from ceiling to floor.
ND-DAVE
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 21 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]1640499[/snapback]
Agree with the bully theory....also ..there IS a point in the transition that this thing makes into our realm that it IS vulnerable ....and they CAN be hurt....that is as far as shadow entites , demons are a different ball game....if thats what is happening here.....B
I think Master Blaster would be my only competition in Bartertown .....though Ironbar(doll head guy) was pretty agile hanging off of the train....


Demons can too. They are just better at hiding it. Deception and intimidation are the tools used, the demons are just better at using them. And to where shadow entities are like snot-nosed Billy the Bully sitting in the school yard tuff, Demons look like Mike Tyson sitting in the opposite corner tuff. give Billy a pair of brass knuckles and he'll wup on you. Give Tyson a pair and he'll annihilate you. The BKs being the energy you exume when you fear them and give them the energy to feed with. So you see, same equipment used just a better entity using them. None the less be it Billy or Tyson a good hard right hook will beat them down regardless. Now all the person in the situation needs is the strenght and courage to put their fists up and fight.

By the way, just remember you dog wistle and you be allright.
telirium
what am i supposed to be looking at? i don't see anything in the pic
Shankpin
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 21 2007, 08:19 PM) [snapback]1640533[/snapback]
What does PM mean?


Pm is private message.
ND-DAVE
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 21 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]1640528[/snapback]
First of all I am a very spiritual person. I have been psychic since I was a child. Once I got older I became more psychic by making predictions, doing psychic readings etc, and never for money or anything, just to help people. I raised my two sons alone on the 2nd floor of this same house (my ex's family owns it) and in 1993 I moved up to 3rd floor of this old Victorian home. After my mother died, in 81 we got alot of poltergeist activity, and remember seeing a cloud of "smoke" over my doorway the night she was buried. So there IS a history to this home. So when I say there have been spirits in this house I MEAN IT, but I would see it in pictures and sense a presence. In 2001 I bought a lovely antique bookcase, and it was around that time, negative things would happen, and some disturbing. I felt if I sold it, I would get rid of whatever it was that was causing such chaos, and grief to me, my son and boyfriend. I sold it and the man who bought it happened to be a medium, and he freaked out and said there is something evil attached to me not the bookcase. I didnt take what he said seriously at all. I never feared seeing orbs with my naked eye, I never feared hearing a voice through my TV, and I never feared strange annomilies seen on photos. There was nothing going on unusual when this started. I told you, I went to my bedroom and my digital clock was blinking or flickering SO fast I thought it was my eyes, and would go to 3:00Am before I could blink. I chaulked it up to being tired. I had my alarm set at times to music, but have been out of work due to a surgical procedure so have not set the clock. But I would wake to hear what sounded like a male talking on the radio so would wake up, go over to it and check it and go back to bed. I thought it was the radio acting up. SO I switched radios with my son still thinking it was that radio. One night my son knocked on my bedroom door telling me he heard a talk show on my clock and to shurt alarm off, but it wasnt on. The next night I made sure the alarm was NOT set and volume off. The voice woke me out of a sound sleep night after night, and my son who was in another room. It was that point I bought a Digital Voice Recorder and would only record for 2 to 3 minutes, only to hear this thing talking to me. Sometimes he made no sense, other times he was vulgar, and other times he continued to say GET OUT..It still did not scare me, till I was pushed over 10 feet and ended up at the ER, and a week later the same thing in the same room. Last Sunday I was pushed so hard I broke my cheek bone. That is when I recorded and talked to it and asked who he was? He said "Im here" thats it. I called the pararnomal investigators daily and let them listen to this man speak so clearly to ME, because somehow once I got a good recording it would delete on its own. So they heard it, my son and b/f heard it and my brother as well. I know what I have seen, I know what I have heard, I know what I heard on that EVP that made me cry and hide. I am waiting for pictures, and as I said there are hundreds they are analyzing. The investigator explained to me on the phone what was on some of the pictures. Even the 16 minutes of the EVP we all listened to that night was extrememly disturbing. I believe there is one nice spirit here and one that wants me out for whatever reason. If anyone else told me this story, I would think they were crazy or lying. Lastly this will NOT let me attach the one picture I want evaluated, which is that of a large long red haze, it states that I havent loaded a file when indeed I have..so you tell me


Very interesting. One thing I noticed in the post was when you said the man who you sold the bookcase said. This would make me believe that maybe something is attatched to you and not the house. Also your explanation of phychic abilities would lead me to this too. Now if it is demonic or not is up for speculation still. Also if this is not the case then perhaps you psychic abilities attracted this entitiy to you when you moved up into the third floor of the house and without your knowlege and before you caught on, it was too late and it had enought power to begin the poltergiest activity and the other activity.

Also you said you moved into the house in 1981 and moved up a floor when your mother died. Now like all of us who lose loved ones we are distraught and heartbroken during the time of passing. This depressive state would allow an entity more control of you since you are not in a full state of mind. Which would put me to beleive this is why the attacks turned to the extrieme at this time. What ever was attatched to you and perhaps whatever was in the house originaly entered a new level of activity.

And about the contact with the entity or entities. It would appear due to your highly attuned sense for the spirit world they would issue more contact with you or try to get that edge when communicating. "Get out and I'm here." These are orders not answers. This entity obviously want you to know that it is here and it expects to stay. It wants complete control and will take nothing less, as is seen in the physical attacks that you have described.

Also you described more of the EVPs and their hostility and that you also believe that a good spirit is among the evil ones. One thing to look out for is a common game played by demons and other evil entities which is kind of like a good cop bad cop game. One plays good and one plays bad even though they both have the same goal. Basicly, you might have two evil spirits playing such a game so you get more dependent or lenient on the one playing good. I would be very skeptical on this "good" spirit's intentions before you beging to turn your back on it or gaining a sense of dependence that it is here to protect you or anything similar.

Also you said you were spiritual. What are your beliefs of your spiritual faith?
JustNormal
QUOTE(Sunny98 @ Apr 22 2007, 02:11 AM) [snapback]1640590[/snapback]
Pm is private message.


Ohh thank you lol
JustNormal
QUOTE(ND-DAVE @ Apr 22 2007, 02:21 AM) [snapback]1640613[/snapback]
Very interesting. One thing I noticed in the post was when you said the man who you sold the bookcase said. This would make me believe that maybe something is attatched to you and not the house. Also your explanation of phychic abilities would lead me to this too. Now if it is demonic or not is up for speculation still. Also if this is not the case then perhaps you psychic abilities attracted this entitiy to you when you moved up into the third floor of the house and without your knowlege and before you caught on, it was too late and it had enought power to begin the poltergiest activity and the other activity.

Also you said you moved into the house in 1981 and moved up a floor when your mother died. Now like all of us who lose loved ones we are distraught and heartbroken during the time of passing. This depressive state would allow an entity more control of you since you are not in a full state of mind. Which would put me to beleive this is why the attacks turned to the extrieme at this time. What ever was attatched to you and perhaps whatever was in the house originaly entered a new level of activity.

And about the contact with the entity or entities. It would appear due to your highly attuned sense for the spirit world they would issue more contact with you or try to get that edge when communicating. "Get out and I'm here." These are orders not answers. This entity obviously want you to know that it is here and it expects to stay. It wants complete control and will take nothing less, as is seen in the physical attacks that you have described.

Also you described more of the EVPs and their hostility and that you also believe that a good spirit is among the evil ones. One thing to look out for is a common game played by demons and other evil entities which is kind of like a good cop bad cop game. One plays good and one plays bad even though they both have the same goal. Basicly, you might have two evil spirits playing such a game so you get more dependent or lenient on the one playing good. I would be very skeptical on this "good" spirit's intentions before you beging to turn your back on it or gaining a sense of dependence that it is here to protect you or anything similar.

Also you said you were spiritual. What are your beliefs of your spiritual faith?


Thank you SO much for your understanding and rational words, it does give me some comfort. At least I know I am not totally alone in this world. Actually I bought the bookcase from an Antique store, and after a few nasty encounters and strange imaqes seen every time I took a pic of it, and that incubus episode, I felt I needed to sell it. The man that bought it claimed to be a medium and I just found him in the yellow pages. We talked for hours, but something about him made me uncomfortable. Anyway he said I should MOVE and I said no, this is my home. He ended up selling it a few days later even tho he said he wanted to keep it, after seeing the pics I had taken. I lived on second floor when my mom died in 1981, and had been there for a few years before and bought a home and got out of here. I moved back in 1993. I dont recall any activity up here till the past few years, but they all appeared to be harmless sounds, things being moved and I am used to that and laughed it off. Another thing, is about a year ago I began getting messages from deceased people, and I would in turn share it with the person it was intended for, even strangers online. The accuracy is amazing, and I enjoyed it, till this. I DO believe this has to do with me, and what I somehow attracted, while helping others. I guess we can all be open to good and bad but this is just insane!! I have chosen to STOP listening to messages, and shrug them off even tho they are still there. I never expected to have a demonic or scary situation, after all Ive been like this my entire life. I REALLY liked what you said about commands/demands, that now makes sense, thank you. I never thought of that. He tries to tell me what to do and the team as well. When we performed a seance the other night, he tapped many times when asked if he was here, if it was male, if this was about me etc. Then he just stopped. The camera guy was frustrated because his batteries were dying constantly, during that seance. Also I was the one who got the horrible odor of ammonia, omg it was strong but no one else got it. They said that meant a demonic presence and I had never heard that before. I just feel there has been a good soul here for a long time, but like you said, I could be fooled. How can they be smarter than us? I feel like running away but I wont, but I cannot take another fall, or trip, that is the only part that makes all this dangerous. My Dad was Jewish and Mom was Catholic so I was raised by both faiths. When I became an adult I decided Catholcism was not for me, so I DO believe in God, I pray every day of my life for my children and for strength. This is probably the worst experience of my life, but you have helped and I cannot wait to get the pictures and EVP's but to be honest, I am terrified to even look at them when I do get them..Thanks again
Sadil
Not sure what to say to all this, but I do hope you get everything sorted out!!

I can't even imagine how terrified I would be, but it might be a good idea to try an exorcism anyways. It's clear you're not moving out, but you can't keep living like that either. It's worth a try, at least, no?



Also am looking forward to seeing pics and the EVP, should you decide to post them here. (You may want to try uploading your picture to http://www.photobucket.com if the forum keeps giving you issues)
Lord Storm
In my humble oppinion you are in the middle of a spiritual power struggle. I have seen these a few times even in my younger years. This usualy occurs in times of spiritual change, such as a change of faith. I know a few Satanists who turned Christian, they had a lot of problems with Poltergeist activity etc. This activity will probably stay until you find the right path. No I am not going to start spouting religeous stuff at you as I am not "Religeous", I have my own set of beliefs.

I do have a few questions though. Was your mother a strong psychic or show unusual talents? Are the voices on EVP only? When not doing a sayance do you get tappings etc..? Are you going through a time of spiritual change?

The answers to these questions should help locate the reason for this and also the strength of your adversaries. I am sorry if I sound like someone from the film Ghostbusters grin2.gif

Edit: Typo.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Sadil @ Apr 22 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]1641059[/snapback]
Not sure what to say to all this, but I do hope you get everything sorted out!!

I can't even imagine how terrified I would be, but it might be a good idea to try an exorcism anyways. It's clear you're not moving out, but you can't keep living like that either. It's worth a try, at least, no?
Also am looking forward to seeing pics and the EVP, should you decide to post them here. (You may want to try uploading your picture to http://www.photobucket.com if the forum keeps giving you issues)


NO I cannot go on like this, its pure insanity. I am not excited about getting the photos or the EVPS cause I have to live with this, however I DO have to accept it and get rid of it. My son's important medicine is missing, it was in an end table drawer yesterday and now its GONE. Things are disappearing..OMG>.I uploaded a picture yesterday of but no one has said what they believe it to be..
JustNormal
QUOTE(Lord Storm @ Apr 22 2007, 11:29 AM) [snapback]1641079[/snapback]
In my humble oppinion you are in the middle of a spiritual power struggle. I have seen these a few times even in my younger years. This usualy occurs in times of spiritual change, such as a change of faith. I know a few Satanists who turned Christian, they had a lot of problems with Poltergeist activity etc. This activity will probably stay until you find the right path. No I am not going to start spouting religeous stuff at you as I am not "Religeous", I have my own set of beliefs.

I do have a few questions though. Was your mother a strong psychic or show unusual talents? Are the voices on EVP only? When not doing a sayance do you get tappings etc..? Are you going through a time of spiritual change?

The answers to these questions should help locate the reason for this and also the strength of your adversaries. I am sorry if I sound like someone from the film Ghostbusters grin2.gif

Edit: Typo.


I have never questioned my faith or had a struggle with my beliefs, I remain steeadfast on my beliefs. I dont remember my Mom having any talents what so ever, she was a kind passive woman but not psychic. The voice I recorded deleted themselves, and the team has the rest of whatever is on there. NO we can hear this voice out of different rooms, but orginating from my bedroom. We can hear heavy breathing, and "that" voice which sounds like a radio talk show from another room, but when we get closer its gone. It also "coughs" so not sure, but so far I DO know he was a heavy smoker,. but that doesnt narrow it down LOL
Kroll1
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 11:46 AM) [snapback]1641083[/snapback]
I uploaded a picture yesterday of but no one has said what they believe it to be..


That picture is werry grainy, out of focus and dark, so it is hard to say annything about it.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 11:55 AM) [snapback]1641090[/snapback]
That picture is werry grainy, out of focus and dark, so it is hard to say annything about it.


Well as I said, it was pitch black in my room when I noticed a red worm type thing, and it was around for awhile but moved. I grabbed my disposable cam and took a picture. On the original print it is al full size, and goes up to down to floor and the only thing that is grainy is the reddish image. Thanks
Kroll1
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 11:59 AM) [snapback]1641092[/snapback]
Well as I said, it was pitch black in my room when I noticed a red worm type thing, and it was around for awhile but moved. I grabbed my disposable cam and took a picture. On the original print it is al full size, and goes up to down to floor and the only thing that is grainy is the reddish image. Thanks


I would like to give you my oppenion on your photos, i just dont think it would be fair to you ore to me, to analyse a picture i cannot see.
Your discription of the string, makes me think of descriptions i heard, of entrance/doorways/gaps, between our world, and the spiritual realm, but i cant say, since i dont know much about how such things looks like - it is just what pops into my mind.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 21 2007, 08:18 PM) [snapback]1640528[/snapback]
.......I bought a Digital Voice Recorder and would only record for 2 to 3 minutes, only to hear this thing talking to me. Sometimes he made no sense, other times he was vulgar, and other times he continued to say GET OUT..It still did not scare me, till I was pushed over 10 feet and ended up at the ER, and a week later the same thing in the same room. Last Sunday I was pushed so hard I broke my cheek bone. That is when I recorded and talked to it and asked who he was? He said "Im here" thats it.....
As I suspected this is a preditor, and it likes to abuse women as it did in life, it is a coward this entity........ if it is a demon it is a low ranking one that gets off on being the "bully".... today is a bad day to be a bully! angry.gif ...........B









examining photo....
Eladah
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 21 2007, 04:57 PM) [snapback]1640281[/snapback]
Hi All, I am new here. I have had a great deal of paranormal activity in the old house I live in. There is a voice that speaks through my alarm clock, and fan. I have been physically pushed so hard and fast, have been to ER 3 times. I had a team of Paranormal Investigators come in Thursday night into Friday morning. Some of it was fun, but for the most part it was frightening. The first 16 minutes of the EVP is a voice, with a foul mouth telling them to GET THE F OUT, and OH CRAP he says 3 times, very clearly. I heard stuff like that before I even called them. This monster knows my name and my brother's. In any case, I just got a call from the head of the organization. He said in one room (where I was pushed) there is a HUGE black shrouded figure that takes up a good portion of the picture, and is over one of the members of the team, and another he is over me. They have other pictures of orbs, but very disturbing ones in the bedroom for fire, flames and bright red objects all over the place. They are sending me files by tomorrow once they are all reviewed. What does a black shrouded figure mean? What does fire mean? A few nights ago I saw a red wormy kinda thing in my ceiling, but that it was a reflection. I followed it with the naked eye and realized it continued to move, so took a picture of it. For some reason when I downloaded the CD the picture is cropped but on the real print, the image goes from ceiling to floor? Any ideas till they visit again? HELP..PS it wont even let me upload this picture..


Easy solution, find a good Pentacostal or Non-Denominational church. It's not a ghost it IS a demon. It's an "angry spirit" Ask a pastor not a priest to come to your home. Usually it's a group of members that come and read the from the word and anoint you and your home. they cast out any evil spirit that is in your home. Or that is attached to you. I guarantee you will never have a problem like that again. ( I speak from experience, I know where you're coming from)
JustNormal
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 22 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]1641120[/snapback]
As I suspected this is a preditor, and it likes to abuse women as it did in life, it is a coward this entity........ if it is a demon it is a low ranking one that gets off on being the "bully".... today is a bad day to be a bully! angry.gif ...........B
examining photo....



Thanks, yes he is a bully. He seems to be alot of talk. But since I unplugged my alarm clock and fan, he has moved and taken things. My son leaves his medicine here, in a drawer beside the sofa. He got up this morning and the entire bottle is gone. NO ONE has been in here since the investators and my son took his medicine yesterday morning and put it back where it belongs. So I plugged alarm clock back in and spoke to him, told him I would do something for him if he did something for me, so plugged it back in and went to get a coffee. When I came back home, the only thing that changed was, I had a wooden bead necklace my brother gave me months before he was killed. I placed it in a perfect circle and for 2 days, it has not moved. When I came home, went in my room to change and the necklace has shifted into an entirely new position, but still cant find my son's medicine. I agree, he IS a coward nd bully, but in real life the only person I knew like that was my sister. She died in 1998, and we had been estranged for years. My ex used to call her Satan, but she was a raging alcoholic and I hated her. While my Mom was on her death bed, my so called sister slept with my step father, CHARLES and I never spoke to either again, and he is also deceased and bullied my mother, but not me, he knew better. During the seance we all got the name "Charles." Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
JustNormal
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]1641128[/snapback]
Easy solution, find a good Pentacostal or Non-Denominational church. It's not a ghost it IS a demon. It's an "angry spirit" Ask a pastor not a priest to come to your home. Usually it's a group of members that come and read the from the word and anoint you and your home. they cast out any evil spirit that is in your home. Or that is attached to you. I guarantee you will never have a problem like that again. ( I speak from experience, I know where you're coming from)


WOW Thanks, so there is a resolution to this nightmare? All of you have been GREAT with your answers, glad I found you all. So you had a similar experience too? IT just seems so surreal doesn't it?
Kroll1
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]1641128[/snapback]
Easy solution, find a good Pentacostal or Non-Denominational church. It's not a ghost it IS a demon. It's an "angry spirit" Ask a pastor not a priest to come to your home. Usually it's a group of members that come and read the from the word and anoint you and your home. they cast out any evil spirit that is in your home. Or that is attached to you. I guarantee you will never have a problem like that again. ( I speak from experience, I know where you're coming from)


Basicly whe agree, and hopefully, it will be that easy to get rid of this entity, but it is not always that easy, sometimes they put up a fight, and wont just let go, espesially if it is a demon.
I wouldn conclude that easyli, wheter its a demon ore a ghost, demons can disguise them selfs as ghosts, and ghost might seem as mean as demons.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 08:08 AM) [snapback]1641130[/snapback]
So I plugged alarm clock back in and spoke to him, told him I would do something for him if he did something for me
thats how you get an attachment I'm afraid, any Ouija boards in your past? ........I PM'd another member to review this, hopefully she will recieve the message soon....B
Eladah
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]1641138[/snapback]
Basicly whe agree, and hopefully, it will be that easy to get rid of this entity, but it is not always that easy, sometimes they put up a fight, and wont just let go, espesially if it is a demon.
I wouldn conclude that easyli, wheter its a demon ore a ghost, demons can disguise them selfs as ghosts, and ghost might seem as mean as demons.



Well ghost is an alt. word for spirit. There's no difference. Demons appear as anyone or anything they choose. Demons aren't always "angry spirits" though. They have different reasons and motives for appearing to people in different ways. A demon can appear as an Angel of Light or it can appear ghastly looking.
And cleansing a home of demons is a draining process. It can go on for hrs. Depending on what type of demon it is.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 12:08 PM) [snapback]1641096[/snapback]
I would like to give you my oppenion on your photos, i just dont think it would be fair to you ore to me, to analyse a picture i cannot see.
Your discription of the string, makes me think of descriptions i heard, of entrance/doorways/gaps, between our world, and the spiritual realm, but i cant say, since i dont know much about how such things looks like - it is just what pops into my mind.


I was told it's called a "rod?" As I said the room was all dark as always, I laid on my back to pray and stay comfy in that position due to the physical pain I am in. I noticed what appeared to be a "worm" type of thing, that was reddish orange. I thought it was a reflection to my electric blanket dial, so shut it off. It was in the corner of the bedroom, close to ceiling. I actually stood up and looked right at it, then it moved more to right. My camera was on my nightstand, so grabbed it, flashed and shot it. I could not see well and didnt think turning the light on was a good idea. When I got it developed it was this large, wide red grainy thing that went all the way to the floor. I did not feel threatened or afraid by it. I learned the next morning one of my son's best friends had died suddenly at home from an overdose, so now I "think" it might have been him, we loved him alot. My son who is 30 drove me to doctors on Friday and left me there, till I called to come and get me. He said as he walked down the stairs, he saw what appeared to be the "head of a cigarette" but he was not smoking. He said it was bright red, small and "danced all around him, but he tried to touch it and couldnt." He said he wasnt fearful of it either but he said it "weirded him out." UGH Who knows, this place might be loaded with spirits, good and bad.
Kroll1
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]1641146[/snapback]
Well ghost is an alt. word for spirit.


A "ghost" is the commen phrase for a dead persons spirit, and "spirit" has a wider meaning, also including demons. "Ghost" can never refer to a demon.

QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]1641146[/snapback]
It can go on for hrs. Depending on what type of demon it is.


Sometimes for much longer - not to discouage you JustNormal - but you have to be ready, if it takes longer than Eladah thinks.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]1641146[/snapback]
Well ghost is an alt. word for spirit. There's no difference. Demons appear as anyone or anything they choose. Demons aren't always "angry spirits" though. They have different reasons and motives for appearing to people in different ways. A demon can appear as an Angel of Light or it can appear ghastly looking.
And cleansing a home of demons is a draining process. It can go on for hrs. Depending on what type of demon it is.



It makes me truly wonder what it is he wants exactly. I find it totally amazing that I can actually ask him questions and he answers, just not truthfully but answers anyway. I asked last week what he wanted, and was using my digital voice recorder and he clearly said "I want IT." That was no help tongue.gif
Eladah
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]1641134[/snapback]
WOW Thanks, so there is a resolution to this nightmare? All of you have been GREAT with your answers, glad I found you all. So you had a similar experience too? IT just seems so surreal doesn't it?


At first it is a nightmare, but it gets so much better when it's gone. Unfortunately depending on how you live your life and WHO you let into your home. They can come back at any time. I find keeping yourself in check and being very positive, depletes your chances of it accuring again. Be careful of who you let into your home. People attract the worst of them. My aunt used to have times in her home when she would get some unwanted guests. It would get her so mad lol. So we would all get into a circle and we would start praying. Then you can feel the energy in the room get stronger and sometimes the air would get really thick. You just feel a presence or more than one. It's the most trippiest thing you would ever feel. As we start to pray a lil louder you can hear them manifest verbally. You'd hear things that would make you want to run out of the front door. Horrible things. Worse than what they show in movies. The voices, the sound of running. I remember one of my experiences where I actually heard running and the door slam shut really loud. But the door was shut with lock and chain. Anys that's a good sign...a sign that they were scared and couldn't stay any longer. I've seen actual demons, not everyone is ready for that. I've seen them awake and asleep. I'm a healthy person I have no mental illness. lol. I don't take any perscription drugs. I know what's out there what's unseen to most. & I know what works to get them packing. Please look for a good Church in your area. I promise if you find the right people it will relieve you of this matter. God Bless.
Eladah
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]1641157[/snapback]
A "ghost" is the commen phrase for a dead persons spirit, and "spirit" has a wider meaning, also including demons. "Ghost" can never refer to a demon.
Sometimes for much longer - not to discouage you JustNormal - but you have to be ready, if it takes longer than Eladah thinks.


I never said it would be quick. I stated a solution. Who are you telling? I spent 24hrs. with friends and family getting rid of them.

Spirit, has a much wider meaning. But when speaking about Demons......what are they? lol. Sorry but I know what I'm talking about. You're just not underlining what we are focusing on. Example, Holy Ghost is also Holy Spirit. A demon is an evil spirit. I'm not here to debate with you. I'm here to offer a troubled person a solution. Which is a successful one.
Eladah
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 09:30 AM) [snapback]1641157[/snapback]
A "ghost" is the commen phrase for a dead persons spirit, and "spirit" has a wider meaning, also including demons. "Ghost" can never refer to a demon.
Sometimes for much longer - not to discouage you JustNormal - but you have to be ready, if it takes longer than Eladah thinks.


Also, with the right people it can and will be gone within hours. Demons have no power there's one that is powerful. He's mighty. With faith and strength. They'll be gone. It's not going to take weeks. Maybe with someone with your amount of faith.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 01:35 PM) [snapback]1641165[/snapback]
At first it is a nightmare, but it gets so much better when it's gone. Unfortunately depending on how you live your life and WHO you let into your home. They can come back at any time. I find keeping yourself in check and being very positive, depletes your chances of it accuring again. Be careful of who you let into your home. People attract the worst of them. My aunt used to have times in her home when she would get some unwanted guests. It would get her so mad lol. So we would all get into a circle and we would start praying. Then you can feel the energy in the room get stronger and sometimes the air would get really thick. You just feel a presence or more than one. It's the most trippiest thing you would ever feel. As we start to pray a lil louder you can hear them manifest verbally. You'd hear things that would make you want to run out of the front door. Horrible things. Worse than what they show in movies. The voices, the sound of running. I remember one of my experiences where I actually heard running and the door slam shut really loud. But the door was shut with lock and chain. Anys that's a good sign...a sign that they were scared and couldn't stay any longer. I've seen actual demons, not everyone is ready for that. I've seen them awake and asleep. I'm a healthy person I have no mental illness. lol. I don't take any perscription drugs. I know what's out there what's unseen to most. & I know what works to get them packing. Please look for a good Church in your area. I promise if you find the right people it will relieve you of this matter. God Bless.

WOW I have a whole new respect for the paranormal. I know what you mean about noises. Six minutes into the ECP I heard before the team left, made me scream, cry and hide behind 2 guys. Like that's going to help lol. Sounded like something from the Exorcist, I swear. I am a healthy person and dont have any mental illnesses, but I will if this keeps up LOL..Thank you for sharing..
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 08:42 AM) [snapback]1641172[/snapback]
I never said it would be quick. I stated a solution. Who are you telling? I spent 24hrs. with friends and family getting rid of them.

Spirit, has a much wider meaning. But when speaking about Demons......what are they? lol. Sorry but I know what I'm talking about. You're just not underlining what we are focusing on. Example, Holy Ghost is also Holy Spirit. A demon is an evil spirit. I'm not here to debate with you. I'm here to offer a troubled person a solution. Which is a successful one.
Perhaps we know what we are talking about as well.......AND a Pastor OR Priest will work btw.....also do yourself a favor......don't debate ME....

(I never said you were wrong though)



Mr Halfhand
JustNormal
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Apr 22 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]1641138[/snapback]
Basicly whe agree, and hopefully, it will be that easy to get rid of this entity, but it is not always that easy, sometimes they put up a fight, and wont just let go, espesially if it is a demon.
I wouldn conclude that easyli, wheter its a demon ore a ghost, demons can disguise them selfs as ghosts, and ghost might seem as mean as demons.



What I dont understand is why they are so smart?
Eladah
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Apr 22 2007, 09:48 AM) [snapback]1641182[/snapback]
WOW I have a whole new respect for the paranormal. I know what you mean about noises. Six minutes into the ECP I heard before the team left, made me scream, cry and hide behind 2 guys. Like that's going to help lol. Sounded like something from the Exorcist, I swear. I am a healthy person and dont have any mental illnesses, but I will if this keeps up LOL..Thank you for sharing..


Btw those recorders actually attract them more. Try not to use them. You're encouraging the spirit to manifest.
& your welcome. Get those nasties gone!
Msg me if you have any questions, keep me posted on your progress, or heck if you would like me to pray for you I don't mind! There's power in prayer!
Take care hun.
Kroll1
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 01:42 PM) [snapback]1641172[/snapback]
I never said it would be quick. I stated a solution. Who are you telling? I spent 24hrs. with friends and family getting rid of them.

Spirit, has a much wider meaning. But when speaking about Demons......what are they? lol. Sorry but I know what I'm talking about. You're just not underlining what we are focusing on. Example, Holy Ghost is also Holy Spirit. A demon is an evil spirit. I'm not here to debate with you. I'm here to offer a troubled person a solution. Which is a successful one.


And you supose you know everything???
I have years of experience with demons, not just 24 hours! I see them and i fight them, on a regular basis, are you?
If you had read my posts, instead of atacking me, for something about me, that you now nothing about, you would realise, that i also am trying to help, and that i do have experiense, also with ghosts!
If you had borthered to read my first post, you would know, that i surgestet the same solution as you are!!!!

QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 01:45 PM) [snapback]1641179[/snapback]
Also, with the right people it can and will be gone within hours. Demons have no power there's one that is powerful. He's mighty. With faith and strength. They'll be gone. It's not going to take weeks. Maybe with someone with your amount of faith.


I can tell you that i am a christian to, from a catholic bagground, and i am a member of a pentacostal minestrie, so i do know, the Lord, The Spirit, and the demons, and what there powers and strenghs are, and i do know, that it is not always just to "snap your fingers" and then they are gone. Read your Bible, and the history of exorcism, and you will know, that it is not always that easy, but of course it can be.

When you are portraing yourself as a christian, i think you should be werry carefull attacking people, and be so full of your self, it is not werry christian.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Eladah @ Apr 22 2007, 01:56 PM) [snapback]1641194[/snapback]
Btw those recorders actually attract them more. Try not to use them. You're encouraging the spirit to manifest.
& your welcome. Get those nasties gone!
Msg me if you have any questions, keep me posted on your progress, or heck if you would like me to pray for you I don't mind! There's power in prayer!
Take care hun.


AWWWWWWWWWWW Thank you so much, prayers would be great. I had no idea about recordings at the time, I was just trying to hear what was on the radio, then when I heard my name, I got more curious. I didnt want to bargain with him, then again I never found the medicine. There is safety in numbers, and safety in prayer..THANK YOU!! This was taken in the living room, with TV off. The blue haze on TV has not been determined yet, and either has that circle thing. On the top of the TV on the left, there is an image of a woman. It actually extends above the wooden part of the wood. Obviously we do see the flash on tv screen. Any thoughts?
Kroll1
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 22 2007, 01:55 PM) [snapback]1641190[/snapback]
Perhaps we know what we are talking about as well.......AND a Pastor OR Priest will work btw.....also do yourself a favor......don't debate ME....

(I never said you were wrong though)
Mr Halfhand


He is right - dont ever laugh.gif do that
Eladah
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Apr 22 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]1641190[/snapback]
Perhaps we know what we are talking about as well.......AND a Pastor OR Priest will work btw.....also do yourself a favor......don't debate ME....
Mr Halfhand


Oh wow this is getting high school. You must feel all proud you ended with that remark. What's that all about? Like I was trying to defeat you or something.
I'm not trying to start a fight. It seems people refuse to have friendly debates. That's not my problem.
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