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rhyknow
D:20th Century
L:Silverstone, Northhampshire
S:Joan Forman

In her book, The Mask of Time, Joan Forman relates the story of an electrician who worked during the day in a Nissan hut on an old RAF airfield near Silverstone motor racing circuit. He recieved complaints from a couple living nearby that they could not sleep because of the noise of his working during the night. The electrician did not work at night and he knew that he was not responsible, but he assumed, reasonably, that someone was using his work place and tools for unauthorised purposes when he was not there.

To catch them out, he left a tape recorder recording overnight in the building but when he played it back he found that it was still blank. On an impulse he sent the tape to a specialist and it was found that if the tape was played back at a different frequency all the sounds of a workshop-exactly those complained by the couple near by-could be heard
Lady_Anvilabeel
That's really interesting, I wonder what the frequency was and whether it changed frequency at times allowing the couple to hear it.
Thozzman
Extremely interesting and definitely worth further investigation.
Do you have a source for this story? thumbsup.gif
rhyknow
from the book "The Mask of Time" by Joan Forman. Unfortunately I don't have a net source
Thozzman
QUOTE(rhyknow @ May 7 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]1663727[/snapback]
from the book "The Mask of Time" by Joan Forman. Unfortunately I don't have a net source


Ahh yes, I've only awoke within the last hour and didn't notice the name of the source at the beginning of your post.
Sorry about that. thumbsup.gif
Opus Magnus
When I record for EVP in my home I set the tape recorder to turn on only when it senses sound. Most of the time when it gets turned on there is no sound at all I can hear. I'll have to hook it up to my computer and mess around with it so maybe I can hear more.
Thozzman
Where can one find software to download that will allow me to play back recordings at different frequencies?
I'd like to try this. original.gif
Opus Magnus
Audacity is free and can do quite a bit of stuff for being free.
Affliction
Any proof of this story?
Thozzman
QUOTE(Affliction @ May 8 2007, 05:50 AM) [snapback]1664945[/snapback]
Any proof of this story?


Proof?
There's never been any acceptable proof for any paranormal phenomena.
That's why most choose to be debunkers, it's much easier and takes almost no effort.
rhyknow
QUOTE(Thozzman @ May 8 2007, 09:07 PM) [snapback]1665569[/snapback]
Proof?
There's never been any acceptable proof for any paranormal phenomena.
That's why most choose to be debunkers, it's much easier and takes almost no effort.


Exactly yes.gif . There is no proof for paranormal existance, but instead of sitting there saying "it's not true because i haven't seen any proof", it's better to actually LOOK for proof.
bee
QUOTE(Opus Magnus @ May 7 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]1663775[/snapback]
When I record for EVP in my home I set the tape recorder to turn on only when it senses sound. Most of the time when it gets turned on there is no sound at all I can hear. I'll have to hook it up to my computer and mess around with it so maybe I can hear more.


How facinating!

I've got this 'bee in my bonnet' (!) that relative to us, the departed or the dimension that they may go to is, slower than ours. For example an hour for us could be about a minute for them. 60 days for us, could be around a day for them.

I don't know if this makes technical sense regarding this theory...but perhaps longer, lower frequencies might pick up stuff that we can't hear.

A few years ago...I had a friend who was in her eighties. We had conversations about death. She always said that if she survived death she would come back and let me know.

Sadly she died when her heart gave up.

I wasn't thinking about what she said she'd do. As day to day life went on...I'd almost forgotten about what she said she'd do.

Then about 2 weeks after she'd died I was awoken in the night by this energy, electrical sensation....I felt her presence and I was smiling into the darkness saying her name and asking "Is that you?"

I did feel that it was her. She was a great lady and would have remembered her 'promise'.

What I'm getting round to saying is that although I had experienced 14 days...from her side of things it might have been about 5 ish hours....almost straight away to her.

I'm rambling now...but I wanted to say about longer frequencies possibly yielding results....but I could be getting all this frequency thing wrong...don't know.
rhyknow
It's a good theory, bee. If indeed the "other side" is on a different plane to ours, they may have a lower resonance than we do, hence the reason only a different frequency works.
Opus Magnus
QUOTE(bee @ May 8 2007, 04:11 PM) [snapback]1665664[/snapback]
How facinating!

I've got this 'bee in my bonnet' (!) that relative to us, the departed or the dimension that they may go to is, slower than ours. For example an hour for us could be about a minute for them. 60 days for us, could be around a day for them.

I don't know if this makes technical sense regarding this theory...but perhaps longer, lower frequencies might pick up stuff that we can't hear.

A few years ago...I had a friend who was in her eighties. We had conversations about death. She always said that if she survived death she would come back and let me know.

Sadly she died when her heart gave up.

I wasn't thinking about what she said she'd do. As day to day life went on...I'd almost forgotten about what she said she'd do.

Then about 2 weeks after she'd died I was awoken in the night by this energy, electrical sensation....I felt her presence and I was smiling into the darkness saying her name and asking "Is that you?"

I did feel that it was her. She was a great lady and would have remembered her 'promise'.

What I'm getting round to saying is that although I had experienced 14 days...from her side of things it might have been about 5 ish hours....almost straight away to her.

I'm rambling now...but I wanted to say about longer frequencies possibly yielding results....but I could be getting all this frequency thing wrong...don't know.


Things moving at different speeds would be in a different space-time. The boundaries of time makes it possible for all the infinite space-times to exist as close to us as our flesh is to the bone, but eons away.
Loonboy


Mediums tend to explain it that spirits are moving at a much faster vibration to that of ours. They say that the physical is a much lower vibration and they have to bring themselves down a bit in order to be seen/heard, and that this process has to be learned.

That would explain the tape story above, I guess?

However, how would the couple hear a noise that was on a different frequency? For them to hear it, would mean it would have to be an audible phenomenon on the physical level - so the tape should have picked it up directly, not on a different frequency... hmm...

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Shankpin
RYknow, that avatar of your is EXTREMELY DISTURBING!!!! w00t.gif
Affliction
QUOTE(rhyknow @ May 9 2007, 05:17 AM) [snapback]1665587[/snapback]
Exactly yes.gif . There is no proof for paranormal existance, but instead of sitting there saying "it's not true because i haven't seen any proof", it's better to actually LOOK for proof.

I meant proof very loosely, by proof I meant maybe a link to the accompanying video.

You know with a name like 'tape recorded ghost'.
rhyknow
QUOTE(Sunni @ May 9 2007, 06:30 AM) [snapback]1666341[/snapback]
RYknow, that avatar of your is EXTREMELY DISTURBING!!!! w00t.gif


Congrats! You're the six hundredth member to say that! =P laugh.gif

I wouldn't happen to be doing it on purpose just to freak y'all out, you know happy.gif

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I meant proof very loosely, by proof I meant maybe a link to the accompanying video.

You know with a name like 'tape recorded ghost'.


Well, as stated in the OP, the place I got this report from was a book by Joan Forman. She didn't give a precise date as to when the incident took place, she merely said "sometime in the twentieth century". Therefore as far as I know there is no video (as it was an audio recording in the first place), and I seriously doubt that the recording itself would be here on the net.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(bee @ May 8 2007, 03:11 PM) [snapback]1665664[/snapback]
I've got this 'bee in my bonnet' (!) that relative to us, the departed or the dimension that they may go to is, slower than ours. For example an hour for us could be about a minute for them. 60 days for us, could be around a day for them.
very astute .....B thumbsup.gif










halfhandshuffle:godsmack-away
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olmlEaMf2wg


contactismade
It could be that they phase in and out, maybe thats why some would hear a physical sound and some wouldn't. Or maybe some are sesitive to that particular frequency definitelt interesting though.
coldethyl
QUOTE(Loonboy @ May 8 2007, 11:17 PM) [snapback]1666321[/snapback]
Mediums tend to explain it that spirits are moving at a much faster vibration to that of ours. They say that the physical is a much lower vibration and they have to bring themselves down a bit in order to be seen/heard, and that this process has to be learned.


Would infrasound fit into that anywhere?

QUOTE(rhyknow @ May 9 2007, 01:58 AM) [snapback]1666479[/snapback]
Congrats! You're the six hundredth member to say that! =P laugh.gif

I wouldn't happen to be doing it on purpose just to freak y'all out, you know happy.gif


Have you seen the one just like yours but with an eyeball instead of the chomping mouth?
rhyknow
QUOTE(coldethyl @ May 9 2007, 07:22 PM) [snapback]1667129[/snapback]
Have you seen the one just like yours but with an eyeball instead of the chomping mouth?


Can't say I have. Although it would be nice to see it, to freak people out even more happy.gif
coldethyl
QUOTE(rhyknow @ May 9 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]1667138[/snapback]
Can't say I have. Although it would be nice to see it, to freak people out even more happy.gif


I'll see if I can dig it up for you. thumbsup.gif
rhyknow
Merci wink2.gif
Barek Halfhand
You guys mean Rhyknow really doesn't look like that ? huh.gif .......B







ot :who thinks the voice recorder from a cell phone would be a good EVP capturing device?
rhyknow
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ May 9 2007, 07:40 PM) [snapback]1667153[/snapback]
You guys mean Rhyknow really doesn't look like that ? huh.gif .......B
ot :who thinks the voice recorder from a cell phone would be a good EVP capturing device?


w00t.gif oh, if only i was that good looking =P

I suppose the voice recorder from a cellphone could work. Having said that the audio quality isn't always superb
JustNormal
QUOTE(Opus Magnus @ May 7 2007, 04:26 PM) [snapback]1663775[/snapback]
When I record for EVP in my home I set the tape recorder to turn on only when it senses sound. Most of the time when it gets turned on there is no sound at all I can hear. I'll have to hook it up to my computer and mess around with it so maybe I can hear more.



What I did, is hook mine up to my speakers and that way I could hear it loud and clear..Not sure if that helps you but thought I would mention it.. rolleyes.gif
Opus Magnus
QUOTE(Loonboy @ May 9 2007, 12:17 AM) [snapback]1666321[/snapback]


Mediums tend to explain it that spirits are moving at a much faster vibration to that of ours. They say that the physical is a much lower vibration and they have to bring themselves down a bit in order to be seen/heard, and that this process has to be learned.

That would explain the tape story above, I guess?

However, how would the couple hear a noise that was on a different frequency? For them to hear it, would mean it would have to be an audible phenomenon on the physical level - so the tape should have picked it up directly, not on a different frequency... hmm...

ph34r.gif


The trick is slowing or speeding up your perception at the convergence points.
masterm9d
QUOTE(Loonboy @ May 9 2007, 04:17 AM) [snapback]1666321[/snapback]


Mediums tend to explain it that spirits are moving at a much faster vibration to that of ours. They say that the physical is a much lower vibration and they have to bring themselves down a bit in order to be seen/heard, and that this process has to be learned.

That would explain the tape story above, I guess?

However, how would the couple hear a noise that was on a different frequency? For them to hear it, would mean it would have to be an audible phenomenon on the physical level - so the tape should have picked it up directly, not on a different frequency... hmm...

ph34r.gif

Unless the couple were in deep sleep (R.E.M) which could of allowed them to hear the noises being made on that frequency. As many believe your soul to leave the body while in rem. Who is to say we are not in that realm during a deep sleep?
spiridion
This also might explain how apparitions appear in photographs from digital cameras when people say they didn't see anything at the time they took the picture since the cameras are so fast they can catch things that maybe our eyes cannot. (There's another thread about this too.) Interesting!!!
Lady_Anvilabeel
QUOTE(Loonboy @ May 9 2007, 05:17 AM) [snapback]1666321[/snapback]
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Mediums tend to explain it that spirits are moving at a much faster vibration to that of ours. They say that the physical is a much lower vibration and they have to bring themselves down a bit in order to be seen/heard, and that this process has to be learned.



I'd agree with this, mediumistically speaking it's called meeting them half way - developed via meditation, but mediums can learn to snap into this state pretty much instantly while being fully conscious ...
Loonboy
QUOTE(masterm9d @ May 11 2007, 11:01 PM) [snapback]1670734[/snapback]
Unless the couple were in deep sleep (R.E.M) which could of allowed them to hear the noises being made on that frequency. As many believe your soul to leave the body while in rem. Who is to say we are not in that realm during a deep sleep?


QUOTE(rhyknow @ May 7 2007, 01:17 PM) [snapback]1663543[/snapback]
He recieved complaints from a couple living nearby that they could not sleep because of the noise of his working during the night.



So they weren't sleeping...

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