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Reincarnated
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The Great Pacific Garbage Patch
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The centre of the North Pacific Gyre is relatively stationary (the area it occupies is often referred to as the horse latitudes) and the circular rotation around it draws waste material in. This has led to the accumulation of flotsam and other debris in huge floating 'clouds' of waste, leading to the informal name The Great Pacific Garbage Patch or Eastern Garbage Patch. While historically this debris has biodegraded, the gyre is now accumulating vast quantities of plastic. Rather than biodegrading, plastic photodegrades, disintegrating in the ocean into smaller and smaller pieces. These pieces, still polymers, eventually become individual molecules, which are still not easily digested.[1] The photodegraded plastic can attract pollutants such as PCBs. The floating particles also resemble zooplankton, which can lead to them being consumed by jellyfish, thus entering the ocean food chain. In samples taken from the gyre in 2001, the mass of plastic exceeded that of zooplankton (the dominant animalian life in the area) by six times.

Occasionally, shifts in the ocean currents release flotsam lost from cargo ships into the currents around the North Pacific Gyre, leading to predictable patterns of garbage washing up on the shores around the outskirts of the gyre. The most famous was the loss of approximately 80,000 Nike sneakers and boots from the ship Hansa Carrier in 1990: the currents of the gyre distributed the shoes around the shores of British Columbia, Washington, Oregon, and Hawaii over the following three years. Similar cargo spills have involved tens of thousands of bathtub toys in 1992 and hockey equipment in 1994. These events have become a major source of data on global-scale ocean currents. Various institutions have asked the public to report the landfall locations of the objects (trainers, rubber ducks, etc.) that wash up as a method of tracking surface waters' response to the deeper ocean currents.

For several years ocean researcher Charles Moore has been investigating a concentration of floating plastic debris in the North Pacific Gyre. His study indicates that ocean currents have added to the mass until it is now about the size of Texas. Many of these long-lasting pieces wind up in the stomachs of marine birds and animals.

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Bottle caps and other plastic objects are visible inside the decomposed carcass of this Laysan albatoss on Kure Atoll, which lies in a remote and virtually uninhabited region of the North Pacific. The bird probably mistook the plastics for food and ingested them while foraging.

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Ghost Ship
If someone were so inclined this whole mess could be cleaned up.
magnetar
As I recall, there is one full time resident/scientist (lady) on these islands. There are also volunteer college students who periodically help to clean the chronic mess.
Reincarnated
Here is a good video on Google explaining plastic pollution and the The Great Pacific Garbage Patch; http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3892310789953943147
SeaMare
QUOTE(Reincarnated @ May 9 2007, 06:03 AM) [snapback]1666372[/snapback]
Here is a good video on Google explaining plastic pollution and the The Great Pacific Garbage Patch; http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3892310789953943147


Awful! thanks for the post, though.
laveticus666
QUOTE(Reincarnated @ May 9 2007, 05:03 AM) [snapback]1666372[/snapback]
Here is a good video on Google explaining plastic pollution and the The Great Pacific Garbage Patch; http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3892310789953943147

wow some of the life they where showing towards the end was amazing. Awesome to see some of whats down there.
Reincarnated
QUOTE(SeaMare @ May 9 2007, 06:44 AM) [snapback]1666463[/snapback]
Awful! thanks for the post, though.
Yeah, it's disgusting and depressing but we must be reminded of the tremendous impact humans have on our environment. Maybe someone will think twice about littering after reading this thread?
sbradj
thanks for the info.... it is sad to see how inconcederate humans are of the planet..i had no idea this even existed untill now...very dissappointing ..
recon_soldier
There are much worse things that humans are doing to our environment at this very second, some of what makes this look like nothing :/
No im not talking global warming.

Still disturbing and very depressing.
Lt_Ripley
we all agree it's sad. but what are we doing about it other than saying it's sad.?

how many here shop with reusable bags instead of the plastic at the grocery?

http://www.reusablebags.com/

The Silver Thong
This is no laughing matter, but I'm waiting for one of the hard core believers in climate change has nothing to do with humans to pop up and say this is a natural cycle that the earth goes through LOL Lets clean this crap up !!!!
recon_soldier
Well i dont believe large scale climate change is caused by man, But im not saying that we arent screwing our planet up - Thats a fact that nobody can deny. But this topic is hardly about that.

We cause largely irreversible damage to our planet and wilflife on an hourly basis.
truethat
QUOTE(Reincarnated @ May 10 2007, 06:24 AM) [snapback]1668105[/snapback]
Yeah, it's disgusting and depressing but we must be reminded of the tremendous impact humans have on our environment. Maybe someone will think twice about littering after reading this thread?



Not just littering but USING. Think about your Dunkin Donuts cups. How many do you get a week, a month a year?

Thats a lot of garbage in the end and its only one item of garbage.
sbradj
i know this is just one drop in the bucket in comparassion to all the debrie we produce on a daily basis...i visit our local "land-fill" often and it is exactly what it is labeled as land fill...all this trash ppl produce and dispose of on a daily basis is amazing ...where are we gonna put all this garbage at when we run outta filling space...almost everyone on this planet has some sort of trash pick up..yeah its picked up an put in a "proper' faclity but is it really safe for the land and animals that consume this stuff...couldnt imagine all the trash in the waters.. angry.gif its always been talked about since i can remember but nothing has ever been done with it...and now its as if there is no way of controlling it there is more than can be handled...i really had no idea that it was this bad untill i saw that pic...maybe more pics should be produced to the public to bring it to acknowledgement..i dunno justa thought...
SilverCougar
QUOTE(truethat @ May 10 2007, 05:11 PM) [snapback]1668758[/snapback]
Not just littering but USING. Think about your Dunkin Donuts cups. How many do you get a week, a month a year?

Thats a lot of garbage in the end and its only one item of garbage.


None, none, and none. X)

Starbucks? Not many either, I normaly have my own thermos or cup. Days I don't... wash the cups out and use them for seedlings.
Reincarnated
QUOTE(truethat @ May 10 2007, 05:11 PM) [snapback]1668758[/snapback]
Not just littering but USING. Think about your Dunkin Donuts cups. How many do you get a week, a month a year?

Thats a lot of garbage in the end and its only one item of garbage.
True, you really can't blame littering for this. It's a side effect of the human population growth on this planet. I think this goes to show that human influenced climate change isn't such a far-fetched idea.
Jim88
QUOTE(sbradj @ May 10 2007, 09:10 PM) [snapback]1669132[/snapback]
i know this is just one drop in the bucket in comparassion to all the debrie we produce on a daily basis...i visit our local "land-fill" often and it is exactly what it is labeled as land fill...all this trash ppl produce and dispose of on a daily basis is amazing ...where are we gonna put all this garbage at when we run outta filling space...almost everyone on this planet has some sort of trash pick up..yeah its picked up an put in a "proper' faclity but is it really safe for the land and animals that consume this stuff...couldnt imagine all the trash in the waters.. angry.gif its always been talked about since i can remember but nothing has ever been done with it...and now its as if there is no way of controlling it there is more than can be handled...i really had no idea that it was this bad untill i saw that pic...maybe more pics should be produced to the public to bring it to acknowledgement..i dunno justa thought...


What do you do with all the garbage people generate if you don't put it in landfills? Ships at sea can't keep all their garbage on board the ship. It isn't sanitary, so they dump it in the ocean.

If somebody could get people to stop using disposable items and get companies to reduce the amount of packaging on products then they could reduce the amount of garbage. It wouldn't eliminate garbage though. Recycling helps reduce the amount of garbage being put into landfills. Some people are trying to reduce the amount of garbage being generated.
jesspy
wow this is just awful
Mr Slayer
This is just another result of our linear thinking:

Produce --> Use --> Throw --> Forget
jesspy
QUOTE(AshKatNah @ May 12 2007, 06:43 PM) [snapback]1671415[/snapback]
Produce --> Use --> Throw --> Forget


--> Choke on plastic
Reincarnated
QUOTE(The Silver Thong @ May 10 2007, 04:50 PM) [snapback]1668714[/snapback]
I'm waiting for one of the hard core believers in climate change has nothing to do with humans to pop up and say this is a natural cycle that the earth goes through LOL
Lol, I honestly wouldn't be surprised.
Alex01
Anybody thought of recycling?
sirfiroth
It is a shame and a moral outrage this has to happen.

I know from long years of sailing that the providers of this trash are only following the international laws regarding dumping at sea.
So maybe it is time to change the international laws.

We live in a disposable world. The truth is mankind as a group, has never demonstrated the ability to engage in terminal reasoning. That is thinking a problem through from start to finnish.
Thus far mankind has demonstrated only the ability to shift responsibility from one to another.

On the bright side Nature is it's infinite wisdom has gathered all of our debris in a location that would be an excellent location for several Giant Recycling Plants. An endeavor that could prove to be profitable for the right company.

If we truly want to clean up our enviornment it is imperative that we all assume responsibility for doing, not just talking, about it.

Will you remember this in one week? one month? one year?

Ring Tailed Lemur
and people wonder why i hate humans disgust.gif
greggK
QUOTE(Reincarnated @ May 8 2007, 11:03 PM) [snapback]1666372[/snapback]
Here is a good video on Google explaining plastic pollution and the The Great Pacific Garbage Patch; http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3892310789953943147


That is an amazing film!

The one thing that sticks out in my mind is the creatures of the ocean go down to the depths during the day and come to the surface at night to feed on the daily growth of the plankton. In this, there is judgement. We as a collective people have absolutely failed in our care of this planet.
Skim Milky
my god, what are we doing to our world?

i dont think people realize how blessed we are for our world to even exist.
Reincarnated
QUOTE(KingKarma420 @ May 21 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]1685972[/snapback]
my god, what are we doing to our world?

i dont think people realize how blessed we are for our world to even exist.
I know hmm.gif

What is even worse is that our gov't is trying to keep it's citizens ignorant of the tremendous impact we have upon our environment. For the most part it is working well. After all of the papers and projects I have done on pollution, I have only recently heard of this garbage patch. No wonder why action against global warming is taking soo long, look at all of the people on these forums who still think it's a myth! It's sad and pathetic. sad.gif
Isis2200
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The photodegraded plastic can attract pollutants such as PCBs. The floating particles also resemble zooplankton, which can lead to them being consumed by jellyfish, thus entering the ocean food chain. In samples taken from the gyre in 2001, the mass of plastic exceeded that of zooplankton (the dominant animalian life in the area) by six times.


Ever hear that old saying "You are what you eat"? I believe there will come a time when all seafood will be 100% non-consumable by humans. hmm.gif

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chemical-licker
http://www.bestlifeonline.com/cms/publish/...ic_are_we.shtml


A vast swath of the Pacific, twice the size of Texas, is full of a plastic stew that is entering the food chain. Scientists say these toxins are causing obesity, infertility...and worse.

Fate can take strange forms, and so perhaps it does not seem unusual that Captain Charles Moore found his life’s purpose in a nightmare. Unfortunately, he was awake at the time, and 800 miles north of Hawaii in the Pacific Ocean.

It happened on August 3, 1997, a lovely day, at least in the beginning: Sunny. Little wind. Water the color of sapphires. Moore and the crew of Alguita, his 50-foot aluminum-hulled catamaran, sliced through the sea.

Returning to Southern California from Hawaii after a sailing race, Moore had altered Alguita’s course, veering slightly north. He had the time and the curiosity to try a new route, one that would lead the vessel through the eastern corner of a 10-million-square-mile oval known as the North Pacific subtropical gyre. This was an odd stretch of ocean, a place most boats purposely avoided. For one thing, it was becalmed. “The doldrums,” sailors called it, and they steered clear. So did the ocean’s top predators: the tuna, sharks, and other large fish that required livelier waters, flush with prey. The gyre was more like a desert—a slow, deep, clockwise-swirling vortex of air and water caused by a mountain of high-pressure air that lingered above it.



SilverCougar
Orlynow

*chuckles*
Moro
Well that is a bit disgusting! And we wonder why people are sick all the time...
MoonPrincess
That's sick! People shouldn't be "littering" at all. It's against the law. Of course people who do it. Don't care. I don't litter at all. If I have a cup on the ground, it'll bother me. Until I put the cup in the trash can. <.<
Mentalcase
OCD!! I'm the same way. When i smoke a cig, I knock the cherry off and throw the butt away, rather then throw it on the ground. I do that instinctly.

I never imagined the oceans were that bad. I guess i can understand lots of sunken ships/missing cargo, etc. Makes for a mass of this trash. OMG it's so bad. sad.gif
Michelle
In the military it's called 'field scoring' and I do the same thing. When we have guests on our boat they are never invited again if they throw anything over the side after being asked not to.
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