Alright, so this morning I wake up to a text message from one of my good friends saying "Our math teacher, Mr. Burns, just got fired and arrested for having sex with a student." And you know what? I really wasn't that surprised. You know why? YOU KNOW WHY? 'CAUSE IT'S THE THIRD FREAKING ONE WE'VE HAD THIS YEAR!! That's right, not one, but three. I go to Cardinal McCarrick High School (or McCrackhead as everyone calls it), which now, in addition to it being known as a crappy, do-nothing school, is now known as "the sex offender place." Now, let me share with you all, a brief history on the sex offenders of my school. The first one (this doesn't include the afforementioned 3 this year) happened quite a few years before I went to the school, so I don't know too much about the case, all I know is that the crime was sex with a student. The second (or the first one that happened this year) was our music teacher, Mr. Spinnato, for having sex with not one, but two, underage girls. The third was our gym teacher, Coach K, for possesion of child pornography videos on his laptop, one which included a grown man raping a little boy. And, last but not least, Mr. Burns, for having a sexual relationship with an underage girl student for over a year. Here's an article on the three cases that happened this year:

http://www.thnt.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?.../705080398/1001

Seriously though, I'm freaking astonished, 3..IN ONE YEAR! This has to be a record or something. I'm so glad I'm graduating from that craphole 4 days from now. Do you guys believe this?

yupp.. i believe. same case happen last year here, but those teacher are selling their student too..
well... at least they got fired or jailed. some teacher can be so...

And those are the ones that are known. The unknown cases make the numbers of sex abouse on students thrice that amount maybe more.

My boss has me dig through all the computers that come in for kiddie porn. I've been lucky so far, but the shop has reported three cases that have lead to arrests. No teachers, but one Priest. There are some sick people out there.

Teacher are starting to look alot like Priest, people who get into a profession just to be around kids....spooooky

On a side note, when I was in high school I knew of a teacher/student relationship....he never got fired...

I knew one as well.....He didn't get fired, he's actually still a girls basketball coach, and the girl got the scarlet letter.

That's really sad. What the hell is going on? I'm seriously considering pulling my daughter out of school doing home schooling. This is absolutely ridiculous.

Or you could just teach your daughter not to have sex with teachers...

In 8th grade, I had this old P.E Coach (my dad was his student and he's about to turn 50 now). He was 'dismissed' when I was in his class and now that I'm in highschool I found out that he was arrested for possession of child pornography in his laptop. There are some sick people out there -_-.

Indeed.

As an eighteen year old student who was in high school last year, I believe that at a certain age (15 or so), students should have to bear part of the responsibility for the crime.

Most high school students would know perfectly well what they are getting themselves into if they have a relationship with a teacher.

I would have to somewhat agree. They do need to bear SOME responsibility but at the same time they are being influenced by an authority figure. There should be a better way to screen teachers, but I don't know how that would be done.

you know how hard it would be to screen for future tendencies, especially when said tendencies are not present when the individual is hired, this is true of any employment opportunity. Would be nearly impossible to screen for tendencies that may or may not show.

I wasn't to surprised either... I mean it is Mr Burns.

That is true to a point. But think back to when you were a teenage girl, say a sophmore in high school. A senior boy starts paying you attention, you feel flattered and all giddy. Think how that might be multiplied if a good looking older man paid attention to you. These pervs know just what buttons to push on these poor gilrs. No matter how sensible or educated you might think a 15 or 16 year old girl is, she is not above being manipulated by a sex offender.

I have no sympathy for those who's will can be overcome with flattery. The bottom line is, in this position the girl is allowing it to happen, when a simple 'no' would end the proceedings.

Male teacher sex offenders are a sick disgusting lot.
But I noticed nobody has mentioned the new phenomena going on with young blonde female teachers coercing young boys into sex.
Is this a double standard? Yes.

They should all be prosecuted equally under the law.

True. They are just as bad. When I was younger, there was a rumour about a female Gym teacher who was giving her male students REALLY good workouts. Sure they were rumours, but nothing was checked into, why? As one guy told me, what guy is going to tell? Why end a good thing? Totally wrong IMO.

UGH! This is disgusting! It's going to get to the point of where there are cameras in every single foot of our campuses! But if that is what it takes to keep our students safe, so be it! We worry so much about the pedaphile living in our neighborhoods, that we forget the ones that spend 5 days a week with our kids!!! Teachers, coaches & other "leaders" in their lives. SCARY!!!


Looking back on it now, I realize that there was a predator in my high school. He had planned to take a bunch of us kids for an over-night hike. He was unable to get clearance from the school to officially take the trip. In other words, if he took any students hiking (over-night or not) he would be terminated & possibly arrested. I didn't even need my parents to say "no" to prevent me from going. Something just felt really freakin' weird about the whole thing.. The following Monday I heard some really horrifying things. Stories of girls being stripped & left out in the woods. Girls having words like "****", "whore", "*itch" written on them with permanent markers. A nightmare that some of the girls fell into only because they wanted to be "accepted" or "cool". Sure, there was lots of alcohol & drugs, but many found it wasn't worth it in the end.

The teacher was fired. Cops then arrested him at his mom's house. He had a 15-year old girl with him. She was pregnant with his child. Don't know what ever happened. Never heard much, but he was from a wealthy family. Also in the 80's we didn't have many of the laws we do now. Eventhough it's true that only a fraction of these creeps ever spend time in jail, we can't ever stop trying to protect kids.

I would not be a teacher today.
We should all keep in mind that charges are just that = charges. They are accusations and may not be true.
Now, I'm not defending child molesters but it is important to remember that if a student wants to ruin a teacher, for any reason, all he or she has to do is scream, "Sex abuse!"
Immediately, the entire community gives him a label he or she can never erase.
It's worse than the charge of raping an adult, I believe, because there will always be some doubt as to whether the woman (or man, we live in crazy times) fabricated the rape or made the claim after consensual sex.
But when the charges involve a child, everyone thinks the child is beyond reproach. The fact is, some children as young as 11 are smart and manipulative. Not all, mind you, but children are far more knowledgeable today than they were even 20 years ago, let alone in the 50s through early 70s when I grew up.
In the past few years, there have been a number of cases in the U.S. when the child, now an adult, later admitted the accusations were false. Too late to save the man from prison and the ruination of his life.
I was a reporter for 12 years, and I always tried to be objective about whatever I covered. That included sexual abuse cases. I covered one rape case that later turned out to be totally false. The man spent months in jail, lost his job, girlfriend and house before the truth came out.
And what did his accuser get? Less than 90 days of jail time, for perjury and filing a false statement.
It's not fair, but that's the way it is.
From what you say, there is little doubt that these teachers are guilty. However, try to stay objective as you follow the case --- and observe how objectivity among the media --- especially TV --- goes right out the door on these cases.
It's why I left journalism --- it changed dramatically for the worse.
Follow the case and try to be objective. It's what the media and the court system are supposed to do, but often fail miserably.

And what happens when the teacher keeps persuing the student after a very stern 'no'? That happened to a friend of mine. She is a very sweet girl, but very buxom. A particular male teacher kept harassing her to the piont where we would come into the bathroom and find her in tears because of this man. And what was worse, he was holding a grade over her head. And the grade would make the difference in whether she graduated or not (it was a required class for graduation). Well to make things worse, we went on an overnight school trip and the particular male teacher was a chaparone. All throughout the night he would make advances on her and she would try to get away from him without leaving her friends (some of which thought this male teacher was a cool hard-ass because he was missing a hand). I saw it. The other teacher chaparone had gone to bed and the only ones she could rely on was us. When we got back from the trip, we only saw this male teacher once more on school grounds. Legal action is being taken against him.

Oh and at the school there was also and older female teacher who creeps out the guys by making advances and wearing revealing clothes. She's wrinkly and scary.

Rosenrot your friend should have reported it and been pro-active rather than playing the victim, which someone else seems to have done if legal action is being taken against him.

There was a problem with that. At the time, we were in Germany where she was of legal age. Right after it happened, my friend went to the teacher in charge of the trip (a female forgein language teacher). But it was a week-long trip. Everyone on the trip did as much as they could to keep him away from her. (the male teacher got the hint after a guy friend of hers was very vulgar toward him). She stayed by the side of another very close friend. When we got back, she told the right authorities.

You see, the problem was not with her. The poor girl did everything she could to keep him away. Including telling him no, talking to other teachers about her problem, and asking that the male teacher in question not be allowed to go on the trip. But all the other teachers didn't think it was a big deal until after the Germany trip. (I am almost ashamed to say, but at my previous school there were many attention grabbers who would flirt with male teachers. It was horrible.) The problem wasn't with her, but other people. Because of what had previously been done, people were less inclined to believe her.

And you also have to realize that not all of us have the same level of emotional strength. I, for one, am not as strong as some of my friends. You seem to be a strong person who would quickly stand up for youself. Unfortunatly, she wasn't. It all comes down to personality. She is different from you who are different than I.

However, I do think that some claims of molestation by a teacher are fabricated for attention which makes it harder to sort the true cases from the attention grabbers. What has this world come to I wish there was a fool-proof way to screen out these people (yes there are females who do it too)...

Ahh, that seems understandable, as I'd imagine there is not a great deal you can do in a foreign country and the person you are relying on is the abusive party, that is rather unfortunate.

Apologies if my comments came out as harsh, but I do believe that there are certain situations where one has to make a stand for themselves as no one else can do it for them.

that's a easy answer for a much more tangled problem. you don't know where the mind of this teen is . most who prey on kids find the ones they can easily manipulate. self esteem , emotional problems. there is always more too it.

there is a saying as well that predators can 'sniff' out their prey. that girls or boys who have been abused at home somehow are different and make for easier targets. plenty of interviewed and studied rapists and pedophiles admit this. How is another matter.

and , they may be 15 or 17 -- the point is the adult is the adult. all blame lays there. as an adult you have a responsibility to say no if a underage person is 'coming on ' to you no matter what.

so don't blame the girl. that's like blaming the woman who wore sexy clothing to being raped. it's stupid.

So they wont release the students age only that she is younger than 18...so what! I say barbeque the slimey teacher. These people are no different to priests or clergymen that are placed in important positions of power with complete trust by the public, therefore have a moral responsibility.
They breach that trust in any way whatsoever then i say let them burn especially were there are children concerned.

Whether or not the student was a willing participant the teacher should have known a lot better...no excuses...end story.



edit: DAMM these mistakes!

Affliction, no harm done. You're a good guy, seriously. I'm glad that we can discuss this tender subject civily, unlike OTHER people that I have seen around this forum. I give you a BIG thumbs up . Thanks.