Have any you seen this before?
http://www.crystalinks.com/underciv.html
What you guys think? I know very little about “Hollow Earth” theory.
I have also read this other story, “The Green Children of Woolpit”, who said they from a place called “St. Martins Land."
Anybody else heard this story?
Tell me what you think.
Edit:
Corrected error in title.
Full Version: Hollow Earth
aside from there being no proof that such a thing exists? i still believe its a stupid theory:P
It seemingly makes sense that a race could exist underground ... if you don't believe in aliens .
UFO's are probobly aliens . Just that and nothingmore . Their is no proof whatsoever that we have an advaned race underneath the earth , this is just making something up in place of something we don't know about .
Guess what ? Since supermassive black holes bend time itself , I personally believe they lead to a new dimension made of giant heads and 10 ft monkeys . This explains why alien photos have big heads and it also explains bigfoot ! Bigfoot must come out of a supermassive black hole somehow
UFO's are probobly aliens . Just that and nothingmore . Their is no proof whatsoever that we have an advaned race underneath the earth , this is just making something up in place of something we don't know about .
Guess what ? Since supermassive black holes bend time itself , I personally believe they lead to a new dimension made of giant heads and 10 ft monkeys . This explains why alien photos have big heads and it also explains bigfoot ! Bigfoot must come out of a supermassive black hole somehow
| QUOTE (Xenojjin @ Dec 6 2003, 03:30 PM) |
| Their is no proof whatsoever that we have an advaned race underneath the earth , this is just making something up in place of something we don't know about . |
Proof??
Sorry but if we had this proof,then those 'people' have done a very bad job covering this whole thing up.But I agree that we still do not have that evidence to prove this hollow earth thing,hell we'd never find one in the future;thanks to the committed people behind all the covering.Everyone's against this theory because it's against our beliefs,like the total opposite of what we've studied and known.Try going back to those olden days and suggest that the Earth is spherical and not flat,they'd call you an undergraduate amatuer just trying to earn some fame.Then until scientists at that time came up with the spherical theory with full evidences,everyone accepted that open-handedly.I'm not trying to say that this whole theory's the truth but from that,we can't just say...."nah,this Earth's got no hole inside,it's full of stuff!!!" but instead we should to take this idea up seriously and do tonnes of researching about this like experiments,etc....until we have found the right and final answer out.I mean we humans are always in curiousity,why not implement this in this perspective??I have known and talked to many people who just love rubbishing anything without even giving much of a thought.They just say,"What??!?I think you're watching too much movies.".Actually they are the ones who's watching too much movies!!
I hope you get my meaning in this,and again I do not blame those that are against this,they just don't understand the whole thing.It's all thanks to those dumb covering up and 'cover-uppers' (
) who're doing thier mighty job with full commitment to drive mankind straight down the drain. 
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| Try going back to those olden days and suggest that the Earth is spherical and not flat,they'd call you an undergraduate amatuer just trying to earn some fame. |
yes, but it was possible to measure the curvature of the earth, ie there was evidence that the earth was round, just that people ignored it. Hollow Earth on the other hand has absolutely no evidence going for it
no sorry but you misunderstand the term hollow earth it doesn't mean the earths core is hollow it that the crust well mostv of it is. have you ever seen some of the cavarns in the crust?, also i posted somthing like this on a forum belonging to
phenomenon, any way i've looked into it for several years now and startedto put up alot of stuff on it there
phenomenon, any way i've looked into it for several years now and startedto put up alot of stuff on it there
| QUOTE (bathory @ Dec 7 2003, 09:00 AM) |
| Hollow Earth on the other hand has absolutely no evidence going for it |
For now my friend,for now.....only time will tell,but I'm afraid we're running out of it.
Although this has nothing to do with this hollow earth thing, (which it's not), Loque, you have the best little moving pic I have ever seen. 
what is it anyway?
what is it anyway?
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| no sorry but you misunderstand the term hollow earth it doesn't mean the earths core is hollow it that the crust well mostv of it is. have you ever seen some of the cavarns in the crust?, also i posted somthing like this on a forum belonging to |
actually it means that the crust is an 800 mile layer in which there is also an Inner Earth with an Inner Sun, there are two entrance points, one in the arctic and one in the antractic...thats it
so, what we realise there is nothing factual to this at all:)
Pure speculation by crazy people:P
| QUOTE (bathory @ Dec 8 2003, 02:12 AM) |
| actually it means that the crust is an 800 mile layer in which there is also an Inner Earth with an Inner Sun, there are two entrance points, one in the arctic and one in the antractic...thats it |
So if I'm not mistaken bathory,you're actually saying this whole thing's a crap based by only this??
Sorry but I think you could do with more researching & checking outs. 
There's more to it,much more to it actually.Hello Loque,
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| any way i've looked into it for several years now and startedto put up alot of stuff on it there |
I would love to hear about those stuff.
well i was being somewhat brief. There have been threads on this before, and none have shown anything other than pure speculation.
The various Hollow Earth Theories
my point is that it is just pure speculation with very little factual grounding:)
That said, it would be nice if you could elaborate why Hollow Earth is a possibility to you?
The various Hollow Earth Theories
my point is that it is just pure speculation with very little factual grounding:)
That said, it would be nice if you could elaborate why Hollow Earth is a possibility to you?
there is going to be an expedition. Why dont we just sit back and wait for the results rather than argue about speculations? However , I am willing to take bets. Any takers? $$$$$$
| QUOTE (bathory @ Dec 8 2003, 05:38 AM) |
| my point is that it is just pure speculation with very little factual grounding:) That said, it would be nice if you could elaborate why Hollow Earth is a possibility to you? |
Hello again bathory
,Firstly I'm really mad at my maid as she just turned off the power to my computer after all my efforts the first time around.Just had to get that one off,ignore it.
Maybe I was somewhat harsh in my last post,I apologize
.Okay before anything,just would love to clarify that I'm not a Hollow Earth fanatic,but from all my researching,I think there's a big possibility of this.If this is untrue in the latter,ar darn it then. 
Alright,if you've known about Einstein questioning about Newton's Theory of Gravity,Einstein suggested that gravity isn't a static force,but rather related to the combination of electricity & magnetism.So one way or another,the Inner Earth isn't just layers but rather a force is being done inside.(some suspect this force is the inner sun,which I think it is the force,but not actually a sun.
)I'm not good in elaborating much but I'll quote some good stuff from a site.Hope this helps though. | QUOTE |
| What causes gravity? How does gravity work? We were all taught at school that gravity is caused by an attraction which exists between all objects. But why do these objects attract each other and how do they do it? An examination of the writings of Leonhard Euler shows that he dissented as to the cause of gravity. He showed that if an object moved that it must be because of a force external to the object. Objects can not propel themselves forward - something else outside of them must be doing the pushing. And so Euler defined gravity as a pressure which came from outside objects. In recent years, a famous American astronomer, Dr Tom Van Flandern has revived this line of thinking and has written much about it. He liked my Euler research so much that he asked me to write about it for his own journal. Van Flandern has been able to define some of the properties of gravity. For example, he points out that Newtonian gravity actually violates Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. When scientists do gravity calculations they assume that gravity propagates itself instantaneously across the solar system. This is absolutely necessary because otherwise the gravity calculations don't work. This means that Newtonian gravity can only work if it propagates itself at faster than the speed of light - which is a violation of Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. Van Flandern explained how gravity might be caused by a type of particle which propagates at faster-than-light-speed which then has a mean free path many times greater than the solar system. In other words, the particles which cause gravity actually begin to behave like a gas but only at distances greater than those present inside the Solar System. Another astronomer wrote a paper in the 1960's where he pointed out that gravity might actually not be valid at galactic distances. For example it has been found that the outer sections of the long arms of spiral galaxies actually move faster than the inner sections. This means that spiral galaxies violate Newtonian gravity. In the 1970's one laboratory showed that gravity broke down at distances of less than one foot. It conducted highly sophisticated experiments into the matter and the results were reported in the prestigious journal: Nature. All engineering formulae are only valid for a certain range of values. All formulae break down above and below certain values. So why not gravity? Do we really know enough about gravity to assume that it is valid for all ranges of values? Could it be that it is only valid for distances matching those found in the Solar System? Newtonian gravity is well-tested among the planets, but is it valid for distances and conditions inside planets? Albert Einstein suggested to Dr E. Saxl in the 1950's that perhaps gravity was affected by electricity. Saxl then devised an electric pendulum with which he performed experiments for the next 17 years at Harvard University. Saxl's discoveries were bizarre. He found gravity exhibiting strange patterns. Some scientists have suggested that his experiments may have been flawed, but I'm not sure I agree. Strictly speaking therefore, all gravity experiments have always been conducted in an electrically neutral environment and to the present day no scientists have truly explored the link between gravity and electricity. Ron Kotas is a microwave engineer who has been researching his Nuclear Quantum Theory of Gravity © for the past 30 years. Kotas believes gravity can be explained by radiations' which occur at the atomic level. One of Kotas' revelations is that electricity must affect gravity - just as Einstein thought. Given the conditions inside the Earth where there are electric currents, Kotas shows that electric currents running in parallel would intensify gravity. The implications of this for the Hollow Earth theory is that the Earth's mass might actually be less than we believe it to be because there are electric currents of about 1 billion amps deep inside the Earth. I go on to examine mine, seabed and borehole experiments which show that Newton's universal constant, G, actually varies with depth and actually increases the deeper the experiments are conducted. These experiments were reported by Australian scientists who were investigating the Fifth Force. Again, the implication is that less mass can produce more attractive force - ergo, the Earth may be lighter than we suppose. When all factors are taken into account we begin to see the researches of many showing that gravity is a dynamic force which is poorly understood and which may be very complex. This takes us a far cry from the current view of gravity being a static force. It may be that the Earth is hollow and we do not even know about it because electric currents running inside the Earth might be increasing the attractive force of matter. |
Okay,here's no.2 and I think you've known it too,the Nazi connection and the Admiral byrd case.Bet you're very clear with it then.Now if you've heard that animals in the Arctic would migrate up north to avoid the extreme climate of the Winter season.
Is there a polar paradise beyond the north of the Arctic??I've also heard that orchids do grow in Greenland.Now that's not possible unless we have some warm climate around to influence the growth.Is there somewhere warm enough closeby??The are even Arctic explorers reported that it's not as crazily cold as you traverse more to the north,and some even said that the temperature rises as you progress. Woh,that was long so maybe you could refer to that one first as I'll be back with well...some more I guess.
Okay I'm back,this time the religion-legends connection to this theory.I'll just qoute them:
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| There are many very strange tales, legends and scriptures across the world from ancient times. We have come to believe that our forefathers were, for the most part, liars. But perhaps our judgement on them is too severe for perhaps there were exceptional things which occurred back then which were worth recording. Take for example the legends of Dragons and the D&D games which have been spawned from this folklore. I have always been struck by the conceptual similarity between dragons and dinosaurs. Could it be that certain types of dinosaurs actually retreated into an underground habitat where, under certain exceptional conditions, they could actually feed, breed and live quite safely from predators? Across the world one finds tales and legends of strange animals seen over and over again in the same limited geographical area. These creatures may go unseen for decades and then suddenly someone once again sees them. I have long been fascinated by the young but growing science of Cryptozoology. I have wondered if perhaps some of these creatures actually inhabit an underground habitat? Perhaps these creatures live safely underground and occasionally come out of well-concealed entrances to feed. They may be safe in their underground world and may perhaps even have adapted to it very well. Perhaps some of them can drink or feed from underground rivers? Perhaps we have yet to discover the field of subterranean zoology. Here are a few references from the Bible which hint at something/somebody living underground:- In Philippians (2:10) we find this reference: "That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow of things in heaven, and things in Earth, and things under the Earth". This quote from Philippians mentions that knees of "things" (creatures?) shall bow. These "things" are all alive. Among these are included the "things" which live "under the Earth.' Is this a reference to subterranean life? In the book of Revelations (5:3) we find a similar statement, but this time it specifically mentions subterranean humans: "And no man in heaven, nor in Earth, neither under the Earth, was able to open the book, neither look thereon". The suggestion here is that there are also men "under the Earth." A gentleman by the name of Paul Davault contacted me one day to inform me that he had done a comprehensive study of the Bible to see whether there were any Biblical references to a Hollow Earth. He did this as an exercise for his friends and family. He ended up writing a 170 page book called: On The Face Of The Deep. Davault told me he believes the following reference indicates the existence of a Polar Hole in the Arctic. In Job (26:7) in the Old Testament, one reads: "He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the Earth upon nothing". In the Book of Enoch (76:6-7) we read: "Seven rivers I beheld upon Earth, greater than all rivers, one of which takes its course from the west; into a great sea its water flows. Two come from the north to the sea, their waters flowing into the Erythraean sea, on the east, And with respect to the remaining four, they take their course in the cavity of the North, two to their sea, the Erythraean sea, and two are poured into a great sea, where also it is said there is a desert". In Plato's Republic we find mention of a God who sits at the centre of the Earth who is responsible for our religions. The Tibetan Buddhists also have references to a vast Underground Empire populated by millions of people and ruled by a man called Rigden-jyepo and also referred to as The King of the World. The empire is called Agharta and its capital city is Shamballa. A Hindu gentleman once wrote me an e-mail from India and told me that Hindu scriptures also mention a vast underworld. In the early days of my interest in the Hollow Earth theory I stumbled upon an Eskimo legend of the "hole-in-the-sea." Could this be a reference to a Polar Hole? Some people like Theodore Illion and Nicolas Roerich tried to find this Underground Empire earlier this century. Roerich's discussions with a Tibetan Lama (Priest) in 1928 resulted in him being told that if you go far enough North then you will see a reflection from the Underground Empire (aurora?). He was also told that the entrance to the Underground Empire lay far across a sea. What this Tibetan was saying was indeed very similar to what one would expect from the Hollow Earth theory. In recent years another Tibetan Lama who visited the USA stated that Agharta could be reached by flying directly north from India. Could it be that a Polar Hole somewhere in a northern ocean leads one straight into a vast Underground Empire within the Earth? |
I don't know what you all are going on about, the earth isn't hollow, it's flat. I suppose next you'll be telling me the earth revolves around the Sun.
But Seriously, I'm new to this forum and I'm surprised by some of the comments made to deny the existance or possibility of something. Granted, we may not be able to prove something does exist, but to say that it can't exist because we have no proof seems a little closed minded to me. We continue to find things that change the way we've thought constantly. Gorillas were another "BigFoot" myth until the last century, scientist said that nothing could live in tempertures of 400 degrees until they found those microbes near volcanic vents at the bottom of the ocean, and at one time, they said "nothing" would ever go faster than 35 mph because to go any faster would "suck" the air from your lungs.
I personally believe that we have a world full of undiscovered wonders around us that many of us miss, simply because we've been taught that "That can't be!" Once I climbed "out of the Box," I found that many of my perceptions and beliefs of most of my life were simply not so.
I for one, will give any theory the benefit of a doubt. Having worked for the military, I know for a fact that the public is not told everything. I also believe that everything will make itself known when the time is right. I treat life like an unfinished novel. I know that I'm dead in the end, but I can't wait to see how it finishes.
As for the Hollow Earth theory, I believe it's possible, although I may have trouble with the internal sun, I can see that someone could live underground. Heck if I could, I would. Thanks for hearing me out.
Don
But Seriously, I'm new to this forum and I'm surprised by some of the comments made to deny the existance or possibility of something. Granted, we may not be able to prove something does exist, but to say that it can't exist because we have no proof seems a little closed minded to me. We continue to find things that change the way we've thought constantly. Gorillas were another "BigFoot" myth until the last century, scientist said that nothing could live in tempertures of 400 degrees until they found those microbes near volcanic vents at the bottom of the ocean, and at one time, they said "nothing" would ever go faster than 35 mph because to go any faster would "suck" the air from your lungs.
I personally believe that we have a world full of undiscovered wonders around us that many of us miss, simply because we've been taught that "That can't be!" Once I climbed "out of the Box," I found that many of my perceptions and beliefs of most of my life were simply not so.
I for one, will give any theory the benefit of a doubt. Having worked for the military, I know for a fact that the public is not told everything. I also believe that everything will make itself known when the time is right. I treat life like an unfinished novel. I know that I'm dead in the end, but I can't wait to see how it finishes.
As for the Hollow Earth theory, I believe it's possible, although I may have trouble with the internal sun, I can see that someone could live underground. Heck if I could, I would. Thanks for hearing me out.
Don
Wow... it seems you've read my mind.
I'm serious, you and I paraclete1 have the exact same way of thinking about the paranormal and life in general... wow.
You will go far on this forum buddy (at least in my eyes)
I'm serious, you and I paraclete1 have the exact same way of thinking about the paranormal and life in general... wow.
You will go far on this forum buddy (at least in my eyes
)
the thing is that there is evidence of bigfoot, dozens of eye witness accounts etc
when it comes to hollow earth, there is for all intents and purposes nothing...
just because some religous texts mention stuff under the ground does not suddenly mean that there is an entire world.
With todays satellite imaging, you would think some rather large holes would be fairly easy to spot...
when it comes to hollow earth, there is for all intents and purposes nothing...
just because some religous texts mention stuff under the ground does not suddenly mean that there is an entire world.
With todays satellite imaging, you would think some rather large holes would be fairly easy to spot...
| QUOTE (bathory @ Dec 8 2003, 01:47 PM) |
| With todays satellite imaging, you would think some rather large holes would be fairly easy to spot... |
Alright,I got some pics here.Hope this helps.
Another one:
Close-up:
This are the original pictures before NASA apparently 'refined' the pictures as a coverup.
P.S:For clarity reasons,the 'hole' is up north of Earth.
The above pictures look like breaks in the cloud layer over the pole to me, you can see land underneath. That is a huge area hundreds of miles in diameter, if that was a hole in the earth, there would be a lot more knowledge of it.
Not to say that there isn't some kind of life under the earths crust(mmmmm...crust....), as life on earth has been found in the most difficult places. From boiling steam vents at the crushing depths of the bottom of the ocean, to artic ice we can find different forms of life thriving. There are many forms of bacteria that thrive where there is no oxygen(anaerobic). Why not underground? Why not higher forms of life than bacteria?
Are they little green people like the little children that were found in the 19th centeury? I have no idea and kind of doubt that story a bit as it appears as second and thirdhand knowledge and could have been embellished in so many ways.
I do know that in my one college geology course that there are big holes in the ground that go on for miles and miles. We don't really have the technology to drill very deep into the earths crust, so who knows what we could find.
I know that even when oil drilling is taking place, they often hit very large holes in the crust pretty far down. How do we know that there isn't a bunch of little critters in a cave down there watching the drill pass by saying "what the hell is that thing?" "Is that an alien craft? somebody, quick, get the camera!"
Not to say that there isn't some kind of life under the earths crust(mmmmm...crust....), as life on earth has been found in the most difficult places. From boiling steam vents at the crushing depths of the bottom of the ocean, to artic ice we can find different forms of life thriving. There are many forms of bacteria that thrive where there is no oxygen(anaerobic). Why not underground? Why not higher forms of life than bacteria?
Are they little green people like the little children that were found in the 19th centeury? I have no idea and kind of doubt that story a bit as it appears as second and thirdhand knowledge and could have been embellished in so many ways.
I do know that in my one college geology course that there are big holes in the ground that go on for miles and miles. We don't really have the technology to drill very deep into the earths crust, so who knows what we could find.
I know that even when oil drilling is taking place, they often hit very large holes in the crust pretty far down. How do we know that there isn't a bunch of little critters in a cave down there watching the drill pass by saying "what the hell is that thing?" "Is that an alien craft? somebody, quick, get the camera!"
| QUOTE (fluffybunny @ Dec 8 2003, 03:15 PM) |
| The above pictures look like breaks in the cloud layer over the pole to me, you can see land underneath. That is a huge area hundreds of miles in diameter, if that was a hole in the earth, there would be a lot more knowledge of it. |
Yup,that's one alternative too.
It could be like some storm (big one) travelling there and all the fortunes in the world,those pictures were snapped right at that time.One thing though,I always wondered how come those clouds around the hole never did covered it up?? Is it because like what they've said,that there's apparently some air being blown out of the interior that's causing the visibility of that hole?? 
And like what you've stated fluffybunny,I just don't understand with that kind of size for a hole,explorers still couldn't manage to find them.......coverup??Is there some sort of a hologram thingy going around here??Are there transmitters being placed at 'appropriate' spots to activate this holographic field?? 
| QUOTE (Engulf @ Dec 8 2003, 08:35 AM) |
| And like what you've stated fluffybunny,I just don't understand with that kind of size for a hole,explorers still couldn't manage to find them.......coverup??Is there some sort of a hologram thingy going around here??Are there transmitters being placed at 'appropriate' spots to activate this holographic field?? |
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| One thing though,I always wondered how come those clouds around the hole never did covered it up?? |
Well they do cover up the pole nearly all of the time. I think the picture you are looking at is a pretty rare one...If you look at weather maps, there are patterns to cloud movements in the northern hemisphere. The jet stream that guides weather systems over North America and Canada can vary in latitude quite a bit, and can be following what looks like a fairly straight line from time to time. Given the rotational effects on weather patterns that can occur at the pole, I think that the picture above can be explained pretty easily in meteorlogical terms.
The abundance of weather sattelites in geosynchronos orbits over the nortern hemisphere and the live feeds from said sattelites would make life difficult for anyone trying to hide a big hole in the ground at the pole. A little hole? who knows, but a big honkin hole like what appears in the above picture would not be possible in my opinion.
As for holograms, I would doubt it. We just aren't that technologically advanced, and there have been oodles of people that have traveled to the north pole(and back) in planes and by sled without reporting either a big hole, little green men, or Santa(Sorry...). There was that big candy cane at the very pole, but I am sure that was just a natural formation...kidding.
Of couse I have taken exactly on geology course, and one meteorology course in college so I am no expert, but that is just my opinion.
| QUOTE (fluffybunny @ Dec 8 2003, 05:03 PM) |
| The abundance of weather sattelites in geosynchronos orbits over the nortern hemisphere and the live feeds from said sattelites would make life difficult for anyone trying to hide a big hole in the ground at the pole. A little hole? who knows, but a big honkin hole like what appears in the above picture would not be possible in my opinion. |
Mmm,I see,thank you fluffy.
Did cleared out some mess I have now.| QUOTE |
| As for holograms, I would doubt it. We just aren't that technologically advanced, |
I've heard that those facilities (Area 51,Dulce & many other crap) have apparently discovered this tech already but hiding it away as it's a super-massive find.
So they could probably use this tech to 'blindfold' everyone of us,just one possibility.There's no telling by all those conspiracies.| QUOTE |
| and there have been oodles of people that have traveled to the north pole(and back) in planes and by sled without reporting either a big hole, |
I've some info about this apparent explorer (didn't found the hole) who had discovered a hidden land,known as the Crocker Land.I'll just qoute them from the site.
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| The most famous missing land in Arctic history is Crocker Land. Some geographers were convinced by tidal studies and other evidence that a land existed somewhere to the north of North America. Then, in 1908, Commander Peary was wandering along the northern coast of Canada when his Eskimos spotted some land out to sea. Later he climbed a hill and saw this land through his field glasses. Some days later he had travelled further along the coast when he again spotted this land even more clearly from the top of a large hill. He now named it Crocker Land and it was marked on maps for many years. Peary was one of the greatest explorers of his time and he had a lot to lose by making false claims. He was already acknowledged as the greatest explorer of his time, so why would he resort to silly tricks? Then there was Captain MacMillan who set out in 1914 to reach Crocker Land. MacMillan concluded that it was a mirage. But what a mirage! Most people dismiss Crocker Land because MacMillan never reached its surface. However, that does not mean that MacMillan saw nothing. Indeed, MacMillan's own description of his trip is quite incredible. His experiences have over the years been completely glossed over and forgotten. MacMillan's sightings of Crocker Land are enthralling as he tried to reach this vast and mysterious continent which lay far out across the Arctic Ocean. What sort mirage did they see? Mirages are governed by the Laws of Optics. So I contacted a Professor in Canada who is an expert in mirage simulation and who developed sophisticated computer programs to analyse mirages. Based on papers he wrote and discussions I had with him I concluded that the Crocker Land mirage had to be a mirage of a real object far beyond the horizon. In fact, and this is amazing, when analysed closely, this mirage could be explained in terms of land which exists inside a Polar Hole! Do Crocker Land and Sannikov Land lie at opposite ends of a Polar Hole which lies near Canada? And so I conclude that I have indeed found my first evidence of a Polar Hole and that it exists several hundred miles from the coast of Canada. |
This are one of the very few accounts by explorers on the apparent missing continent.Still most of them don't see it.
| QUOTE (Engulf @ Dec 8 2003, 09:19 AM) |
| I've some info about this apparent explorer (didn't found the hole) who had discovered a hidden land,known as the Crocker Land.I'll just qoute them from the site. |
I remember this story. I think that a temperature inversion is the most popular explanation for what was thought to be seen.
As I understand it, when a temperature layer inversion occurs, thinks like icebergs or land masses that are far away can look as if they are much taller and/or closer than what is actually the true position of the item.
Here is a link that can explain it better than I can:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inversion_layer
Is that what happened here? I am not sure, but it does explain the landmass he thought that he saw. I doubt that he was lost in anyway, as he was far to experienced to be lost. However, I would bet that he could have seen this effect and been confused.
| QUOTE (BobaFett @ Dec 7 2003, 08:52 PM) |
| Although this has nothing to do with this hollow earth thing, (which it's not), Loque, you have the best little moving pic I have ever seen. what is it anyway? |
i know this is off topic, so sorry, anyway its the magical chalk monster of the land of green its soughta like an elegieraappo
| QUOTE (bathory @ Dec 8 2003, 01:47 PM) |
| the thing is that there is evidence of bigfoot, dozens of eye witness accounts etc when it comes to hollow earth, there is for all intents and purposes nothing... just because some religous texts mention stuff under the ground does not suddenly mean that there is an entire world. With todays satellite imaging, you would think some rather large holes would be fairly easy to spot... |
well, more intelligent things are said to live down there than we are, in their eyes we prolly still are cavemen, look at their point of view would you wan't to talk to someone who would most likely arm you for the porpose of science
one more thing, i think theres a better photo of the hole in the pole.,
That as a photo taken by the Apollo 11 crew if i remember correctly:)
Nothing but a break in the clouds..
Nothing but a break in the clouds..
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| well, more intelligent things are said to live down there than we are, in their eyes we prolly still are cavemen, look at their point of view would you wan't to talk to someone who would most likely arm you for the porpose of science |
and?
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| one more thing, i think theres a better photo of the hole in the pole., |
this one?
I guess this would have been one of the worst pictures I've seen regarding the hollow earth theory. I mean look at the picture.....anyone would have easily spotted the flaws of this pic,I think some 8 yr old kid would've done a better job.
I mean look at the picture.....anyone would have easily spotted the flaws of this pic,I think some 8 yr old kid would've done a better job. | QUOTE |
| well, more intelligent things are said to live down there than we are, in their eyes we prolly still are cavemen, look at their point of view would you wan't to talk to someone who would most likely arm you for the porpose of science |
I've heard that the apparent King of The World (not to be mistaken Chris Jericho
) have already had a secret 'meeting' with President Reagan.If you've read the logs of Admiral Byrd,this KoTW said that he would come up to the surface world to discuss with our people about problems regarding the pollution of our planet soon.That was in 1947 and the meeting took place sometime during his presidency times (if not mistaken '81-'89).Opps,let's not transfer to the conspiracy side.
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| I guess this would have been one of the worst pictures I've seen regarding the hollow earth theory. I mean look at the picture.....anyone would have easily spotted the flaws of this pic,I think some 8 yr old kid would've done a better job. |
interesting, care to point them out?
Alright this is how I feel,look at the curves at the edges of Earth.Don't you think it's just...how do I say it,round like some ping-pong ball??I meant too much of a round to be Earth itself,but that's not too much of the case.More importantly look at that hole,looks like the hole's been dug up by some people rather then being a natural polar hole itself. I haven't seen the polar hole myself but this one's perfectly,& superbly round in shape & there's even markings on the sides of the hole.Is it crayon or something..... This picture's just full of doubts to me personally.But thanks for posting the picture bathory ,perhaps others might find it intriguing in terms of other perspectives.
I haven't seen the polar hole myself but this one's perfectly,& superbly round in shape & there's even markings on the sides of the hole.Is it crayon or something..... This picture's just full of doubts to me personally.But thanks for posting the picture bathory ,perhaps others might find it intriguing in terms of other perspectives.
no not that photo, i'am shore someone took a sattalite, photo of it on a good close up shot i'll look into it., also i heared the boss of the underrelm meets with a pacifist, the DALAI LAMA
| QUOTE (Loque @ Dec 9 2003, 10:45 AM) |
| no not that photo, i'am shore someone took a sattalite, photo of it on a good close up shot i'll look into it., also i heared the boss of the underrelm meets with a pacifist, the DALAI LAMA |
Ah you reminded me of this Loque.I've also heard that there's an apparent 'route' to the inner Earth through a Tibetan monastery which lies somewhere in the Himalayan Mountains.It's also said that alledged Hindu monks are guarding the entrance.
The question is,is the Dalai Lama part of this covering up mess too???
The Dalai Lama is supposed to be the under kings representative on the surface
| QUOTE (Loque @ Dec 9 2003, 04:46 PM) |
| The Dalai Lama is supposed to be the under kings representative on the surface |
well here's a concept: why not just ask his holiness the Dalai Lama himself? He never lies.
Contact: Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama, P.O. Mcleod Ganj, Dharamsala (H.P.) - 176219, INDIA
Tel: [91-(0) 1892] 221343/221879, Fax: [91-(0) 1892] 221813
E-mail: ohhdl@vsnl.com
| QUOTE (Loque @ Dec 9 2003, 04:46 PM) |
| The Dalai Lama is supposed to be the under kings representative on the surface |
....I see,never did heard much about the Agharthians from him though....
no seriously people, go ask his Holiness.
Contact: Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama, P.O. Mcleod Ganj, Dharamsala (H.P.) - 176219, INDIA
Tel: [91-(0) 1892] 221343/221879, Fax: [91-(0) 1892] 221813
E-mail: ohhdl@vsnl.com
Contact: Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama, P.O. Mcleod Ganj, Dharamsala (H.P.) - 176219, INDIA
Tel: [91-(0) 1892] 221343/221879, Fax: [91-(0) 1892] 221813
E-mail: ohhdl@vsnl.com
Moe,my last post was directed to Loque's .Anyway thank you for the info supplied,now I'm afraid whether the Dalai Lama would report anyone asking about this to the....u know and then the next thing u know,u're being hunted
.Anyway thank you for the info supplied,now I'm afraid whether the Dalai Lama would report anyone asking about this to the....u know and then the next thing u know,u're being hunted
| QUOTE (moe eubleck @ Dec 9 2003, 09:20 AM) |
| no seriously people, go ask his Holiness. Contact: Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama, P.O. Mcleod Ganj, Dharamsala (H.P.) - 176219, INDIA Tel: [91-(0) 1892] 221343/221879, Fax: [91-(0) 1892] 221813 E-mail: ohhdl@vsnl.com |
I don't know about you folks, but I love the idea of the Dalai Lama having an email address...
Something about that just seems to be fundementally funny, I am sure there are about a dozen SNL skits that could be based on that concept alone...
would they have computers in the middle of tibet right in the mountain ranges?
the year in tibet is still 2004. sheesh
i mean i thinks its going to be rather hard to install a power grid in the middle of a friggin mountain range!
further more, i thought only high ranked and true holy people are allowed to go to many parts of tibet?
i think they have some hefty penelties if this is broken
further more, i thought only high ranked and true holy people are allowed to go to many parts of tibet?
i think they have some hefty penelties if this is broken
| QUOTE (Loque @ Dec 10 2003, 08:33 PM) |
| i mean i thinks its going to be rather hard to install a power grid in the middle of a friggin mountain range! |
Maybe the Agarthians supplies power to them.....
Or maybe they just have a portable generator, to supply them with heat, lights, and other things to make sure they don't die
| QUOTE (Seraphina @ Dec 11 2003, 04:51 PM) |
| Or maybe they just have a portable generator, to supply them with heat, lights, and other things to make sure they don't die |
Ah,possibility No.2...
lol, anythings possible perhaps they can use spiritual energy instead?
interesting...maybe there are people living in the earth. who really knows?
| QUOTE (paraclete1 @ Dec 8 2003, 10:27 AM) |
| I don't know what you all are going on about, the earth isn't hollow, it's flat. I suppose next you'll be telling me the earth revolves around the Sun. But Seriously, I'm new to this forum and I'm surprised by some of the comments made to deny the existance or possibility of something. Granted, we may not be able to prove something does exist, but to say that it can't exist because we have no proof seems a little closed minded to me. We continue to find things that change the way we've thought constantly. Gorillas were another "BigFoot" myth until the last century, scientist said that nothing could live in tempertures of 400 degrees until they found those microbes near volcanic vents at the bottom of the ocean, and at one time, they said "nothing" would ever go faster than 35 mph because to go any faster would "suck" the air from your lungs. I personally believe that we have a world full of undiscovered wonders around us that many of us miss, simply because we've been taught that "That can't be!" Once I climbed "out of the Box," I found that many of my perceptions and beliefs of most of my life were simply not so. I for one, will give any theory the benefit of a doubt. Having worked for the military, I know for a fact that the public is not told everything. I also believe that everything will make itself known when the time is right. I treat life like an unfinished novel. I know that I'm dead in the end, but I can't wait to see how it finishes. As for the Hollow Earth theory, I believe it's possible, although I may have trouble with the internal sun, I can see that someone could live underground. Heck if I could, I would. Thanks for hearing me out. Don |
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ah yes! someone who thinks like me! those are practically the same words i used when arguing with my father this afternoon!
slendid! i love you!
After seeing the map and supposed hole pictures in the miscellaneous gallery on this site, I became instantly interested.
I searched the subject, and found quite a few theories and ideas..
The most interesting one, I read here:
The Underground Kingdom of Light
I looked in the forums for another topic on this, but didnt see anything...
I am eager to discuss this with someone whose interested, or has heard anything else about this.
If there is another thread about it, I'm sorry.
And this might be in the wrong forum.
Again, Im new, forgive me.
I searched the subject, and found quite a few theories and ideas..
The most interesting one, I read here:
The Underground Kingdom of Light
I looked in the forums for another topic on this, but didnt see anything...
I am eager to discuss this with someone whose interested, or has heard anything else about this.
If there is another thread about it, I'm sorry.
And this might be in the wrong forum.
Again, Im new, forgive me.
Heck, do a search on the net and you'll find a group setting up a boat trip to the entrance to hollow earth (No guarantees) All they need from you is $5,000.00 and you get a bunk.
Who sits around and makes up this tat?
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