Lo-Fied
May 12 2007, 09:56 AM
Good evening...
This is gonna be a pretty long post but I felt it best to try and cover as much as I can.
Its been a long time since I last been on here. Well, I have to say its been over a year. Last time I was on here back in Dec '05 I was under a severe infestation of "shadows beings".
I was really at my wits end. No one to turn to. And I myself was under attack. I was becoming unstable and very edgy and my precious art skills felt like they were being taken away from me. I could not focus. I was always feeling something(s) was watching me and hovering around me as if "waiting" for the opportunity. I was always catching the trail end of things running away. And there was the constant creaking noises of the floorboards. My issue would've been considered nowhere as bad as most cases I read about but it was on that path.
With no one else to turn to, I came here down to my last bit of sanity and BEGGED for someone to help or at least point me in the right direction of someone who could be of help. Even if it was just listening. I needed someone that would not shoot off into religious rants or that had ulterior motives to bring me into their little groups. And someone who was sincere, knew what they were doing and legit!!!
The person that came forward at that time was Ken Wilson(Necromancer). Thanks to him, my life was set back straight! He did not ask for money or demanded I commit my soul or life to some BS religion. Through me he detected over 20 shadows in this house! Problem was they were not very happy about me seeking help and the fight began. He managed to remove them with alot of divine help. It was as if a storm came and left. The equivalent of when you turn the light on or off in your closet. I could sleep peacefully. The focus levels on my art was returning to normal, the rage and anger I had building up totally vanished. But, as if just like the shadows Ken has totally vanished off the net. And once again its happening... They are back.
Over the year I was in good spirits, I realized that the issues I had with my art and well being was due to having low amounts of sleep. We can blame Uncle Sam for that.
Well, I focused in on that issue and I have just been feeling great. No problems there. Up until the past 2 weeks. As I was sitting here I kept noticing how my monitors kept flickering on & off as if power was being sucked from them. I seen this before. This was when Ken 1st drove the shadows away. I still recall the night as if it was yesterday because the only thing that ran through my mind was: I cant believe this is happening! If only you guys could've heard the noises coming from outside this very room as Ken started working away. I cant begin to even describe it. All I felt was anger, hate and malice.
As the past few days been going on, my sleep cycle has got jacked up again. My focus on my art is fading, I am becoming edgy again and the creaking noises and that "sensation" of being watched is returning. Its nowhere as bad as it was back then but I want to crack down on it NOW! But this time where Ken left off, I want to get rid of them and keep it THAT WAY! Everything as to how I feel now I can say I now understand it is related to my sleep levels. Well, those 2 weeks ago when all that fell apart, my brain just went into a "shock". It felt like energy shot through it! I was on my way to sleep and as if hit by a heat lamp, my brain went into overdrive! for over 48hrs I could not sleep! Then after that, even when eyes are closed and the body shuts down, my brain STILL would not drop out of high gear! I'd lay down with nothing on my mind and feeling pretty good. But my brain would not shut down no matter what. I tried sleep aids(bad idea), 5-HTP and serotonin(worthless) and now I just popped about friggin' 6 Tryptophan pills and my mind STILL WILL NOT SHUT OFF!!!
Its as if whatever it is knows that as long as my sleep cycle is destroyed it can reel me back to where I was before the last ones were wiped out. I feel the stares, I hear the creaking and I get chills. But the differences I notice is my brain feels like a surge of heat is going through it! Out of all the things I have taken, there should NOT be any problems sleeping. But it comes to 1 question I can ask right now as I come to the end of this post for help. Can shadows screw with a person's sleep?! I dont mean appearing in dreams. My dreams have been average. The problem is my mind will not STOP dreaming(dream state is not true sleep*)! I can recall a good night's sleep. I barely or dont have any dreams at all and wake up fine and refreshed. But now, its not happening.
Once again I apologize for this long post and any admins, if this post is in an inappropriate forum, please let me know and feel free to move it. But for the record I will say this as I did the last time I came here seeking help. I am as average as they come. No worshiping of anyone or anything and I normally keep myself busy through my artwork. Naturally I am peaceful if not stirred and I try to keep myself as stress free as possible. Mainly through my artwork. Also, do not try to trigger a flame war on here with me or anyone else. Offer to help or point out help. Do not get in arguments of any kind as to who is right or wrong! Feel free to PM me if you like. That'd be great! But overall, this is a problem I want to try and seek experienced help on resolving.
Thank you
Threepwud
May 12 2007, 01:28 PM
Hi there mate!
I can't really give any advice as such but this thread
here seems to cover the exact problem you are having.
I am on page 9 thus far and it certainly seems to be full of positive help!
Maybe you can find some ideas there? Though I do know a lot of this is religious... If you are not religious then maybe you could just think of it all as positive mental vibes?
Good luck and best wishes.
Lo-Fied
May 12 2007, 03:10 PM
QUOTE(Threepwud @ May 12 2007, 09:28 AM) [snapback]1671583[/snapback]
Hi there mate!
I can't really give any advice as such but this thread
here seems to cover the exact problem you are having.
I am on page 9 thus far and it certainly seems to be full of positive help!
Maybe you can find some ideas there? Though I do know a lot of this is religious... If you are not religious then maybe you could just think of it all as positive mental vibes?
Good luck and best wishes.
Thanks. Any advice is better than none. I'll read through it.
missbeliever
May 12 2007, 03:33 PM
QUOTE(Lo-Fied @ May 12 2007, 11:10 AM) [snapback]1671656[/snapback]
Thanks. Any advice is better than none. I'll read through it.
I know you don't want to hear anything religous but since you are more open now to any advice, here is what I think might be happening.God wants to be apart of your life (a friend) to help you .Could it be that you don't want anything to do with him? Anyway I believe God and Satan are as one.If you don't believe in either, they will try to prove themselves to you.If your not allowing God in ,Satan will try.If Satan gets you to believe he exists,God has a better chance of becomming your friend.If you believe they are both here to to help you ,to be your friend. God and Satan will become one again as God. And God will help you through everything if you believe enough.Call him on it,he''ll be there.I know ,sounds bazaar,but it works for me.
Lo-Fied
May 12 2007, 08:49 PM
QUOTE(missbeliever @ May 12 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]1671678[/snapback]
I know you don't want to hear anything religous but since you are more open now to any advice, here is what I think might be happening.God wants to be apart of your life (a friend) to help you .Could it be that you don't want anything to do with him? Anyway I believe God and Satan are as one.If you don't believe in either, they will try to prove themselves to you.If your not allowing God in ,Satan will try.If Satan gets you to believe he exists,God has a better chance of becomming your friend.If you believe they are both here to to help you ,to be your friend. God and Satan will become one again as God. And God will help you through everything if you believe enough.Call him on it,he''ll be there.I know ,sounds bazaar,but it works for me.
Dont take this the wrong way. But it is stuff just like THAT that has bothered me and pushed me away from either side of the coin. Sorry, I really appreciate that you read and offered some advice. But as I said, no religion. I wont go into it but thats just as mixed up and cooky as the garbage written in that book! He's a kind and loving god yet quick to turn ye to dust if ya look at him wrong. Sorry, my views on love and respect dont include "fear". If you FEAR me, how can I truly tell you LOVE me? And as for Satan, I'll put it in a handbag. I believe that both exist. I just dont think in a way our religions lead on about. But as I told Ken when he offered his help: I am not interested in either side because neither does anything unless its of absolute benefit to them.
Despite being a high priest he was'nt even 1 bit interested in me joining his religion or money. Yeah, I too am a bit weirded by that till this day. But he got the job done without trying lay on the "you need to join or believe" rap. Pretty pointless saying "I need to believe" when my mind to him was 1 of the most opened around. Which made the task easy for him to accomplish.
So its not really a thing that I DONT want to hear any religious advice. Its the thing that I dont want to hear any of that recycled banter thats been going on over the decades. People should join of their own free will. NOT because they feel threatened. If any religious person should offer advice, try to think outside the box for a change. Which I know is pretty darn hard to do. If this was happening to a Bhuddist(Which I have yet to seen or read*) would you find it wise to try and talk them into Christianity? In other words just dont come offering advice thats nothing but a sales pitch or an attempt to cause fear and other negative emotions to drag me in to your groups. Thats all I am asking because IT WONT WORK!
missbeliever
May 12 2007, 08:57 PM
QUOTE(Lo-Fied @ May 12 2007, 04:49 PM) [snapback]1671919[/snapback]
Dont take this the wrong way. But it is stuff just like THAT that has bothered me and pushed me away from either side of the coin. Sorry, I really appreciate that you read and offered some advice. But as I said, no religion. I wont go into it but thats just as mixed up and cooky as the garbage written in that book! He's a kind and loving god yet quick to turn ye to dust if ya look at him wrong. Sorry, my views on love and respect dont include "fear". If you FEAR me, how can I truly tell you LOVE me? And as for Satan, I'll put it in a handbag. I believe that both exist. I just dont think in a way our religions lead on about. But as I told Ken when he offered his help: I am not interested in either side because neither does anything unless its of absolute benefit to them.
Despite being a high priest he was'nt even 1 bit interested in me joining his religion or money. Yeah, I too am a bit weirded by that till this day. But he got the job done without trying lay on the "you need to join or believe" rap. Pretty pointless saying "I need to believe" when my mind to him was 1 of the most opened around. Which made the task easy for him to accomplish.
So its not really a thing that I DONT want to hear any religious advice. Its the thing that I dont want to hear any of that recycled banter thats been going on over the decades. People should join of their own free will. NOT because they feel threatened. If any religious person should offer advice, try to think outside the box for a change. Which I know is pretty darn hard to do. If this was happening to a Bhuddist(Which I have yet to seen or read*) would you find it wise to try and talk them into Christianity? In other words just dont come offering advice thats nothing but a sales pitch or an attempt to cause fear and other negative emotions to drag me in to your groups. Thats all I am asking because IT WONT WORK!
I know how ya feel.
What works for some doesn't work for everybody.Everybody finds their own way of dealing with stuff.I hope you can find a solution that your comfortable with.
Shankpin
May 12 2007, 09:07 PM
QUOTE(Lo-Fied @ May 12 2007, 03:49 PM) [snapback]1671919[/snapback]
In other words just dont come offering advice thats nothing but a sales pitch or an attempt to cause fear and other negative emotions to drag me in to your groups. Thats all I am asking because IT WONT WORK!
Well, don't take things so defensive.
I believe the OP was just giving their advice, as you came here for remember? You already reject a possible solution to your problem-- .. Dont make that mistake it would be wise to keep all options open, considering.
You don't have to be religios or join any groups to become clean of such things..that sounds insane.
Barek Halfhand
May 12 2007, 10:13 PM
why do you think they are attracted to you Mr lo-Fied?.........would you consider this a symbiotic relationship?.....B
halfhandshuffle:log-ruin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYlZAI2K0eU...ted&search=
Thozzman
May 12 2007, 10:25 PM
It's happening again?!?
OMFG!!!! RUN! FLEE! FLEE! BWAAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAA!
~Onyx~
May 12 2007, 10:29 PM
May I ask how Necromancer got rid of these..."entities"....previously?
BRAT2
May 12 2007, 10:53 PM
QUOTE(Thozzman @ May 12 2007, 03:25 PM) [snapback]1671990[/snapback]
It's happening again?!?
OMFG!!!! RUN! FLEE! FLEE! BWAAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAA!
Lo-Fied
May 13 2007, 12:29 AM
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ May 12 2007, 06:13 PM) [snapback]1671979[/snapback]
why do you think they are attracted to you Mr lo-Fied?.........would you consider this a symbiotic relationship?.....B
halfhandshuffle:log-ruin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYlZAI2K0eU...ted&search=I honestly cannot say. I even asked Necromancer as to what could be the deal. Never got an answer.
That was 1 of the things I been hoping to ask him again if he ever popped back up online.
Despite my open thinking if you wanna call it such, I never dabbled into anything other than art and pc/electronics stuff. Yeah, Im a geek. Heh, but I just do not know.
~Onyx~, that part I kinda was withholding deliberately unless someone PM'ed me to ask about it. Im a sketso with forums because as "Thozzman" just demonstrated. You never get much good out of them. I hate flames and I hate people who feel being /b/tards make them the bigger person. So I avoid these places like a condemned building. But, it got so bad that one time I could'nt see any other answer before me but to take a chance and see who amongst all of you was "mature" to take the request seriously. The 1st attempt was a shocker that it yeilded positive results. So that is why I am rolling the dice once again.
But if you PM'ed me I'll explain everything.
coldethyl
May 13 2007, 01:27 AM
Not being rude here, but how is your mental state?
Barek Halfhand
May 13 2007, 01:37 AM
QUOTE(Lo-Fied @ May 12 2007, 07:29 PM) [snapback]1672072[/snapback]
I honestly cannot say. I even asked Necromancer as to what could be the deal. Never got an answer.
That was 1 of the things I been hoping to ask him again if he ever popped back up online.
Despite my open thinking if you wanna call it such, I never dabbled into anything other than art and pc/electronics stuff. Yeah, Im a geek. Heh, but I just do not know.
Would you consider yourself a left brainer.?....AND what if I were to use the word
balance in relation to a shadow entity what would your response be?.......B
halfhandshuffle:kiss-100,000 years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_a-NYivv6o
Lo-Fied
May 13 2007, 01:43 AM
QUOTE(coldethyl @ May 12 2007, 09:27 PM) [snapback]1672125[/snapback]
Not being rude here, but how is your mental state?
Right now just very tired. But everytime I even think sleep I feel this surge of "heat" run through my head as if it was placed under a heat lamp.
So, I guess you could say Im more aggravated and edgy now due to being tired.
Lady_Anvilabeel
May 13 2007, 01:51 AM
QUOTE
As the past few days been going on, my sleep cycle has got jacked up again. My focus on my art is fading, I am becoming edgy again and the creaking noises and that "sensation" of being watched is returning. Its nowhere as bad as it was back then but I want to crack down on it NOW! But this time where Ken left off, I want to get rid of them and keep it THAT WAY! Everything as to how I feel now I can say I now understand it is related to my sleep levels. Well, those 2 weeks ago when all that fell apart, my brain just went into a "shock". It felt like energy shot through it! I was on my way to sleep and as if hit by a heat lamp, my brain went into overdrive! for over 48hrs I could not sleep! Then after that, even when eyes are closed and the body shuts down, my brain STILL would not drop out of high gear! I'd lay down with nothing on my mind and feeling pretty good. But my brain would not shut down no matter what. I tried sleep aids(bad idea), 5-HTP and serotonin(worthless) and now I just popped about friggin' 6 Tryptophan pills and my mind STILL WILL NOT SHUT OFF!!!
Doesn't sound like haunting problem to me

but a sleep related disorder. Have you seen your DR about this?
Lo-Fied
May 13 2007, 01:52 AM
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ May 12 2007, 09:37 PM) [snapback]1672134[/snapback]
Would you consider yourself a left brainer.?....AND what if I were to use the word
balance in relation to a shadow entity what would your response be?.......B
halfhandshuffle:kiss-100,000 years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_a-NYivv6oIm more "right" than left. As for how I would relate "balance" to a shadow entity, I dont know. See, I never really did much digging on these things other than reading about them feeding on fear and not actually being ghosts or demons. So my experience aside from what happened in the past is very limited. Sorry, I cannot answer that question.
Lo-Fied
May 13 2007, 02:02 AM
QUOTE(Anvil @ May 12 2007, 09:51 PM) [snapback]1672143[/snapback]
Doesn't sound like haunting problem to me

but a sleep related disorder. Have you seen your DR about this?
Still debating on even bothering. Last thing I need is being handed another prescription of useless meds. Especially Prozac. So the doctor is the last resort for now as the last time. Because even after talking to them the issue never got better and my sleeping patterns were more screwed up.
Barek Halfhand
May 13 2007, 02:02 AM
QUOTE(Lo-Fied @ May 12 2007, 08:52 PM) [snapback]1672146[/snapback]
Im more "right" than left. As for how I would relate "balance" to a shadow entity, I dont know. See, I never really did much digging on these things other than reading about them feeding on fear and not actually being ghosts or demons. So my experience aside from what happened in the past is very limited. Sorry, I cannot answer that question.
a PSI vamp?....perhaps an AP PSI vamp?........and not a spirit at all?....(AP-astral projected)......or is it really a cloaked alien/inter dimensional being?....B



Shankpin
May 13 2007, 02:03 AM
These problems you describe seem somewhat vague-- Maybe you need to be (more) specific and take the chances on trolls. You got some help here the first time with the first shot, this place isn't so bad. There are people here that would be willing to help you, or give you advice without pushing religion, or joining some group, as you have said you were afraid of.... imo.
coldethyl
May 13 2007, 01:23 PM
QUOTE(Lo-Fied @ May 12 2007, 08:43 PM) [snapback]1672139[/snapback]
Right now just very tired. But everytime I even think sleep I feel this surge of "heat" run through my head as if it was placed under a heat lamp.
So, I guess you could say Im more aggravated and edgy now due to being tired.
QUOTE(Lo-Fied @ May 12 2007, 09:02 PM) [snapback]1672150[/snapback]
Still debating on even bothering. Last thing I need is being handed another prescription of useless meds. Especially Prozac. So the doctor is the last resort for now as the last time. Because even after talking to them the issue never got better and my sleeping patterns were more screwed up.
So you have been under psychiatric care?
What was your diagnosis if you don't mind me asking?
missbeliever
May 13 2007, 02:53 PM
You could be suffering the side effects of some of the medications you have been taking.It can take months to get all that out of your system,depending on how long and much you took of it.Have you considered maybe taking a break from your normal activities and doing something different,whether it be traveling,a sport, or just getting out of your environment for awhile for relaxation?
Barek Halfhand
May 13 2007, 03:12 PM
QUOTE(Lo-Fied @ May 12 2007, 09:02 PM) [snapback]1672150[/snapback]
Last thing I need is being handed another prescription of useless meds
AMEN!!!!

......B
halfhandshuffle:Lacuna Coil - Swamped
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly9E30Hc5pg
Jennie 1
May 13 2007, 11:50 PM
I have a question,(o.k. well a few

) if you don't mind. Would you consider yourself a little (or a lot) hyperactive in your normal state without meds?
Do you begin a project and then stop to do another, and then go back to finish the first, and then go back to finish the second?
Do you forget things all of the time, like appointments or putting the clothes in the dryer or where your keys are?
Do you have trouble paying attention to things around you? Do you have times when someone is talking to you and you are daydreaming and have to "snap out of it" to hear what they are saying?
Lo-Fied
May 14 2007, 02:45 AM
Sorry for the delay in replies everyone.
Barek-
Cant say in regards to a psy vamp or whatnot. As for the alien thing. Cant say. The most unusual thing that used to be in the skies here was a star I never seen for as long as I lived here until last year. A friend of mine claimed it was some hidden planet just discovered in our solar system. Cant remember the name. To be honest I lost interest in getting more info on it. Sorry man.
One odd thing is that I could never stand looking directly at it(which was what had him telling me about it*) because everytime I did, I felt "weak" like my energy was being sapped.
Coldethyl-
While I was in the service I was given prozac because I became violent and under ALOT of stress. Word to those who are in are plan to go in...STAY AWAY FROM AVIATION UNITS AT ALL COSTS! Anyways. I was'nt "committed" or anything. Just given a prescription to that mess only to see it had no effect on me at all. I'll have to say when these "moments" started was after I got out and came home.
Missbeliever-
Yeah, I have no problems pushing aside the things im taking now. I would'nt really call them meds since they are considered more as "dietary suppliments". Afterall Tryptophan is still banned from sale in the US but open to sale from OUTSIDE the country but under the "dietary suppliments" category. It was recommended by a friend who was nurse at a local hospital and a few sites for people having issues going to sleep & staying asleep.
As for breaking my routine. Not too much of a solid set routine. I get out more than enough unless I need to stay in to get something done. So, I dont stick to a plan all the time and keep myself pretty occupied. A vacation, is a ways off. But I do drive if I have the gas & time and walk around alot.
Cyge-
To the question in the order they were asked:
1-Not hyperactive at all with or without the "suppliments" or when I was on prozac
2-Yes, I choose that method due to the fact that Im not a "fast" person at all^^. So I spread myself out to cover more ground. Works good,
3-Thats very rare with me. But yes, it does happen
4-No, 1 thing everyone who knows me will say is I have a very good sense of paying attention and listening. Or so THEY say;)
Ok, everyone Last night I actually had a good night's sleep! Dont know if its 1 of those things that comes or goes or a side effect to something. But all last night, no noises and even the "burning" sensation has went away. Not sure what it could've been and I apologize if it seemed like a "false alarm". But so far it seems that I am getting back to "normal"...in a sense. But what I'd like to do is keep this thread open if its ok with the mods. Mom4 sent me some very good information as well that I will be looking into. Thanks MOM! Heh!
Overall Im really in better spirits now. Like a passing storm. I really could'nt say what happened now. But still if this thread could be kept open, I'll come back to it and give an update if anything changes.
Thank you
Barek Halfhand
May 14 2007, 02:50 AM
anybody want a new theory from "bareks' paranoid playlist"?......(need more than 3 votes -yes).....B
Jennie 1
May 14 2007, 02:59 AM
Thanks for the honest answers.
I was going to say that maybe the sedatives and anti-depressants worked in the opposite for you as they did with my brother, because he was hyperactive.
He had to start drinking coffee every night to get to sleep.
You, obviously, don't have that same problem.
I would suggest going to a really good Dr. and letting him check you out.
The heat in the brain thing makes me worry for you.
Thozzman
May 14 2007, 03:28 AM
It's a mental disorder. Probably caused by sleep paralysis.
coldethyl
May 14 2007, 03:10 PM
^^ That doesn't even make sense.
Barek Halfhand
May 14 2007, 03:19 PM
QUOTE(cyqe @ May 13 2007, 09:59 PM) [snapback]1673759[/snapback]
because he was hyperactive.
He had to start drinking coffee every night to get to sleep.
it's an interesting paradox for those of us who are hyperactive.....stimulants calm us......B
halfhandshuffle:ramones-pinhead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3pSfKHlGLo
Thozzman
May 14 2007, 03:53 PM
QUOTE(coldethyl @ May 14 2007, 11:10 AM) [snapback]1674473[/snapback]
^^ That doesn't even make sense.
Paranormal phenomena and a host of folks that post here make no sense,thought I'd jump on the bandwagon.
coldethyl
May 14 2007, 04:25 PM
QUOTE(Thozzman @ May 14 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]1674561[/snapback]
Paranormal phenomena and a host of folks that post here make no sense,thought I'd jump on the bandwagon.

I just meant that sleep paralysis can't bring on mental illness. Why in the world would you want to be like the senseless?
bowlgun
May 14 2007, 04:39 PM
QUOTE(Thozzman @ May 12 2007, 05:25 PM) [snapback]1671990[/snapback]
It's happening again?!?
OMFG!!!! RUN! FLEE! FLEE! BWAAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAA!
come on now. If you don't like what he says, say that. this is a good site let's keep it that way, no need to inflame.
bowlgun
May 14 2007, 04:42 PM
QUOTE(Thozzman @ May 14 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]1674561[/snapback]
Paranormal phenomena and a host of folks that post here make no sense,thought I'd jump on the bandwagon.

O.k. I give you that, but strange things do happen we have no explaination for.
Thozzman
May 14 2007, 04:46 PM
QUOTE(bowlgun @ May 14 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]1674631[/snapback]
O.k. I give you that, but strange things do happen we have no explaination for.
I was drunk on rum and ranting, sorry.
I'm not shy.
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