Hey guys, I was on a site and I happened to be browsing around and I seen this link so I clicked on it. I was just wondering what you guys think of it. I don't really know what to make of it ... I know my cell phone doesn't take video that clear, but it could be a very expensive model. Anyways ... enjoy.

http://paranormal.about.com/od/timeanddime...ime_travele.htm

Gene

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wow thats really cool, but who was holding the mobile ? maybe his future wife but its a real good vid thanks for putting it on here

Interesting, thanks for the post.

No prob. guys, I wonder who is holding the phone, I thought it was him at first then it just don't look like it towards the end. I dunno, but it's an interesting find for sure. If anyone else finds anything or has any comments, feel free to post.

Gene

Weird. Any more info on it that anyone knows of?

man, that's odd! Thanks for the link. Made me wonder!

I know exactly how the guy feels.
I've had a time travel experience but went into the past instead of the future.
I figure the year was around the turn of the century, 1890s early 1900s.

I realize no one will believe me but I still tell the story once in awhile just in case someone's had a similar experience.
Cool vid, thanks!

I don't have any info on it cause this is the first time I've seen it, and I've my share of vids and pics, there's pretty well nothin I haven't seen, but some more info on this would be great like eggumby said.

Well Thozzman, the way I see it, I believe you until proved different lol. That's why I believe in all this kinda stuff. People can say that there's no proof and that's why they don't believe, but why do countless number of people come here posting things like they do? Somthing has to happen to at least some of thoes people, they all aren't lying. Here's my little story of time displacement ... it's not as cool as yours but nonetheless it happened to me and a friend, I guess more like a time glitch:



One night between 1:30- 2:00 am me and my friend we're driving home from a friends house and we were on this stretch of road no more than a kilometer long, kind of a back road type thing. So we were driving fine and turned onto this road and it was a nice night you know, stars out and whatnot, and about 30 seconds onto this road a turn comes. So when we got to the turn it was foggy all of a sudden, which is no suprise because where I'm from it's constantly foggy so I paid no attention to it. Around this turn the road turns from flat to a hill you drive up and for some reason it seems like it took us forever to get up it, even though we were doin 70 km/h. So we eventually get to the top of the hill where there is another turn in the road and flattens out again and when we get there and got around the turn the fog dissapears and we're all of a sudden back at the bottom of the hill.... all we could think was WFT just happend? This whole road shouldn't take you any longer than 5 minutes to drive but I remember us looking at the time and wondering why 15 minutes had gone by and why we were still at the same point. Yip, freaked me out pretty good.

I think it's interesting that the sun is behind them at such an angle that you never get a clear view of the face of the 70 year old.

Yeah I noticed that too ... seems sketchy, but cool if it's true.

The tattoo looked a bit fresh though to be about 30 years old dont you think!!!

Load of cod

How did this happen? My Brother also tells me of this experience he had, however when he had it, it was after smoking some salvia. If you are unaware it is a very powerful drug you smoke preferably through a bong, after inhaling you kind've black out and really have no control of your physical body at all.
The story he tells is he went back to a previous life (at least that is the feeling he had that it was his previous life) he is unaware of the year but he said he was walking down a cobble stone road fixing the street lights, only they weren't lights, they were torches.
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Actually, it was the tattoo that made me really wonder!

When someone first has a tattoo, it is nice and fresh, colours are vibrant, the outline is very clear and it is of a certain size. However, as time goes on, the outline will become slightly "fuzzy" and instead of appearing black, it will be dark blue, the tattoo also tends to grow outwards (I guess this is just the way skin grows), when the tattoos were put side by side, the older one looked exactly as it should do compared to the younger one. The older bloke also looked exactly like the younger man except of course he had aged.

Curious story! I wonder if he gleaned any info about his own future

On an even more curious point, when the younger bloke gets older, he should by all accounts expect a "visit" from his own self from the past lol. Now that really would be something if that was filmed!!!

YOU CAN HAVE TATOOS RECOLOURED. HE DIDNT MENTION HOW HE GOT BACK. PERSONALY IF I HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE I WOULD BE VERY VERY AFRAID, NOT LAUGHING AND ENJOYING.

Yeah that's astral projection through drugs, I've experienced it too except I wasn't lucky enough to experience something that exotic, I had a 'fantasy' that occured in the same house I was in at the time without anything unusual happening, it's just like a dream.

Whoever commented about the freshness of tattoo raised a good point.

I do believe in time travel but I dont believe this is such a case, it just is too sketchy and I have tats that are less old then that and are very faded compared to it. also neither of them are holding the camera I believe we saw all of their arms so they arent holding it.


too many holes in the story, and he didnt look 70

What if...it was just some old guy that had the same tattoo as him?

Who's to say that if one of his future selves could do it, then maybe another or a past younger him was holding the cell phone recorder.

A moment when that time coexisted at the same moment in their respective time frames. Interesting it is though.

Man, you people are easliy fooled..

I can make the same video with my mobile. My 'older self' would be my own father...

I find it strange that he mentions the puddle of water on the kitchen floor. I have heard or read that unexplained puddles of water can mean the existence of a nearby portal. My first thoughts were how he returned and did he bother to ask himself which stocks to buy?

yeah this is very intresting, and if that happend to me i'd tell everything about it, not just that little bit of info they gave us. how did he even know it was himself? was the guy waiting for him and told him or wtf?? also that older him looks a bit taller and idk. dont yo uget shorter the older you get? he looks very young for 70 if this is true, makes me wonder in the future we will look younger? and still wear same kinds of shirts. also i would made lots of videos with myself not just one.

well i watched the video a few more times and realized that, well the shirt he's wearing in the interview, looks alot like the shirt he is wearing when he is "older" 70's. or its the same shirt the old guy is wearing. wtf? maybe they have the same taste then lol.

Well at least that is pretty belivable.
i hate when people talk about past lives or time travel experences and they are someone of importance, or rich or in a huge house, most of these storys never involve being a real working person wich there were more of than sourthern belles in distress, or lords of manors, or generals in wars etc etc.at least when someone recounts an experence of maybe being a scullery maid or something, i have a bigger chance of beliving them.

This is my take on time travel:

comparing the period of time that is called "now" to the "past" and the "future" makes human time travel practically impossible. time is all relative, and in the past this moment did not yet exist, just like the future does not exist now.
you can't travel to a set time in the future, because it doesnt exist. you cant travel to the past because at that time, right now didnt exist.

the next part was brought up by Lotus Flower:

if time is as easily traveled as this, that same event must be happening right now or at least in an amount of time that would allow change to occur once we reach the time that the older him traveled from. if this seemingly unimportant man can travel through time, he caused a change that has, is , or will be affecting the entire world/universe.
once we reach that time, our lives have to start again from that point in order to make up for the change. if this is true, who knows the number of times that we have lived this same moment, all for the whimsical "visit" from some old dude in a time that doesn't exist yet.

its not real

It was really convincing!!

Well , when i read it that is what i myself remembered about it. You guys know what i write about here. The main sense i got from it was it was'nt past or future selves. It was a self from another probability line, the same with the guy recording it. The point in this and there's that meet, at the point in time he had his experiance.

The tatoo being newer even though the guy was older meant he got the tatoo later in life. I wonder what it meant to them, it had to mean something they share from a point when probability's were pretty much the same in their respective memory's. I had similiar encounters, but thought the basis behind the cause of such things incredable enough to others who can't understand. So i've never mentioned them.

It's common enough, it's just the rest of us know better then to speak of most of our encounters with things not excepted by those in this time line.

I find it hard to believe that you've encountered yourself in different probability lines, though i'm familiar with the idea.
people don't take into account the vastness of space and this universe because we are isolated on this planet. For two of the same person in different timelines to meet on the same planet (or a planet at all) is beyond imagination. Then for that person to meet their own self instead of the billions of other possibilities on this one planet is unlikely. The changes in different universes may be subtle, but just one change can cause a massive difference (see the Butterfly Effect). So much that it is impossible.

Nothings impossable, your assuming that your reality can't be changed within this one. There are places where time make's no sense, even to our scientists. All the theory's of the day of course, that touch on it. Though this thread is considered a hoax, does'nt invalidate it.

Time is'nt a liniar thing, only the worlds impression of it. It is admitted that other probability's exist, the confusion is how they exist.
Those probability's that make up your perception you call your reality, are in constant change, a large number of those changes no one notice's for the most part. With no memory of them, blurring those changes so they seem like a smooth continuty, your reality of percieved time.

Their are other "reality's" and they do touch strangely from time to time. Your nothing but a series of probability's that considers itself real, don't you think other sets of probability's that started at the same time as you were made are just as real with the same impression that there's is the only reality?

Sometimes they meet, more freguently, and in what can be called real world manifestations for some. Most times, it is'nt like that, the only impression most get are the interpitations within their writing that they try to convey in place's like U.M. To broad to give example's, don't want to write that much.

It did happen, whatever anyone say's, it's the interpitation's and then those who discount it, which confuse it.

I agree with you completely, it was my mistake not to consider exactly how these other "realities" exist, and who is to say, in a nonlinear time-space, where or when something is happening or is percieved to be happening.
the changes that we both talked about are so massively varied that sometimes the probabilities overlap, resulting in encounters such as yours or even this man's (though i believe "time traveler" still doesn't suit what really happened)

I agree, it does'nt suit what happened. Add further that the different set of probability's that are an individual within a given scenarioverse, don't have the same liniar advancement speed as this one. Faster, slower?

But there is no time or motion in your mind, and whatever probability paths have split off into another individual you, they all coexist at the same time, start to finish. You all share the same mind, whatever dirvirgence's have split your percieved "life".

I'm glad this video started as much conversation as it did. Here's a cool theory I found while reading another thread about time and what not and I thought you guys should read it, as someones post reminded me of it: Enjoy


The resonance theory

Jann Burner: Let me ask you to wrap your mind around the “idea” that TIME, as we perceive it, is not linear. It does not move from the past into the future like a highway. Nor does it begin on page one with something like “In the beginning…” and end three hundred pages later with something like, “and they lived happily ever after.” Just for sake of discussion, imagine that all “time”, everyone’s time, and everyone who you have ever been or will ever be and everything you have ever done or ever will do, is happening right now. And that it is only through the mechanism of your personal ego that you choose to identify with this particular linear spoke, date stamped, 2007. Imagine, if you will, that somehow, you are able to neutralize your date imprint and are able to traverse the “frequency” that comprises the entirety that is YOU. Now here is the interesting part. To a limited degree you can do this right now. And this is because you (Mr. or Ms. whoever) are a “Frequency” of Mind, a frequency of…intent, if you will, and what happens to you in one experience resonates across the specific frequency which is the entirety of you and you, in your current experience, will Feel the vibration!

Have you ever been sort of walking along, just being “you”, feeling perfectly “normal” and then, for no reason at all, you suddenly feel absolutely FANTASTIC! Nothing has changed in your current experience but your mood has suddenly been drastically altered. Likewise you might suddenly feel absolutely horrible, for no reason at all. Or you will have a very near fatal accident, in an automobile or perhaps a fall. These are all resonant effects of events which are happening to “you” along another specific radial within your frequency. You feel fantastic! Something incredibly wonderful has just happened to you along another radial of consciousness and the feeling resonates out over your entire frequency. Of course as it moves, the effect lessens over perceived time and distance. In one life experience you may have a fatal injury. You are dead! In another experience you simply have a very close call and in yet another experience you suddenly come down with a severe headache, or a bad case of the flu. These “feeling events” are also cued into time/date stamps. You die in one life at age 17. In this life at age 17 you break a leg. You are abandoned as a young child in one life. In this experience your parents get divorced when you are the exact same age as in the alternative life. And so it goes. Every thing that happens to you, every significant feeling you get is to a greater or lessor degree stimulated by “you” experiencing yourself in an alternate reality. And, you may ask, “Where does it start? And where does it end?”

This is called The Resonance Theory of Simultaneous Existence. We occupy our consciousness--all at once. What happens in one life experience resonates across all frequencies and influences all other life experiences. These feelings resonate across frequencies like small waves across the surface of the ocean. Our consciousness IS THE OCEAN. Our individuated feelings are like the waves upon the surface of that sea. Sometimes the waves move in unison, sometimes, as in a storm, they move in a very chaotic fashion across the surface. And sometimes, rarely, but it happens, there can be a Tsunami type wave which moves at astonishing speed across the surface altering everything it touches. In recent times these have been called World Wars!

This is sort of like the Butterfly theory of weather. A butterfly flaps its wings in Tibet and a storm begins to form off the Florida Coast. Likewise, in one life experience seemingly limited by a specific time and space, something happens. Whatever the "traumatic" event may be, an accident, a severe illness, the winning of a lottery, getting married, the birth of a child, whatever, we feel that it is a done deal. While we feel that as important as it may be in our current life, it is finished. The reality is that it is NOT finished. The vibrations from these events move across the frequencies like the waves of sound move through the air with the ringing of a very large bell or gong. Or like a ripple will move across the surface of a pond when a stone is dropped into the pool. The psychological model we have been working with, specifically the Freudian model, is extremely naïve and limited.

What we are doing here is not finding a simple trail of breadcrumb clues left along the path in the forest of our very limited current life experience. What we are doing is nothing less than co-creating a tapestry of consciousness, a true work of Art. We are creating this across the vast reaches of what we naively call time and space and we are not doing this alone, but with the direct intent and cooperation of every other conscious entity. What we are doing is growing a holographic universe and with this realization will come a subtle "click," as from the opening of a backdoor, as from the opening of a human mind, and with this, the rings of realization will began to radiate in all directions across the pond of time.

Interesting theory. But what is it that makes the 'me' separate from all the other 'me's' in time? As for the video, I don't believe it.

Though there is some good information to be had from it, the butterfly affect that the movie frightened people with, is not all that encompasing. Changes can be limited in the scope of their affect, and as i wrote, a person is generally unaware that changes have been made, as those changes tend to blend in the probability's that form your awareness of events, as well as the individual perspective.

In affect, whoever may change things{if they can} can get away with it.

Because the nature of what we believe to be real is in constant flux, it is very hard to prove it by any of the criteria that they use for proof here. A for instance would be like the religious trying to keep things the way they wish, in a world that thrives on change. We can all track and observe their increasingly wasted efforts, as well as see all the control points they have engineered into it. To try and maintain their liniar perspective of their so called right to destroy the development of other people, or people's who may want to be free of their control and influence.

Those who can see and remember the changes within the probability's that make up this world and it's individuals, see the destruction those various religious beliefs will bring, in the things they see, and the events that confirm what they are seeing.

But as we've been discussing, much of what they see in their mind, is memory's from the other probability "lives" that share the same mind. With myself, there is a difference between what i see within my mind, and what i'll see enacted by the different probability's that manifest around me.

In one of my posts, i so called predicted how a show that is popular would turn out, and how it would go for an individual on the show. Did'nt turn out that way. After the show turned out being different then what i was remembering from another set of probability's. I then saw further that that acter, who i thought would experiance what i wrote in the show prediction, will be charged with what i thought he would be accused of in the shows story line.

The essance of what we can see sometimes, reflects the event that will manifest here in this probability. Just that it can't be tracked as how it is to happen, to get to the probability's that cause the event to happen. So there is no "sure way". You can become more precise by accepting what the nature of your "existance" is.

Most of what i write reflects this. I have been putting together my own experiances here at U.M. for quite some time, along with what i've learned from it, which this conversation reflects. The doctors here have proved i'm as sane as a human here can be, yet i still see and experiance the things i write of.

Go figure.

Thats the boggle, It is your percieved awarness aspect that makes you think you are seperate, which you are not, you have one mind. Most of my own experiance's have led me on a diversionary searce for the "real" me. Until i came to the realization that i don't have to worry about it, as they are all me, one individual with the knowledge of all those experiance's within the other probability's.

There are other things that confuse it further, even when you realize and except the nature of what is called real, that you have discovered.

There is a real you, untouched by the probability's, when you discover that and accept it, it is what allows you to become aware of what i write. For the original you is nessasary to monitor all the things were talking about here.

So if there is an afterlife, i am already experiencing it right now!
could this bring another meaning to "enlightenment" ? or does that idea already involve what we are talking about?

After i wrote the other posts in this thread, i was standing at my southwestern window, mulling over what i had written. I was let know that i've barely escaped my path of destruction. The feeling of satisfaction and happiness that i could feel, was from those other probability selves. And others.

Right now as i write, i am already a different set of probability's. I am growing smarter as i write, and though my path now is still muddled, it will help in greating that big wave the poster had mentioned in the other persons theory that he posted.

The prevention of the probability lines that generate in all directions, the horror of Religion and what it does to humanity further on, even under peaceful circumstances. We are already experiancing the opened face control that they have with the current U.S. president. They laws and amendums that have eroded our personal freedoms, and gave them access to non- religious Family's children through the various laws.

All that remains for them to act further is the disarming of everyone in the country.

It can be a horrable thing to see what radiates outward in all directions, that i can, just lets me know that i have a part in it. And something will happen that radiates outward from me like that giant wave that will topple all those lines of death and horror{control} that come from the religious in all those other probability's.

What i myself have learned, is that cults like religion and others{spiritual and spiritualist's} cause, is massive war and control scenario's, scenario's being your perception of your and other probability's that exist{other you's} The current one is frightening, and a precurser for all their hate and death. They make the third reich look like children fighting in a sandbox.

Also, you must wonder why the first armagedden did'nt happen in this set of probability's back around 2001 or 2. That is because someone exists within the scenario who can change the direction of things, with his decisions after viewing the other probability's.

Just last night or so, on t.v. was a show about a lady in england who never existed, yet her foretelling does. In it is mentioned a child, the one the christians stole their idea from, and warped the meaning of. He is here, now, has been for the last forty years or so. Because everytime i can see a scenario shift, what happened before, does'nt. We can all be thankful for that.

There is no afterlife. If your awareness aspct that your percieving die's, your dead. But your memory's are'nt, remember, your individual aspect shared the mind of the original you, who can't die. They all have your memeory's, including your death, i've viewed many of my own in different circumstance's.

As i said in other posts, you just don't see them as watching a t.v. you have full range interaction as far as the experiance itself. Thats why if you don't rule yourself{emotion, pain...etc} things could happen badly for you here. A good number think their nuts and became a part of the health system in some fashion. Still others commit suicide. Right before they commit an atrocity like the V.A. shootings or not{most do that privately} Remember the voice's he was hearing and speaking to?

There are a large number of other you's from the probabiliity's that will kill. What happened to him was this. His control was weakened by the things others thought of him, the depession from being on record. Which kept getting worse as word of mouth spread about him.

There are other probability you's who's mindsets are quite different, especially those who have died, yet everything about them as an individual aspect of percieved self, is still in your mind. They are the one's mis-interpitted as angels or demons by the religious, and yet other things by others. The one's who take control when you are severely weakened by emotional trauma, like the religious parasite.

The voice's he heard were mostly those. I believe there was one that tried to persuade him not to do that, he did'nt listen. He berated it instead, but he was wayout there, and had been driven on by the rest of them to the course of action he chose.

They don't teach people to control these things for themselves anymore, and even when they did, they just made it worse through interpitations slanted to punish them for their resulting behaviour. The religious cage, and their view towards it today, make it even worse. That was the pit of insanity that he was experiancing as he did the things he did. No doubt one of the other hims took control so he could'nt stop. The coolness he showed in his acts.

Even having learned what i know {and being thought crazed because of it} it is hard to fight some of them, especially if you are depressed, thats when if your paying attention, you will notice the changes in your thought patterns and the desires that percipitate actions you would'nt normally take. In order to rule yourself, you must rule all of your aspects, it's your mind too, and your percieved body.

There is so much more to it, but i don't want to write a book.

this may sound stupid in a huge way because i know theres people who beleive dejavu is just that brain problem where it makes you feel like you did somethignone again, but i dont realy beleive that.
I think theres that.. And also a dejavu is way diff.
so my question is would dejavu explain the past and future and present?
when i have a dejavu, i know wether i feel like im in the future or past usualy i just feel like from the past i've been braught into the present
its realy wierd to me and my dejavu's arnt like many people's, but i was just wondering if deja vu would kinda explain or have anything at all to do with this?

It explains a moment when a probability was changed, at least as far as the outcome. You remembering the point it was changed.
The, hey, i remember that, when it happens. When a dejavue is shared with someone else, it means that something happened that affected your area you live in, or it's happened world wide at some point in another probability.

I have those right before i see what was changed, sometimes.

i used ot have those alot with my step mom's daughter we grew up together ,but we are nto blood related however when we were little we were very close and at about 6-13 we had many dejavu's at the same time. were not that close anymore at all. but she's the only one i ever expericned that with al the time.

Most people do have shared moments like that with one another during a shift. Bloodlines mean many things to the different aspects that are the other probability's and you. The one's fighting the war we can't see, except in it's manifestations in our perceptual world. The cults considered religious or other wise, all of them.

I had to slap all those probability me's down, when it started accelerating for me 5 or 6 years ago. They are fools. The current madness will be ended rather abrubtly for many. Because they will no longer exist, as the probability's they are, or will be. The one everyone and thing in here owes even the sembalance to life to, is here. The child, all grown now, except the boy within him{who will never grow, age or die} who is to end it.

Thats where all mine have led to, along with the other things i've described here at U.M. for the last year and ahalf. It's been enlightening to say the least. As well as frightening.

If this guy went to the future, he wouldnt have been in the past, so his older self couldnt be in the future...

Yes, there is no past, present, or future. Only the probability's of them. A flux of ever changing possability's, you literally do live day to day, creating the next, by coalesing it threw plans and actions. Which were different in other probability's, and hence have their own percieved reality, as you and everyone here does.

Since we are on the subject I thought I would share an experience of mine that is similar to this. Unfortunately I did not have my mobile with me at the time so you will just have to take my word or not.
When I was about 11 years old I was staring in the bathroom mirror contemplating the first hairs on my chin and wondering what I would look like with a mustache. The puddle on the floor reminded me of the event. As I looked up from the floor I was startled to see an older man with a full dark beard and he was laughing at me. I remember being scared and thinking he was some kind of ghost pirate, at least that’s how I described him to my older brother who checked it out and told me I was just going crazy.
Long forgotten until I was in my forties I was getting ready for a custom party and I had grown a full beard to play the part of a Hippie. While looking in the mirror I saw a young boy with his head looking down, as his head came up I realized it was myself and remembering being on the other end of that vision I started to laugh and the boy disappeared.
Like the old man Ripley said “Believe it or not”.

Irish

Remember, even in your percieved reality, you mark what you call time by the rotations of the sun and planets, as well as in conjuction with other stars. It does'nt exist except through your imagination.

Thats what i saw when i was experiancing a scenario splice put here in this probabilty, from another.

It was night and the cops stopped me in one of their regular harrassment binge's, when they asked me to get out of the car, i noticed my reflection in the door mirror was way younger, and i was shorter then i was when i got out of the car. After they were done i turned to look again, and there was the wreck i really am. I really miss that good looking young fellow.

Those are the things i experiance myself, and what has formed a large part of my understanding of the different probability's being spliced together here to make up our percieved reality. The same with our mental process's. in other probability's we did'nt have disease or sickness, Those are manufactered here, to cover up a lot of the probility changes that stick with the person as their percieved liniar enviroment changes, as the splices shuffle them around.

eventhough if its exist in his imagination it means that it already exist