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TeraLink
QUOTE(Thozzman @ May 16 2007, 08:12 AM) [snapback]1677669[/snapback]
Every paranormal photo I've ever taken with my own camera's or seen on the internet can easily be debunked.
Thing is, it doesn't matter.
If it's real, it'll be debunked and everyone will forget about it, if it's fake everyone will forget about it.
The only one who knows the truth is the OP.
We have a choice to either believe the OP to be honest, or believe the OP to be an attention seeker and a hoaxer.

Personally, just the fact that something like this could exist is worth consideration.
I've never seen a creature like this before so have no idea what it's supposed to look like.

I'm not in the position to make a call one way or the other. Who is? Just the OP.

Brilliant.

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Jjbreen
You know I find it curious how we rationalize various sundry pictures:

A. It was invisiable/cloaked or .....

So only the camera would pick it up.

B. "My camera isn't like other Razr, it's bad."

So what if they do not provide evidence of this. Just this picture. Also it would be the job of any good investigator to (IF POSSIBLE) to go w/the person and watch them take a couple of pictures and then check them out. Are the pictures really this seriously degraded?

The camera flaw - is a very common 'excuse' - 'rationalization' to bad pictures. Now some a very valid, I agree. But this is where serious investigation comes into play.

Other wise - like many other claims of being 'credible' only to find later, well - they were not exactly credible. This is far more the case then not. So again I submit, "why people expect to be taken at face value in a field that is flooded w/scams, hoaxes and lies is a puzzle to me."

Also I talked to my local UFO Investigation group about the:
QUOTE(lucidlou @ May 21 2007, 04:36 AM) [snapback]1686094[/snapback]
With regards to people asking questions,all the information is avaiable in the article on the www.ufodata.co.uk website which i posted a link to in my original post,i have just recieved an email from them saying the analysis results are inconclusive and the photo at present remains a genuine mystery,some people where asking for the original photo and here it is.

the bold - is a polite way of saying - "it's fake w/out ticking off the provider of their pictures." They have to play diplomat and avoid potential legal issues for being straight forward and honest these days.

I still wonder why she (you) have avoided some of the questions that were presented here. Like the one I asked: Go back and take pictures of the same place w/your Razr camera in Normal Zoom and Super Zoom. But then maybe you did and found that you couldn't present us w/the same results?? Just an honest question .....

Seems IF you are on the level - that would have been an easy step to clear some of the doubts up. At least IMHO - take what steps you can to remove any doubts at all.
F-16 Falcon
Here's my two cents.

Anybody can fake a figure like that. I can make a clay alien, take a picture of it, then take a picture of a pathway in the forest. I'd then shrink the ET image down to a smaller size, resembling the size in that picture, use the cloning tool to make it blend in with the background, and voila! A nice ET being captured on camera.

With photo editing techniques today, a good portion of the "ET" photos submitted are nothing more than doctored images.
snuffypuffer
It would be so much more believable if the alien was wearing some kind of funky hat. yes.gif
greggK
QUOTE(civilization @ Jun 9 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]1716430[/snapback]
It's not an alien. It's Leaf-man. What? You never heard of Leaf-man?


Leaf-man is probably Celtic for the Green Man. But, what I was thinking was the red blood cell is identical to chlorophyl except the center atom in chlorophyll is Magnesium. For the red blood cell it is iron. So, I say by my own observations, we are in for the suprise of our life.
snuffypuffer
QUOTE(greggK @ Jun 13 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]1722974[/snapback]
Leaf-man is probably Celtic for the Green Man. But, what I was thinking was the red blood cell is identical to chlorophyl except the center atom in chlorophyll is Magnesium. For the red blood cell it is iron. So, I say by my own observations, we are in for the suprise of our life.


We're all made of chlorophyl? Can I photosynthesize then? I can't wait until I don't need a cheeseburger!
greggK
QUOTE(snuffypuffer @ Jun 13 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]1722980[/snapback]
We're all made of chlorophyl? Can I photosynthesize then? I can't wait until I don't need a cheeseburger!


No sir, we are not made of chlorophyll but if you drink chlorophyll and magnesium, you will become an antenna. Chlorophyll is copper. Your hair may fall out during the winter though.
Jjbreen
QUOTE(snuffypuffer @ Jun 13 2007, 01:25 PM) [snapback]1722964[/snapback]
It would be so much more believable if the alien was wearing some kind of funky hat. yes.gif

Wow - but if their hats are anything like the crop circles that some thing aliens create - they would just steel that from Macy or some other store and 'make it theirs'. The aliens do not seem to have any creative thoughts of their own.
greggK
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Jun 13 2007, 02:59 PM) [snapback]1723009[/snapback]
Wow - but if their hats are anything like the crop circles that some thing aliens create - they would just steel that from Macy or some other store and 'make it theirs'. The aliens do not seem to have any creative thoughts of their own.



Ever seen a head like that? Looks like a big gumbie eraser. laugh.gif
Jjbreen
QUOTE(greggK @ Jun 13 2007, 02:33 PM) [snapback]1723078[/snapback]
Ever seen a head like that? Looks like a big gumbie eraser. laugh.gif

See they even took w/out permission the Gumby character - no original thought! original.gif Everything they apparently have is from human imagination and creation... w00t.gif (I guess that could suggest - we created them!!!)
rachelkleypassparrow
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I saw your photo and noticed that your camera was a VGA. I purchased some camera binoculars dual mode VGA, which records photos and videos. We had gone along our walkway near where we live. I had just got my scooter, and thought that I would be great to be able to get a photo of the bridge from which I was some distance away. I was testing the binoculars to see how good the distance I could record.

I got home and uploaded the photos off of my binoculars and I caught what I can only assume is some kind of creature. I had to do some work with the photo to make it more visible for the viewer. I have seen gone back to the bridge and to that gate and there is nothing on there that could even represent what I photographed.

I don't know much about VGA cameras, but I know that my binoculars does have infrared, I can snap a photo at night and although I can't see it because it is too dark through the lenses, the infrared when loading the photo up clearly shows me what I photographed. They are designed for birdwatching and plane-spotting. I think whatever we have photographed is within the infrared spectrum.

I have a theory that like microscopic organisms that there are creatures living within the infrared spectrum. I think if we could see them visually with our eyes and not our cameras, the world would become a terrifying place.

It doesn't bother me that there could be infrared lifeforms existing alongside us; we live alongside microorganisms, so any other lifeform is just part and parcel of our universe.

flyinghigh23
QUOTE(rachelkleypassparrow @ Jun 15 2007, 08:32 PM) [snapback]1726719[/snapback]
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I saw your photo and noticed that your camera was a VGA. I purchased some camera binoculars dual mode VGA, which records photos and videos. We had gone along our walkway near where we live. I had just got my scooter, and thought that I would be great to be able to get a photo of the bridge from which I was some distance away. I was testing the binoculars to see how good the distance I could record.

I got home and uploaded the photos off of my binoculars and I caught what I can only assume is some kind of creature. I had to do some work with the photo to make it more visible for the viewer. I have seen gone back to the bridge and to that gate and there is nothing on there that could even represent what I photographed.

I don't know much about VGA cameras, but I know that my binoculars does have infrared, I can snap a photo at night and although I can't see it because it is too dark through the lenses, the infrared when loading the photo up clearly shows me what I photographed. They are designed for birdwatching and plane-spotting. I think whatever we have photographed is within the infrared spectrum.

I have a theory that like microscopic organisms that there are creatures living within the infrared spectrum. I think if we could see them visually with our eyes and not our cameras, the world would become a terrifying place.

It doesn't bother me that there could be infrared lifeforms existing alongside us; we live alongside microorganisms, so any other lifeform is just part and parcel of our universe.



Looks like a rain drop that happens to look like a face- a face with no body
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(lucidlou @ Jun 11 2007, 02:54 AM) [snapback]1718397[/snapback]
Very intresting post soel,your comments are appreciated,as to the original photo this has been posted by myself,look through the thread and you will see it,as to the rest of you who have nothing better to do then attack me,isent it time you had your nappies changed???Sorry but i have said this already,i am not prepared to get involved with sad armchair experts who have less intelligence then garden gnomes,grow up you bunch of childesh imbosiles.

Unintelligent? You mis-spelled half the words in that post! laugh.gif Give it up, we aren't going to that website, and we know your picture's fake. It looks like a cardboard cut-out!
Jjbreen
Here is what bothers me:

People come here w/their pictures and post them saying: LOOK WHAT I CAUGHT!!

Then we look at them, open them up w/photo editors and raise questions of doubts.
Then they get on our cases for 'investigating it' and avoid the one thing that I know I asked and I think a couple of others:

Go back and take some more pictures of this area. Regular pictures - Zoom and Super Zoom. This is NOT an unreasonable request, especially in this case.

Give us more to work w/IF you want this to be taken seriously.

Notice that they do NOT do this.

If I caught something that I personally thought was 'strange' - the FIRST thing I'd do is go back to the place. NO QUESTION MARK - I WOULD. I would take pictures, many of them. I would look around for foot prints or other signs.
I WOULD NOT SIMPLY SUPPLY ONE PICTURE AS "PROOF". blink.gif

This rational simply amazes me, one picture is 'their evidence'. HUH??

Now I understand that sometimes it's not possible for this to be done. IF it was on a vacation or something like that.

But this was a picture taken to show where she lives. So it shouldn't be that hard to TAKE MORE PICTURES!

Why is this such a hard concept for some to understand???
joshannon
QUOTE(lucidlou @ May 16 2007, 07:27 PM) [snapback]1677526[/snapback]
12 months ago i had an experience which changed my life forever,while out walking my dog i took a few photos of the area i had just moved to(hampshire),when i later viewed the photos on my computer one would change my life forever,on one of the photos there appeared to be some kind of creature running through the shot,i have never sought publicity,and the only people i sent the photo to was ufodata.co.uk,due to a family tragedy i have not had the time to concentrate on getting my story out on the internet or contacting researchers,you can read my full story complete with photos by clicking on this link http://www.ufodata.co.uk/pdf/An_Alien_in_the_countryside.pdf anyone intrested in doing some analysis on the image can download the photo by clicking on this link http://www.photos.yahoo.com/louisewatkins2007 use of image for analysis purposes only please,image copyright protected 2006 louise watkins,i would love to hear from seriously minded people,contact me louisewatkins2007@yahoo.co.uk


I think that - its either an alien or more likely not a fake, but someone dressed up for whatever reason to look that way.

How likely is it that aliens are roaming around our planet. How unique is our planet in our section of the milky way? Not that unique.
Aliens have to travel at near light speed in order to come from where-ever they are to visit our planet, within a reasonable period of time.

The object in the photo was wearing a "cyclist" styled helmet. How fast was he/she moving. He/she would have to be moving pretty fast in order for the aerodynamics to come into play for that shaped helmet.

Personally if their are aliens (which is likely), they are not going to look anything like us. That creature looked to similar to fit into the alien category, although it looks unusual, sort of like a stick man.

Interesting non the less.

Cheers,

Civilization
I gave the photo a second chance, and after reviewing again I decided that it is one of the most humor-filled photos I have ever seen. I laughed out loud (seriously). Any others?
Miss Anita Cigarette.
this is the most ridiculous picture i have ever seen.

boring.
aweful.
fake.
Please Explain
QUOTE(Anita Cigarette. @ Jun 16 2007, 06:01 AM) [snapback]1727422[/snapback]
this is the most ridiculous picture i have ever seen.

boring.
aweful.
fake.

same with your ET pic.
Mostar
LOL

"You Decide"

CLASSIC !
Jjbreen
QUOTE(Mostar @ Jun 17 2007, 04:51 AM) [snapback]1729057[/snapback]
LOL

"You Decide"

CLASSIC !

Yes - if this wasn't a "New Age" think - I would have gone - oh, ok - New Agers go, "if this feels right" - "ressinate w/U" - "you feel a connection", "then it's for you. If not then it's not meant for you." "But you decide" and we do. F A K E - then well, "you were not suppose to decide that!!"

They do not take logical and common sense steps, like provide more photos of the area where the picture was taken. No, that would be TOO SIMPLE! blink.gif

Supply only ONE DAMN picture and well - "There our proof!" they "obviously wouldn't lie to us!!" rolleyes.gif
Please Explain
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Jun 17 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]1729215[/snapback]
Supply only ONE DAMN picture and well - "There our proof!" they "obviously wouldn't lie to us!!" rolleyes.gif

Oh well, she won't that, she had to retouch the tree to make it the same with the pic.
More harder for her...lol...
Ticci
QUOTE(lucidlou @ May 16 2007, 04:27 AM) [snapback]1677526[/snapback]
12 months ago i had an experience which changed my life forever,while out walking my dog i took a few photos of the area i had just moved to(hampshire),when i later viewed the photos on my computer one would change my life forever,on one of the photos there appeared to be some kind of creature running through the shot,i have never sought publicity,and the only people i sent the photo to was ufodata.co.uk,due to a family tragedy i have not had the time to concentrate on getting my story out on the internet or contacting researchers,you can read my full story complete with photos by clicking on this link http://www.ufodata.co.uk/pdf/An_Alien_in_the_countryside.pdf anyone intrested in doing some analysis on the image can download the photo by clicking on this link http://www.photos.yahoo.com/louisewatkins2007 use of image for analysis purposes only please,image copyright protected 2006 louise watkins,i would love to hear from seriously minded people,contact me louisewatkins2007@yahoo.co.uk

Your letter is well written and your post here looks like someone different wrote it.
Please Explain
I think it's not well written.
I copied and pasted it on Word.
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LthrWolfTx
Its a fake for sure...iti even looks liek its wearing lil dutchboy wooden shoes, cept theyre in a FABULOUS shade of green.
DakaSha
the first pic in this thread has got to be a social experiment rolleyes.gif
morrison1976
Its a shame that people like to do this sort of thing, then try to convince us its real. Its one of the worst fakes i have seen, so we should ignore this thread, or let the mods close it because even the person who took the photo does not come onto the thread that much.
Agent. Mulder
^ i may have to agree
LthrWolfTx
QUOTE(Agent. Mulder @ Jun 18 2007, 01:04 PM) [snapback]1730988[/snapback]
^ i may have to agree



ya know, i don't believe we are alone......however. what i take issue with, is KIDS making sh** up. That pic was such an obvious fake it wasn't even funny. HELL!! i can draw better that.

ill post a pic and you tell me what the mist is!! It has shown up in every pipc weve taken.


GIMME SOMETHIN TO CHEW ON

don't make this sh** up cause ya have nothing to do

Jjbreen
QUOTE(LthrWolfTx @ Jun 18 2007, 10:36 PM) *
ya know, i don't believe we are alone......however. what i take issue with, is KIDS making sh** up. That pic was such an obvious fake it wasn't even funny. HELL!! i can draw better that.

ill post a pic and you tell me what the mist is!! It has shown up in every pipc weve taken.
GIMME SOMETHIN TO CHEW ON

don't make this sh** up cause ya have nothing to do

Sigh... one of two very dull reasons:

A. Your camera needs cleaning.
..... These 'flaws' are actually very common and do have explinations. Usually it clears up after a good cleaning. If it's a smoker's house, that is usually the cause. Just like you see 'film' (not photography film) on the windows. (This is not an 'anti-smoking' statement. Just a simple statement of fact.) original.gif
Feanor
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jun 16 2007, 07:53 PM) *
same with your ET pic.


Ouch! That hurts!
LthrWolfTx
Ya know Jibreen, you might be right except nobody at that house smokes and nothing was cooking and it was a lil snap camera, however, that is not the only pic like that. over 9 years there are several like that (sigh).
LthrWolfTx
Did I mention we live in a haunted house?
Jjbreen
Another point on camera's - the inside of front windshields, inside houses - anyone NOT notice the 'film' - (non-smokers) that develope on these? Same thing can aslo happen to cameras over time too.

So the best thing before evidence of "paranormal" are presented - is making sure one's camera is cleaned on a routine basis. This 'dust' film does effect cameras just as much as they do Wind Shields and Windows.

No - you didn't! Hey call "Ghost Hunters" - maybe they'll come and 'check it out'! (I am serious on this one.)
lucidlou
Click to view attachmentSince going public with my story,and photo of the entity caught on camera http://www.ufodata.co.uk/pdf/An_Alien_in_the_countryside.pdf i have had a lot of contact from people,some very nasty but most very positive,people just wanting to either offer their support or share their own experiences.I was recently contacted by a gentleman who wishes to remain anonymous,he sent me a photo,and his story.He said that very recently he attended a funeral,and was asked by his family to bring his camera to take family photos.While in the cemetery at around 3pm he loaded a roll of standard kodak 35mm film into his camera,and as a rule of habit he took 2 test shots to make sure that the film was running smoothly through his camera.About a week later he had the film developed,and when sitting down with a cup of tea back at home looking through the photos he said he got the shock of his life when he looked at one of the photos(2nd test shot)which shows a strange tube of white,misty light streaking across the photo.He checked the negatives,and the object is clearly visible on the negative.About 3 days later he returned to the photo shop,and spoke to the manager,who after looking at the print,and negative concluded that the object is definetely not a processing error,and could indeed show something paranormal,he kindly transfered the original image onto a cd for him.He did not see anything at the time of taking the photo,and all other 35 exposed images were perfect,he said he has had his 35mm olympus compact camera for 6 years,and has never seen anything like it before.The person in question does not wish to get involved with skeptics or believers of the paranormal,and has given me his full permission to use,and promote the photo(copyright protected).I just thought i would share his story with you as i think it is very intresting,and especially because the photo is a 35mm print,and not a digital fault.The photo was taken several weeks ago at roughly 3pm at an undisclosed location somewhere in merseyside in the northwest of england.I think it is a fantastic photo,and one person who has looked at the image for me who does photography for a living said that the photo has not been manipulated in any way,and could show the real thing.I would be gratefull if after reading this article that forum members please do not leave sarcastic,and nasty comments,thankyou,lou.
Affliction
Looks like a bad doctor using the a small resolution to cover it up. I'm not too telecommunication savvy, but I'm pretty sure most cell phones wouldn't even have a resolution that small.
rikitiki
QUOTE(Affliction @ Jun 21 2007, 10:40 AM) *
Looks like a bad doctor using the a small resolution to cover it up. I'm not too telecommunication savvy, but I'm pretty sure most cell phones wouldn't even have a resolution that small.


Read the post. It was taken with a 35mm camera, not a cell phone.
Affliction
QUOTE(rikitiki @ Jun 21 2007, 08:51 PM) *
Read the post. It was taken with a 35mm camera, not a cell phone.

Read the .pdf, it indicates otherwise.
Harte
Appears to be a white cotton thread hanging in front of the lens.

Harte
Captain Kolak
Not sure what it is but there have been better pics
isis-999
The first picture really look's fake, I'm sorry but it's just not a real looking picture the color and image are really bad....The second picture is more real looking, But i have seen picture's of that nature before and i can't say what it might it be....
Fluffybunny
I am sorry but I really think this looks like a hoax/staged; it appears to me to be a rather 2 dimensional photo and it just doesn't look right, and without other photos of the area to compare to I can't say that I would give the photo much credibility. Perhaps it might help if there were other photos of the area with the same perspective it might help but as it is there just isn't enough to go on.

Probably not the answer you were looking for, but that is my opinion.
DakaSha
sorry this really is the worst photo of an ET ive ever seen IMO
BishopRyan
I bet my childs life that those pics aren't real.
Thozzman
QUOTE(BishopRyan @ Jun 21 2007, 10:33 AM) *
I bet my childs life that those pics aren't real.


Could be real, then what? Why does everyone believe they've seen, and can identify every life form in the universe and inter dimensionally? All we are aware of is a small percentage of the life that exists on earth!

That's exactly the reason I post none of my extensive collection of evidence for paranormal phenomena, and when a friend presents me with evidence for the paranormal I always suggest he doesn't post it on the internet. The internet is the worst possible place for the evaluation of any sort of unexplained phenomena. Any answers most give to the OP can be instantly dismissed as foolishness.

I think sending these type photos to trained analysts and avoiding the internet with such data would be a wise move. These people are here (for the most part), just to irritate and flame, or get attention.
BishopRyan
No it can't be real. Its not real its not even close.

I'm all for sharing....even questionable pictures.

Just look at the landscaping. It looks like the parts used to build the landscaping are from a model train set-up. Its not even debatable its a toy with toy tree, grass and bush landscaping. You guys can't possibly be this naive. These things can be bought at hobby shops or craft stores. I've built train tables and this stuff is pretty much it.

I have and will continue to support good and even questionable pictures or video but this is absurd.
morrison1976
I have seen maybe photo's like this, but its not evidence. These sort of photos can easily be faked, or have normal explanations. I have never been a fan of these sort of photos. There a a few ghost photos that show ghosts in human form, which are impressive and still unexplained, but these types of photos that show white lights, streaks etc, are nothing important when it comes to evidence of the spirite world.
rikitiki
QUOTE(Affliction @ Jun 21 2007, 10:55 AM) *
Read the .pdf, it indicates otherwise.


We're both right. There are 2 photos: the one in the pdf and the one
she is describing in her post taken by the man with a 35mm
camera (with white streak).
Thozzman
Then it's pointless to post ANY suspected paranormal photos. They can all be debunked.
morrison1976
QUOTE
Then it's pointless to post ANY suspected paranormal photos. They can all be debunked.


No its not pointless. But photos like this one are not exactly evidence of the paranormal. Like i said before, its so easy to fake these sort of paranormal photos. I am not saying that all these type of photos are not paranormal, but how do you know what is fake or real when they can be faked so easily. I am a huge believer in the paranormal, but im not a sucker.
F-16 Falcon
QUOTE(BishopRyan @ Jun 21 2007, 11:33 AM) *
I bet my childs life that those pics aren't real.

You bet your child's life? Why would you bet your child's life before your own...? I know this photograph probably is a hoax, and this whole topic isn't that big of a deal, but I just don't see why you'd bet your child's life before your own.
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