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user posted image rA bizarre world of scorching hot ice shrouded in a steamy atmosphere may have been found, according to new observations. Characterising the Neptune-size planet is an important milestone on the way to detecting and characterising Earth-like planets that could harbour life.Astronomers have discovered more than 200 planets orbiting other stars, called extrasolar planets or exoplanets. Almost all of these were detected by the way their gravity makes their parent stars wobble. But this technique, called the radial velocity method, reveals very little about the planet except for the size of its orbit and an estimate of its mass.Astronomers can learn a lot more by watching "transits" of planets that pass in front of their parent stars as seen from Earth. Careful analysis of the dimming this causes can provide clues to the planet's composition and structure. But the brightness dips are small and difficult to detect for all but the largest planets.Now, astronomers have observed the smallest ever transiting planet. It has turned out to be a strange world, unlike anything seen before.

The planet, which orbits a small star located 30 light years from Earth called GJ 436, was actually discovered in 2004 using the radial velocity method. At that point, astronomers deduced that it was about as massive as Neptune.But now, a team led by Michael Gillon of Geneva University in Switzerland have observed the planet transiting its host star using a telescope at the Observatoire Francois-Xavier Bagnoud (OFXB) in Saint-Luc, Switzerland.They have been able to measure the planet's width, which provides clues to its composition and structure. It turns out to be about 50,000 kilometres wide, roughly four times the width of Earth and about the size of Neptune.

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RamboIII
If it is scorching hot (depending on the definition of scorching), then it is not ice...
Waspie_Dwarf
QUOTE(RamboIII @ May 18 2007, 04:24 PM) [snapback]1681428[/snapback]
If it is scorching hot (depending on the definition of scorching), then it is not ice...


Not true. Ice is simply the solid phase of water. Ice only melts at 0oC (32oF) at one atmosphere. It's actual melting point is dependant on pressure too. If pressure decreases the the melting point drops. If the pressure increase the melting point rises. The pressure is believed to be so high on this planet that water can remain solid even at the high surface temperatures the planet experiences.

From the full article (source in the original post):

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Although the parent star is much cooler than the Sun, the planet orbits 13 times closer to the star than Mercury's orbit around the Sun. That means the surface must be a blazing hot 300° C or more, keeping water in its atmosphere in vapour form.

But the high pressures in the planet's interior would compress the water so much that it would stay solid even at hundreds of degrees Celsius – the expected temperatures inside the planet. There are a variety of exotic 'hot ice' states possible in such conditions, with names like 'Ice VII' and 'Ice X'.
:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR:
^ Wow, although the explanation makes perfect sense, it still almost surreal to the point that defies the law of nature.
ManISgod
Hot ice is a phenomenon that has been replicated before by scientists... although the pressure required is enormous.
Celumnaz
lots of water out there
Ghost Ship
Wow. What a thought. Hot ice ! It boggles the mind as to how it doesn't melt under such heat.
Waspie_Dwarf
QUOTE(:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR: @ May 18 2007, 08:12 PM) [snapback]1681731[/snapback]
^ Wow, although the explanation makes perfect sense, it still almost surreal to the point that defies the law of nature.


It isn't defying the Laws of Nature (indeed it is exactly because they obey the Laws of Nature that we can predict and understand such things) It is, however, outside normal human experience.

Weirder things than this can happen under huge pressure. Pressures get so enormous deep inside Jupiter and Saturn that it is theorised that hydrogen becomes a solid metal. This happens at about 250,000 atmospheres.

QUOTE(Celumnaz @ May 18 2007, 11:49 PM) [snapback]1682093[/snapback]
lots of water out there


Indeed. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. Oxygen is fairly common too. As water is a fairly simple molecule it is not surprising that it is common.
mouse888
that just one condition of one planet. imagining life on such planet is mind blowing.
:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR:
QUOTE(Waspie_Dwarf @ May 19 2007, 12:19 AM) [snapback]1682410[/snapback]
It isn't defying the Laws of Nature (indeed it is exactly because they obey the Laws of Nature that we can predict and understand such things) It is, however, outside normal human experience.

Weirder things than this can happen under huge pressure. Pressures get so enormous deep inside Jupiter and Saturn that it is theorised that hydrogen becomes a solid metal. This happens at about 250,000 atmospheres.
Indeed. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. Oxygen is fairly common too. As water is a fairly simple molecule it is not surprising that it is common.


Outside normal human experience is right. And the thought of a solid metal Hydrogen is also almost surreal. So, hot ice have been created in labs, I wonder if hydrogen turned to metal had ever been trialed?
when.i.am.queen.
QUOTE(:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR: @ May 26 2007, 01:47 AM) [snapback]1693700[/snapback]
Outside normal human experience is right. And the thought of a solid metal Hydrogen is also almost surreal. So, hot ice have been created in labs, I wonder if hydrogen turned to metal had ever been trialed?


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