Lesson 2: Telekinesis - Psi Wheel
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In this lesson we will focus a bit on telekinesis. Telekinesis is basically manipulating physical objects with your inner energy, or minds power. You may even call it stretching out your aura to connect to a physical item to interact with it on a spiritual plane, or in a psychic way if you prefer.

What I will describe in this lesson is well-known as the Psi-Wheel. I assume you have allready been practicing my previously posted lessons for at least several weeks, hopefully some months, on a daily basis, before attempting this. If not, you should have an allready natural ability for psychic powers to be able to to it, inborn if you like, or allready have been studying and practicing these matters through other sources.

In any case, a psi wheel is quite simple to set up and to practice your telekinetic powers with. Here I will give you the instructions.

Step 1:
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First of all, you need a square piece of paper, about the size of your hand. You fold it up on the middle first once, then in opposite direction so lines in shape of a cross is now found on the paper, with the middle of the "cross" at the middle of the paper. Then you fold it up a little, to make it as a little "hat" with the middle pointing up and the sides slightly bended down. You also need something to place it on, such as a small iron rod placed on a stable surface so it can stand straight up. See illustration below:

psi wheel
Here you an see the paper, or the "psi wheel", on the left. It's all ready and folded up in the way it should. In this way it will keep balanced when you place it on top of the iron rod so that it will easily spin around when right energies is applied.

Put the paper, the "psi wheel", on top of the iron rod (a long needled, a pencil, etc, can also be used).

Then, just to see how it functions, gently blow on the paper wheel, and you will see it spin gently and stable around on top. If there is too much friction making it hard to spin, fold it slightly more leaving the top tip more wide so it doesn't get stuck on the top of the iron rod. It needs to hang very loose.

Personally I recommend using tin foil instead of paper, as we are of an electric energetic nature, which naturally connects more easily to metal such as tin foil and thus makes the experiment easier to perform. However I did not have tin foil in my possession when making this lesson, so we'll have to do with a paper substitute.



Step 2:
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Now that you have placed the paper, or the tin foil, "Psi wheel" on top of the iron rod (or needle, or pencil, or whatever you chose) we are ready to begin. As I mentioned, I assume you have followed my other lessons, and are now more familiar with energy work - so what you need to do now first of all is an energy meditation, such as the first one I presented you with, where you let the great energy of the universe itself manifest within you, going through your body, as I explain in Article 1.

At this point however, instead of simply letting the energy flow out of your hands doing nothing, you will create an energetic magnetic filed between your hangs. Hold your hands together, and imagine the energy flowing out through them, creating an force between them of great psychic power. You may hold your hands flat together, but not touching each other, and visualize a powerful field of magnetic energy between them flowing out of your hands. Seem image below for illustration on how to hold your hands:

psi
As you see, here I am focusing on the energy flowing out through my hands. Although the energy flowing through the top of my head, down my body and into my feet, and then back up out through my hands and arms are not illustrated on this photo, they are still there. Just like in lesson one described in Article 1: Basic meditation and Energy Work.

So, in other words, feel this great powerful energy that is flowing through you now streaming out your hands as you hold them together closely as the illustration show. Imagine it is forming a powerful magnetic force between your hands. Visualize it as a blue powerful psychic force, energy coming directly through you from the divine source. Try to feel this energy between your hands. Move your hands slightly back and forth, up and down, while visualizing the intensity of this force growing stronger, and feel the magnetic force between your hands tugging, pulling and/or pushing your hands towards or apart from eachother

Make this energy grow stronger, let it flow more powerful through your body from that brilliant sphere above your head as mentioned in Article 1, and charge up in your feet before shooting out your hands to chare up the space between them as you are now holding them closely together not letting the energy escape, but you rather keep it between your hands and make it build up strong and powerful.

As you do this, visualize a powerful blue magnetic and electric force forming between your hands, a force which you can make expand and connect with other physical objects to make changes in them or manipulate them in various ways.

See the next illustration below, in form of a short video clip, on how to move your hands while building up this energy between them, as you imagine the flow of energy from within your body streaming out your hands:
CLICK HERE TO SEE IT AT YOUTUBE AS I DOTN KNOW HOW TO EMBED VIDEOS INTO THE POSTS


Imagine the magnetic electric blue force between your hands, as the energy is shooting out of them as pictured above, while moving your hands rubbing the energy and feeling the sensation of this energy between your hands as shown in this video clip:


Step 3:
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Then at this point when your hands are charged with electromagnetic energy, true psychic and spiritual forces, you may place your hands around the psi wheel which is placed on top of the rod, pencil, needle or whatever object you have chosen as mentioned above. Hold your hands around and let the energy flow out of your hands and envelope the whole apparatus, with a focus on the wheel itself. Feel your magnetic fields emitting from your hands, visualize and imagine, yes even will it to push the wheel around on top of the rod its resting. Imagine you have built up a great force of energy that is flowing out through your hands, and that is is affecting the wheel in an almost magnetic way, either pulling our pushing it around, you may even imagine one hand attracts the wheel, while the other one pushes its in opposite direction, thus making a twirling spinning motion of energy that will make the wheel move around.

Here is another illustration of how you should imagine your energy flowing out of your hands and encompassing the whole device in front of you, with great energies streaming out of the surface of your hands to push the wheel around there it rests on tip of the rod:

psi wheel
As you see, I imagine a a transparent, almost invisible force surrounding the wheel on its iron rod. This I visualize as a magnetic force that I can use to push the wheel around in circles with, back and forth, as you move your hands around in different directions, and force the energy to flow out of your hands in various ways, sometimes attracting the wheel, sometimes pushing it away from you.

Remember that you are still connected with that great brilliant white sphere of light above your head with is shooting a beam of great power and majestic force from the universal source throughout your body, all the way down from the top of your head, down your throat, into your chest, down your solar plexus and belly, and into your genitals and further down your feet where it charges up for a while before its bursting back up through your body and out your arms and out through your hands with great force. Feel this energy emitting from your hands, sense it, imagine it, visualize, and you may even see a field of energy surrounding the space between your hands if you look closely, like an transparent aura, sometimes even with colors.

And this is the energy you use to manipulate the psi wheel, which is a physical object, using your spiritual or psychic powers, to make changes in the wheel, such as movement. With practice you can do it.

Again below I will include a video demonstrating how this is done, so you can see how the wheel can spin around when you apply this energy towards it with the right focus and mental state of knowing you have this power flowing through you from the divine, the source of all existence, the power of the universe which is a part of you as well. We all came from the same source, thus we are all connected, and share the same powers. We just need to become aware of them and know how to use them, and that's what I'm trying to teach you here with these lessons and exercises.

So, here is the video, so you can see the psi wheel in action, and how it can move once you get the energy work done correctly and connect to the physical object with the psychic energy you have within:
AGAIN CLICK HERE TO SEE VIDEO AT YOUTUBE AS I DONT KNOW HOW TO EMBED VIDEO INTO POSTS

CONCLUSION:

This was our second lesson. You now know how to do basic telekinesis. There are many other ways to put it into more advanced practice, which I will talk more about at some later point. Keep practicing the lesson from Article 1, the Basic meditation and Energy Work, daily while at same time practicing this method mentioned here daily, 15-30 minutes a day, for several weeks or couple months. Then you may proceed to next lesson, regardless if you were successful or not, as some people have greater luck with some skills than other skills. But it is of great importance to practice what i teach you on a daily basis for the length of time I tell you for it to activate the energies and powers within you and make you able to develop further.

NOTES:

If you prefer, and to make it easier for yourself, you may download the audio recording of this exercise found on top of this page so you can listen to the instructions while performing the exercise. This may help you remembering it easier and getting it done correctly, as it is after all quite some things to have in mind when performing this. After a while you should be able to perform it without any audio aid however.

And remember, the more you practice the greater will be the result. Hard work is always what brings in most results, specially when it comes to magick, the spiritual and psychic abilities.

You may listen to peaceful calm meditation type of music when doing this exercise, as it may help you relax more and let your mind wander further. You may also find audio systems such as Hemi-Sync and Brainwave Generator useful tools and aids in performing this exercise in a better and deeper way.

IMPORTANT:

Do not get startled if you after some weeks or more of practicing this exercise start to experience unusual things, such as astral projection, lucid dreams, or even telepathy and telekinesis. After all you are building up your psychic powers, and these abilities are some of the goals for most people when getting into the psychic and spiritual subject, even though most want to venture much further and beyond when they really start getting into it. Its a glorious and amazing existence out there waiting to unfold for you if you just let it!

God bless you, good luck, and may the light stay with you!

-Edward Alexander

-Next lesson 3 will focus on creating energy balls, or Psi balls as they are often called, which can be used for many purposes such as for example healing and more.

Any takers?
The $200.00 Psi/Pin Wheel challenge.

Personally I dont take part of such experiments simply because I have no interst of proving anything to non-believers. I am a busy man and rather use my energy and time on teaching people how to do these things themselves, people who are willing and enthustiastic and really want to get somewhere in their lives.

For me, telekinesis is only a minor unimportant abilitiy in any case, just a step on the ladder to greater insights and experiences. It can help develope your psyhic abilities and understanding of nature and how everything is connected through an energetic field. Everything is vibrationg, everything is in constant motion.

Good luck however to anyone wanna try out such an experiment, maybe I'd do it 10 years ago for fun when I was new into this and didnt have any deeper spiritual reasons for doing what Im doing and it was more of a "Party trick".


Cheers!

You've made a poor judgement call in that - you are assuming I'm a "non-believer". That is not even close to correct. But I respect your excuse to avoid this. Seems like all the 'teachers' avoid this like the plague - I as many other have often wondered - Why? Especially since this would help others to believe this and accept it. But you said, "NO --" so be it. Thank you for the reply.

Are Those Pictures Real?

I don't need to make anyone believe.

Those who dont believe, why would I waste my time with them and try prove things? I could care less if they live their lives in vain or not.

My mission is not to create believers, but rather help and teach those who want deeper understanding of themselves. And by following my lessons and advices on a daily basis making it a rutine you may very well find that light I'm talking about.

If you are a believer allready, then you dont need such proofs, because in the end only you can prove it for yourself by actually doing it, becoming active, and practise. There is always ways to fake things, there are great illusionists in this world making lots of money on that very thing.

So my simple advice is, if you want to learn how to do it, then just do it and get started, dont sit there wondering about it and looking for external proofs, they can only come from within.


Peace, LVX-

He's passing off science as "psi" - they are edited pictures. Remove the science that is actually behind this and you remove the "Psi" - it's just that simple.... and why so many people who 'preach' this avoid the challenge. No one can afford to fail in the eyes of the other 'believers' in this --- so they, well avoid it.... But that is not addressed to this guy specifically - you will find that NO ONE that "preaches/teaches" this will take the challenge... they cannot afford too.... it will cost some $$, other attention and followers. Sigh.....

I just wish someone who preaches this would have the courage to step up and deliever instead of, well what is done.

But if it is just thermodynamics controling the wheel, doesn't that make it normal? My hands generate heat, which causes air to flow around the wheel (not to mention if im MOVING my hands).

Does this 'trick' work on heavier objects? What if I crumple the paper up and balance it on the pin, I should be able to make it spin still? Hmm, didn't work, guess my 'brain' isn't strong enough (or maybe I need hotter hands) It is easy to type that something can be done, but I am sure there a ton of 'real' believers that would benifit from some sort of demonstration. Of course, hoarding information is human nature it seems, so no pressure from me to disclose your gift (who would want to help mankind?)

The photos are illustrations of what you are supposed to visualize, you dont actually see those bright balls of light for real, unless you see with astral sight.
However, at very rare occations, light can be seen between the hands in dark enviroments. The energy itself is invisible for the phyiscal eye.

o ok thats all i wanted to know

Since he responded to my post....

See they are "Illustrations" aka "illussions", FIXED & EDITED photos - NOT THE REAL THING!
You can do this after following their teachings - (Create edited photos) -- or if it doesn't work = you didn't follow their teachings correctly. So what if they cannot produce UN-edited photos of the real thing. That's beside the point.

They "sell" the illussion and pass it off as something other then the science that is really at play. Nothing more and nothing less. Why else do they need edited photos??

The teachers of this have to "sell" a good message. Other wise they will have ZERO followers of their "truth". That means "fixing photos" and avoiding people calling their bluff. Sad....

The sad thing is all the other 'teachers' of this are quick to step at the END OF THE LINE - when it comes time to "put up". When someone calls their bluff - they have to 'exit' w/an 'excuse'. They have no choice.

Is this a 'tad hard' - yes. Why? Because well look at the evidence - Fixed and Edited Photos. What does that tell you??

A few questions:

1. What actually qualifies you to teach these things to people?
2. Where does this information come from?
3. How does developing "supernatural powers" actually help anyone to "get somewhere in their lives"?
4. How does this training actually help the world?
5. So it appears that you intend to preach some sort of spirituality with this rather than conclusively prove that PK exists (basicly treating this phenomena as a religion). What do you intend to gain through the assumption of the "guru" role?
6. Apparently you also feel that your insights are greater than others (why else become a teacher of this religion). What led you to this conclusion?

all i can say is that if you dont make a vid im not gonna believe it

He won't do the video - because he knows he would fail and thus loose his self imposed title of "Teacher". Because he cannot teach (show) - he can only talk, talk, talk....... like the rest of them. Sigh.........

Excellent Questions R!!

Why do I have this "pyschic feeling" he's not going to answer them all???

Im gonna do this part 2 times to show the importance...



Wish I could have said it better, but I can't. Untill PROOF, its "Psi the Magic Dragon" or better yet Im looking for "Proof the Magic Dragon"

**EDIT**
Fixed some tags

Read my background informtion and some general information about me here:
http://www.dark-truth.org/mindsvision/background.html

That answers most of the questions you asked.

But to take it quickly:

1. My background since birth with experiences and practising these things with great teachers, such as those from various orders my father and myself was member of, as well as other mystics and occultists of high profile we've been involved with. And in addition I have more than a decade of going deeply into the research, experimentiation, and experiencing of these matters to find out what really works and how it is done.

2. The information acomes from what I mentioned in question 1. In addition, at this level, I get a lot of information from "outside" sources such as my spiritual guides, or guardian angels if you want, whom teach me many things. I am also studying many systems of magick and the occult, still members of ordes mentioned above, mystery schools, etc.

3. It is not about developing supernatural powers such as moving a paper wheel with your mind. Those exercises are just warm up work. The point is to find your true inner spiritual being and be able to ascend to higher levels, to experience the soul, astral planes, and gain a deeper understanding of existence, life and death, the universe and cosmos, and "God" himself. It will give you great joy, adventures, and amazing insights, and understanding of laws and principles that governs us all and the world we live in, and with this knowledge you can take this and use your powers to your own advantage to get where you want in your lifea and succeed with your goals etc. The possibilities are endless.

4. The answer to that related to number 3. In addition, it can help the world by bringing more spirituality and love and understanding to the people of the world, where we can help eachother in deeper way and get in deeper touch with eachother and the nature all around us. Make more right decisions, less wrong decisions. The state of the collective consciousness reflects in the state of the world - in other words some adjustments in the mindset of human kind wouldnt be too bad.

5. I am no into preaching, I am into teaching practical exercises that you can try out to see for yourself that its real. A priest preaches, he doesnt teach. He tells you what to believe and gives no way to experience it. I give you a way to experience it and see for yourself if its real or not. It's a science, where you experiment and do your tests on your own or with a group of mindliked people. There are groups, institutions and people out there who actually do the scientifical research on these matters that you are looking for, such as the government themselves with their remove viewing experimentation (which they had great success with), the Monroe Institute, the Farsight Institute, and lots of universities and other institutions around. For me, personally, I do these experiments and tests on my own and with the people I work together with. Thats what you should do too, as I said before, the only way to know if something is true or not is to try it out for yourself and see the results. Thats all it takes mate. Good luck.

6. I refere to all the answers above for that as well as the url I gave to my background information.

Cheers.

I assume you are not good at reading. I have to re-quote myself:

The photos are illustrations of what you are supposed to visualize, you dont actually see those bright balls of light for real, unless you see with astral sight.

If that is hard for you to understand, I will put it simple: You visualize the ball in your mind, you dont see a ball of light between your hands physically.

You will feel the energy however and the energy you build up is the whole point. Not lights.

Well, lets see. You can 'supposedly' make energy balls, which only the 'special' can see. And I have a dragon, that no one can see. You don't 'do' proof. Mine is un-provable.

If the chances are that my dragon doesn't exist, what are the chances that your making a wheel move using magic?

Ockham's razor, will tear this 'magic' apart with its 5 bladed action.



**EDIT**
Upon further reflection, I withdraw my argument on psi-balls for those are harder to 'dis-prove' however PSI WHEELS are spinning because of THERMODYNAMICS not MAGIC

Here is a video documentary showing some of these skills that can be learned through similar techniques I am teaching here on these pages:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aos0hnwiHt8

Its related to the same thing, your inner energy, just different ways of using it. This guy use it to put paper on fire and to give people electrical shocks, and he use it for healing etc.

its many ways to apply this energy.

EVERY teacher I have EVER had taught me THEMSELVES! What would you think if you went to a class and the teacher said, I know Im your teacher, but this guy here will teach you while I tell you what he is doing.

Go perform your magic in front of a science teacher, try to convince them it is magic before you try to convince people who don't know better. (shame on you)

**edit**
fixed a minor error

Wow - a teacher that produces illussionary pictures to illustrate what "is" going on in the 'unseen'. So umm... they ARE FIXED photos.... thus NOT REAL. There is no problem here - I just phrased it more accurately. Faked Photos to 'show' what 'cannot be seen'. Hmm...

The $200.00 challenge still stands. I don't see the problem here. We are asking you to take this out of the talk and illussion/illustrated into being really seen!

I see you are stil the same old ignorant fool as ever with your stupid comments.

And I also sense you do not understand what visualization or illustrations means. What would be the point of taking photos of some energy that can't be seen but only felt? That is the reason I made illustration pictures to show you how you are supposed to visualize and feel the energy between your hands. The visualization you are doing in your mind, thats what visualization means, it means to picture something in your mind. And then you try feel it. And, eventually when practising it frequently you will start to feel this energy I am talking about.

But please refrain from commenting unless you have something of interest to say or some serious questions instead of just meaningless jibberish. It wouldnt surprise me if your nick "jjbreen" is short for Jibba Jabba Breen.

Dark breed, do you deny that a PSI WHEEL moves because of THERMODYNAMICS?

There is a question, that needs to be asked.

Thermodynamics may play a part.

But you can move other objects too when you get good at it, like bricks, or coins, or other things. You may even be able to use your energy to throw people away from you when attacking, which is commonly a form of self defense in Qi Gong.

Check these two videos documenting what I just mentioned:

Moving and crushing objects with mindpower:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JYGqVA9xc4...ted&search=

Affecting people and throwing them away with chi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu99GRUUN6Y...ted&search=

And another one where infrared cameras are also used to see the energy emitting from the hands:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6UTGkC73GE...ted&search=

Look for other videos about Chi and Qi gong at Youtube for more.

I have not watched the videos yet, consequently my reply might be misguided. (I will watch right after, just wanted to reply quickly for you)

First I am so glad to hear you say that thermo-dynamics 'might' play a part. This lets me know that your mind is open And respectivly I am willing to say that PSI 'might' play a part in some of these feats of wonderment.

Now for my worry about the video(s):



Humans do produce heat, and humans with the proper training can control where the heat is distributed to some degree. Rub your hands together for 2 minutes, the friction alone will heat them up. So unless the video shows me 'blue' (cold) hands suddenly getting 'red' (hot) then dropping back to 'blue' its going to be hard for me to digest. (remember I have yet to watch them, so apologies if this is what happens)

I was waaaay dissapointed with all 3!

Video 1 (WHAT WAS UNDER THE TABLE?) until this is done on a CLEAR surface, there could have been a magnet in the water dish, and someone under the table with another magnet. HIYAH! (move bucket que)

Video 2 Yeah, my 'master' touches me and I jump. Didn't see the documentor jumping to the touch. Said the guy was trembiling, sounds like nervousness to me.

Video 3 Ripley's Believe it or Not, I choose NOT, that is a TV show. They EDIT the outcomes to suit THEIR needs. The same with the documentary one (#2) but they let slip some truth with the shaking hands.

I give these video's 2 thumbs down.

And here is a video of a psi wheel under glass, no thermodynamics can play much of a role here at least in this case

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w86hDdUD03o...ted&search=

Anyway enough about the posting of videos, this thread was about how to develope your own skill, not show off videos or people doing them.

I will be glad to answer any questions related to the articles topic and how to train yourself and develope your abilities however. I will not take part in discussions of the type "is it real or fake, can you prove it" etc as that is not the intention of this thread.

Peace,LVX
-EA

So this glass enclouse was a vaccume? ie NO AIR. (again have not watched video yet, but I am sure the table it is on is not CLEAR, so there could be a heating element involved, of course if it is clear apologies in advance.)

Why is it when observations and challenges are given - you guys are quick throw out the insults and slames?

No - not ignorant at all.
Sorry but that shoe does not fit.... but I'm not surprised by the insults. Standard Operational Procedure from this camp.

Here is the thing:
A. You are looking for a 'Following'.
... How can I say that?
Why else did you start "your" teachings on this?
To get people to be impressed w/you and build yourself a 'name'.

B. Like all the teachers of this "Psi" - you avoid total accountablity.
When asked to simply prove what your teach/preach. You give excuses as to why you won't (can't is more correct.)
Proof - Take the $200.00 challenge and PLEASE - I welcome it! PROVE ME WRONG! I honestly would LOVE to be proven wrong.

YOU WOULD BE DOING YOUR STUDENTS AND THE FOLLOWERS OF THIS A BIG FAVOR!! And you get $200.00 and the title of SILENCING ME!

But I know you will not take the challenge - for very obvious reasons:
The #1 Reason being: You know you cannot do it - that you would fail.

Again please I welcome you to take the challenge and PROVE my ignorance... and get paid doing it.
Then you would have the devoted following of Kaz, Mystic and a few others - and yes --> YOU WOULD EARN MY RESPECT!

But - well I know you have excuses.... sigh..............

It amazes me that people such as darkbreed, will go around trying to make guillible people to believe in psi, yet when given the opportunity to make the skeptics believe, they give the old excuse "I don't have to waste my time making you believe."

To me, that is the mark of a coward and a fool. If you only want to prove it to those who you think are easily fooled, then you are a con man. If you don't want to prove it to everyone, which you should be doing, then go away. Because you are only trying to fool the guillible, which instantly shows me, that you have the same abount of Psi ability as Long John Silvers, disease stricken parrot.

I want to be proved wrong, so do many skeptics, but your blatent disregard only reinforces the proof that you are a con man.
So prove me wrong, or say in public its fake or you take the Psi test and prove us all wrong.

Take the $200.00 Psi test Unless your a pansy, girly, con man, then don't take it and be ready to be warmed up by a heated discussion.

Well now. I really wish I could post when I'm at work. These threads get going long before I have a chance to say something. You know it was rather quiet in here. Other than a few oddball threads quickly closed by the wonderful staff that is. Even then it was so quiet. There were even a few decent threads on top of this forum and not the "psi is real and here is why(mostly because I say so)" stuff. Now we seem to have a very vocal proponent of psi powers and one that is willing to stick around and debate. Just in time for the weekend. Lucky me. Here we go.

Hello Darkbreed. How are you this evening? I'm just fine thank you


For having no interest in proving anything to non believers you are spend a decent amount of time defending your beliefs. Of course I don't really blame you. Based on what I've read your believing in this stuff and various off shoots of it forms the basis of your reality. Who wouldn't want to defend such a thing?

You state that you want to help people. Ok thats commendable enough but a few things bother me. First off you want to help people but you tolerate absolutely no questioning of this at all? Forgive me if that is what comes across here. So can any of your "students"(using that lightly) question the science or psi behind this or is absolute blind belief required?(conveniently?) Again this is what is coming across. Blind belief seems the be a prerequisite here. The other thing that bothers me are your self appointed title of teacher, the fact you have a donation button on your site and some of the various things you have on your sites. I'm sorry if this offends but most of the time when I see self appointed titles, donations being accepted, blind faith and the paranormal all rolled up into one I can help but think of a cult (and the Roman Catholic Church...sorry....that was low....funny....but low..) or a variation of it.


You think telekinesis is only a minor unimportant ability? Minor??? Unimportant??? You have got to be kidding me. What part of a human being moving something with only the power of their mind is unimportant? It would be one of the greatest discoveries of all time to prove that anyone could do this. That is not minor my friend. That is pretty major in my book. To prove science wrong(essentially), show all people that they can move beyond their boring little lives and expand on their short list of senses and natural abilities. You consider this minor? Ok so maybe in YOUR case this is minor but in the grand scheme of things this is as major as you can get.

Ok I'm done. I'm not going to ramble like normal. I will do that later on sometime maybe. For now I reiterate what so many other have said. Take the challenge man. Take it and shut us all up and prove to the world this really exists. Please?

Ok so you wont take the challenge could you answer the one question I've asked time and time again and no one has answered? Why oh why aren't you and your super powers on the local new station, in the newspapers or plastered all over the Internet? If helping people really was your goal you would go out and prove this to the world. You could open up the eyes of so many people. People you could never reach just by practicing this in your little believer circle. Isnt that worth something? Isn't that worth doing? Wouldn't that be the right thing to do instead of only teaching blind believers?

Oh and BTW "4. The answer to that related to number 3. In addition, it can help the world by bringing more spirituality and love and understanding to the people of the world, where we can help each other in deeper way and get in deeper touch with each other and the nature all around us."

Trust me. From what I've seen of this world the last thing we need is more spirituality. We need less spirituality and blind belief. We need more questions being asked. We need explorers not believers.

Beale947 - This shouldnt be that hard to believe. It has been happening for a very long time. Science and trickery presented as magic, human super powers or the power of a certain god. It has all happened before. Scam artists, magicians, holy men, thieves, frauds etc etc. It is nothing new. (BTW the parrot comment had me rolling lol)

Kevin

AMEN KEVIN!!

You put what I wanted to say in more words than I think people that do this deserve. (I'm assuming he knows full well he is being a con man)

It's like a small child when they lie. You ask them to 'prove' thier lie and they are unable to. Only problem is this 'child' has an adult brain, so they 'think' they have ways out of the 'lie corner' they paint themselves into.

Yah-huh, Nuh-uh, Yah-huh, Nuh-uh.......

Well I am here to say, it is fake (Yah-huh + Infinity) (Just they PSI WHEELS are FAKE) I dont have enough evidince to disprove the other 'magics'. Unless you count lack of proof, as a way to disprove.

The whole psiwheel rubbish has absolutely no credibility....why, you ask?

Because I can put my hands on near the wheel and make it move, without meditation, concentration, or even looking at the wheel. I was watching TV, and the wheel still spins. Explanation? Heat from my hands. BAM.....no psi.

darkbreed how do you explain this?

I am not gonna tell any more times that posting a video of me doing anything wont prove anything. Videos can be edited, and faked, its easy to make hoaxes.

I am here to teach HOW to do these things yourself, not SHOW it practised to a crowd.

Im only interested in teaching those who want to learn how to do these things the right exercises to do so.

Those who want "proofs" have to get it themselves as I stated many times, by doing this yourself, and seeing if its real or not. Try it, practise it, then by time you might see its real. If you dont care about trying then dont bother wondering if its real or not, its not for you.

From now on I will only answer questions related to the exercises themselves and how to develope such powers, and what forces are involved etc, and other philosophical and spiritual questions related to that. I dont have time for all this other gibberish, I am a busy man and dont spend much time in here. The time I spend in here is to try educate those interested in learning these methods, not to prove anything for you so called "skeptics" who dont even dare go the path yourself to find out if its real or not.

Cherio

darkbreed my question is not gibberish, it is an experimental question. I've done this without meditation or exercises or anything you've described, yet the wheel still moves. Why is this? I've gotten my friends to do this too, the wheel moves just second after they put their hands near the wheel...how can you ignore this?

Actaully - you did >NOT< read the challenge, in that safe guards are built in. There are TWO (2) parts to the $200.00 challenge. So the "Can be edited, Faked and Hoaxes" have been built in for safe guards.

So if you ACTUALLY read the Challenge - you'll see, no - there are built in Integrity Safeguards. Which again this I find seriously funny. That you teachers - dismiss this w/the "edited, faked, hoaxes" - which makes me wonder where your personal integrity is?

>>> So now what is your excuse????

Basically it comes down to - You are a fraud. You know you can NOT prove the existance of your "Teaching" - you can "talk the talk" - but NOT walk the talk. That has been very clearly seen now by a good few members now. Your avoidance is seen for what it is: Fear of being exposed. Nothing more and nothing less. You are looking for "attention" (well you go that!) - you are looking for a following: Not until you step up and take the $200.00 challenge and well $$$ that's NOT going to happen - because of your avoidance.

You Preach but you do not teach, in that a teacher SHOWS BY EXAMPLES - NOT EXCUSES!

You avoid that..... VERY WELL.
A+ - for Avoidance.
A+ - for Excuses.
F - for walking the talk.

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My next lesson will be about psi balls. Those interested may follow it and try out the exercises and ask me any questions related to it and spiritual developement etc.

Skeptics, ignorant fools like jjbeen, non-believers and people asking for "proofs" can ignore my posts as they are not made for them. Unless they want to try out the exercises themselves and see what the results will be, then they are welcome to come with comments related to that after trying it out for a while. I reccommand daily exercises for about a month before expecting results. Allthough for many results come after just a week, for others the very first day. So this varies a lot, but in general building up your inner energy by following the exercises for a month should do well.

These are practical exercises meant to be carried out by those interested in developing themselves and gaining greater understanding of their being. Those of you interested in these lessons and who try follow them are free to ask any questions about the way they are supposed to be done, how to visualize, what you are expected to feel and sense etc, or any other related questions.

The next lesson will as I said be about Psi-balls. Then will one follow up about how to see auras, which is a very weak form of astral sight.

Actually you spend a good bit of time here and I am sure you wouldn't be busy for believers. You just can't stand being asked for proof that you CAN'T provide.

He reads but he does not see, Eric. (Is this another "Blind Leading the Blind"??)

He doesn't see he's lost all crediblity as a teacher - not just in the Skeptic's eyes - but also the believer's. I've already had two 'hardcores', PM'ing me. "You are right, our teachers cannot prove what they teach!" One even stated, "I guess you are right Jj, it is a scam."

Nice Job Darkbreed, Nice Job - you have done more good then you realize.

Either way no - you've lost all Crediblity, Integrity and Accountablity as a "Teacher". See you can run from the truth - but you cannot hide from it.

Now even the believers are asking behind your back:
"Why doesn't he prove this to Jj and the likes? Doesn't he realize that if He proves this to Jj - he's won a significant skeptic over?"
Another wrote me, "Gads, I'm not a Christian, but even Jesus as a teacher didn't back down from non-believers - there were NO BELIEVERS! He had to prove his claims to everyone and according to the bible did. I wish Darkbreed would silence the skeptical non-believer - that would mean so much to us believers. If just one person could stand up and say, as JJ has, "Here it is, here is what I'm talking about...." He has the challenge set up - so isn't anyone man enough or real enough to prove what they preach?"
"Jj, I've been reading the recent threads. I have to admit that I thought you were totally an ass-hole as a skeptic. But it seems you are right when you stated that all teachers are cowards and frauds in this. Here is the Darkdude, preaching this. The challenge of his claim is given and he gives lame ass excuses.... I have to accept that you are right, we are being sold a crap and I guess I have to accept that this whole Psionics is just nothing more than BS - pure 100% BS!"

"Darkdude" - I would encourage you to ... well your actions or lack there of - are and will speak volumes!

OK then. I have a question. What forces exactly are working to move the wheel? Electromagnetism? Chi? Life force? The Schwartz? What is it, how does the human body produce it, and how exactly does it act in such a way as to make things move?

There I think those question are well within the limitation you have set up. I await your answers.

Oh and before you lump me in with all those wretched evil science supporting skeptical non-believers let me tell you this. There was a time I tried this stuff. I am really amazed at how long it has been floating around the internet. When I was a little younger, impressionable and wanting so badly to have one of these neat super powers I tried all this stuff. I found out about psi-balls really quickly once I got internet access at home. I found all these really cool people with all these really cool abilities that I wanted to have so badly myself. I meditated. Concentrated. Experimented. All that stuff. Want to know what the problem was? I still had a good chunk of memory devoted to scientific principles I had been taught. I thought for myself. I experimented. Guess what? There is nothing there. It is science and nothing more. That is it. End of story. Mind you I still meditate to this day. I find it relaxes me and helps me think clearer. It keeps me from snapping and injuring one of my co-workers with whatever blunt objects are at hand. It is truly beneficial and something everyone should try. Use it to relax. Don't try and use it as a basis for discovering super powers.

Kevin

It's called body heat! Nothing really all that amazing really.

Teach-

First you tell us to go get videos to prove this stuff is real, then you say that videos can be edited.

I don't like catch 22's so, if you continue to spew the lie that PSI WHEELS are more than "thermodynamics" people (at least me) will continue to challenge you.

Remeber I CAN FLY LIKE SUPERMAN!

Give me proof, or please give me silence. Unfortunatly free speech covers free lies.

I got more than enoguh private messages from people thanking me for the lessons I give and helping them out.

There are many whom have said they've managed to develope their skills furthers thanks to my advices.

So I know I'm not doing things totally wrong. I get good response from those who practise this. The ones who complain are the ignorant ones, the skeptics, and non believers. So far I had no negative comments from anyone practise this, rather I get a lot of support

However, I've been advised by several to take my lessons elsewhere, as this apparantly isnt the right place due to a high number of ignorant stubborn people who can't see further than the tip of their nose, so I will post no more on these topics here.

Those interested can follow my article series at my website and other forums that is created for this purpose.

And to those who say I spend a lot of time here, you should check out how often I log in here, check the last year for example and see how many times I've been here and how long time it goes between each time.

I'm too busy to waste my time with all these negative people, so I'll go elsewhere with this matter.

I'll stay here being active now and then in other topics and the other forums here though but I wont bother trying to teach people anything about spiritual developement as i'm just being trolled and flamed anyway.

Laters, peace and LVX

YAY!!!!! One less liar (about PSI WHEELS). Keep in mind I never talked on your meditation thread, I am an avid believe in meditation. And I am willing to believe in this other 'magic'. I have proof of meditation, but no proof of the latter. So please take your 'trick' elsewhere. And all you believers, don't forget to give him a donation

And another one bites the dust. "I can't believe people just didn't believe me! They actually wanted proof that I am magical!" All teachers need to have a degree (I assume) which this degree is PROOF that they are a teacher. Saying 'Im a teacher' is just that SAYING! So take your misguided students and skew their perceptions on reality further. What the heck right, hell they may even donate money to you for the lies. Remember Ms. Cleo, I just hope you are not in the US, they dont take kindly to false advertising

I guess there isn't a "preacher" of this to be found that can PROVE and VALIDATE what he "preaches". They are preachers, NOT teachers.

Show me a real teacher that has backed downed like this..... All the good teachers are NOT afraid to stand up and validate - this is truly sad.

This proves it is EASIER to Talk the Talk - then Walk it.

Is there no one that can take - The Psi/Pin Wheel Challenge - and silence this skeptic? I guess not.

This should speak very loudly to the students - a teacher ran away.....

How true this is JJ.

Think, how many of these 'Teachers' do not believe in 'God' because of lack of proof. Then get uptight and give the same answers when we ask them for their proof.

I dont believe in God, because. . . . . Lack of Evidence.

I dont believe in Psi(Wheels) beacuse . . . . . Lack of Evidence.

God, doesn't 'do' proof...
Teach doesn't 'do' proof...

This stinks of hypocrisy to me, and that smell is best left in the pew!

**Edit**
typos....yet again

I suppose thats why these believers are always saying you have to have "FAITH", you must believe in it.
Even though it doesn't make any kind of logical sense! I don't know, to each their on i guess.

Wasting time with people that think you are lying would suck.