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henridebeer
Hear the word of the Lord Jesus Christ to the seven churches all over the earth. Grace and peace be unto all the saints. These are the judgments which must soon take place on the earth. This Word is to the point and no one can hinder the Great God Jehovah from executing judgment and righteousness on the earth. God has always judged sin and the profanity on the earth reaches to the heavens.



Joel 2:
1a) Blow the trumpet in Zion; sound an alarm on My holy mount (Zion):

Resembles the Rapture of the church on 17/07/07

3a) A fire devours before them, and behind them a flame burns; the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yes, and none has escaped (the ravages of the devouring hordes).

Represents China, Russia Iraq, Iran and other Muslim countries that will make war against any and all religion that opposes them which will primarily be Judaism and Christianity. This will start on 16 June 2007 with the outbreak of World War 3.


6. Before them the peoples are in anguish; all faces become pale.
10a). The earth quakes before them; the heavens tremble:
Resembles an earthquake on the West Coast of U.S.A.on 19 June 2007.

10b) The sun and the moon are darkened and the stars withdraw their shining:
Resembles the smoke from the earthquake and bombs that will explode.






11a). And the Lord utters His voice before His army, for His host is very great, and they are strong and powerful who execute Gods Word.
Resembles a great revival that will break out on Pentecost 27 May 2007. This will continue after the rapture of the bride of Jesus. Than those Christians that are left behind and realised what happened will start to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ all over the world.


Zechariah 14 (Amplified Bible)
1BEHOLD, A day of the Lord is coming when the spoil [taken from you] shall be divided [among the victors] in the midst of you.
Resembles the invasion of troops into the USA.

12And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the peoples that have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh shall rot away while they stand upon their feet and their eyes shall corrode away in their sockets and their tongue shall decay away in their mouth. Resembles a nuclear bomb that will hit Palestine on 07/07/07


Timeline of prophecies

27 May – Outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost
16 June – Three atom bombs in Washington DC
19 June – Earthquake on West Coast of USA (California)
21 June – Meteor hits U.S.A
23 June – Volcano erupt in San Francisco
25 June – Electro Magnetic Pulse in the USA
07 July – Israel bomb Palestine with a Nuclear bomb
07 July – New resurrected bodies of living and dead saints
17 July - Rapture of the bride of Jesus Christs
17 July - Start of the first 3 ½ years of the Great tribulation
Break

Prophecy given on 21 May 2007

Thessalonians 4:16-17 (Amplified Bible).

16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud cry of summons, with the shout of an archangel, and with the blast of the trumpet of God. And those who have departed this life in Christ will rise first.

17Then we, the living ones who remain [on the earth], shall simultaneously be caught up along with [the resurrected dead] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so always (through the eternity of the eternities) we shall be with the Lord!

The Lord just revealed the following phrase to me. In the above passage, the phrase "the living ones who remain on the earth"

This signifies the following. On 07 July 2007 all saints that passed away will come back to the earth in their resurrected bodies and us who are alive will receive our new resurrected bodies. For the next ten days all of us will witness to the lost and many will get saved of which some will die because of persecution. That is why it states that we which are alive and remain will be caught up. This will happen on 17 July 2007. The other saints will already be in heaven waiting for the bride of Jesus Christ as guests for the wedding supper. God truly will not hold anything back to save as many souls as possible. Praise His name!!


TO THOSE WHO ARE LEFT BEHIND, I EXHORT IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WITH THE FOLLOWING WORDS: JOEL 2:13: REND YOUR HEARTS AND NOT YOUR GARMENTS AND RETURN TO THE LORD, YOUR GOD, FOR HE IS GRACIOUS AND MERCIFUL, SLOW TO ANGER, AND ABOUNDING IN LOVING-KINDNESS; AND HE REVOKES HIS SENTENCE OF EVIL (WHEN HIS CONDITIONS ARE MET).

The Skeptic Eric Raven
Nice bible lesson. What is this? Sunday school.
Celumnaz
QUOTE(henridebeer @ May 21 2007, 03:33 PM) [snapback]1686868[/snapback]
This signifies the following. On 07 July 2007 all saints that passed away will come back to the earth in their resurrected bodies and us who are alive will receive our new resurrected bodies.

07-07-07 will be a great day!!! I turn 32 on that day!!!
32 or 33 I hear is a good age to start things.
Arthur Vandolay
I didnt know that the rapture was even mentioned in the bible. Could I have some verses that mention this 3rd coming of Jesus? Far as I knew there was to be only 2

1 - Well we all know this one (Happy Easter)
2 - Right before tribulation (to pick up his rapture buddies)
3 - After Tribulation

Far as I could find in the bible, it only mentions the 2nd coming. Not a 3rd (or is he just stopping back by to pick up more bible buddies?)

**EDIT**
Removed a quote I didn't want to quote

**EDIT 2**
And what happened to not knowing the day nor hour in which 'JC' is going to return? I guess the bible was lying about that part sad.gif

**EDIT 3**
And if 'god' is going to punish me because I didn't know the 'right way' then he can @$% off. Thats like getting an 'F' on a test, when all the test was, was a blank paper. Now if 'god' had givin me something other than a book written by HUMANS, then maybe he would have a right to treat me like this. As for me if god is real, then I will gladly burn for all time, just to make him have some hurt (after all he does love us HA!) Gotta love passive agressive grin2.gif
Chemically_Romanced
Well...if I get left behind, at least I can read the new Harry Potter book yes.gif
Arthur Vandolay
QUOTE(Chemically_Romanced @ May 21 2007, 11:57 PM) [snapback]1687622[/snapback]
Well...if I get left behind, at least I can read the new Harry Potter book yes.gif

Im just wondering if this fellow will dissapear after the rapture or not. Considering this is an easy prediction to prove wrong. Just wait a few weeks (like every end times propechy, remember it was gonna end in 1999, no wait 2000, no wait 2001. . .
Affliction
I have a feeling someone's going to look silly come June 17th.
Arthur Vandolay
QUOTE(Affliction @ May 22 2007, 11:13 AM) [snapback]1688201[/snapback]
I have a feeling someone's going to look silly come June 17th.


Aye, another site simmilar to this one had the end times happining May 17th.

Hows this for a rapture thought (NOTE I DO NOT believe in the rapture, it was a cult started in the 1800's) I do not remember the name of the fellow who started it, just google Rapture Cult, and I am sure it will come up.

Since we are not to know the day or the hour of the 'JC's' return (another note, I dont believe in religon either) Whats not to say that when the 'One World Government' is created that they do not rewrite the current calendar. Which would make days that we do not know exist (at least in this point in time). So maybe 'JC' will return on February 32? And if we re-work the calendar, why stop there. Lets work on the clocks too. So my prediction...

Jesus will return on Jinijuary 45th, at 46:67am.
Fluffybunny
I have to say that I have never seen such creative interpretation of biblical text in my life; really. Ever. How you go from the passage to what you think it means is just too far of a stretch to be taken seriously. Some people make predictions; my prediction is that the predictions will never pass, and I have a 100% accuracy rate. This one is no different.

We somehow draw folks like this here every few months making incredible claims and then dissapearing... If I recall correctly we had one guy that kept making predictions of the same caliber and got people all worked up each time and we finally talked him into never coming back if his guesses didn't happen. He came back anyway, but he stopped making predictions.

On the bright side of the rapture; I am going to find myself a nice new car that has been abandoned. maybe two, I need a pickup truck as well and there are plenty of god loving pickup truck drivers if the bumper stickers are any indication. With the tribulation on its way I had better get a 4x4, although I am not sure why; it just seems like a good precaution. I would hate to get stuck in a mud puddle whilst being chased by demons and such because I doubt AAA would get there in time to help out.

What exactly is the "break" after July 17th? is that like a tribulation break or did you post this via Western Union Message circa 1942?

Anywho, thanks for the update, I will make sure and add the dates to my outlook calendar; I would hate to double book the rapture...that would be bad.

Meanwhile I am going to move this to a better sub forum.
Pandora2173
QUOTE(henridebeer @ May 21 2007, 04:33 PM) [snapback]1686868[/snapback]
Hear the word of the Lord Jesus Christ to the seven churches all over the earth. Grace and peace be unto all the saints. These are the judgments which must soon take place on the earth. This Word is to the point and no one can hinder the Great God Jehovah from executing judgment and righteousness on the earth. God has always judged sin and the profanity on the earth reaches to the heavens.
Joel 2:
1a) Blow the trumpet in Zion; sound an alarm on My holy mount (Zion):

Resembles the Rapture of the church on 17/07/07

3a) A fire devours before them, and behind them a flame burns; the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yes, and none has escaped (the ravages of the devouring hordes).

Represents China, Russia Iraq, Iran and other Muslim countries that will make war against any and all religion that opposes them which will primarily be Judaism and Christianity. This will start on 16 June 2007 with the outbreak of World War 3.
6. Before them the peoples are in anguish; all faces become pale.
10a). The earth quakes before them; the heavens tremble:
Resembles an earthquake on the West Coast of U.S.A.on 19 June 2007.

10b) The sun and the moon are darkened and the stars withdraw their shining:
Resembles the smoke from the earthquake and bombs that will explode.
11a). And the Lord utters His voice before His army, for His host is very great, and they are strong and powerful who execute Gods Word.
Resembles a great revival that will break out on Pentecost 27 May 2007. This will continue after the rapture of the bride of Jesus. Than those Christians that are left behind and realised what happened will start to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ all over the world.
Zechariah 14 (Amplified Bible)
1BEHOLD, A day of the Lord is coming when the spoil [taken from you] shall be divided [among the victors] in the midst of you.
Resembles the invasion of troops into the USA.

12And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the peoples that have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh shall rot away while they stand upon their feet and their eyes shall corrode away in their sockets and their tongue shall decay away in their mouth. Resembles a nuclear bomb that will hit Palestine on 07/07/07
Timeline of prophecies

27 May – Outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost
16 June – Three atom bombs in Washington DC
19 June – Earthquake on West Coast of USA (California)
21 June – Meteor hits U.S.A
23 June – Volcano erupt in San Francisco
25 June – Electro Magnetic Pulse in the USA
07 July – Israel bomb Palestine with a Nuclear bomb
07 July – New resurrected bodies of living and dead saints
17 July - Rapture of the bride of Jesus Christs
17 July - Start of the first 3 ½ years of the Great tribulation
Break

Prophecy given on 21 May 2007

Thessalonians 4:16-17 (Amplified Bible).

16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud cry of summons, with the shout of an archangel, and with the blast of the trumpet of God. And those who have departed this life in Christ will rise first.

17Then we, the living ones who remain [on the earth], shall simultaneously be caught up along with [the resurrected dead] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so always (through the eternity of the eternities) we shall be with the Lord!

The Lord just revealed the following phrase to me. In the above passage, the phrase "the living ones who remain on the earth"

This signifies the following. On 07 July 2007 all saints that passed away will come back to the earth in their resurrected bodies and us who are alive will receive our new resurrected bodies. For the next ten days all of us will witness to the lost and many will get saved of which some will die because of persecution. That is why it states that we which are alive and remain will be caught up. This will happen on 17 July 2007. The other saints will already be in heaven waiting for the bride of Jesus Christ as guests for the wedding supper. God truly will not hold anything back to save as many souls as possible. Praise His name!!
TO THOSE WHO ARE LEFT BEHIND, I EXHORT IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WITH THE FOLLOWING WORDS: JOEL 2:13: REND YOUR HEARTS AND NOT YOUR GARMENTS AND RETURN TO THE LORD, YOUR GOD, FOR HE IS GRACIOUS AND MERCIFUL, SLOW TO ANGER, AND ABOUNDING IN LOVING-KINDNESS; AND HE REVOKES HIS SENTENCE OF EVIL (WHEN HIS CONDITIONS ARE MET).


(Matthew 24:36) "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

(Matthew 24:42) "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.

(Thessalonians 5:1-2) 1. - "Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2. - for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night."
IamsSon
QUOTE(henridebeer @ May 21 2007, 03:33 PM) [snapback]1686868[/snapback]
27 May – Outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost
16 June – Three atom bombs in Washington DC
19 June – Earthquake on West Coast of USA (California)
21 June – Meteor hits U.S.A
23 June – Volcano erupt in San Francisco
25 June – Electro Magnetic Pulse in the USA
07 July – Israel bomb Palestine with a Nuclear bomb
07 July – New resurrected bodies of living and dead saints
17 July - Rapture of the bride of Jesus Christs
17 July - Start of the first 3 ½ years of the Great tribulation
Break

Prophecy given on 21 May 2007

Thessalonians 4:16-17 (Amplified Bible).

16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud cry of summons, with the shout of an archangel, and with the blast of the trumpet of God. And those who have departed this life in Christ will rise first.

17Then we, the living ones who remain [on the earth], shall simultaneously be caught up along with [the resurrected dead] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so always (through the eternity of the eternities) we shall be with the Lord!

The Lord just revealed the following phrase to me. In the above passage, the phrase "the living ones who remain on the earth"

This signifies the following. On 07 July 2007 all saints that passed away will come back to the earth in their resurrected bodies and us who are alive will receive our new resurrected bodies. For the next ten days all of us will witness to the lost and many will get saved of which some will die because of persecution. That is why it states that we which are alive and remain will be caught up. This will happen on 17 July 2007. The other saints will already be in heaven waiting for the bride of Jesus Christ as guests for the wedding supper. God truly will not hold anything back to save as many souls as possible. Praise His name!!
TO THOSE WHO ARE LEFT BEHIND, I EXHORT IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WITH THE FOLLOWING WORDS: JOEL 2:13: REND YOUR HEARTS AND NOT YOUR GARMENTS AND RETURN TO THE LORD, YOUR GOD, FOR HE IS GRACIOUS AND MERCIFUL, SLOW TO ANGER, AND ABOUNDING IN LOVING-KINDNESS; AND HE REVOKES HIS SENTENCE OF EVIL (WHEN HIS CONDITIONS ARE MET).

henridebeer, you do realize that according to the Bible you are quoting (and which I believe is God's message to Man) you are being fooled since the Bible, in several places says no one knows when these things will happen:

QUOTE
36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[a] but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

42"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
(Matt 24:36-44)

QUOTE
32"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33Be on guard! Be alert[a]! You do not know when that time will come. 34It's like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with his assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch.

35"Therefore keep watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back—whether in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn. 36If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. 37What I say to you, I say to everyone: 'Watch!' "
(Mark 13:32-36)

QUOTE
26"Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

28"It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. 29But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.

30"It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed.

34I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. 35Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left." (Some manuscripts do not include verse 36). 36 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.
(Luke 17:26-30, 34-36)

NO ONE KNOWS
MissMelsWell
QUOTE(Celumnaz @ May 21 2007, 02:00 PM) [snapback]1686906[/snapback]
07-07-07 will be a great day!!! I turn 32 on that day!!!
32 or 33 I hear is a good age to start things.


My new neice is scheduled to be born on 07-07-07... I keep urging my sister to let me name her "Boeing" after the Boeing 777 airplane. rofl.gif
sbradj
QUOTE(Pandora2173 @ May 22 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]1688272[/snapback]
(Matthew 24:36) "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

(Matthew 24:42) "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.

(Thessalonians 5:1-2) 1. - "Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2. - for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night."

thumbsup.gif exactly thumbsup.gif could not said it better!


But I do have to ask...How did you come up with this henridebeer?
IamsSon
QUOTE(MissMelsWell @ May 22 2007, 12:16 PM) [snapback]1688302[/snapback]
My new neice is scheduled to be born on 07-07-07... I keep urging my sister to let me name her "Boeing" after the Boeing 777 airplane. rofl.gif

Yeah, this kid will LOVE being out in the school playground! laugh.gif

I'll be sure to tell her it's your fault she gets picked on every day! w00t.gif
Arthur Vandolay
Im still wondering where in the bible it says that 'JC' comes back three times. If there is a 'rapture' then he would have to come 3 times. (well 2 more, in addition to the one we already have) Anything I remember from my bible days, is that there is only a SECOND COMING.

So while I definatly do not think the rapture is happening this month, with this other info floating around in my brain. I find it hard to believe in a Rapture at all. Considering there a a few passages about enduring to the end. And again, and I can't stress this enough the books in the Bible were written by HUMANS. So even if it were the word of a god, it is a HUMAN intrepritation of that word. And now we are trying to give an intrepretation of an intrepretation, needless to say that doesn't usually work out in the end...

(is thinking about an elementary school exersize in which a phrase was whispered around the class, when it would return to the first person who wispered the phrase, it was not what they had whispered in the begining.)

And that was just a few seconds, imagine a few hundered years (or more).

(remember, I am not religous)
Celumnaz
QUOTE(MissMelsWell @ May 22 2007, 12:16 PM) [snapback]1688302[/snapback]
My new neice is scheduled to be born on 07-07-07... I keep urging my sister to let me name her "Boeing" after the Boeing 777 airplane. rofl.gif

Sweeet! That day just keeps getting better and better! thumbsup.gif original.gif
Congrats on the new neice! original.gif
Pandora2173
(MICHELLE 06:21:73) Verily I say unto thee that on the 21st day of June, in the year of our Lord 2007, Pandora will celebrate her 34th birthday. Whoa unto those who participate in that celebration, for their heads will pound mercilessly on the day following.
darkmoonlady
I have to say that I am in agreement with IAM... it cleary states no one will know. Thats why I find it funny anyway that people go about saying ITS THE END ITS THE END and then it doesn't happen. I had a couple of good friends who sort of fell into fundamentalism in the mid nineties. He didn't really seem thrilled to be marrying his pregnant girlfrined but he had also read some book about the rapture coming about a month after his wedding date. To this day I think this guy is wondering why it didn't happen and why he is still married to this woman. Poor guy he was COUNTING on that rapture. LOL I'll be sure to wear my " I went through the rapture and all I got was this lousy tee shirt" shirt and matching hat that day, sipping tea and watching for christians getting sucked up skyward...(don't think it will happen but gee it will be someting to do..lol).
Pandora2173
QUOTE(darkmoonlady @ May 22 2007, 02:10 PM) [snapback]1688390[/snapback]
LOL I'll be sure to wear my " I went through the rapture and all I got was this lousy tee shirt" shirt and matching hat that day,


Oh oh! I would like to be the first to place my order for a matching set!! I'll have two tank tops. One in black and one in pink.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(henridebeer @ May 21 2007, 09:33 PM) [snapback]1686868[/snapback]
Hear the word of the Lord Jesus Christ to the seven churches all over the earth. Grace and peace be unto all the saints. These are the judgments which must soon take place on the earth. This Word is to the point and no one can hinder the Great God Jehovah from executing judgment and righteousness on the earth. God has always judged sin and the profanity on the earth reaches to the heavens.
Joel 2:
1a) Blow the trumpet in Zion; sound an alarm on My holy mount (Zion):

Resembles the Rapture of the church on 17/07/07

3a) A fire devours before them, and behind them a flame burns; the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yes, and none has escaped (the ravages of the devouring hordes).

Represents China, Russia Iraq, Iran and other Muslim countries that will make war against any and all religion that opposes them which will primarily be Judaism and Christianity. This will start on 16 June 2007 with the outbreak of World War 3.
6. Before them the peoples are in anguish; all faces become pale.
10a). The earth quakes before them; the heavens tremble:
Resembles an earthquake on the West Coast of U.S.A.on 19 June 2007.

10b) The sun and the moon are darkened and the stars withdraw their shining:
Resembles the smoke from the earthquake and bombs that will explode.
11a). And the Lord utters His voice before His army, for His host is very great, and they are strong and powerful who execute Gods Word.
Resembles a great revival that will break out on Pentecost 27 May 2007. This will continue after the rapture of the bride of Jesus. Than those Christians that are left behind and realised what happened will start to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ all over the world.
Zechariah 14 (Amplified Bible)
1BEHOLD, A day of the Lord is coming when the spoil [taken from you] shall be divided [among the victors] in the midst of you.
Resembles the invasion of troops into the USA.

12And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the peoples that have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh shall rot away while they stand upon their feet and their eyes shall corrode away in their sockets and their tongue shall decay away in their mouth. Resembles a nuclear bomb that will hit Palestine on 07/07/07
Timeline of prophecies

27 May – Outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost
16 June – Three atom bombs in Washington DC
19 June – Earthquake on West Coast of USA (California)
21 June – Meteor hits U.S.A
23 June – Volcano erupt in San Francisco
25 June – Electro Magnetic Pulse in the USA
07 July – Israel bomb Palestine with a Nuclear bomb
07 July – New resurrected bodies of living and dead saints
17 July - Rapture of the bride of Jesus Christs
17 July - Start of the first 3 ½ years of the Great tribulation
Break

Prophecy given on 21 May 2007

Thessalonians 4:16-17 (Amplified Bible).

16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud cry of summons, with the shout of an archangel, and with the blast of the trumpet of God. And those who have departed this life in Christ will rise first.

17Then we, the living ones who remain [on the earth], shall simultaneously be caught up along with [the resurrected dead] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so always (through the eternity of the eternities) we shall be with the Lord!

The Lord just revealed the following phrase to me. In the above passage, the phrase "the living ones who remain on the earth"

This signifies the following. On 07 July 2007 all saints that passed away will come back to the earth in their resurrected bodies and us who are alive will receive our new resurrected bodies. For the next ten days all of us will witness to the lost and many will get saved of which some will die because of persecution. That is why it states that we which are alive and remain will be caught up. This will happen on 17 July 2007. The other saints will already be in heaven waiting for the bride of Jesus Christ as guests for the wedding supper. God truly will not hold anything back to save as many souls as possible. Praise His name!!
TO THOSE WHO ARE LEFT BEHIND, I EXHORT IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WITH THE FOLLOWING WORDS: JOEL 2:13: REND YOUR HEARTS AND NOT YOUR GARMENTS AND RETURN TO THE LORD, YOUR GOD, FOR HE IS GRACIOUS AND MERCIFUL, SLOW TO ANGER, AND ABOUNDING IN LOVING-KINDNESS; AND HE REVOKES HIS SENTENCE OF EVIL (WHEN HIS CONDITIONS ARE MET).


Talk about preaching !! wtf?

What in the name of Jesus posts was that meant to be? a bible lesson?? what are we meant to discus?? another rapture..cuz many predicted it last June LMAO...


greggK
Actually, the bible is one large photograph. It ends at Genesis 19:26. It tells you about the picture from all kinds of views. It tells you about the end at Revelations. Revelation is a copy of three books, Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Daniel.

The wife of Abraham turned around to see the end and turned into a pillar of salt sometime around Gen. 19:26.
Jesus Christ called us the 'salt of the earth.'
Jesus Christ has only been here 1 time.
There has only been 1 end and Jesus Christ is that.
Jesus Christ is also the beginning.
So, will this beginning have another end?
'We are all members of the body of Jesus Christ.'
'There will be some here who will not taste of death until Jesus comes back again.'
Pandora2173
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ May 22 2007, 02:31 PM) [snapback]1688424[/snapback]
Talk about preaching !! wtf?

What in the name of Jesus posts was that meant to be? a bible lesson?? what are we meant to discus?? another rapture..cuz many predicted it last June LMAO...


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joc
To borrow a word phrase from Sheri...The Rapture is a 'Religious Construct' based on pure fiction. It isn't even based on the Bible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know very intelligent Christians who believe it...but that doesn't make it so.

Let me explain why there is no Rapture:

1. Jesus died a horrible painful death on the cross.
2. Every Apostle of Jesus died a horrible and painful death.
3. Throughout history Christians have died horrible and painful deaths because of their devotion to Christ.

Now, here you are in your spiffy sports sedan, tooling down the highway listening to your latest, greatest christian rock CD, with the AC blowing your freshly done hair around, while sipping on a cool coffee drink from StarBucks...and where are you going? Why, you are going to church, where you are going to sit in cushy pew seats in the Air Conditioned air, listening to excellently performed music over a very technologically advanced speaker system, and then listening to some preacher tell you that you are going to be Raptured because God doesn't want you to have to take part in the Horrible and Painful death thingy which is about to happen.

What a load of crap. You are going to die a horrible and painful death, or you are going to totally pull a Peter and deny Christ all the way to the bank. Its either or...now which is it going to be Oh Ye Faithful?
Pandora2173
Must.......fight....urge....to.....post incredibly immature, Beavis and Butthead type response to "joc"........sooooooo hard......... no.gif
cloud0729
Maybe someone should give him a list of false attempts to describe the end. I feel within the next 2 months time will prove this person either right or wrong. Just a little scripture for the person who started this:

Deuteronomy 18:22
"When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him"
Pandora2173
QUOTE(cloud0729 @ May 22 2007, 04:05 PM) [snapback]1688625[/snapback]
Maybe someone should give him a list of false attempts to describe the end. I feel within the next 2 months time will prove this person either right or wrong. Just a little scripture for the person who started this:

Deuteronomy 18:22
"When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him"


Can I have an amen in the back! thumbsup.gif
Irish
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IamsSon
QUOTE(joc @ May 22 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]1688449[/snapback]
To borrow a word phrase from Sheri...The Rapture is a 'Religious Construct' based on pure fiction. It isn't even based on the Bible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know very intelligent Christians who believe it...but that doesn't make it so.

Let me explain why there is no Rapture:

1. Jesus died a horrible painful death on the cross.
2. Every Apostle of Jesus died a horrible and painful death.
3. Throughout history Christians have died horrible and painful deaths because of their devotion to Christ.

Now, here you are in your spiffy sports sedan, tooling down the highway listening to your latest, greatest christian rock CD, with the AC blowing your freshly done hair around, while sipping on a cool coffee drink from StarBucks...and where are you going? Why, you are going to church, where you are going to sit in cushy pew seats in the Air Conditioned air, listening to excellently performed music over a very technologically advanced speaker system, and then listening to some preacher tell you that you are going to be Raptured because God doesn't want you to have to take part in the Horrible and Painful death thingy which is about to happen.

What a load of crap. You are going to die a horrible and painful death, or you are going to totally pull a Peter and deny Christ all the way to the bank. Its either or...now which is it going to be Oh Ye Faithful?

It seems like you think Jesus is saying, "Well, I had a crappy death, so you will too," which is not a very "Christian" attitude. Not every Christian, even among Jesus's followers died a horrible painful death, joc, and not every Christian in the U.S., much less the world lives the cushy life you're describing. Free will is also not specifically mentioned in the Bible, but it is a principle which is widely discussed, and probably like free will, the reality of the event called "the Rapture" will probably not be known until the end when Christians are "raptured" before the beginning of the Tribulation or if we (or the Christians alive at that point) live through it like everyone else.
Pandora2173
QUOTE(Irish @ May 22 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]1688702[/snapback]
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Very nice. I likey. Made me giggle.
Pandora2173
It's getting on towards evening here and I'm a little punchy. Am I the only one who, upon reading the title of this topic, starts to sing Blondie's "Rapture." I have GOT to get away from the computer...... blink.gif
Robin_Shadowes
The rapture thing has been properly debunked on many sites. Does people still believe in that silly syuff in the 21th century? The truth is only your *******will be raptured. The rest of the body will be left behind.
joc
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It seems like you think Jesus is saying, "Well, I had a crappy death, so you will too," which is not a very "Christian" attitude.


Helllllooooo! That is exactly what he said! And I am not a Christian!! Please don't lump me in with the 'Christians'. I am a follower of the teachings of Jesus Christ. Christian anymore brings with it a definition that does not describe me...I may belong to the First Baptist Church, but I am sure as hell NOT a First Baptist! I am a follower of Christ...and Christ said, 'They persecute me, they will persecute you also'.

But go ahead and believe whatever you want...You are a product of Seminary. I am a product of green pastures and still waters.
IamsSon
QUOTE(joc @ May 22 2007, 04:20 PM) [snapback]1688792[/snapback]
Helllllooooo! That is exactly what he said! And I am not a Christian!! Please don't lump me in with the 'Christians'. I am a follower of the teachings of Jesus Christ. Christian anymore brings with it a definition that does not describe me...I may belong to the First Baptist Church, but I am sure as hell NOT a First Baptist! I am a follower of Christ...and Christ said, 'They persecute me, they will persecute you also'.

But go ahead and believe whatever you want...You are a product of Seminary. I am a product of green pastures and still waters.

Don't worry, I would never confuse you with a Christian joc, I was saying that was not a very "Christian" attitude from Jesus. There's a bit of a difference between being persecuted and being killed horribly. What particular way do you expect to be horribly killed (just curious)?
Arthur Vandolay
QUOTE(IamsSon @ May 22 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]1688840[/snapback]
Don't worry, I would never confuse you with a Christian joc, I was saying that was not a very "Christian" attitude from Jesus. There's a bit of a difference between being persecuted and being killed horribly. What particular way do you expect to be horribly killed (just curious)?

Is this just me, or does being killed period constitute horrible? And a 'god' that would kill people because they do not believe in him, is childish to say the least. Of course, the rapture does stink of 'X-tians' (Christians who are less than holy, the bigots etc) Think, 'god' is going to come take them, and leave all the 'gays' and 'insert derrogatory name' to burn! That will show them!

I've actually had some of these people even say, we will see who has the last laugh when your burning in hell! (Is this just me, or is that the type of behavior that causes people to be left behind in the first place?)

Either way, if heaven has even one of these types in it, NO THANKS! Hell is looking to be quite the happnin' pad. All the 'cool' people are gonna be down there, getting laughed at.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Irish @ May 22 2007, 09:44 PM) [snapback]1688702[/snapback]
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lol

Wondering if UM will have an anual Rapture thread lol
Lt_Ripley
rapture was actually not thought of untill 1830 nor did it appear in the bible or any christain writing until then.


In the middle 1820's a religious environment began to be established among a few Christians in London. England which proved to be the catalyst around which the doctrine of the Rapture emerged.



http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d760201.htm
tyler t.
This is kind of off the topic but....did any one see the episode of 'Drawn Together' about the Rapture on Comedy Central, it was pretty funny. They make fun of Kirk Cameron for some religious thing he is in lol. rofl.gif
tyler t.
joc, nice name, Yung Joc lol w00t.gif . but anyways, i think the rapture is fake but, i guess i aint gonna slam if cause if any of them prophecies are true, i will feel like a HUGE idiot.
Doug1029
QUOTE(tyler t. @ May 22 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]1688895[/snapback]
joc, nice name, Yung Joc lol w00t.gif . but anyways, i think the rapture is fake but, i guess i aint gonna slam if cause if any of them prophecies are true, i will feel like a HUGE idiot.



I think the rapture has already comeand gone and all the threads you're reading are by those of us who missed the bus. --DJS
SilverCougar
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ May 22 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]1688865[/snapback]
lol

Wondering if UM will have an anual Rapture thread lol


We do. X)
KBA
QUOTE(MissMelsWell @ May 22 2007, 05:16 PM) [snapback]1688302[/snapback]
My new neice is scheduled to be born on 07-07-07... I keep urging my sister to let me name her "Boeing" after the Boeing 777 airplane. rofl.gif


That somewhat reminds me of how people were asking to delay the birth of their babies on 06-06-2006 rofl.gif
~HaParash~
QUOTE(henridebeer @ May 21 2007, 01:33 PM) [snapback]1686868[/snapback]
Hear the word of the Lord Jesus Christ to the seven churches all over the earth. Grace and peace be unto all the saints. These are the judgments which must soon take place on the earth. This Word is to the point and no one can hinder the Great God Jehovah from executing judgment and righteousness on the earth. God has always judged sin and the profanity on the earth reaches to the heavens.
Joel 2:
1a) Blow the trumpet in Zion; sound an alarm on My holy mount (Zion):

Resembles the Rapture of the church on 17/07/07

3a) A fire devours before them, and behind them a flame burns; the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yes, and none has escaped (the ravages of the devouring hordes).

Represents China, Russia Iraq, Iran and other Muslim countries that will make war against any and all religion that opposes them which will primarily be Judaism and Christianity. This will start on 16 June 2007 with the outbreak of World War 3.
6. Before them the peoples are in anguish; all faces become pale.
10a). The earth quakes before them; the heavens tremble:
Resembles an earthquake on the West Coast of U.S.A.on 19 June 2007.

10b) The sun and the moon are darkened and the stars withdraw their shining:
Resembles the smoke from the earthquake and bombs that will explode.
11a). And the Lord utters His voice before His army, for His host is very great, and they are strong and powerful who execute Gods Word.
Resembles a great revival that will break out on Pentecost 27 May 2007. This will continue after the rapture of the bride of Jesus. Than those Christians that are left behind and realised what happened will start to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ all over the world.
Zechariah 14 (Amplified Bible)
1BEHOLD, A day of the Lord is coming when the spoil [taken from you] shall be divided [among the victors] in the midst of you.
Resembles the invasion of troops into the USA.

12And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the peoples that have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh shall rot away while they stand upon their feet and their eyes shall corrode away in their sockets and their tongue shall decay away in their mouth. Resembles a nuclear bomb that will hit Palestine on 07/07/07
Timeline of prophecies

27 May – Outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost
16 June – Three atom bombs in Washington DC
19 June – Earthquake on West Coast of USA (California)
21 June – Meteor hits U.S.A
23 June – Volcano erupt in San Francisco
25 June – Electro Magnetic Pulse in the USA
07 July – Israel bomb Palestine with a Nuclear bomb
07 July – New resurrected bodies of living and dead saints
17 July - Rapture of the bride of Jesus Christs
17 July - Start of the first 3 ½ years of the Great tribulation
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Prophecy given on 21 May 2007

Thessalonians 4:16-17 (Amplified Bible).

16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud cry of summons, with the shout of an archangel, and with the blast of the trumpet of God. And those who have departed this life in Christ will rise first.

17Then we, the living ones who remain [on the earth], shall simultaneously be caught up along with [the resurrected dead] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so always (through the eternity of the eternities) we shall be with the Lord!

The Lord just revealed the following phrase to me. In the above passage, the phrase "the living ones who remain on the earth"

This signifies the following. On 07 July 2007 all saints that passed away will come back to the earth in their resurrected bodies and us who are alive will receive our new resurrected bodies. For the next ten days all of us will witness to the lost and many will get saved of which some will die because of persecution. That is why it states that we which are alive and remain will be caught up. This will happen on 17 July 2007. The other saints will already be in heaven waiting for the bride of Jesus Christ as guests for the wedding supper. God truly will not hold anything back to save as many souls as possible. Praise His name!!
TO THOSE WHO ARE LEFT BEHIND, I EXHORT IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WITH THE FOLLOWING WORDS: JOEL 2:13: REND YOUR HEARTS AND NOT YOUR GARMENTS AND RETURN TO THE LORD, YOUR GOD, FOR HE IS GRACIOUS AND MERCIFUL, SLOW TO ANGER, AND ABOUNDING IN LOVING-KINDNESS; AND HE REVOKES HIS SENTENCE OF EVIL (WHEN HIS CONDITIONS ARE MET).

Since you seem to be so involved with the Bible, if your prophecy isn't right on June 16 this year, me and my Christian friends will gather to stone you for being a false prophet. thumbsup.gif If your other prediction doesn't come true about July, we'll dig you up, and stone you again. thumbsup.gif Do you wish to succumb yourself to this law of the Holy Bible that all false prophets be stoned? Or do you take back your flaky prediction?


DISCLAIMER: The above is not meant as a threat in any way shape or form. I am simply stating a belief form the Bible that all false prophets should be stoned. However even if the OP is wrong I will not in any way attempt to stone him/her.
Bill Zabub
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ May 23 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]1690928[/snapback]
DISCLAIMER: The above is not meant as a threat in any way shape or form. I am simply stating a belief form the Bible that all false prophets should be stoned. However even if the OP is wrong I will not in any way attempt to stone him/her.

DUUUUUDE! He was so stoned when he made that prediction. Got any chips? original.gif
~HaParash~
QUOTE(Bill Zabub @ May 24 2007, 11:45 AM) [snapback]1692258[/snapback]
DUUUUUDE! He was so stoned when he made that prediction. Got any chips? original.gif

Haha by "stoned" I mean executed in a Biblical fashion. yes.gif *begins to gather stones* June 16 is pretty close...
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ May 24 2007, 12:23 AM) [snapback]1690928[/snapback]
Since you seem to be so involved with the Bible, if your prophecy isn't right on June 16 this year, me and my Christian friends will gather to stone you for being a false prophet. thumbsup.gif If your other prediction doesn't come true about July, we'll dig you up, and stone you again. thumbsup.gif
Good gravy..talk about taking things too darn far...who cares if he is right or not??

I'll go on and say you child are a false prophet lol cuz lets face it you can't prove you are a true one..so let the sonning begin


*picks up stones and chuck em at child OF I *

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God has spoken to me..he says he will bring it forward ..the rapture till next Wed 11am..so get ready..I got an email bounce.gif
Celumnaz
well I can't throw any stones... huge sinner here

guy hasn't logged back in since he posted this one min after joining

got his point out tho I guess

7-7-7 still rocks
~HaParash~
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ May 24 2007, 12:33 PM) [snapback]1692342[/snapback]
Good gravy..talk about taking things too darn far...who cares if he is right or not??

I'll go on and say you child are a false prophet lol cuz lets face it you can't prove you are a true one..so let the sonning begin
*picks up stones and chuck em at child OF I *

w00t.gif tongue.gif

God has spoken to me..he says he will bring it forward ..the rapture till next Wed 11am..so get ready..I got an email bounce.gif

Never ever have I ever even suggested in the least bit that I am a prophet. I have never made any prediction that I claimed as prophecy. You took something I said the wrong way (even after I explained to you what I meant), and it has forever tainted your opinion of me...how sad.
joc
QUOTE(IamsSon @ May 22 2007, 09:44 PM) [snapback]1688840[/snapback]
Don't worry, I would never confuse you with a Christian joc, I was saying that was not a very "Christian" attitude from Jesus. There's a bit of a difference between being persecuted and being killed horribly. What particular way do you expect to be horribly killed (just curious)?


You would never confuse me with a 'Christian' as you define it, because I feed from the Shepherd, not from the Seminarial Trough of Indoctrinated Belief. So you were chiding Jesus for being 'unchristian'....you crack me up sometimes... laugh.gif

Since we are speaking in the context of the Rapture and the Rapture is in the context of The Beast and the context there is: Whoever refused the mark of the beast or the number of his name was put to death or imprisoned....I think the horrible death would be just that...horrible death.
IamsSon
QUOTE(joc @ May 24 2007, 08:34 PM) [snapback]1692903[/snapback]
You would never confuse me with a 'Christian' as you define it, because I feed from the Shepherd, not from the Seminarial Trough of Indoctrinated Belief. So you were chiding Jesus for being 'unchristian'....you crack me up sometimes... laugh.gif

Since we are speaking in the context of the Rapture and the Rapture is in the context of The Beast and the context there is: Whoever refused the mark of the beast or the number of his name was put to death or imprisoned....I think the horrible death would be just that...horrible death.

I was chiding your idea of Jesus as unChristian.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ May 25 2007, 01:49 AM) [snapback]1692851[/snapback]
Never ever have I ever even suggested in the least bit that I am a prophet. I have never made any prediction that I claimed as prophecy. You took something I said the wrong way (even after I explained to you what I meant), and it has forever tainted your opinion of me...how sad.

*chucks more stones at COI*

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