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Nocturnal
Short version of this question is, I'm not to familiar with religious symbols and these boards have a lot of people more knowledgeable, and not just on mainstream religions. So I was wondering if either of the two drawings on the right (above K3,3) are known religious symbols for any religion.

Here's the slightly longer version of why I'm asking that question.
Ok, if you look at the image below there are three graphs. The one on the left, as badly as I drew it in MS Paint - should be visibly a pentagram. The pentagram is well known as a symbol in various religions. However, I was bored and idly thinking, and the pentagram has an interesting mathematical property it shares with only one other graph, the one on the right (ok there are 2 graphs on the right, but mathematically speaking they are equivalent - just different ways of drawing the same thing). A quick description of the math is at the bottom. Anyway, I was wondering if this property was one of the reasons it was initially adopted as a religious symbol (Ok it's a star, but there are lots of way's of drawing stars) and if it was, if the other graph was also adopted as a religious symbol.

And yes.. this might just be me being so bored that I'm looking for patterns where there are none wink2.gif

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(The mathematical property is that they are the 2 simplest graphs you can draw where no matter where you move the nodes (dots on the picture) or bend the edges (the lines) at least one of the lines must always cross another. Without getting to much into the math, the reason these are the 'simplest' is because any other graph that shares that must have crossing line(s) must also contain one of these 2 graphs. If you want to search for it, look for Kuratowski's theorem ).
Lady Valkyrie
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Short version of this question is, I'm not to familiar with religious symbols and these boards have a lot of people more knowledgeable, and not just on mainstream religions. So I was wondering if either of the two drawings on the right (above K3,3) are known religious symbols for any religion.

Here's the slightly longer version of why I'm asking that question.
Ok, if you look at the image below there are three graphs. The one on the left, as badly as I drew it in MS Paint - should be visibly a pentagram. The pentagram is well known as a symbol in various religions. However, I was bored and idly thinking, and the pentagram has an interesting mathematical property it shares with only one other graph, the one on the right (ok there are 2 graphs on the right, but mathematically speaking they are equivalent - just different ways of drawing the same thing). A quick description of the math is at the bottom. Anyway, I was wondering if this property was one of the reasons it was initially adopted as a religious symbol (Ok it's a star, but there are lots of way's of drawing stars) and if it was, if the other graph was also adopted as a religious symbol.

And yes.. this might just be me being so bored that I'm looking for patterns where there are none wink2.gif

Click to view attachment
(The mathematical property is that they are the 2 simplest graphs you can draw where no matter where you move the nodes (dots on the picture) or bend the edges (the lines) at least one of the lines must always cross another. Without getting to much into the math, the reason these are the 'simplest' is because any other graph that shares that must have crossing line(s) must also contain one of these 2 graphs. If you want to search for it, look for Kuratowski's theorem ).



The middle one is very similar to the Unicursal hexagram.

Unicursal Hexagram Explanation The unicursal hexagram is so-called because it can be drawn unicursally- that is, in one continuous movement. This is significant when forming figures in ritual magick, where a continuous line is preferred to an interrupted movement.

The symbol was devised by the Golden Dawn, and later adapted by Aleister Crowley as a device of personal significance. It is often worn by Thelemites as a sign of religious identification and recognition.

The unicursal hexagram was created for the purpose of drawing the figure in one continuous movement, as the other magical polygons are created- the pentagram is one example. This is significant in ritual magick when invoking and banishing hexagrams must be made.

Crowley's adaptation of the unicursal hexagram placed a five petalled rose, symbolizing a pentacle (and the divine feminine), in the center; the symbol as a whole making eleven (five petals of the rose plus six points of the hexagram), the number of divine union.



Nocturnal
Interesting, thanks for the link. Actually bounced around some of the links on that page and found a celtic symbol like the farthest to the right (Wheel of Taranis - lol don't know anything about that but web searching words is much easier than images). I didn't realize one of the features of the pentagram was that it could be drawn in one continuous motion.
Darkwind
The first one is the Gold Ratio. The other two I don't know. What your looking for is Secred Geometry. I was never any good at geometry, but here are some wed sites about it.
http://www.charlesgilchrist.com/SGEO/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_geometry
http://www.luckymojo.com/sacreddefined.html

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