no matter what you believe, you should still find it interesting
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None of that serves as evidence for a creator.
Consider that there are an absolutely incredible number of planets out there; all it takes is for just one of those to have conditions which are just right. That planet is ours.
If for example the Earth was a little closer or farther from the Sun, life as we know it couldn't be sustained; and our planet would be inhospitable just like so many others.
The only thing which continues to amaze me is the fact that the properties of the four fundamental forces are just right. However there are theories which are potentially able to explain that, such as a universal natural selection.
One of the theories roughly states that: There are a vast number of universes in existence and new ones are created for every black hole that is created. The properties of all of these universes vary very slightly from that of their 'parent'. But the implication of this is, only universes with properties that are just right and balanced enough for black holes to develop in the first place, are able to spawn other universes (black holes being the origin of other universes). So it's inherent that universes with conditions which are just right, would vastly outnumber those without.
Of course that doesn't work entirely as there's no evidence that black holes do spawn other universes; but the core reasoning of the theory could very well be true.
Consider that there are an absolutely incredible number of planets out there; all it takes is for just one of those to have conditions which are just right. That planet is ours.
If for example the Earth was a little closer or farther from the Sun, life as we know it couldn't be sustained; and our planet would be inhospitable just like so many others.
The only thing which continues to amaze me is the fact that the properties of the four fundamental forces are just right. However there are theories which are potentially able to explain that, such as a universal natural selection.
One of the theories roughly states that: There are a vast number of universes in existence and new ones are created for every black hole that is created. The properties of all of these universes vary very slightly from that of their 'parent'. But the implication of this is, only universes with properties that are just right and balanced enough for black holes to develop in the first place, are able to spawn other universes (black holes being the origin of other universes). So it's inherent that universes with conditions which are just right, would vastly outnumber those without.
Of course that doesn't work entirely as there's no evidence that black holes do spawn other universes; but the core reasoning of the theory could very well be true.
Religion is in no way science, that's ridiculous.
Ah yes. the classic "The odds are in favor of God" hogwash.
But do you really know how big space is?
Each galaxy has hundreds of billions of stars, some even into the trillions. Each of those stars may have multiple planets hovering around them. So let's just get a rough estimate of 2 trillion planets per galaxy.
When NASA turned its hubble telescope into a small blank patch of space for a 3 months, they snapped a picture in just that one spot that shows light from thousands of galaxies in just the visible distance of a NASA satellite. So let's say that in the visual range of a NASA satellite at any small patch of space, there are about 5,000 galaxies.
(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0403/hudf_hst_big.jp)
This image depicts what the satellite found in a speck of the sky only about the width of a dime 75 feet away.
So, in the visual depth of a NASA satellite in any tiny patch of dark sky, there are about 10 quadrillion planets or a 1 followed by 16 zeros.
Now, I wouldn't be the best person to look to to make the final calculation of how many different versions of that same view exist in our sphere of vision, but I think we can take a highly understated guess and say 20 trillion (This is about what it would be if the view was the diameter of a dime, not a dime 75 feet away and if viewpoints were all ending at the earth's surface, not in deep space. So needless to say, 20 trillion is a gigantic understatement.)
If all these were the case, you'd have 200 septillion planets in our best telescope's visible depth of space. Or - 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets.
Although of course, you have to take into account that, given the speed of light.. this is our visible representation of the galaxies in our viewable depth of space.. at 5% of its current age. New galaxies and stars and planets have been forming for 11 trillion years since then.
And have we forgotten gliese 581 c? The recently discovered planet that has the right conditions to hold liquid water and is only 20 lightyears away, within the 100 closest stars to the sun?
No, saying that it's too impossible for life to form is ridiculous given the scale of our universe.
But do you really know how big space is?
Each galaxy has hundreds of billions of stars, some even into the trillions. Each of those stars may have multiple planets hovering around them. So let's just get a rough estimate of 2 trillion planets per galaxy.
When NASA turned its hubble telescope into a small blank patch of space for a 3 months, they snapped a picture in just that one spot that shows light from thousands of galaxies in just the visible distance of a NASA satellite. So let's say that in the visual range of a NASA satellite at any small patch of space, there are about 5,000 galaxies.
(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0403/hudf_hst_big.jp)
This image depicts what the satellite found in a speck of the sky only about the width of a dime 75 feet away.
So, in the visual depth of a NASA satellite in any tiny patch of dark sky, there are about 10 quadrillion planets or a 1 followed by 16 zeros.
Now, I wouldn't be the best person to look to to make the final calculation of how many different versions of that same view exist in our sphere of vision, but I think we can take a highly understated guess and say 20 trillion (This is about what it would be if the view was the diameter of a dime, not a dime 75 feet away and if viewpoints were all ending at the earth's surface, not in deep space. So needless to say, 20 trillion is a gigantic understatement.)
If all these were the case, you'd have 200 septillion planets in our best telescope's visible depth of space. Or - 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets.
Although of course, you have to take into account that, given the speed of light.. this is our visible representation of the galaxies in our viewable depth of space.. at 5% of its current age. New galaxies and stars and planets have been forming for 11 trillion years since then.
And have we forgotten gliese 581 c? The recently discovered planet that has the right conditions to hold liquid water and is only 20 lightyears away, within the 100 closest stars to the sun?
No, saying that it's too impossible for life to form is ridiculous given the scale of our universe.
^Good post.
And even if this was the only planet in the universe, it would not prove the existance of god.
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no matter what you believe, you should still find it interesting
http://www.godandscience.org/love/sld001.php
http://www.godandscience.org/love/sld001.php
Was this meant to show evidence of God??
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Was this meant to show evidence of God??
Amazing what they resort to, isn't it?
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Amazing what they resort to, isn't it?
Well no, it's not that, it's just you can't show proof of God, the proof is within your own personal experience, and what you believe in...not pics of space..earth or people even..thats not classed as proof, that's only what people 'believe' as proof...quer bit of a difference
I too believe in God..but only go on my personal experience
Indeed BM, words of wisdom.....
For example, I have gotten everything that I have ever asked for......excluding carmen electra......
For example, I have gotten everything that I have ever asked for......excluding carmen electra......
As a Deist, I think there is a Creator, but this tripe is nothing more than Creationist propaganda and should be scorned as a weak attempt at influencing the public with pretty pictures and dogma! While this may give evidence of a Creator, in no way does it even give supposition that that Creator is the god of Judeo-Christianity! In fact the Genesis that the slide show touted is so general and so erroneous that it tends to point to the invalitiy of Christianity! Plants created before the sun, two seperate creation stories, etc. Please if you want to present the evidence for the Creator - LEAVE THE BRONZE AGE MYTHOLOGY OUT OF IT! 
i dont get it lol...was i supposed to see something in those images? :S
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