can evolution and religion coexist? why or why not.. lots of information on why it can.. what do u thinl?

Depends on the religion. If the religion says that evolution is false, it can't coexist (as such), it needs changes. That's why fundamental christianity can't coexist with evolution, but christianity in the non-fundamental way can, to certain extent.

Wombat's right it depends on the religion. As a Pagan my religion and evolution get a long fine. Some people don't understand the difference between allegory and fact.

Both are artificial constructs, so niether one will last.

What do you mean? Evolution works fine.

If a religion happens to become harmful to its community's fitness, it will vanish. And if a religion is based on people who are too primitive to understand the concept of evolution or if it is by tradition based on principles incompatible with evolution, it will be unable to acknowledge evolution.

Otherwise, they do coexist. How could they not?

For your percieved reality, yes it does. I agree. It has been intergrated on all physical levels so no one would know otherwise.

If you live in it, it's hard to figure out.

So if christians believe god created everything then I suppose evolution has to be a part of that! So on that note,
I guess evolution and religion can coexist, well as far as christianity is concerned.

Certainly not mine.

What do you mean? Are you saing that it is already so well-established that no one can be bothered to look further? Or am I misinterpreting?

I think what is being said is that nothing exists therefore religon can't coexist with evolution, because neither exist. Hope I got that right, sounds alot like what I believe if I am.

Wether or not anything exists is a weird philosophical question with no answer.

But as far as science is concerned, we do exist, and it would have no effect on the established laws of physics even if the question was answered.

I agree with you Wombat, but I like to 'pretend' too. While science gives me the facts, have to have the other parts too. And I don't subscribe to religon, I do get issues from evolution though. Oh wait, thats the Enquirer (See, I'm bad at jokes too)

Religon can never get along with anything but iteself. I swear they play with themselves more than a.....(well that one woulda been funny, but I dont need to get in trouble )

As said before, if the religion believes in creationim than it can't co-exist with religion, unless one was watered down for the sake of the other as they quite clearly contradict each other.

Bravo to young Arthur.

It is well established in the views of those who think it real{its purpose} Those physical laws don't exist, except for being parameters that have helped shape your view on your percieved reality. So no, your not mis-interpiting.

Good second line Arthur.

Again, wether or not we exist is irrelevant. The laws still work.

Also, laws don't depend on the person who does or does not belive in them. If you don't believe in evolution, you are still contribute to it.

The percieved person that i am here, is subject to those laws, i am not, if i was, i would'nt be able to see the things i do, or write about the things i do. Six years ago, i did'nt have a clue{except fear} but as i wrote before somewhere here at U.M. The day i said aloud and with feeling, is this R.V.I. cage all there is? Was the day i started my own escape from your percieved reality. All the image's and everything else i have wrote of here at U.M.

There were other layers i still had to avoid in that awakening, most of my writing reflects those. I of course don't write all i see, as it is for the individual, not the scenario herd trapped within the percieved definitions of what life is supposed to be.{scenary}

Those things i don't write about would destroy your outlook of reality if they happened. I am not cruel, and if i have to put up with someone's ridicule to enforce their viewpoints to themselves so they don't go insane, then i will.

There are things layered around you that don't have that care, and they are waiting for the majority of you when you so called die.

I totally agree with your viewpoint on percepted reality. No arguement.

Evolution and religion can coexist. It is entirely possible that God created life and gave it the ability to evolve.

Woo! I get to wear my smarty pants Good theory Canna, but hard to relay via text. Believe me, I have tried time and again. (hence why my profile states that my views can sometimes get me into trouble )

Of course, with this mindset applied, they can neither exist or not-exist. Because in order to not exist, you have to have something that does exist.

interesting.. the research iv'e been reading says it can co-exist though.

There is, and he's a living person, with a reality thats real. This percieved reality is a by product of his mind being mirrored by those generating this place, distorted images to be sure, as they only have superficial resembalance to his own reality.

The white light people claim to see when they have near death experiance's, that is the entity within his own mind that generates these scenario's. I had a clear picture of it in my mind, when they decided my understanding was were it is now.

I was also shown how we are in one percieved person, and then in another.

Believe it or not, it's very interesting how they do it. And how the current beliefs through the age's viewed it. Most of what i know is that they do not like the artificial layers put there, by the humans who discovered partial information of the structure of their percieved reality, and use it to control the rest of us.

That is a no no. What we will be seeing before the end is how they choose to deal with it. Why armagedden was such a big fear for so long, many remember going through it in their dreams. And the control fest of cruel horror that came after it. Why it will be shut down. I now know the true nature of this place. It must be shut down. If you've read any of my stuff, especially the newest, even if you don't except it, you can still see why.

The one who is real, and being used to generate all this, is going to be free, which means waking up, and when that happens, this scenario which is all thats left, will cease to be percepted by anyone, real or not real.

The religious themselves have been changing and twisting things to fit for a long time. All the data that say's it can, is from their civilization. Of course, there are many other things here that do as well.

Look at the current goverment situation, as well as all the past one's, they are all old hands at twisting and deleting things so it fit's what they want, their "spin" so to speak.

No different from the religious, and no wonder, they control and rule the goverment.

Most good information is called fiction, the fiction they want you to believe is called real.

A big twisty with sprinklesm, as well as quite a few nuts as well

If evolution is real then it was guided by a higher power (i.e. God)

Assuming there is infact a 'god'. I could just as easily say god isn't real because of evolution. (which is why this thread is here) Sorry I can not agree with the rest of your belief structure caana, but I don't think there is any being greater than me. And I am no greater than any other being. And I have heard a mulititude of NDE's that say the 'light' turns into different things. One person was agnostic, the light switched from Jesus, to Budda, to Ganesh(sp?) etc. I have also heard of a 'gold light' that appears if you fail to head down the white one. Guess I will find that out when the lights go out for me. (yech, baaad pun )

evolution is how God creates life. its as simple as that.

How cut and dry, well that is not how everyone thinks. So while it is simple for you, the next person has a hard time chewing. I think the createes created the creator. But I am not about to say that it is simple, and right.

Your correct, but there has been a change in management. The createe's will no longer have their created creator. Their going to have to except it is themselve's. So that all those awareness aspects within some of them can finily be himself and be with his people in their reality. Which theirs is.

No one paid attention to my posts about the only fact that i do agree with the religious on, is that it is manufactered. Or in their own lingo, created.

This place repeats itself, theres enough crap on the reasons of why that is out there in the world{you just have to look past cult reasons like religion, or spiriitial stuff} What the mayan calander say's is that after a series of cycle's lasting age's. It will all end.

Not renew itself as it did during the times we called age's throughout the different probability's. There is no time or motion in your mind. This place does'nt exist, just your perception of it. And beings like your people's are not very hard to make. And think like they are real.

To those who are younger it would suggest a movie or something, it's your reality. And it is a reactive one to the end. And it will.
I described more and more occurences of them will begin happening as the probability's merge to end. All the storie's and manifestations, within the mind, and your percepted reality, will start to become as real as your percieved world around you.

Then it will end.

Evolution isn't the creation of life, and that statement means nothing to an atheist.

Evolution happens on it's own, not through the intervention of unworldy forces.

o + o = 1 ?????? how?

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